Shootings at CTA bus turnaround defy belief

While I report on CTA crime trends, I don't usually mention specific crimes on the CTA.

But damn, nine people shot at a bus turnaround at 79th and Western? I mean, WTF?

And surprise, surprise -- the shooting was gang-related. What else is there to say, except the good guys have totally lost control.

Meanwhile, check out the Dennis Byrne/Eric Zorn debate about how to stop the mayhem


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  • The other thing to note (often glossed over) is that this was not just a turnaround, but a multi-bay transit center, in appearance similar to the ones near L stations (such as 95-State or Harlem-Higgins).

    So, someone decided to shoot up a place with a lot of sitting ducks.

  • I've used this turn around a couple of times. I also spent the time waiting for a bus at the McDonald's across the street.
    That makes this shooting even more insane as most McDonald's have cameras.
    The gangs are taking over the streets & it's mostly Daley's fault!
    He has no idea what the city really is like, he lives & works in a cocoon surrounded by a dozen bodyguards all the time.
    He has to go!

  • In reply to ScooterLibbby:

    Then what, Scoots? Daley is gone and the city magically repairs itself?

  • In reply to Cheryl:

    Maybe there would then be someone with a strategy other than calling for "[high pitched voice] common sense [lower timbre] gun control," while the gun control ordinance he was defending was shot down by the Supreme Court and apparently did nothing to stop gang violence. Also, J-Fed says crime is down, but statistics mean nothing when there is this perception.

    I'm certainly not going to claim that I personally know the answer, but Daley hasn't demonstrated that he does either. Also, while the high rises should have come down, Daley's answer basically was to distribute the gang problem to south of 67th Street, to probably the Will-Cook county line. There might be a bit of mixed income development, but not enough to counter that spread of gang crime.

  • In reply to jack:

    Please don't think I'm defending Daley--I have never voted for the man. I'm just saying just getting rid of Daley doesn't magically solve the problems.

  • In reply to jack:

    The gang members from Cabrini were sent north to Rogers Park, specifically to the area just northeast & adjacent to the Howard L station.
    Now it's called the Juneway Jungle because it's so dangerous! After the Bulls various title wins & on New Years Eve, I've been on my scanner listening to the cops on Zone 11 & inevitably the order is given that all cops are to leave the north of Howard area unless specifically sent there by the dispatcher or sergeant as the cops are being shot at by gang bangers with rifles!

  • In reply to ScooterLibbby:

    As far as I know, the "Juneway Jungle" has been there as long as I remember, which was the 60s.

    I had a hard time figuring out how certain pockets of the North Side (that and Uptown) had a different demographic composition than most of the rest of the North Side, and how the lake shore high rise residents could coexist with Uptown. Of course, things have sure changed since then, such as the part of Rogers Park from Howard to Devon changing from a predominately Irish and Jewish area to a Mexican one, especially around Howard. Neither side of Howard (including the Evanston side) seems very safe any more.

  • In reply to ScooterLibbby:

    I know I am late to the party here, but . . .

    First, Juneway Jungle was there in the late 1980s when I lived in Rogers Park. Cabrini was still rocking and rolling then, so the correlation is off.

    Second, it's been a few years since the Bulls won a championship. Maybe not so relevant any longer.

    Third, you have the same problem we face every election cycle. If not Richie, who? I can't remember the last person who ran against Richie who I thought might actually be able to govern. Frankly, I can't really see anyone on the horizon I am looking forward to.

  • In reply to ScooterLibbby:

    Zorn/Byrne don

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