Priceless Debate Moment: Obamacare Modeled On Romneycare and Actually Suggested By Newt

Priceless Debate Moment: Obamacare Modeled On Romneycare and Actually Suggested By Newt

Perhaps the most hilarious moment in the so-called "Far West GOP Debate" was when former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum provoked Mitt Romney by saying he had no credibility in vowing to repeal Obamacare because President Obama modeled his program, in part, after Romney's Massachusetts program. After Romney gave his standard debate answer, Newt Gingrich appeared to side with Romney we he said the others were overstating the similarities between the two plans, but then he too proceeded to chide Romney by calling his plan as "one more big government, bureaucratic, high-cost system" that requires individuals to purchase insurance. Well, at that point Romney responds by saying: "Actually, Newt, we got the idea of an individual mandate from you."

And just like that Mastercard Commercial - Absolutely Priceless!

So which is it then? Did President Obama hijack a GOP plan as the basis for his health care bill or is Mitt Romney really a Democrat in disguise? Then again, wasn't Texas Governor once a Democrat himself? Heck if I'm not mistaken he even supported Al Gore in the 1988 Presidential campaign?

So many questions and so few answers.

But that is what every GOP debate have offered thus far.

You know, maybe there would be something more to excited about if these candidates actually stopped the bickering at each other and actually offer the voters something more to hang their hats on. Pundits may think that there is still plenty of time for these candidates, but it really is about gathering some momentum and a solid following.

I have said it before that the GOP should be a cinch to defeat President Obama given he is the weakest incumbent Democratic President since Jimmy Carter. Yet, President Obama can hold out hope that the GOP will continue to turn off the critical Independent vote need to win the Political Trifecta because they refuse to get beyond discrediting each other. I just wonder if they can ever unite long enough to tap into the undecided voter before they lose them to apathy.

As it stands - I can't vote for any of these people in good conscience (and that includes President Obama) right now.

And let's face it - both sides of the aisle aren't exactly giving anyone a warm and fuzzy feeling when it comes to solving the nation's problems. Unfortunately that also means that the incumbents maintains an ever so slight edge every time the GOP fails to ignite interest in their candidates. At least so far as the presidential race goes. As for the House and Senate, well, they should probably fare better - but that is no slam dunk either.

But let's say that is the case - the next four years would promise to be even more dysfunctional than usual in Washington. And you already know that if President Obama does win reelection it would an even lamer lame duck presidency than usual. Complete and utter gridlock will be the result - and that will in no way be good for the country.

So what's it going to be? Will we see something more resembling a presidential debate or will it continue to go down the same old road?

It's the GOP's choice whether they will seize it or lose it

But then again, I am still waiting for someone outside this group to emerge.


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  • I guess it is also summed up by polls saying that the generic Rep. candidate beats Obama 55-45, but Obama beats anyone in this field.

    While I don't think "rehire the teachers" nor "balanced budget amendment" (which seems to be the competing rhetoric on the jobs bill that isn't going to be passed) gets one anywhere, the GOP probably has to get off "from which one of us did Obama steal health care."

    In the meantime, there is gridlock enough if, for instance, they still can't pass a transportation authorization bill. Of course, if the CTA Tattler is any indication, the beneficiaries of that would be consultants rather that unemployed building tradespeople.

    Personally, I'm not passing on the debates, because I don't have cable TV.

  • In reply to jack:

    Hey I am still hoping and praying that someone I can support shows up. I have yet to hear a complete message I can embrace - but I certainly am not happy at the prospect that Obama could conceivably still win reelection given the dismal state in the State of the Union. He should be further down in the polls - don't you think?

  • "He should be further down in the polls - don't you think?"

    No, for the obvious reasons that the economy fell apart on Bush's watch (despite some dimbulb on a Tribune comment board blaming Obama for the Goldman Sachs bailout in 2008), as well as there being a certain amount of blue states in any event.

    I still think "the SEALS got Osama, and the drones got the American Al Qaeda" on Obama's watch has some traction, but probably not much.

    The far left might not be responding in his favor, but I wonder if such people as the Chicana blogger are going to abandon Obama because of deporting so many people, when the other debate is over whether Romney used illegal immigrant labor.

    There is also the probably that 80% are not going to answer "I don't give a sh--," not to mention that if polling is done by phone, most of us don't pick up for questionable caller IDs.

  • In reply to jack:

    I agree the economy fell apart under Bush and Obama gets undue blame.

    But yes I am referring more to what you alluded to more than anything. His failure to keep his base happy. Especially on the Immigration Issue, based on that last Frontline episode I watched. The Latino vote will be critical for him and their support numbers are way down because of the steady deportations. His explanations and rightful shifting of much of the blame on the GOP's refusal to debate it has fallen on deaf ears. I mean I understand that the Obama Administration MUST follow the law as mandated under the Constitution and separation of powers. At least until the law is changed. And there will be no debate on that issue coming into the 2012 Election - guaranteed. Never the less, his Latino supporters are not happy about it. Now the Latino vote will not desert Obama and suddenly go to the GOP, they will just stay home. That (turnout) could be Obama's danger zone. That is why I would have thought his numbers further down.

    However, if does get his base out, then the GOP is in trouble because as you even pointed out, no singular GOP candidate, at this point, has the poll numbers to beat him in spite of their overall poll numbers.

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