How about a "quiet car" on the CTA?

I boarded a "quiet car" last month in Philadelphia on the SEPTA line between the airport and center city. That's where cell phone calls are prohibited, and even conversations "should be short and conducted in a whisper."

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Quiet Car on a Philadelphia SEPTA commuter rail car

We know that Metra train's don't have them because they "could force us to ask a paying customer who needs to use their phone to
leave that car and go to another car where they would have to stand," a Metra spokesman said in a Tribune story.

And sure, I know these quiet cars are generally just used on commuter rail lines. But why not the CTA? What do you think?
 

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  • Metra definitely but it seems pointless on CTA especially with no conductors to enforce the rule.

  • Add to that, since CTA is getting paid for leasing its communication infrastructure in the subway to cell phone companies, it would be cutting its own throat. Which leads to back to Max's point, which is that since there aren't enough transit police to prevent wankers or people eating and peeing on the train, passengers allegedly with guns allegedly getting shot by the police, the rule against crossing between cars not being enforced as it is, without saying you have to go to another car to make a call, etc., CTA has enough about which to be worried without adding that.

  • In reply to jack:

    seems like the CTA is losing out on an opportunity for revenue by not having transit police riding the trains and fining people. i'm not sure how these fines are enforced really, meaning i'm not sure of the consequences of not paying for them, but the DC metro and NY MTA do it somehow.

  • In reply to mickcube:

    Since a huge number of incidents reported on the Tattler seem to involve the homeless, I doubt that this is a profit center.

    This seems to be a similar futility to one I noted on the late Chicago Bar-Tender, where people assaulted at a Jewel parking lot not only sued Jewel for lack of security, but the two homeless people who assaulted them. Since they were alleged to be homeless, they are undoubtedly judgment proof. What are you going to do--execute on their belongings in a shopping bag?

    Also, Chicago doesn't seem able to afford its own cops, notwithstanding that there are violations all over the city that are sure to result in fines.

  • In reply to jack:

    I like the idea but it's not possible to enforce without some sort of dog whistle and cell phone signal zapper.

    However ...
    For 2 car trains, car 1 quiet, car 2 everyone else.
    Otherwise ...
    Car 1: ADA & women only
    Car 2: Quiet
    Car 3, 3-5, 3-7: Ladies & Gents
    Car 4, 6, 8: Talkers & Barbarians & potential for a uniformed or plainclothes cop riding along to keep the peace.

  • If you ask me, what we need are cars designated "for behaving like ladies and gentlemen" and "for behaving like barbarians." Then everyone can enjoy the kind of riding experience they prefer.

  • In reply to CCWriter:

    I like CCwriter's suggestion. It could be sponsored/matched advertising for Almond Joy/Mounds: "Sometimes you feel like a nut; sometimes you don't..."

  • In reply to CCWriter:

    If CTA can't keep dangerous criminals off their trains; they certainly can't stop passengers from talking on their cell phones, and to one another. And, if someone breaks this rule, what are the consequences? Are we going to have police officers arresting people, because they were talking on a cell phone?!

    Bottom line: you cannot legislate/mandate good manners and common sense.

  • In reply to CCWriter:

    The first car suffers from having to hear the "you're going too fast" alarm from the cab quite often as it is, so its hard to call that a quiet car. Too difficult to try and enforce it elsewhere... and then you're going to have a lot more people passing between cars. Stick with ear plugs

  • I use noise isolating earbuds on the train. People could literally be shouting into their phone and I wouldn't hear it. Wouldn't really make a difference for me.

  • It's unenforceable.

    Also--those earbuds? Seemed to be used by the majority of the people who also refuse to move away from the doors.

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