Gerrymandering Politicians Like Government Shutdowns

Gerrymandering Politicians Like Government Shutdowns

So far as I am concerned Newt Gingrich is completely wrong when he says the Founding Fathers liked government shutdowns. The way I see it Gerrymandering Politicians Like Government Shutdowns much more than what those Founding Fathers could have ever imagined doing. Personally I don't think they would have stooped to such lows to ensure that the nation be littered with partisan strangleholds.

Matter of fact, I believe that the Founding Fathers deeply respected the idea of political discourse and are probably turning in their graves by the abuses of power that have been unleashed upon the good people of America. And there has been no greater abuse than the perpetuation of Gerrymandering Congressional Districts.

And let's be very, very clear here - this Gerrymandering has been perpetrated upon the people by both political parties and they are equally guilty. People talked of the gains made by the GOP due to its Gerrymandering but what about the State of Illinois? Have those people even bothered to look at the irregular boundaries that were approved by a dictatorial Democratic Regime and upheld by a State Supreme Court that has a permanent 5-4 Democratic Majority because they are the only state in the union that "elects justices by districts, not statewide. This ensures Democratic dominance of the court, and it clearly violates federal one person/one vote mandates."

Of course there are those states which are controlled by the Republicans also. So, just like their counterparts they have made every effort and attempt to establish their own congressional strangleholds and fiefdoms. As a result, the people have been denied equal and fair representation under the law.

So Newt baby - it really isn't a matter of the Founding Fathers liking government shutdowns as much as it is today's politician who has been hellbent on not wanting to be held accountable by their constituency. And that is exactly what the American Politician has become - unaccountable and untouchable as nearly 4 out of 5 congressional districts are now considered safe.

Talk about the ultimate abuse of power!

But that is the state of the State of the Union isn't it?. So, is it any real wonder then that today's politician (or the former one's) act in the manner they do? They know there isn't jackshit anyone can do about it because the U.S. Supreme Court has sat idly by and/or blindly reaffirmed the actions of scrupulous Statehouse's, political parties and/or highly-paid lobbyists that continue to take the nation ever closer to the Great Abyss.

Unfortunately the people of this once great nation have not done much to prevent what their political leaders have done (and continue to do) to them. Instead of looking at the bigger picture people have chosen to either swallow the rhetoric hook, line and sinker or completely disengage.

Until, of course, the shit hits the fan.

And that's too bad because by then we have all become hostages!

So what are we to do then? Well we should probably allĀ  Support Fair Vote or look into other ideas on How to Fix Gerrymandering and Stop Future Shutdowns. At least these solutions won't require us to get involved in an all out Insurrection or a Civil War, right?

But doing nothing is not an option any longer.

Because Gerrymandering Perpetuates Government Shutdowns!

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  • I don't think you can attribute anything to the Founding Fathers, given that the Constitution originally had the Senate elected by state legislators, the Electoral College (sure made a hash of one man one vote in 2000), and 3/5 representation for slaves (who couldn't vote themselves). It was only in the 1960s that it was decided that a state Senate could not be apportioned like the U.S. Senate, i.e. on the basis of territory.

    I agreed with regard to the gerrymandering in this state, and that gerrymandering on the national level resulted in the lack of a middle in Congress.

    However, it is the lack of a middle and unwillingness to do the people's business that has resulted in deadlock in most forms of government, other than those under the iron fist, such as the Chicago City Council. There are veto proof Dem majorities in Illinois but the supposed deadlock on pension reform, and good old Dem. Emanuel, while decrying the national GOP, is doing exactly the same thing with regard to the RTA, which is 2 months behind the statutory deadlines for setting a tentative budget, with no end in sight.

    The real question is why politicians have lost all sense of public purpose, and gerrymandering might only be one of many causes.

  • In reply to jack:

    In reality, I suppose we can't since we didn't live in those times but I have to believe that my History instructors offered me something none the less. Matter of fact, I thought long and hard on the 3/5 vote and even had it in my draft but I chalked it up to the America at founding was very much based on English common law which granted voting rights to landowners.

    Even Jefferson, being a slave-owner, tried hard to put it into perspective by educating those under his control. Unfortunately slavery is a blot on our history but I don't think that when the framers got down to business, they looked at what they were putting down on parchment a living breathing flexible document that could withstand the sands of time. And as we have seen, it has been just that.

    I still think that the Founders understood the value of discourse versus obstructionism which apparently came into vogue later. But that's just it - the Constitution while flexible has been left to extreme interpretation at times and we see that coming into vogue relatively recent.

    Law-makers and the Judiciary have found loopholes and apply them without regard to the unintended consequences. In no universe but ours do we see representation maps that have emerged all over this country and we all know what the intent is (was).

    Perhaps it is that unwillingness to find middle ground that predicates that behavior, but either way that is the result just the same. Gerrymandering is an abuse of power clear and simple.

    Because at the end of the day the things you speak of that these hypocrites do is by virtue of it. I think it is a bigger part than we imagine.

  • In reply to Michael Ciric:

    Heading off on collateral matters, a reliable source (as opposed to wikis) indicates that it was solely a balancing of power between the North and the South; the North would have too much power in the House if slaves didn't count and the South too much if they did. As you note, Jefferson and the others from Virginia were slaveholders, and thus had an interest. I seem to recall that it also had to do with taxation, as Art. I Sec. 2 Cl. 3 also provides that direct taxes were to be assessed in the same manner as seats in the House.

    Elbridge Gerry, after whom the gerrymander was named, was governor of Massachusetts about 1810, which is sure closer to the Founding Fathers than the invention of fair computerized legislative redistricting, although the computer also made gerrymandering into a science.

    The real question is why modern day politicians think obstructionism is the only way of political survival. It might be that it helps them with the ideologues in their districts (which probably are safe, anyway), but are there that many ideologues who can't figure out that their positions would lead to disaster? Looking at such places as Yahoo! Finance comments (which I think are by people who don't work, but think they can get rich on gold and bitcoins), and even in the right pane here, maybe there are.

  • In reply to jack:

    No doubt it was a balancing act - after all it was a new nation with new ideas (yet based on principles brought with them from England). So I guess many thing were done because that was the norm, especially land ownership (and with it slavery). Whether that be right or wrong. And that is why I hesitate to look at our history with a revisionist point of view. I mean it was what it was.

    But I don't think anyone can deny that Gerrymandering has been elevated to a modern art form since Elbridge Gerry found a backdoor. I suppose it is all relative but I think the dynamics changed after the Nations' Great Expansion Westward. I suppose it is all relative but me thinks political greed really evolved after that. Especially the effects of Railroad Barons who were carving up the country's geo-political map. Lot of factors and motivations my friend.

    As for why modern day politicians do what they do in terms of obstructionism well I think you hit it on the nail so far as their ideologues and districts go. And yes I don't think they realize the grave damage they can cause.

    So far as the ads - we bloggers have no control over the content. That's Google and Ad Choice and individual browsing habits

  • In reply to Michael Ciric:

    On the last point, I didn't mean ads, and I don't see them because I use Waterfox with AdBlock Plus.* I was referring to about 7 blogs on my boycott list, 3 of which I see at the moment.

    Railroad barons would probably be around the 1870s, according to Hedley Lamar (that's Hedley).

    I think we previously discussed the other factor, which is the Voting Rights Act cases, which seem to come down to gerrymandering is not o.k. on a racial basis, even in the case of reverse discrimination, but o.k on a political basis, which, to me seems bass ackward. Of course, the south side of Chicago is now "represented" by someone from Matteson.

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    *If enough people would get rid of IE, and get Firefox or Google Chrome with AdBlock, the economic basis of the Internet might be overthrown.

  • In reply to jack:

    First and last points first; are your boycotted ones on my personal blogroll or further down the line in "Related" or "Read These?" Also I use Firefox almost exclusively but has been acting weird at times and crashes too much lately.

    True Hedley and the Baron Robbers would have been right after the Civil War - but they had a hell of an impact on the political fabric as they laid those tracks as they had a big hand in who was running new territories and most often went to people just as (if not more) corrupt than the barons.

    Yes many discussions on the Voting Rights Act and its inequities - as I have said over and over, though - the system is rigged and being taken away from the common man. Ironically, the people are generally too stupid to realize it or just don't care. A toxic mix.

    Sadly, things aren't getting better my friend, only worse. The only consolation, I guess, is that I am near the end of my stay on the Blue Ball meandering through space. Hopefully the younger generation will figure it out although that seems unlikely.

  • In reply to Michael Ciric:

    The boycott is on certain Chicago Now blogs that show up on any Politics category page (yes, the "Read These...." and 3 on the "Related").

    As far as the younger generation, again if the Facebook crowd on Chicago Now is any indication, there are too many mommies Facebooking than taking care of their kids, and too many kids fooling around with video games and smart phones. There may be the next generation of Elon Mosk or Max Levchin out there, but I bet, as was the case from Einstein and about every other genius since them, outside the formal school system.

  • In reply to jack:

    I fear you are right as rain on that.

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