Block 37 connector opens at mezzanine for CTA's Blue, Red Lines

The Pedway connector reopened Friday between the Randolph-Washington mezzanines on the Red Line at the Lake station and the Blue Line Washington station. It's probably been about three years since there was a below-ground connection at Washington for the Red and Blue Lines. So this is a good thing. (Hat tip to Gapers Block.)

Meanwhile, in other Block 37 CTA news, faithful Tattler reader "the other Kevin" reports that CTA finally put a sign a street level that the Washington Red Line station was closed.

"I don't know how many people I saw over the last three years walking down the stairs to see the closed sign," wrote Kevin in his Flickr caption for this photo.

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  • Hi Kevin,

    Long time reader and really enjoy your blog. I haven't seen anyone ask this: Can/will the CTA create a "transfer" via the newly opened pedway connection? I would think that they already have it halfway created because I believe that Lake on the Red Line is a free outside transfer. I guess it depends on whether the fare system actually takes note of which line you were previously on (i.e. Green, Brown, Purple, Pink, Orange would give free transfer at Lake Red Line but Blue would not).

    If not, couldn't they just set the system for free transfers at the two sets of turnstiles at the ends of the reopened pedway connector? Then i wouldn't have to go all the way to Jackson or walk at ground level from State/Lake to Clark/Lake!!

  • In reply to avondale3:

    If you mean a free transfer between the red and the blue, that already exists underneath both Washington stops for the red and the blue (its the same as at Jackson).

    Of course, with the Washington station reconstruction on indefinite hold....

  • In reply to avondale3:

    Ha, well yeah. I meant a free transfer that I can actually use!

  • In reply to avondale3:

    For what sargas indicates, one stays in the "paid area" only if the lower level tunnel is open between the Washington stations, and the presumption being that since the Washington-State station is closed, one can't stay in the paid area.

    Since the pedway under (I guess CB Richard Ellis's) proprietorship would not be in the paid area, an arragement, similar to that among the two State and Lake stations to accept your farecard without making another deduction would have to exist. I don't know if CTA has announced any such arrangement, or it would be subject to experimentation (sort of like the unannounced free transfer between Jackson-State and Library).

  • In reply to jack:

    Right this is exactly what I was asking in my initial post.

  • In reply to jack:

    Wow! I assumed they would automatically create a "logical" transfer between Red and Blue here once this opened. It would benefit the CTA with fewer passengers between Lake/Washington and Jackson on both the Red and Blue lines and remove some of the crowding in the Jackson transfer tunnel. It would benefit passengers, who have a choice to save time when transferring from O'Hare bound Blue to Howard bound Red. It would benefit the city by getting sales taxes off of good sold as people make quick purchases while transferring, as well as bring more exposure to the pedway system. It would benefit the developer by getting feet into the atrium the pedway goes through. How soon can this get done?

  • In reply to jack:

    Is that a strictly pedway-based Au Bon Pain, or do they have an upstairs presence too? That's a much better looking and smelling pedway than the old one.

  • In reply to jack:

    Actually, I'm almost certain you can get a free transfer even if you leave the paid area. The CTA has no-way of distinguishing between these two scenarios:

    1) A customer who takes a Blue Line Train to Clark/Lake, transfers to the Pink, gets off at State/Lake, and then transfers at State/Lake to the Red Line subway.

    2) A customer who takes the Blue Line to Washington, leaves the paid area, and walks across the mezzanine pedway to the Southern entrance of the Red Line State/Lake Station.

    Next time its convenient, I'll test my hypothesis. It all depends on whether the turnstiles at the Southern entrance to State/Lake process transfers the way they do at the north entrance.

  • In reply to stephenw235:

    Unless the process looks at what station you started.

  • In reply to stephenw235:

    Even if it does work, I'm more concerned about the transfer the OTHER way. I know that State/Lake is a free transfer. But now that the pedway is open, it essentially creates a potential "official" transfer between Red State/Lake and Blue Washington. In fact, if they made both sides a free transfer, it's really no different than the closed Washington transfer tunnel. You simply would go up and down instead of down and up. And, there are escalators!

  • In reply to stephenw235:

    I transferred tonight from Blue (at Washington) to Red (at Lake, via Block 37 pedway), and YES, I was charged the 25-cent transfer fee. Boo.

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