Flyers Fans A Classless Act

It was a physical series, but not a dirty one.  The hits came, but
for the most part they were clean.  There were instances of
exhilaration, and moments of despair.  When it was all said and done,
the Chicago Blackhawks skated off the Philadelphia ice, proudly hoisting
Lord Stanley's Cup.  In a series which featured a little bit of
everything that makes hockey, and sports in general, great, the only
thing missing was an audience grateful enough to appreciate the outcome.

The Philadelphia Flyers nearly accomplished the impossible in the
2010 NHL Playoffs.  Showing great resilience, the seventh seed in the
Eastern Conference defied all odds for most of their playoff run. 
Rallying from a three-games-to-none deficit against Boston in the
conference semifinals, the Flyers showed heart, passion, and
determination to earn a berth in the Stanley Cup Finals.  Their efforts
fell short as they were unable to defeat the more talented Chicago
Blackhawks, but their determination was never in question.

The same, however, can not be said
for their loyal supporters.

As Wednesday night's post-game ceremonies took place, the reactions
by Flyers fans were nothing short of rude.  In a city who's team was
fortunate enough to outlast the likes of vastly superior teams, one
would imagine Flyers fans would express gratitude for the effort their
team expelled over the course of the grueling NHL Playoffs.  There was
no ovation when commissioner Gary Bettman commended the Flyers for their
effort.  There was no reaction when the most coveted trophy in
professional sports, the Stanley Cup, was brought onto the ice.  As the
hometown Flyers left the ice for the final time in the 2009-10 season,
that one last "thank you" from Philadelphia faithful was no where to be
found.

As Blackhawks captain Jonathan Toews accepted the Conn Smythe Trophy
as the MVP of the playoffs, Philadelphia fans booed.  As Toews put his hands on the Stanley Cup for the first
time, Philadelphia fans booed louder.  As each of the members of the
victorious Chicago Blackhawks hoisted the cup over their heads in
celebration, Philadelphia fans, well, booed some more.

This was not a series filled with bad blood.  There were momentum
shifts galore throughout all six games.  Never was anyone accused of a
cheap shot, and not once did a single player from either team drop his
gloves.  Essentially, this was as clean a series as one could ask for,
and the outcome was solely based on the quality of hockey that took
place for the better part of two weeks.

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Flyers fans should be ashamed for their cold reaction to not only the
victorious 'Hawks, but for the lack of appreciation and support they
displayed toward their very own Flyers.  Forever known as "the fans who
booed Santa Claus", Wednesday night's gutless display of "crybabyness"
further solidifies Philadelphia as a city undeserving of the winning
results they've experienced in recent years.

Congratulations are in order for the Flyers on a remarkable season
and playoff run.  For a team that didn't even gain a berth in the
playoffs until the final day of the regular season, their playoff run is
something that will be remembered and appreciated by hockey fans
worldwide.

It's just too bad their own followers decided the effort wasn't even
worthy of congratulation.

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  • I couldn't agree more! What a bunch of classless losers. I guess now I have good reason to root against teams from Philly.

  • In reply to drewkent23:

    People like you are low class. Poor winners. Flyers fans gave Blackhawks' fans props, but that's not good enough for you, you have to mock and ridicule them. YOU ARE the classless loser.

  • In reply to Longshanks:

    As an adult amateur hockey player and a die-hard Hawks fan, I can honestly say that this article isn't accurate. My friends and I were surprised (pleasantly) at how long the Flyers fans at the game stayed to watch the Cup ceremony and the Hawks celebration. Sure there was some booing, but also plenty of cheering. Every city has its infamous incidents of fan behavior (disco demolition, White Sox fan attack of umpire, car-burnings after Bulls championships sound familiar?). I doubt anyone in Chicago would feel it fair to characterize all Chicago sports fans by a few unsavory events. While we are entitled to add Pronger to our list of sports villains (due to his hard-nosed play), we should thank the Philly fans for making a great playoff atmosphere that along with the environment at the Madhouse will hopefully help to bring hockey back into the mainstream sports narrative. Best of luck in the East next year Flyers -

  • In reply to krejcij:

    A few? A few???? Are you f--king kidding me? The whole crowd was booing. You could hear it through the TV loud and clear. Sorry but you sir, are an ijit.

  • In reply to Superdessucke:

    WAH!!! Go cry about it you fucking baby's!!!

    This is the problem with newbie fans. They just don

  • In reply to Superdessucke:

    GoPhylers-

    Maybe you can skate the attendance figures around the area and pass it around each of the players.

    And then have a parade for the attendance figures. That would be fun.

    There's a whole generation of Hawks fans that never got to see the team play on television. Add poor play and a lockout to the mix and yes, the Hawks did not draw very well. If the Flyers werent on TV for over a decade the attendance numbers would suffer.

    You know not of what you speak.

    Go drink some champange out of the attendance numbers.

    Thanks

  • In reply to krejcij:

    Classless? I'm reading classless right now! I am disappointed that a clueless blog like this garnered any attention whatsoever, but the simple hilarity of it no doubt brings all comers, myself included.

    That you feel the need to write the cheapest of blogs just to generate any response to your musings whatsoever shows a desperation that will likely result in a change of career. Give up while you still have a choice!

    I'll say no more of the worthless content and simply question why you ever felt a need to post such a thing a fan of the WINNER. Enjoy it you fool, don't feel the need to publish self serving lies. I truly question whether you are a fan at all.

    Wondering if you are simply caught in the moment, I took a brief look at some of your previous posts... No, confirmation that you are a simple case of hack scum. Deriding, base articles more caught up in the worst case of fan vs. fan, us vs. them worthy of Cold War era hyperbole.

    To even stoop to calling out random, inconsequential fans in online pictures establishes you at the worst of bloggers. My own personal comment on YOUR photo is it looks like a mug shot of a pedophile... How does that feel?

    How about an actual INSIGHT into the game, or is that asking too much? How about congratulation the winner of a hard fought series. How about following the national broadcast commentary (these guys have actual jobs so it would be wise to take note from them) in noticing a surprisingly well mannered response from the crowd (barring the annual, deserved booing of Gary, and the ever present scattering of disgruntled patrons).

    No, I think I'll just drum up some lies and some line about snowballs at santa and pretend I'm a proper journalist when my hit count goes up...

    Well anyway Georgy, thanks for you opinion!

  • In reply to krejcij:

    This is what you good from a bunch of bandwagon hockey amateurs. It is as much an NHL tradition to boo Gary Bettman as it is to give the cup to the winning team's captain. I know you haven't seen a Stanley Cup celebration in 49 years but go back to those in the last five years and you will see Bettman get a chilly response in every arena he is in. I suppose singing da da da da da, simple lyrics for your phone base, is a classy way to celebrate. Go back to writing about something you do know about.

  • In reply to krejcij:

    This video sums up Flyers fans:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZUtEeTKCk0
    Low class animals. Your team lost! Now you can cry it about it. Feel free to come boo our parade, but we'll be cheering our boys!
    Kudos to the Flyers, those guys showed some real heart.

  • In reply to AnnoyedGuy:

    Check the NHL attendance data for the last 5 years, moron. Flyers fans support thru thick and thin. Hawks were outstanding. You don't deserve them.

  • In reply to AnnoyedGuy:

    That drunken blonde twit probably got free tickets from some corporate sponsor... didn't look like a hockey fan to me. What was up with the Moobs on that one dude? WHOA

  • In reply to AnnoyedGuy:

    I have to say the writer is a bandwagon fan.Almost got the story right.The Philly fans didn't boo Santa Claus ya strap artist,they threw snowballs at him and Santa jumped out of the sliegh and ran for his life.I know cause I was an usher at Franklin field during that game.I am a dyed in the wool Philly fan,the only city in sports history to win the world championship,then fire the coach.I LOVE Chicago cubs fans,they still throw the ball back on the field.In Philly they would have to pry it outa their hands with a crowbar. The writer should know the term Broad Street Bullies came about starting with Kieth Magnason,Chicagos policeman on the ice who used to pound on the Flyers until Schulz came along and broke his jaw and then they were the bullies.Any fan knows ,get 100 people in one room ,add disinhibator,and watch the knuckleheads come forth regardless of jerseys worn.Just so the bandwagon guy knows,that was goooood hockey!

  • In reply to AnnoyedGuy:

    I think it is HILARIOUS that Chicago is complaining about sore losing when they have been guilty of (in my mind) a MUCH worse crime - sore winning. Beginning with the "Chrissy" Pronger in the Chicago Tribune, followed with an embarrassing interview from Burish (a few minutes after winning the cup) about Chris Pronger, followed by the "Chris Pronger is gay" locker room photo, and now an article claiming Philadelphia is classless and unsupportive of our team. If you can find some press where Philadelphia has, in any way, bashed the Hawks after losing the cup - please send it to me, I would love to read it. When the Blackhawks won the cup, I was incredibly disappoint

  • In reply to AnnoyedGuy:

    Sorry I posted before I finished ... -ed, but I had no hard feelings towards Chicago. Now, however, after seeing the little appreciation Chicago has shown for the Cup (apparently bashing one of the best defenseman in the league is a better time) and the wretchedness they've shown to Philadelphia, I have lost all respect for the Blackhawks and their fans.

  • In reply to clairexoxo8:

    Eh don't let this blog turn you off to Chicago, if you watched the end of the game you know this guy's post is at least halfway BS....not to mention most of us Hawks fans would love to have Pronger on our team (even the ad in the Tribune acknowledged that fact) but since he's not we hate him.

  • In reply to krejcij:

    Right on! Sure, there were some boos, but what do you expect? All those fans paid big bucks to attend the game, and certainly came hoping for a different result. And the players, they are professionals. They have to expect this and live with it, but frankly, I was so ecstatic about about the end of the drought and the fulfillment of the dream, that I couldn't hear the boos, and I doubt any of the Blackhawks did either. If they did hear boos, they should have expected a few, but they are pros and should be able to handle them like any champion winning in an opponent's rink.

  • In reply to Longshanks:

    BTW, the fans were booing Gary Bettman not the Blackhawks, get your information correct idiot.

  • In reply to Longshanks:

    You mean classless WINNER! HA! Ya know, because we won and all.

  • In reply to Longshanks:

    ahhhhh....haha.....GO HAWKS

  • In reply to drewkent23:

    Well I get your point, and honestly I am happy we actually lost to another real sports city who will enjoy it and deserves it, and didnt lose to san jose or some other joke of a sports town. I am just annoyed at the laziness of the writer in this story who took a cheap shot when he didn't need to. If he wants to go to the santa claus thing like every one else I will just remind of a cubs fan dumping beer on shane victorino last year, or white sox fans beating up a first base coach for the royals.

  • This made me laugh out loud. We must have been watching a different game. A severely disappointed arena of people acted perfectly appropriately. Some booing, and if you look/listen (apparently you didn't), some Flyers fans are standing, applauding the youngsters parading the cup. And the Flyers fans gave one last chant of "Let's go Flyers" as the players lined up. The announcers made note of it. No, it wasn't a cheering throng of ecstatic people, but it was perfectly appropriate in the circumstances. It was an awesome series with two great teams, and I enjoyed watching Toews and Kane celebrate. Where do those youngsters go from here? And why are you trying to make something out of nothing?

  • I was at Chicago Stadium in 1992 in Game 4 when the Penguins finished off the Hawks. We hung around for an hour, and I recall cheering when the Cup came out to honor the new (and defending) champs. The difference was the Hawks weren't really in that series despite keeping the games close. The Flyers were a couple bounces away from winning the whole thing, and also from forcing a Game 7. I understand their immense letdown and nobody littered the ice with debris but they didn't do anything to make themselves look good.

  • In reply to JimmyGreenfield:

    Hey Jimmy - it's time to either shave that playoff beard or change your name to Osama bin Greenfield! Go 'Hawks!

  • In reply to JimmyGreenfield:

    Spot on. Yes, the Philly fans cheered for their team for a couple of minutes, probably so as to avoid crying out loud. But from the moment Bettman stepped on the ice, there was loud booing. The cheering that was happening was from the thousand or so Chicago fans there, and from the few Flyers fans with enough class to cheer a superior team or players who formerly played in Philly. It was a shameful partisan performance by fans who aren't interested in good hockey, only winning and gloating. I'm so glad we won the Cup in Philly, if only to shut up some of the worst fans in hockey.

  • In reply to psennett:

    Actually Chicago fans are the worst in hockey. You didn't show up for 10 years to support your team. No excuses about the owner. Blah Blah Blah. You didn't show, period. You illustrate perfectly how low class you are. You mention winning and gloating, so what do you think you're doing? Chicago fans have been so arrogant this entire series. Ever since your team won the West you've acted as if you already won the cup. First it was that the Blackhwaks would sweep. Wrong. Then it was they'll win in 5 Games. Wrong. It took 6 hard fought games plus an OT to win it. Then you act like Flyers fans are supposed to get on their knees and genuflect? Get lost pal. Your team won, big deal. But yet people like you are so arrogant that you think all Flyers fans are supposed to act like your god. Ever since this series started there have been droves of Chicago fans posting on ESPN and on Philly.com nothing but derogatory comments about Philly, the people that live here, the Flyers, etc. Chicago people are so arrogant, and for what reason? Your sports teams win something once every century it seems, no reason to hold your noses up. In my opinion, the midwest is just something you have to fly over to get to the West Coast. Winning it isn't good enough for you, you have to put down the other team's fans. THAT'S THE DEFINITION OF LOW CLASS.

  • In reply to Longshanks:

    Yeah, Chicago fans are the worst. We refuse to pay our hard-earned money to support a team that is being run like the corner deli, cash on the counter, refuses to pay players - but we should all go there and cheer. Maybe we are looking at this the wrong way. Maybe classless isn't the right word for Philly fans. We should try unintelligent. Because that's the definition of supporting a team that doesn't support the players or fans by putting on a decent show.

    I don't want genuflection, pal. I want you to act like you understand the game, that your team was outplayed and probably outperformed their own talents.

    This isn't about gloating over who won. This is about the very immature, inarticulate response by enough of the Flyers fans there that people heard loud and sustained booing on TV (which is where most of us watched the game). If it was different in person, then the point is still the same. The way I and others all over the planet heard it is that Flyers fans booed the league, their opponents and even their own team (the booing for Bettman continued right through his asking the crowd to give a hand to the Flyers for their effort). I'm sure he would have tried to milk more positive response out of the crowd if everyone had loudly cheered. But the booing continued, and so he moved right into the MVP award.

    But MORE TYPING IN ALL CAPS!

  • In reply to psennett:

    I know the game because I've watched it for 20 years and I support my team through good and bad. As usual, it's more excuses about why fair weather Chicago fans don't show up. Blah Blah the former owner Blah Blah. Excuses. The team was a doormat for 10 years and now everyone's a fan. LOL.

    Unintelligent? Surely you jest. I'd put my education against yours any day. Not to mention that this city has some of the best university's in the nation, maybe we can lend you rednecks one or two.

    "The way I and others all over the planet heard it" Exactly, you're the kind of moron that perpetuates these things. "You heard" is precisely the point. What's frightening is that someone that's so egotistical and arrogant is someone's dad. God help us all.

  • In reply to Longshanks:

    Sorry, can't resist the irony here: I think you mean the plural "universities" and not "university's." Can't deny your town has some tremendous academic institutions. But I doubt even they would condone a careless (and common) grammatical error.

  • In reply to cmm527:

    Not that I want to contribute to this unhelpful back and forth between the denizens of two cities that are both world-class with rabid sports fans (and thus, more alike than different, which may ultimately be driving the p***ing contest)...but Longshanks, you forget that Chicago is actually home to two of the most elite universities in the world - Northwestern and U of C. "Rednecks" is hardly the word to use.

  • In reply to Longshanks:

    Did you go to school to write this garbage. 20 people boo and that accounts for the whole arena. Get a life and come to Philly during football season and we will really show you some class. Not a Flyers fan at all and was rooting for the Hawks (congrats) ....................CUBBIES S*CK

  • In reply to Longshanks:

    Shanks, if you support your team even when the ownership doesn't seem to give a crap about the product that they put on the ice, and is just taking the money and running, then you are unintelligent. I have been a Blackhawks fan for over 40 years, but for many years I wouldn't give them my navel lint because ownership was more interested in profit than quality. Like any product, when the price goes up and the quality goes down, I put my money elsewhere. I remained a fan, just didn't give them my money. When the quality went back up, they start to see my cash again.

  • In reply to psennett:

    My man, you should provide the entry in Wikipedia for a fair weather fan.

  • In reply to Longshanks:

    First of all, this is not an article. its a blog post by one person expressing his opinion. It's not a good one, I'll give you that, but just an opinion. Secondly, the idea of "class" in sports is tossed around a lot. What does that mean exactly? What is a fan supposed to do in order to be deemed "classy"??

    Live and let live people. There are bigger tragedies in the world.

    and just so we're clear:

    YEAH BLACKHAWKS BABY!!!

  • In reply to psennett:

    SamsDad,
    I am a die-hard Blckhawks fan & I still supported the team after everything "Dollar Bill" did to destroy it. I would go to at least 3 games a year for the past 20 years. To say that Blackhawks fans refused to pay to support our team is disrespectful to the fans who stuck with the Hawks throughout the bad times.
    Yes I celebrated when Bill Wirtz died and have been overwhelmed with joy with what Rocky has done the past three years for the team.
    Please do not state that Hawks fans abandoned their team, the die hard fans have alwas supported their team. There have been a majority of bandwagon fans who have been trying to speak out on gbehalf of the die hard Blackhawks fans, which is disrespectful.

  • In reply to HeavyKev:

    Kev, I never said that fans abandoned the team. I said we stopped paying exorbitant rates to support an ownership that did not care about producing a quality product for the consumers. I have been a Blackhawks fan for over 40 years, and I worked for the NHL for 10. When I worked for the NHL, the Blackhawks were putting some of the most pathetic teams on the ice that you can imagine (Ted Bulley, Alain Daigle). It was 20 warm bodies. And eventually

  • In reply to psennett:

    fans stopped going and there weren't sellouts any more. That (and a certain owner's death) caused a change that has produced a Stanley Cup.

  • In reply to psennett:

    Great. Even a former NHL janitor knows nothing about hockey fans. So it's not just Bettman, Campbell and Dailey after all.

  • In reply to HeavyKev:

    HeavyKev, Rocky Wirtz is a world class guy, I'm glad he's doing his best to repair the ties with the fans. I wish some other owners would take a lesson from him, including the Devils and Flyers which are the two closest arenas to me. Much like Dollar Bill, they are greedier all the time.

  • In reply to psennett:

    I am ecstatic that the Blackhawks won the Stanley Cup. I have lived in Chicago my whole life & have always been a Blackhawks fan.
    I think it is hard to determine if the Flyers' fan were booing out of disrespect for the Blackhawks or not. Yes tere may have been a few bad apples who were disrepectful. Unless you were at the Wachovia Center it is difficult to determine what the fans were doing from the TV broadcast.

    I have visited Philadelphia countless times, and everytime I go there everyone I meet is very nice. Philadelphia is a great city and the people are just as passionate about their sports teams as Chicago is.
    I believe that this article is a little inaccurate.

    Congrats to the Flyers for playing a great series

  • In reply to HeavyKev:

    Kev,
    The stadium has microphones all around it, to get ambient crowd reaction to plays on the ice. Those microphones were live during the post-game activities, and it is absolutely unmistakable that there was almost constant booing audible until the number of Blackhawks fans outnumbered the remaining Flyers fans. I have watched the OT and post-game several times, and anyone who doesn't think there were loud and persistent boos is just not listening.

  • In reply to psennett:

    How do you hear anything with your rectum in the way?

  • In reply to psennett:

    Mr. Ruxpin (and others),

    The simple fact of the matter is that the Flyers' faithful had a stellar opportunity to raise the roof of the Wachovia Center upon Bettman's congratulations of the Flyers' tremendous post-season, but they chose to sit on their hands. The "Lets Go Flyers" chant didn't start until AFTER Toews accepted his Conn Smythe and the Hawks' Stanley Cup. Rather than take the opportunity to applaud the home team at the moment given, Flyers fans chose to acknowledge THEIR team while the winners should have been acknowledged for their accomplishment.

    Check out some footage from Malkin and Crosby accepting their awards last season. You'll see how even DETROIT fans know how to show appreciation and class.

    Granted, every fan base has its blemishes, but it's rare to see a home team's fanbase react as poorly as the Flyers' did.

    Want an example of a classy response in a similar situation? Check out the Oklahoma City Thunder's fans reaction to their recent series loss to the Lakers. Standing ovation until both teams left the floor. And that's not an easy thing to do when your team gets beat by one of the NBA's most hated franchises.

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    I largely avoid these debates because they are, well, pathetic (i.e., bandwagon fans, booing, really!?), but your griping is beyond the pale - coming after the Blackhawks deservedly won the cup. Let's take your premise that the Flyers fans are classless for booing. What do you call the treatment received by Bartman from Chicago fans, pelting him with garbage, requiring a police escort home, death threats, police presence outside his home and, I think, making him move? Deplorable, reprehensible, despicable, some other adjective ending in -able. This smacks of intelectual dishonest. Tellingly, you don't address this, but rather cowardly say every fanbase has its blemishes without taking on your sins. I would call you a hack journalist with no integrity, but, alas, you are not a journalist, but a blogger. . .something I do as a hobby on nights and weekends.

    I also take exception with your "evidence" that these posts are too mean and you are receiving nasty personal e-mails for support that we are classless. First, some of the posts coming from both sides are filled with vitriol and demonstrate anything but class - beginning with your lazily written, myopic, distorted piece of garbage. Second, you don't get to prick the beast, then cry when it comes at you. Did you expect to write something awful as this, then not expect to get called out on it. Classless responses to a classless piece of text does not corroborate your point. For Chicago's sake, I hope you did not get educated in any of their fine institutions. By the way, if you need advice on handling death threats, call Bartman (see above).

    And finally, I was actually excited to play Chicago because I thought there would be great trash talking between the cities without the incessant whining about fans. When we played the Dodgers and NYY in our world series run last year and the year before, they actually had some grit as well. I expected the same from Chicago, but came away sadly disappointed. I loved your city and told everyone it was my favorite outside of my own, have been there several times for work, pleasure and everything in between (marathon is fantastic), but I lost alot of respect for you today. I will now have to accede that you truly have become, at best, the second city - real bush league.

    To the true fans of Chicago, enjoy your parade, you and your team earned it. For those of you still worried about our fans, ironically calling us names, well I guess there will always be a petty sort out there.

    PS if you really want to see something that will give you chills, watch the ovation the Flayers fans poured on Super Mario after he returned from cancer and also after his last game when the orange and black knocked the Pens out in I believe the 96-97 playoffs. I was in school in NYC at the time, but drove down just for that game. It is still one of the best memories of my sports life.

  • In reply to TheGrinder:

    Mr. TheGrinder,

    I disagree with your notion that I have hidden from anything. The "cry" you speak of was quite the contrary -- I was rather amused.

    Sure, I can pick numerous occasions of fans demonstrating a lack of class:

    The "Bartman Incident"
    The White Sox fan umpire beating incident
    Drunk Phillies fan vomits on an 11 year-old girl
    Phillies fan gets tasered (bonus points for the security guard's actions)
    Phils fans throwing batteries at JD Drew
    Phills fans throwing batteries at Dick Allen (one of your own players -- you figure out the reason)
    Phils fans throwing batteries at everyone else
    Eagles fans booing Donovan McNabb at the NFL Draft (actually this started a trend for the NFL Draft)
    '72 fight at the Spectrum -- in the stands, involving Blues coach
    Eagles faithful erupting in cheers as Michael Irvin lay motionless on the ground after neck injury

    Think that's a decent list, no?

    One bit of credit to Philly - You guys made great strides by instilling a court, judge, and jail within Veteran's Stadium. Did that lovely feature carry over to Lincoln Financial?

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    None of which I disagree with, but you left some things off the list:

    "The night disco died"

    Randy Myers....maybe someone should have tazed the guy charging him

    Dodgers brawl with Cubs FANS

    giving Victorino a miller lite chaser

    and why was that 2008 Twins-White Sox game delayed. . .oh yeah, fans throwing stuff on the field

    Chicago seems to have compiled a nice little list on its own, wouldn't you agree? We no longer have a court in our stadium, but maybe you should consider one for Wrigley.

    However, you still fail to dispute that if we are classless as fans, then what are Chicago's fans? Again, your drivel is riddled with nothing but inconsistency and you really don't have a leg to stand on to dispute that.

  • In reply to TheGrinder:

    You really shouldn't count anything that happened at a White Sox game....hardly anyone in Chicago likes them.

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    LOL. Clothes for it now.

    http://netdugout.com/chicago/2010/06/11/philadelphia-apparel/

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    We were booing the commissioner - he's all about marketing - and the selection of Toews as the MVP who didn't do much in this series. Not the Hawks who -played a great series. Niemi should have gotten the award, by rights. As far as our fans - well we didn't use the press to trash your players as you did with Pronger. Also, we've filled our house over decades, unlike the 7,000 average fans I saw in attendance in 2006 and 2007 at the United Center. But really after you've won the Stanley Cup why would you worry about Philly fans? Unless you see how close you were to blowing it.

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    Dear George,
    On behalf of all philly sports fans i would like to apologize. We're sorry we hurt your feelings. We're sorry we made you cry. We're sorry you weren't loved enough as a child. We're sorry your mommy never taught you sticks and stones. We're sorry you don't have the ability to understand what it means to be a die-hard sports fan. We're sorry we went to hockey games in 2007. We're sorry we don't give two shits about Johnathon Toews. We're sorry we showed support for our team even after a loss. We're sorry watching another team win on our home ice doesn't make us all giddy inside. We're sorry you can't feel the joy of winning the cup without taking a cheap shot at loyal hockey fans. We're sorry you wrote an article with the sole intention of pissing of philly fans. And we're sorry we don't care about the your misconstrued view of class.

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    McNabb is the biggest choker and most over-rated player in all of sports. He deserves to be boo'd. And I can't stand the Eagles.

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    Funny he never responded further to the equal list of Sicago fan "classy" moments. Only difference is we don't brand the entire city for the acts of a few idiotic individuals, like he and other "media" outlets have done.

    Ps.
    Creepy Photo, George. Which would explain why you have a stalker fetish with Philly fans now.

    Stay Classy!

  • In reply to punkrockdiva:

    Mr. FlyersDiva,

    I'm really not sure what type of response you're looking for. Those were some classless moments. I agree.

    If YOU (any of you) want to write a column, feature, story, blog, novel, or comic book of your own about the fans of Chicago, please, be my guest.

    If you don't mind, sir, I would like some further clarification on what exactly a "stalker fetish" is. Does that mean that I am "in" to stalkers who happen to be Philly fans, or...??? I'm lost on this one.

  • In reply to punkrockdiva:

    What game did you watch? I don't know who you are, author, but I attended Game 6. After we finally determined that the garbage goal counted, we chanted Lets-Go-Flyers and clapped for our team. Once I saw the Cup placed on the table, I left. Why the hell would I want to see your hawks skate around my stadium with the Cup? Maybe you should tell that thug Burish to choose his words better because his comments about Pronger showed how classless he was. But I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree in that club. Now that you've won the Cup, we in the northeast can go about ignoring your city like we do year-around.

  • In reply to Petefreans:

    Dude don't compate Burish to the rest of the team....he barely even played and was pissed about the whole puck thing which was pretty douchey of Pronger....but watch the handshake, the Hawks all gave Pronger his props for his great play, Buff in particular.

  • In reply to cubman987:

    And yet it's perfectly acceptable to compare some of these so-called classless Flyers fans with your general hardcore Flyers die-hards?

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    Honestly, WHO CARES ABOUT THE FANS IN PHILLY! We've got the cup and the parade. I could care less what they think...

    They should be out buying Kevin Kolb jerseys...HAAHAHAHAHA.

    Thanks to Philly players and fans for providing us the motivation to beat you into submission. I will never forget game MINUS 5.

    Maybe next time...

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Dog face is right. Now get down to the parade and try to pick up some fat chicks.

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    Agree 100%. Philly fans are completely classless, whether they are rooting for the Flyers, Eagles, or Phillies. It's a really sick city.

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    I was at the game and as mentioned this article is totally inaccurate. "Vastly superior"? What a cheap shot. The Devils, Bruins, and Canadiens were vastly superior when we beat two of those teams in 5 games. The Hawks, I agree, were superior but every game but one could have gone either way if you guys and gals know hockey like you proclaim.
    Every city has morons, I will never forget your city's great display at a White Sox game on a certain umpire. But I love Chicago and have had great experiences there and don't rip a whole city for isolated incidents. The Chicago fans on here like to pretend they are more "intelligent" than dumb cheesesteak eating fans. Sounds like an inferior midwest complex to me. Win with class and ignore the morons including the one who wrote this article. Congrats!! By the way give Kane 20 cents at the parade or he will beat you up. That is if you are under 5 foot 8.

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    Philly fans you can take all the shots you want.

    We had the most important shot. The game winner.

    Now move along...this blog is for winners only.

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    Hey Igor, check the NHL attendance records in '06 and '07 for both teams. You crow when the Hawks win and disappear when they lose. If you don't show support when your team is not winning, YOU'RE NOT A FAN!!

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    The Let's go Flyers chant was before, during, and after the handshake as the players left the ice, and did not happen again after the players were gone and wouldn't hear it. Bettman did a cheap scheme to get them to stop booing him for a second. That's about all it did, and they know with 100% certainty that his insincerity was at maximum levels. You must have watched your game highlights out of order or something. You must not have been in the building, or you must have been seriously drunk. Your facts are scrambled and your own fans have testified to it. Congrats to the real hawks fans, you deserve it and your team will be great for years to come.

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    " The "Lets Go Flyers" chant didn't start until AFTER Toews accepted his Conn Smythe and the Hawks' Stanley Cup."

    George, this is simply untrue. I heard the lets go flyers almost immediately after the reality of the goal set it (honestly, it's still setting in for me!), well before the trophies appeared on the ice, and i was in an incredibly loud ESPN zone in Baltimore watching the game.

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    This is the same paper that posted the headline: D-MINUS after the team lost 2 games in Philly?? Personally, I find the Hawks and their fans to be both sore losers and sore winners.

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    Oklahoma City is your example of great fans? Are you kidding me? In a list of best fans, the Thunder wouldn't even be in the top 50.

    Also love the blatantly wrong statement that the Flyers outlasted VASTLY superior teams. You obviously were just picking chalk, and/or jumped on the bandwagon recently, because the Flyers were being picked as one of leagues best teams pre-season. Yeah, they didn't get it together until the end, but I don't think you'll hear too many people saying they didn't deserve to be in the finals.

    One comforting thought is that as you attempt to forward your career, your potential employers will read this garbage and quickly realize that you are exactly where you deserve to be...the third best sports blogger on Chicagonow.com. Well done!

    Keep up the obviously incendiary work, you hack.

  • In reply to TerribleBlogReader:

    I never said Oklahoma City had "great fans", I simply said that their response to their team's series loss to the Lakers was great.

    Not sure why you feel the need to slight Oklahoma City, but if it makes Flyers fans feel better, so be it.

  • In reply to TerribleBlogReader:

    Oh give me a flipping break ! I guess that the home team is suppose to be happy that the visiting team just won the cup?? Get real. That is what happens when you play in another teams town. The only reason you don't hear it in football, is because the superbowl is played in a neutral place. All the fans stayed to see the ceremony, so that tells me that they have respect for the cup. When the White Sox won the world series in Texas, do you think the Houston fans were throwing a parade? You sir, need to go back to journalism school and get a refund !

  • In reply to TerribleBlogReader:

    This hack still has not answered my question about The Bartman incident. Instead, he tried to play the your list is longer than my list game - which he likely loses in /writers/fans/people than this. He chose this hill for his "journalistic" integrity to die on - writing something that was hypocritical at best. He is like the guy that writes about war, but never stepped on a battlefield. If he actually attended the game he would have seen Flyers fans, while booing, congratulate Blackhawk fans or maybe the drunk BH fan slurring at me that if this was the United Center I would not get out alive.

    By the way, to the BH fan that said he liked game minus five the best, I have to admit that was pretty good.

    I refuse to make his trash appear more popular than it is any more. Enjoy the cup Chicago!!!!

    Wheels up. . .

  • In reply to TerribleBlogReader:

    Wow, George D the only classless act around here is you and your blogging....oh sorry this is supposed to be reporting. I was in attendance for Game 6 and it sounds like you were watching and hoping for a story where there was none. Sure Flyers fans booed Bettmen, but if you're new to Hockey, like many of you Hawk fans are who jumped on board back all the way back 2 months ago, all NHL fans boo Bettmen, there are articles (real articles!) all over the internet with Hockey reporters (real ones!) who have wrote on why Bettmen shouldn't be presenting the Cup because he takes away from the celebration. Sure it's easy for you to say the fans booed Towes getting the Conn Smythe and not knowing the fact they were booing that Danny Briere got snubbed since he lead the entire Playoffs in scoring, including the finals where Towes only lead in faceoffs. You claim we didn't give our team a proper sendoff, yet they gave them a huge 5 minute "Let's go Flyers" chant as they shook hands and headed off the ice for the final time. Once Bettmen left the ice, the remaining Flyers fans gave the Hawks a well deserved ovation including a loud roar when Towes and Hossa lifted the cup (go look it up on Youtube). Fans in my section were actually singing that annoying Chelsea Dagger song out to them as they passed the cup around. You also fail to bring up the fact that many Flyers fans were giving Hawks fans in the concourse their ticket stubs so they could sneak down into the lower level seats to take in the celebration up close. When security were preventing Hawk fans from entering the lower level, our section started chanting "let them down, let them down" to which security finally obliged. One couple from Chicago who I shared the subway ride home with, were telling how they expected a lot worse and were won over by the Philly fans. She was saying how they got heckled for wearing Hawk colors during the game, but once the game was finally over many exiting fans actually stopped and shook their hands congratulating them.

    I know it's easy for you to jump on the "all Philly fans are evil" cliche, but do some fact checking to people including Hawk fans who were at the actual game. It's easy to brand an entire city because of the acts of a vocal minority, if I were to use your logic, then we would all think the Hawk fans were all sore winning, whining bandwagons, that want a 5-3 Power Play off every bit of contact because they think penalties are fouls from a Bulls game. We could brand you all as classless fans who throw beer at players while they're trying to catch a pop up. Oh right, then you would claim "but that's just a handful of people and not all of our city". You don't see our fans throwing beer at Kane as he's about to take his OT shot, you don't see our team writing "Keith is Gay" on the locker room board that was shown during the cup celebration, you don't see our papers setting the world back 70 years to show women as not being equal when saying a Player is a girl and should wear a dress. So before you do a blarticle on what is classy, take a long hard look in the mirror and meet Mr. Kettle.

  • In reply to punkrockdiva:

    Thats really cool that Philly fans let the Hawks fans go up front, I noticed quite a few of them were up front and wondered if that was the case.

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    That's actually very wrong, the "Lets Go Flyers" chant started before the handshakes and went on for a while, also, when the commissoner acknowledged the Flyers there was a very loud ovation....I'm not sure what you were watching there but the whole thing about them not supporting their team or chearing for them is dead wrong....you should probably take it out of your post because it makes you look like you don't know what you are talking about.....and I'm a huge Hawks fan and I've watched the replay of the winning goal and the presentations like 100 times since the game so I'm 100% sure of this.

    In regards to treatment of the Blackhawks, you are correct. They booed very loudly both times Toews was presented and the fans also went on to throw items at the players as they skated around and flipped them off, etc. Granted, I also saw a lot of Flyers fans clapping and being respectful as well but I do have to say there was a large minority that were a pretty poor example of how sports fans should act that night.

  • In reply to psennett:

    Let it go, Dad. Let Sam learn hatred out on the streets, like everyone else does.

  • In reply to psennett:

    Yup, sure the Flyers fans gave props to the Blackhawks and their fans, such as...after the winning goal was made and the TV cameras panned in for the gathering of Hawk players on the ice celebrating and hugging--you could CLEARLY see several Flyers fans behind them giving the players the "thumbs-down" gesture and a few upright middle-finger gestures as well--yes, very classy indeed! And, MAYBE there were some classy Flyers fans that cheered and clapped, which were overshadowed by the very loud booing that came over the television, but the point is... it's a competition, IT'S NOW OVER AND THERE IS A WINNER, your team lost--just as the Blackhawks could have lost...and when the game's over, you are now cheering and giving props for how great BOTH teams competed and played. So, essentially, we saw it as how Flyers fans disrespected their own team--did you see any Flyers players booing, giving hand gestures, etc.???!!? Flyers fans should learn lessons from their own team and grow up!

  • In reply to HeavyKev:

    Flyers fans have no reason to boo the Blackhawks. They were awesome. I only hope we meet again for a rematch next year. As a hockey fan, 2010 (with the Olympics and the Stanley Cup) was about as good as it gets. Go Flyers! Go Hawks!

  • In reply to psennett:

    "To the victors goes the spoils" as in Stanley Cup.
    The Joy of SIX! InDEED!
    Another team cannot take away your joy unless you let them....end of story.
    Flyers earned second place and the BLACKHAWKS are the 2010 CHAMPIONS--pure and simple.

  • In reply to psennett:

    Chicago is a city that you'll find pretentious fans enjoying glasses of wine at Cubs games. Chicago fans are jealous of the East Coast and therefore feel the need to display there insecurities by writing ignorant comments about our teams. People boo because they are upset, people boo because they are frustrated and people boo because it's, well fun! Chicago fans; you may have won the Cup, but just remember you'll always be second tier sports fans behind Philly, NY and Boston! Don't the journalists in Chicago have a little more creativity than shallow stories about Philly fans? Oh wait, they're from the Midwest and are slow. And finally, the people of Philly make going to games fun! They are united and will do anything possible to help their teams win a game. Chicago will never understand so this issue is completely dumb.

    And by the way, Philly has better pizza too!

  • In reply to AgainstChicago:

    Your last statement absolutely invalidates all the rest, but all the rest is basically unintelligible to boot. Yes, fans boo. But hockey fans who understand and respect the game, understand and respect the traditions and symbols of it. And if you boo the Commissioner and the MVP process and the Cup, you are a classless nitwit. To stand there and boo for almost five solid minutes, plus intermittent booing for the next ten, is just being a poor sport.

  • In reply to AgainstChicago:

    Really? The Blackhawks just won the Stanley Cup and all you can do is write an inaccurate article about Flyers fans? Every series the writers write negative things about Philly fans, albeit some of the complains are legit. However don't act like your fans aren't pulling some of the same stunts. I'm not here to belittle Chicago fans because I'd rather they soak up the excitement of winning the Stanley Cup for the first time in 49 years. I won't however let some writer trash Philly fans for something they didn't do. They may have booed the presentation of the Stanley Cup, but that should be expected after coming so close and going through the emotions of an exciting playoff run. However, as even blackhawk fans who were present can attest to, the fans DID cheer their team. Look up the You Tube videos of the salute they gave to Ian Laperrierre in Game 3 of the Boston series or the ovation given to Boucher. Chicago fans have their share of bozos as do Philly fans, but before commenting on what you've heard find out the facts. The Santa incident is blown out of proportion. Classless is the Chicago Tribune and Adam Burish. Chicago fans, enjoy your victory and prepare to win a few more because that team of yours is for real and built to be a contender for years and your city deserves a great hockey team after years of being given a poor product. As a Flyers fan I'm thrilled Chicago is back on the hockey scene.

  • In reply to AgainstChicago:

    OK.....I've lurked long enough and can't overlook this post.

    The only reason why the east coast seems to have such rabid fans is because the only sports coverage we get on a regular basis comes from ESPN, the Eastern Seaboard Preference Network. Anyone else look at the articles at espn.com during the series. Never was there an article about what the Hawks were doing well, just what the Flyers were doing right or wrong. There is an incredible east-coast bias in coverage that is laughable.

    Also, no.....there is no wine sales at Wrigley Field. Yes you can get multiple kids of beer and Mai Tai's, but no glasses of wine.

    And by the way, Philly doesn't have it's own pizza. You stole the style from NY. Anyone who has ever eaten a Chicago style thin-crust pizza can tell you that the wimpy, soggy crusted stuff you guys consider to be pizza is one step below Tombstone.

  • In reply to twardzala:

    I've had the Chicago style thin-crust pizza. Don't care for it. I don't get the soggy comment, but 1) it was fair since it was in response to nonsense and 2) to each their own.

    But the rest of that post is dead on.

  • In reply to psennett:

    I was at the game. Walking around the city before the game in my Hawks coat caused a coulple smiles, nothing more. Once inside the stadium, an older Flyers fan paid for my friends' drinks and food. Weird, but very nice. The booing was directed at Bettmnan. Sure my friends and I were booed wearing our Hawks gear, but no more than what Hawks fans would have dished out at the UC. In fact, the fans in Philly were engaged the entire game making it a great atmosphere to watch a game in. Sure there were the fans who refused to move at the end of the game forcing us to climb over seats to get down, and sure there was the guy who called my friend an f ing pedaphile, but we expected it and it added to the excitement. The only statement that caused some pause was F the black Fs, but I think it was merely a vulgar play on words as opposed to a racist remark. A lot of Flyers fans came up and shook our hands after the game.

  • In reply to PatrickC:

    THANK YOU Patrick for adding an accurate eye witness account. We were booing Bettman. This was an amazing series and I am honored that both teams played balls-out till the end. (sorry if this is taken as only something a crude Philly fan would say but after trying to find another term to describe it, balls out is all I had) And in regards to our response- even the announcers weren't really sure what had happened. Players kept playing, the linesman was still looking for the puck, and they flash full screen and the Hawks are celebrating! This was a 'have your doc prescribe you a stronger heartburn medication' kind of series, each game win or lose was a reminder of why we love hockey, and even after the biggest Flyers' loss in over a decade we shook your hands and I congratulate your town on your Stanley Cup Blackhawks.
    PS- If the guy that called you a pedophile looked 'frat-y' I would like to extend an extra apology. If so he probably comes from a part of town where boys have diarrhea of the mouth in all aspects of their lives you had to spend 4 hrs watching your team win the cup..just imagine losing and spending most of your adult life trying to date one ;)

  • In reply to PatrickC:

    I think it's safe to say, as we look back through these comments, that my observation is spot-on.

    I ESPECIALLY appreciate the DIRECT hate emails. Nice, Philly.

    Now if you'll excuse me, I've got to go burn my Rocky DVD's.

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    Please see post directly below.....

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    You haven't proven anything, you've just illustrated what an ignorant lowlife you are George. Rocky? Again, how ignorant can one person be. It was a film made in the city...as if no films have ever been made in Chicago? I'm not sure what your point is really. Pretty dumb. Then again, read any of your "blogs" and you'll see that you've got nothing to offer but one pathetic comment after another. To make the accusation that all Philly fans are classless (or Philly people) based upon some boos after a sporting event is simply ignorant. But then, it seems that you Chicago types excel at making ignorant generalizations. And what do you expect? To lob insult after insult at Philly folks and not expect them to take offense? You're a real class A zero.

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    George D,

    I'd like to hear your take on the level of class displayed by Adam Burish with his post-game comments about Pronger and how he "might punch him" if he seems Pronger again and how Pronger was "terrible."

    Is that the type of class Flyer fans should have shown?

    My favorite part about the comment was that it was made after game 6, a game that Burish spent in the locker room as a healthy scratch. Burish felt the need to put his uni and skate out on the ice after the game to celebrate, do interviews and make it seem for photographs like he took part in the victory. He was so bad in games 1-3 Quennville didn't even let him suit for games 3-6, but he felt qualified to critique future Hall of Famer Chris Pronger's "terrible" play.

    Is that class? I'm sure some will say Pronger deserves it because he stole the Blackhawks' puck and didn't give it back (sounds like the whine of a school boy: "mommy, he stole my ball"), but isn't one of the attributes of true class not sinking to another's less admirable level?

  • In reply to emmitbrown2:

    Pronger has some talent, but he's a hacker. If he threw as many bodychecks as he does crosschecks, he'd own the Norris Trophy.

  • In reply to emmitbrown2:

    The morning after a 49 year winless streak is broken the best you can come up with for an article is "Flyers fans are mean, they yell booooooo." You obviously were not at the game either because the Flyers skated off to the "Let's Go Flyers" chant and the building was still at least 95% capacity... Look I get your schtick, you wrote this article knowing full well guys like myself would read it and get angry but come on pal these silly little posts are never going to get you anywhere...

  • In reply to emmitbrown2:

    This must be getting posted on Philly.com or something, but let's not mistake this for an article on the Chicago Tribune. It's a blog post by some guy.

  • In reply to emmitbrown2:

    Is the viewer count on the right correct. 124 people have viewed this article? Wow, I could write an article on a piece of paper, leave it in the taco bell bathroom stall and get more readers.

  • In reply to Booth137:

    LMAO!

  • In reply to ruxpin:

    Clearly you don't understand how the "heat index" works. The number "124" simply means that's how many people are viewing it in that exact moment you are. Right now, as I'm posting this...the number is at 145. This post alone has likely generated upwards of 10k views in the past day and a half. I hardly think that many individuals wipe their ass in the same Taco Bell bathroom on any given day. Unless, of course, that's your "restaurant of choice" over in Philly.

  • In reply to emmitbrown2:

    you scumbag Chicago fans have done nothing but pis and moan about philly as you win you have the cup how about showing the littlest bit of class. You have your writers write about philly fans telling hawk fans to sit down during the game and its totally unacceptable behavior, your TV reporter walks around philly trying to entrap fans into a fight which never worked except for her playing up the a fan hit her, you put pronger on your paper with a skirt on, then you have Adam Borish celebrating on the ice talking crap about pronger who are the classless ones. you had the better team the flyers got by on heart why would act like we who did nothng throught the series that would cause a stir are the ones causing the problems. We have our idiots but i think your might be worse first base coach attacked during a game, dumping beers on players while making a catch, bartman, your list goes on so don't act innocent. Also detroit was way worse to pittsburgh last year when they won it in detroit.

  • In reply to MattyG:

    Sigh....generalize much?

  • In reply to bearsgal77:

    isnt what this article and the other things i mentioned are doing and no its not right

  • In reply to bearsgal77:

    What an irresponsible, classless, lazy article. And it's not even close to true. You don't have thoughts of your own because you either didn't see the game or couldn't comprehend it, so you basically steal a cookie cutter article from elsewhere, alter some specifics to make it look like it was actually about last night, and post it. It's not only lazy, it's borderline professionally unethical.

    Chicago fans deserve better. They've waited 49 years for a Cup, suffered through years of an utterly poor management, came back when the team showed it cared, supported that team, and now, after 49 years of waiting, they finally have the Cup. At that historic moment, do you write about some inspirational thing about the team, it's fans or the city? No. You just make up stuff about the team you just beat and rob your readership of a chance to bask in the moment. You really should not be allowed to write. You stink at it.

    Congrats to the Hawks and to their fans. You deserved every bit of it. Enjoy it, because as both fan bases know, you never know when they'll be a next one.

  • In reply to MattyG:

    Look, no one could have expected Flyers fans to be jumping up and down at our winning on their ice. It's in poor taste for anyone to have booed Toews, but whatever, it happens, and you know it would have happened in Chi-town had the tables been turned. Philly's got their horrible fans, so have we. Ignore them, enjoy the win. This kind of piece just the Hawks, Hawks fans and the city of Chicago look pathetic and petty. Just give the Flyers credit for their tough fight and then enjoy the win! Go Hawks!!!!

  • In reply to bearsgal77:

    Exactly right great series by both teams.. congrats to the hawks they were the better team. This stupid sniping by the winning city is what we should be doing here in philly, but all the articles in the papers and blogs talk about the great ride the flyers gave us and what terrific hockey it was.

  • In reply to bearsgal77:

    I obviously don't know you, but you have a lot of class. Seriously.

    Enjoy the parade. Hope it's the first of several. You have a fun team to watch.

  • In reply to bearsgal77:

    "The "Lets Go Flyers" chant didn't start until AFTER Toews accepted his Conn Smythe and the Hawks' Stanley Cup."

    My god, get your facts straight. There was a "Let's go Flyers" chant before they even rolled the trophies out.

    Seriously, you are as poor as a writer as they come. Here is my favorite part of your article:

    "In a city who's team was fortunate enough to outlast the likes of vastly superior teams"

    What a joke this article is. It actually pains me to reply to squid such as yourself but I am able to deal with it since I have a set which you clearly lack.

    Another whiney bandwagoner who instead of writing about his team winning the Cup complains about the way his team was treated by opposing fans. You need to get laid.

  • In reply to SteveK15:

    have you seen his photo? Not a chance of that happening.

  • In reply to emmitbrown2:

    I could just punch Burish for making that comment....not the kind of press we need.

  • In reply to bearsgal77:

    Burish really made the team look bad with those comments, I hope there is some discipline to follow (although I guess you can't bench a guy that doesn't dress). Pronger's response was classic "Pronger", something along the lines of "he'll punch me? I'll be playing in the minors next year?"

    Adding to that, not sure of anybody caught this one: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2010/06/11/pronger_slur_photograph

    Anyway, congrats to chicago for a great series and the Cup. Although I've developed a hatred for most Chicago fans over the series, there are certainly some that are not bandwagon jumpers with regards to both their team and the anti-philly sentiment spewed by this hack writer. A cliche shot at fans after the end of the series only displays your pathetic attempt to stay relevant due to your lack of any real knowledge of the sport.

    BTW, how many appearances in an arena with knowledgeable hockey fans would not have resulted in bettman being booed? Bettman is to the NHL what Bill Wirtz was to the blackhawks. Unf. having the finals played in such strong hockey cities was a bettman wet-dream when it came to ratings (relative, of course).

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    Do you truly believe the Chicago fans would have cheered the Flyers winning the cup on Chicago ice in game 7 if that would have happened? And your comment "In a city who's team was fortunate enough to outlast the likes of vastly superior teams" is just off based and spiteful. Which teams (plural) were vastly superior?

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    I love that roughly 70 percent of the comments here are Flyers fans who are red-faced, frothing-mouthed angrily yelling in some pathetic attempt to defend the honor of their city. Thanks for proving the point made by the writer!

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    As a Flyers fan stated earlier, you MUST have been watching a different game. We applauded our team and chanted for our team after we lost and before they left the ice. I could not have been more happy for Patrick Kane after the Hawks won. I was standing at the entrance where the Blachawk family members came out onto the ice, and the excitement that showed on these young players' faces was worth the price of my ticket. This was the best sporting event I ever attended, and I am a true Flyers fan. I didnt boo, I didnt throw anything, and I am happy for the Blackhawks organization. I congratulated every Blackhawk fan I saw in the stands. The Blackhawks are a classy organization and it showed. Please dont trash my city and ALL of the fans in attendance last night because it isnt just. We are avid, passionate fans of all our sports teams. These things happen all over the league but are magnified in Philly. Maybe you should start calling it like it is, and not how you would like it to be. From reading your trash, youre a disgrace to your paper. And although I have great respect for the Blachawks organization, I cant say the same for you and your paper and YOUR classlessness!!!!

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    Our illustrious writer stereotyped an entire block of sports fans, AND some of the folks in Chicago agree that he didn't get the story right, including some Chicagoans who were at the game. That's not "spot on".

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    Honestly, why do we in Chicago care how they reacted in Philly? We have the Cup, we're the better team, we're the greater city, and arguing back and forth with some bitter sore losers won't change anything. I for one plan to Party like it's 1961 tomorrow during and long after the parade--Salut!, Hawks!

  • In reply to ken88:

    Good post. Enjoy the heck out of the day tomorrow. The players and their fans deserve it.

  • In reply to ruxpin:

    Except for the greater city thing. Nice city, but it has way too much to clean up to be beating it's chest about "greater" in comparison to just about any city.
    Regardless, enjoy the experience tomorrow.

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    In reply to ken88:

    "We're the greater city" hahahahah. You're bigger so now you're 'greater.' Take a history lesson you fool, Chicago wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Philly's far more important history.

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    George, I have a couple issues with your article, I was born and raised in Chicago and moved to the Philadelphia area when I was 11 so I do believe both cities are great sports towns. I was at the game last night supporting the Flyers. At the end of the game for one everyone was in shock because of they way the game was finished, OT, no red light, review, etc. Once we realized what happened the fans cheered on the Flyers for a great run and the Black Hawks a true worthy champion. As for booing of course we are going to boo the commissioner and we are going to boo Towes because we are still are hoping Pronger might even still win it. Once the Stanley Cup came out we cheered individual players we liked and booed the villians like any other well educated city would. One last very important item, that picture you are using in your article is a photo of myself from The Flyers Capitals series 4 years ago. I don't like being part of poor journalism as yourself and would like to have given you some sort of permission to use my picture.

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    After reading all these comments let me just say this. If the Blackhawks and Flyers players were to read some of the things that have been said here they would think many of you (on both sides of the fence) are classless from how you are reacting to all this. The players would be booing all of you for acting like a bunch of whining kids.

    Now I admit I'm a hawks fan and I did notice the booing. But, quite honestly it doesn't bother me. I also noticed quite a few fans sticking around to watch the ceremonies. I was actually surprised by how many stayed. If you really think about it, with all the new hawks fans that would have been at the game if there was a game 7, I would be really surprised if there weren't boos if the hawks lost. With all the expectations of the hawks and to loose on our home ice, I just really think the boos would have rang out.

    I mean, who wants to watch the winning team parade around and celebrate on your home ice after beating your team anyway? If philli fans were a bit out of line with booing, I think it's understandable. Its sports...competition. Now everyone quit crying about it, because it wasn't that big of a deal really.

  • In reply to chicagojoe:

    Brilliant post.

    Enjoy your team's win. That was the most entertaining style of hockey I've seen in awhile. Your players played their hearts out and Q did an awesome job of coaching. You folks in Chicago have a lot to be proud of.

  • In reply to chicagojoe:

    You can question many things but don't ever question the loyalty and passion of the Flyers faithful. From the overwhemling response to your lame article I suspect you now know what I mean. Your team won it. Enjoy it. Just remember while the Blackhawks were wandering in some abyss the Flyers were making runs at the Cup for 14 of the last 15 seasons. And we'll do it again next year.

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    George....please just shut up before you stick your foot even further down your throat. Please don't speak for the rest of us. We'd like to enjoy our victory graciously.

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    There must be something wrong with my TV reception. I heard raucous "Let's Go Flyers" chants after the game last night. I hate when the local station embellishes the sound like that. You think that's bad...one time I was watching a Phillies game from Chicago and they photoshopped the feed to show a Chicago fan pouring a beer on Shane Victorino's head! And just the other day, they sent a reporter out to the streets of Philadelphia masquerading as a Chicago reporter and tried to stir up trouble with the locals by dissing them and calling them classless. So what happened? The locals laughed it off and invited her to work the grille at a local cheese steak shop. I think they must have figured out she was a local. I mean, Chicago fans are the epitome of class, right? Note to self...don't spend any money in Chicago Crossroads weekend.

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    This is really the best subject you can write about after winning the Cup for the first time in 49 years? That's really, really sad that your focus is on us.

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    Leave it to a Chicagoan to burn media. No more disco records left I take it?

    Observation is spot on. Baloney. You couldn't observe rain if you stood in it. You say stuff that is absurdly inaccurate and hateful and people call you on it and then use the response to say "see."

    You're an utter fraud and a liar. And a lousy sport to boot...except I doubt you're actually a sports fan.

  • In reply to PatrickC:

    I sent this as an email in response to Dan McNeil's Article, "Philadelphia, the mother of all places most foul" and while my math is related to his specific 3 1/2 hrs spent "in and around section 120 at the packed Wachovia Center," but I think the sentiment remains....and I would like to reiterate that the Santa Claus incident happened in 1968 so unless you were alive and able to talk about it without google.com giving you the details...enough already.
    Dear Mr. McNeil,
    I apologize that your experience at the Flyers' game was not as pleasant as you would've hoped. As a Philadelphian I have witnessed first-hand how some fans of our beloved sports teams can behave, and as you have written it is not always pleasant. My issue with your article is that you had a 3 1/2 hour unpleasant encounter in one building in Philadelphia and based on that you are telling countless readers to not come here. Your experience "in and around section 120 at the packed Wachovia Center" and your subsequent article describes ALL PHILADELPHIANS as " loutish, abrasive and disgusting." (I figure there were a little over 500 people in your section, but I'll throw in an additional 500 people who were in and around your section/the bathroom- so for arguments sake I'll say your experience involved an estimated 1,000 Flyers' fans.) This article was based on your experience with 5.13% of the 19,500 possible spectators at this event not to mention that you are basing your entire opinion of Philadelphia , assuming these fans were in fact from Philadelphia, on the "1,000" people your experience includes? You are aware that Philadelphia sports fans include fans traveling from South Jersey and Delaware, not to mention the countless suburbs that surround the actual city of Philadelphia. Did you know that your experience and the 1,000 "Philadelphians" you encountered comes to 0.0691% of Philadelphia's estimated population?
    I had the pleasure of visiting Chicago the past January and raved to everyone about your beautiful city. Your article had me reflect on my trip. In the 3 DAYS I spent there I was probably in the company of 200 Chicago natives and during my visit I encountered a family of 7 (3 adults and 3 children under 10) on your public transportation system using language so foul that I moved to a different car on the train, yet I failed to lump the remaining citizens of Chicago or the city itself into the " loutish, abrasive and disgusting" category because as a child I was taught that generalizations and stereo-types keep people from experiences that allow them to think openly, experience life, and forge their own beliefs and opinions. Your article is another reason people think of Philadelphia in the light you painted it in and I believe you owe the remaining 99.9309% of us an apology.

    PS- the friends I visited in January were booed and taunted on their way home from watching the game in your fair city...does that make the ENTIRE city of Chicago classless too??
    CONGRATS HAWKS FANS!!!

  • In reply to psennett:

    No one heard the boos except for you and a couple of morons on this cite...including the imbecile who wrote the article. Seriously. ALL neutral media outlets...NBC, TSN, CBC...commented how respectful Philly fans were.
    Granted, it was in a tone that indicated it was totally unexpected, but nonetheless, the neutral coverage all made the comment.
    So get off your "all over the planet crap."
    Seriously, you and George are some of the poorest sports I've seen. It's embarrassing that you people even call yourselves hockey fans.

    If you really were hockey fans, you'd be celebrating your win instead of kicking a bunch of heartbroken people.

  • In reply to psennett:

    "We refuse to pay our hard-earned money to support a team that is being run like the corner deli, cash on the counter, refuses to pay players - but we should all go there and cheer." -CLASSIC FAIR WEATHER MINDSET.

  • In reply to psennett:

    The fans chanted for the players while they were out on the ice when they knew it was for them. They weren't going to cheer for anything Bettman tried to "buttkiss" out of them. The players were already in the locker room by that point.

  • In reply to Longshanks:

    MORE CAPS. IT LOOKS SO MANLY!

  • In reply to psennett:

    sAM: dAD, mOM HID THE cAPS lOCK KEY.

  • In reply to psennett:

    "Worst fans in hockey." How original. Another bandwagoner you are. Give me a break. If Philly won the cup in Chicago, I'm sure you would be cheering the Flyers. Please. Especially after the classless picture of Pronger by your beloved paper.

  • In reply to CAPhillyFan:

    I would cheer the Stanley Cup, and admit that the guy who won MVP was among the best in the world and give polite applause. But apparently manners aren't taught in Pennsylvania, eh?

    Don't blame me for what prints in a newspaper that I don't buy. If what prints in a newspaper bothers you, ignore it.

  • In reply to psennett:

    Toews is a great player and will only get better. But really, he wasn't even the best player on the Hawks this post season.
    Keith not getting it is a travesty.

    And you seem to want things both ways. You don't want to be blamed for what the newspaper writes, but it's okay to blame Flyer fans for some idiots throwing snowballs forty years ago.

    Why does no one bring up disco records EVERY time Chicago is mentioned? That wasn't even as long ago. And far more stupid.

    answer: because it's not relevant. Neither is the Santa Claus thing.

    Neither is this entire article or anything you've written.

  • In reply to psennett:

    Yeah, George, you're a blogger. LOL. Not even good enough to be a columnist or a real reporter. A blogger that's like being the assistant to the assistant of the manager at the movie theater......LMFAO. Not to mention that you kind of resemble Boy George.

  • In reply to psennett:

    Wow ... more intelligence... do you spend much time in a hockey arena ... or in your house watching on pay per view ? Cause your statement is moot .... All hockey venues have fans that BOOO .... I am astounded at the need for irrelevant talk on this Chicago website .... it appears the Hockey fans who where hiding for whatever reason after more than 10 years of I guess resting, to then hire a bunch of Canadians to bring the Cup to them and ignite controversy and disgust with there constant arrogant comments, classless act's, it is rather curious how there is such a rush to come to the Chicago Hockey Franchise's defence, considering the antics of it's emplyees... not sure I would want to hold my self up in a very proud way that's for sure!!

  • In reply to psennett:

    You're utterly clueless. You win the cup and you have nothing better to do than discuss whether someone lost correctly. How about you ask your mom if you can leave her basement and go celebrate?
    Philly threw NOTHING on the ice, ala Washington. They burned no buses and looted NOTHING, a la Montreal. There was no police riots. We didn't go shoot a bunch of high school kids. We booed Bettman and Hossa. Both with cause. A couple people dealt with their immense feelings of loss by booing. Others cheered. It was no different than Detroit or Pittsburgh the last two years.

    How about actually BE a Black Hawks fan and go celebrate before mommy tells you it's bed time.

  • In reply to psennett:

    Sam: C'mon, Dad. Let's go to the parade and see some boobies.

  • Believe me, I know that some Philly fans are complete drunken idiots, but I do believe every city has a few. Because a couple have done some memorable things, the rest of us suffer. Oh, and Eagles fans pelted Santa with snowballs...they didn't just "Boo" him. :D The booers at the cup game last night may have had their beer voices on, but I saw many classy people standing and applauding.

  • In reply to SMDN3:

    Really dude? The Santa incident took place on December 15, 1968 and you're still talking about it?

  • In reply to Longshanks:

    Not like Shane Victorino got a beer dumped on him last year while trying to catch a fly ball..............oh wait.......

  • In reply to Longshanks:

    Everyone boos Gary Bettman. If you don't then you don't care about the game.

  • In reply to Longshanks:

    Ha! Absolutely true. Here's a very articulate take on why Bettman presenting the Cup is so very bad for hockey. http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/34049-Screen-Shots-Gary-Bettman-shouldnt-present-the-Stanley-Cup.html

  • In reply to Longshanks:

    Congrats to the Blackhawks. Very impressive. They certainly deserve a better fan base. Just checked NHL attendance for the past 5 years. Pathetic.

  • In reply to PhlyersPhan:

    I'm a Dolphins fan who lives in Illinois and can not afford to go to Miami to see a home game.....does that mean I'm not a real fan? It's easier for me (and waaaay cheaper) to go watch the Hawks play in St. Louis.....does that mean I'm not a real fan cause I don't go to the UC? I've never even been to a Bulls game does that mean I'm not a real fan since I only watch/listen to the games? Give the attendance thing a rest, everyone knows why people weren't going to the games and why there was such a low fan base...I mean, if I were about 3 years younger I would have never been able to see a home blackhawks game on tv when I was old enough to actually enjoy it and as I mentioned, I live a ways away from Chicago and could not afford to or was not old enough to even drive to go to a game so what was I supposed to do? Try keeping up with your flyers by reading the newspaper, the internet, and getting to see a handful of road games on tv each year.

  • In reply to Longshanks:

    What a joke this Team Chicago is .... it takes 50 some years for them to win a Stanley Cup, suddenly it is a respectable to crap on the apponent you just eliminated ... you want to Yell out disgust ..... LOOK IN THE MIRROR CHICAGO ....... You hold high abobe your heads that somehow all of hockey should now bow before you because you've one a Cup ... the only one in 50 years ... its time Chicago show some of it's own class, clamp the big mouth shut ... show some real class at winning, by respecting there opponents, Adam Burrish, Andrew Ladd, Ben Eager, Jonathan Toews, Dustin Byfuglien...... these men show a lack of class and lack of sportsmanship, by trash talking there fellow NHL players. You wanna talk disgust .... look in your own back yard and in the mirror before the impulse to speak... shows some real class Blackhawks, you make the rest of us want to hate you all so much more with out any!

  • In reply to rjchipmunk:

    Yikes. Do they have schools in Philadelphia?

  • In reply to JimmyGreenfield:

    Do they have hair in Chicago?

  • In reply to Longshanks:

    Not on my head, but we have a Stanley Cup in Chicago.

  • In reply to JimmyGreenfield:

    Filled with ignorance... lol..... topped with bearded balding fans ....

  • In reply to rjchipmunk:

    Yes, I'm sure you're laughing today. A sad laugh of the Cup-less, but a laugh nonetheless.

    By the way, mentioning physical attributes in a derogatory way is what racists do.

  • In reply to rjchipmunk:

    Ooooh. Class, rjchipmunk!

    Reading through this makes me so glad I moved away from Philly so many years ago.

  • In reply to RunningJayhawk:

    What?!? We let Awesome Barb get away?

  • In reply to rjchipmunk:

    I appreciate all the Chicago fans on here piping in to support the Flyers fans. You really do have to be here to know that Philly IS a great town, and yes, the fans ENJOY their teams, and give 'em hell when they play badly, etc. But we give credit where it's due, and we were outplayed. Thanks, Patrick C. Perfect perspective to give us - an out of town fan getting a few jabs here and there, but also experiencing the good folks of Philly. There are many of us! And remember folks, it IS supposed to be fun!! What's professional sports without opposing fans trash talking to each other?? I've had a blast trading barbs with my Chicago friends...and next time they're in town, we owe them the best cheesesteaks we can find.

  • In reply to JimmyGreenfield:

    Philadelphia sports fans are, without a doubt, the biggest bunch of whining, jealous, insecure "sports fans" in the country. They are too close geographically to New York, Boston, and even Washington DC to rise above their inbred insecurities, and are incredibly jealous of the success of their "little backwoods", "coal mining" rivals to the west(Pittsburgh) in their very own state. They whine like no others, and are "legends in their own minds". Like the Flyers, they'll never be better than #2

  • In reply to ybob:

    Like I said, the Midwest is just something you fly over to get to the West Coast. Chicago fans are fair weather. Show up when your team is good, but completely ignore them when they're not.

  • In reply to Longshanks:

    Longshanks,
    Your infuriating comment just caused me to create an account to specifically respond to you. I am a native Chicagoan now living on the West Coast. You talk about fair weather fans? Clearly you've never spent time in blase, nonchalant L.A., other than Lakers Finals time. You claim to be so outraged at the allegations made by this article and asserting your own superior manners and class, when your comments reveal nothing but the contrary. Continually deriding the author of the article and then making patently false AND incendiary claims that Chicago fans are fair weather just shows you to be a sore loser and to use your phrasing, "a flat out liar." Why don't you tune your television to ESPN at 8pm ET Sunday night and catch a glimpse of the very real, tangible rivalry between the Sox and Cubs (all Barrett brawls circa 2006 aside). Fair weather fans? Please. Cool out, drown your sorrows in a beer, grow up, and quit making ridiculous claims. I think the Flyers put up a strong fight and their fans showed their disappointment appropriately. I know I'd be feeling the same heavy disappointment if the outcome were different. So cheers to sports fans of the Second City: Go Hawks, Go Bears, Go Fire, Go Bulls, Go Sox, and heck, even Go Cubs (I'm a die hard Southsider). Peace.

  • In reply to cmm527:

    Check the NHL attendance data for both teams over the past 5 years. Hawks fans run and hide when the team is not winning.

  • In reply to PhlyersPhan:

    Check your history on that one man. It wasn't the team it was the management. Fans felt like they weren't wanted. He jacked up the prices and wouldn't televise the home games. After management changed the attendance went up, and it went up right before they started winning, so they came back when they were losing.

  • In reply to Longshanks:

    George, this story is such a go-to column after any sports team has a game in philly. It's just bland and overused. Fans boo in philly, chicago, new york, san jose, miami...they boo EVERYWHERE.

    I was at the game. Barely anyone left after the goal was announced so they could be there to see the Stanley Cup. LETS GO FLYERS was being chanted pre-, during and post-handshake. Gary Bettman always gets booed and i'd say at the most, probably only 5-10% of those in attendance booed when Toews won the Conn Smythe. We were all trying to figure out who would get the trophy because Toews didnt do much this series. We were debating whether it would be Kane, Hossa or Buflin(sp).

    I personally witnessed many Blackhawk fans get congratulatory handshakes from Flyers fans because we experienced what you guys experienced waiting for a championship for so long. Of course there is a vocal minority who drink too much and get aggressive toward opposing fans but please do not call all Flyers fans a classless act. You were clearly not at the game last night. As I walked to my car, i didnt see the many hawks fans in attendance get heckled, the flyers fans were in a stunned silence and every post-game show explained how the talent level and speed of the hawks finally caught up to the flyers.

    Congratulations to the Blackhawks and their fans and have a great time at the parade tomorrow.

    And to the hawks fans reading some of these posts by the people who claim to be "flyers fans", don't base your opinion on the whole fanbase by reading the venom they're spewing at you. Every fanbase has knuckleheads and dimwits.

    Best,
    Steve

  • In reply to auks07:

    well said steve, I 2nd that.

  • In reply to auks07:

    Good post Steve.

  • In reply to auks07:

    Really nice post, Steve.

  • In reply to auks07:

    Yes and many Flyers season ticket holders chanted for the ushers to let the hawks fans into the lower level to celebrate with the team. Every arena has a percentage of jerks. But at the end, the Flyers fans left humble, but smiling and rejoicing over a season and NO one dissed our team after losing or made excuses. Leighton would have been the ultimate scapegoat right? He got a standing ovation at the baseball game tonight. Why not celebrate your win with some class of your own people? If it was my city, I would have started partying right after the game and would still be partying and not on a board whining because of a few "boos". By the way, I have always been a fan of the Hawks since the days of JR and Amonte, the begining of my love for hockey. I've waited for this series my entire hockey life. GREAT series, I'd love to see a re-match next year!

  • In reply to Longshanks:

    Shanks, shouldn't u be back at philly.com defending Polman and Bunch? Hope you're well, my friend.

  • In reply to ybob:

    You may want to check your geographical facts. Coal mining region runs throughout PA, not just to the west. Pathetic that you have to stoop so low. Again, classless Chi fan.

  • In reply to ybob:

    ybob, other than winning this time your team never gets close to being #2, but you do you POS !

  • In reply to ybob:

    What is it that upsets Philadelphia fans so much?I sense such a hateful disposition by so many.Did something happen in the past that triggered this?

  • In reply to ybob:

    Philly has better pizza?!?!?!Did you forget your medication?

  • In reply to ybob:

    listen we can own that we have done our fair share of ridiculous stuff, but on this occasion you guys are the ones stirring the pot and acting like your fans have never had any incidents of alcohol induced insanity. you are not exactly acting like the team that won a spectacular series.

    on the pizza ours isnt better just different can agree on that. that deepdish is some good stuff.

  • In reply to ybob:

    My god I can't believe the animosity from some of you Hawks fans. From the posts on this page you'd think you LOST the series. All the vile remarks about Philly & our fans just show that it is you who are classless, arrogant & immature. Try to enjoy your victory instead of lashing out at Flyers fans. Some of us are hurting today. We gave you a great series. You know you were nervous going into the overtime last night. Who knows it my be another 50 years before you win a cup again. For those of you who are fans of the game & true Hawk fans my heartfelt congratulations, but this venom being spewed from winners is strange to say the least.

  • In reply to ybob:

    Why, Bob?

  • In reply to JimmyGreenfield:

    I understand, completely, the necessity to "boo" Commissioner Bettman. I advise anyone clutching to this excuse as a means to discredit my view to take another look at the post-game ceremonies.

    For those of you unable to review the events:
    Bettman: "The winner of the Conn Smythe... Jonathan Toews."
    Wachovia Center: "Boooooooooooooooo!"

    It's not like Bettman said, "Let's have a nice round of applause for your NHL Commissioner... ME!"

    Next excuse, please...

    As for you, Mr. Boylan, stick to the small leagues. Better yet, move to Philadelphia. You've already got the vocabulary mastered.

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    I can't believe the further outpouring of hatred here. George, you're right regardless of whatever insults people are hurling your way. The Flyers' fans behavior was simply appalling. They should be embarrassed. Booing Bettman is ok. Expected even. And booing Byfuglien I could understand. But to boo Towes, a gold medal and now Stanley Cup winning player is just low.

    You don't have to be happy about losing but you should respect your opponent. The players might hate each other but they respect each other. Hence the post-game hand shakes.

    What about being happy to see one of the most exciting finals in recent memory? It was an epic series that showed the Flyers deserved to be there despite barely making the playoffs. There were a TON of goals scored and the series was a nail-biter to the very end. I mean what more could you ask for? What about cheering for the entertainment value? What about cheering for the fact that both teams fully dedicate themselves, physically and mentally, to achieving a goal. How about cheering for someone like Duncan Keith who won't ever be able to eat corn on the cob again? As much as I dislike Pronger he's a damn good athlete and I applaud him for his efforts.

    The posts here should simply reaffirm your opinion that Philly fans acted like classless losers.

  • In reply to drewkent23:

    Andy, thanks for reminding us of just what a high quality of hockey we got to watch. It was hammer-and-tongs the whole way, and the officials were largely unobtrusive. The way sports should be. Good, clean competition.

  • In reply to psennett:

    My only problem with the refs is that they single-handedly squelched what was absolutely mind-boggling hockey in the first period. I mean end-to-end, fast pace, high emotion hockey. And they killed that with, what was it, 6?, penalties.

    It's not necessarily that the penalties weren't fair. If anything, the only really bogus call was the goalie interference against the Hawks.

    It was still game 6 of a finals after that, with all the emotion that goes with it. It's just that I thought the penalties just brought the thing down a few notches in the first.

  • In reply to drewkent23:

    One must remove one's head from the Sand dune in order to clearly see the light, passing your statement off ast something relevant is humorous at best ... Sports are just that sports, not everyone is walks away happy, dont talk the talk about class when Chicago is re-nowned for their amazing lack of self discipline, and yet bock at others who dont ooze it from each breath... Classless, what about Chicago's Adam Burrish, or rather Ben Eager, or Jonathan Toews, Dustin Bufyglien, to name a few of the classless Chicago players who did ... what nothing to disrespest there fellow NHL players ... stop the Whining Chicago ... you won the Cup ... and did so without any class whatso ever, I wonder if piss testing is allowed or should be allowed to be immediately forthcoming after a win such like this, maybe that should be the real focus, then we can talk about classy and classless antics!

  • In reply to drewkent23:

    Andy, have you ever noticed that sweeping blanket statements are never accurate? This is a classic example Andy.
    Yes, SOME fans are classless. Every city has them Andy. Next year, when we meet again, I'll remember to bring a sign that says to cheer Duncan Keith's inability to eat corn on the cob, ok? Will we be cool then Andy-boy?
    Seriously Andy, get over yourself.

  • In reply to drewkent23:

    You said it best, Steve. Last night was NOT an example of those minority Philly knuckleheads and dimwits in action...not by a long shot. Great series, great games, good times.

  • In reply to drewkent23:

    Andy-Kid - I created an account just to respond to your comments as well as voice my disappointment that our society continues to make stereotypical generalizations as opposed to understanding the a few bad apples does not spoil the entire bushel.

    To respond directly to your comment about the respect that the players have for each other, I will have to blatantly disagree that Adam Burish - one of your beloved Blackhawks - has absolutely no respect. He actually had the audacity to say that Pronger is an idiot and that he wants to punch him in the face (http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/video---adam-burish-chris-pronger-is-the-biggest-idiot-in-the-league.php). To have a player that doesn't score more than 9 points a season (who was a healthy scratch for the last three games in the Cup Final and had to actually put on his equipment to on the ice to celebrate after the fact) say that a future Hall of Famer is an idiot is absolutely preposterous.

    I congratulate the Blackhawks and am very proud of my Flyers, but don't sit there and judge all Flyers fans without knowing every single one out there. There are plenty of ignorant Blackhawk players and fans - just look at all the rude remarks that many Blackhawks fans left on the Flyers Facebook page to see how classless some of your fans are.

  • In reply to drewkent23:

    You're an idiot.
    You know full well that either team's fan base, the real fans, given how long they have waited and how close this was, would not have been "cheering for the entertainment value."

    But the Flyers fans actually DID. They went on for several moments after the Hawks won with "Let's Go Flyers." That's cheering the entertainment value. (actually, the nature of the winning goal kind of just had everyone naturally stunned...and a little confused since most didn't quite understand a goal had even been scored)

    I'm wondering if you're actually a hockey fan. You obviously have no understanding whatsoever for emotional investment.

    As for the classless...even the NBC broadcasters noted how respectful the Philly fans were. Given the fact that one was Emerick and one was Edzo (neither of whom LIKE the Flyers, for different reasons) I'll take their "respectful crowd" over the fiction you and the bozo who wrote this article want to spew.

  • In reply to drewkent23:

    Andy, Did you even know that the Blackhawks played in 2007, or were u like every other bandwagon jumper in Chicago. If you don't support them when they're down, YOU AIN'T A FAN - Regardless of what your Mommy tells you. If my team had won the cup, reacting to the opposition fan base would be the last thing on my mind.

  • In reply to drewkent23:

    They didn't get to cheer for Duncan Keith because he didn't get MVP like he should have. The did cheer for him when he had the cup. At least the section I was in did.

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    Way to represent...w/no class. Nice.

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    Ever been to a Canadian Arena.... when an American NHL team plays a Canadian NHL team plays ... Trust in this statement "It's Just SPORTS ... get over it already", to feed this garbage that Philly is the only place in the world that boo's the winning visiting team .... is nonsense, senseless, without merit. A final note, even Canadian NHL fans loath, & despise Gary Betteman, most feel the NHL playoffs is a fix anyways, with American teams winning to fill Arena's from sagging interest, ironically filling their teams with Canadian talent, to keep the Cup in the states. Take a good look at Phoenix .... kinda says it all doesn't it ... how much medling Bettman has in things, Canadians see / write about it in local papers regularly .... people boo at sporting events when there team looses, time for Chicago-nians and the Hawks franchise to stop whining like pampered little babies ... or rather suck it up princess's, not everyone is happy for you!

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    To call the Flyers fans classless is a actually a compliment to an otherwise obnoxious, despicable, moronic, and disrespectful bunch of whining, puking, end of the line bottom dwellers. As a relocated Pittsburgh Penguins fan, I say congrats to the 'Hawks...as for the Flyers, they are the Pens #1 rival and it couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of jerks ! We still remember the Kasparitis knockout on Eric Lindross...LET'S GO PENS !

  • In reply to johnamcv:

    Yeah. And my tax money is paying for your lousy building in your lousy city of Pissburgh. I was just in Pissburgh last week. Yinze can see what years of having offspring with your siblings will do to a population.

  • In reply to johnamcv:

    Marian Hossa is still trying to rid himself of that Pittsburgh smell.

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    Penguins fans are just as bad as Blackhawks fans. Remember when they won just 100 games over 5 seasons? Nobody even went to the games. It was likt the city even forgot they had a hockey team. That wasn't that long ago. Now everyone has a Crosby jersey and everyone's a fan. LOL. You can make excuses for why you didn't support the team but let's face it, your fair weather. A fan when they're good, don't know they exist when they're bad.

  • In reply to Longshanks:

    obviously you have no real knowledge of Pens fans and the love affair they have with the team...extremely knowledgeable and loyal...win, lose, or other...do your homework mr. longshanks...GO PENS !

  • In reply to johnamcv:

    Nope. You're wrong. The entire league laughs at Caps and Pens fans. All twelve of them.

    You're so loyal that the league had to intervene to keep the Pins from moving and had to blackmail the state into helping pay for the only building in Pissburg without soot all over it.

    Yinze. What is the etymology of a yinze?

  • In reply to Longshanks:

    Holy smokes, this has a lot of comments.

    Let me say, as one of the few Hawks fans who spent time in Philly over the last week (including the game last night, which you can read about here (plug) http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/straight_to_lapointe/2010/06/witnessing-the-blackhawks-win-the-stanley-cup-photos.html) I have to say that I wasn't really surprised by them booing us winning the Cup. I have a hard time believing there wouldn't have been some boos if the Flyers took it in Game 7 in Chicago.

    My interactions with the Flyers fans were all over the board. I was threatened on multiple occasions and walked away unscathed. However, there were a TON of very stupid Hawks who egged on the Flyers fans while I kept a lower profile. I actually ended up making friends with the Flyers fans around me, even after they all ripped me at first. They're very good hockey fans, dare I say better than Hawks fans in general. The ones I talked to say they had tremendous respect for Kane, Toews, and Keith and had a hard time rooting against them. The guy next to me at the beginning of overtime said he couldn't even be mad if the Hawks won if Kane scored the winner because he liked how he played so much. Flyers fans are more talk than actual threat, but that didn't stop me from being terrified my entire time there.

    When the Hawks won the Cup, some idiot Hawks fans around me down by the bench started a "Detroit sucks" chant, which you can clearly hear in this video (in which you can also see me get sprayed with champagne)http://abclocal.go.com/wls/video?id=7489096

    I found this to be just as douchey as the Flyers fans booing when the Hawks won. The Flyers fans only booed for a short period of time before they pretty much all left (not until after wildly cheering their own team off the ice).

    Look, they weren't happy to lose, I don't think you can expect cheers. I don't think the Hawks or myself really cared that much, we were all just overjoyed at the time.

  • In reply to scottbolohan:

    good post

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    Here's an excuse: You're a liar and a fraud.

    Like that one? Of course there were a couple boos. It's the first time that any team has won the cup on philly ice since 1976. But the boos were few compared to the cheers.

    Get a grip. How about you write something about what a great game the Hawks played? Write about how the team survived the onslaught of the first few minutes of OT, regrouped, and went and won. How about write a story of the celebration in Chicago. It's not like Chicago gets to do that that much (not a swipe at Chicago. They get to do it more than Philly. Just saying IT'S SPECIAL AND DOESN'T HAPPEN OFTEN.)

    But no, clueless classless George flushes that opportunity because in reality he is a lousy writer and a lousy person. Instead, he kicks the fan base trying to swallow the loss.

    You should quit writing and do something you're good at. You've got the "full of crap" down, so I'd suggest politics.

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    "Bettman: "The winner of the Conn Smythe... Jonathan Toews."
    Wachovia Center: "Boooooooooooooooo!""

    Maybe that's because Toews had 3 assists and was a -5 in the finals, and Briere was 1pt (12 pts +5 this series) away from tying Gretzky's playoff record. Just saying.

  • In reply to mscap:

    maybe if you knew what the Conn Smythe trophy was ACTUALLY awarded for you would have some credibility. Since you obviously don't know, your comment is irrelevant. And to mention Briere and Gretzky in the same sentence is just dumb.

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    Leave a comment...

  • In reply to JimmyGreenfield:

    George D are you serious?? So they booed get over it! We are hard core we know our hockey so we booed because we were pissed. You think you would cheer in that situation you gotta be kidding me. Though hawks fans are complete morons when it comes to hockey so i would be surprised if you did cheer if the flyers won. get over yourselves you won the cup celebrate instead of writing articles about flyers fans you moron.

  • In reply to PhillyPhan:

    I'm a long time Flyer fan, but while I think George D deserves the piling on, I do have to say that the assertion that "hawks fans are complete morons when it comes to hockey" is almost as bad as Georgie boy's article.

    Hawks fans, many of them, have been at this longer than the Flyers have even existed. I have Hawk fan friends. They aren't Capitals' fans or Leafs' fans. The diehards know hockey.

    I don't think the die hards in Chicago, because they ARE good hockey fans, would have behaved any differently than those in Philly. It's a loss, and we all handle loss differently...especially when it comes so suddenly. Some boo. Others cheer. But just as in Philly, I'm sure the cheers would have outweighed the boos had the Hawks lost.

    Enjoy your team and the Cups Hawks fans. Well deserved.

  • In reply to JimmyGreenfield:

    Goerge D...you are an IDIOT...shut up before you make a complete fool of yourself!!!

  • In reply to ttk5:

    Very articulate response. You were there booing, weren't you. Probably pretty typical Flyers fan. Oh, and MORE CAPITAL LETTERS! IT MAKES YOU LOOK SO FORCEFUL!

  • In reply to psennett:

    Wow ... SamsDad.... this is brilliance you need some focus on you do you ... not happy about something .... looking for something or someone to .. what ... kiss your prissy feet .... give it a rest with your lack of intelligent response's / reply's, the spotlight is shining on your ignorance only!

  • In reply to rjchipmunk:

    Your response is absolutely unintelligible. I get the impression that you are a moron; can you convince me otherwise?

  • In reply to psennett:

    Sam, tell your Dad to go the parade. Maybe he'll find a pretend Mom.

  • In reply to ttk5:

    That ship has already sailed. As for no bad blood...Chris Pronger in a dress?? Please. The Blackhawks fans, and their press, will soon understand why Philadelphia fans despise Gary Bettman. Check out the RFAs they have come July 1st, and know that they will be in a world of salary cap hurt soon. I am sorry to the poster who mentioned all your owner did to hurt your fan base, that is horrible. I know I, during my years as a broke college student, had to listen to many a Flyers game on AM radio because I couldn't afford the cable channel that had been sold the rights. But I digress...it is easy to say that you would have cheered the Flyers if they had won the cup in your home stadium, because it did not happen. I really hope it does next year, because I will be right back here, checking how the Hawks fans behaved. If the Flyers boards on Facebook are any indication of Blackhawk's fans behavior, I will be asking for an apology. Congratulations to the true fans of the Chicago Blackhawks.

  • In reply to JimmyGreenfield:

    Fingers can easily move faster than ones thinking, as your statement clearly shows .....

  • In reply to JimmyGreenfield:

    Gee, I haven't used the term "yikes" since grade school. You tell me Mr. Sub-Intelligent.

  • In reply to rjchipmunk:

    As if Chicago fans would be cheering for the noble effort of both teams if it happened on their ice. Maybe Chicago...ians aren't as passionate about their sports as Philadelphians if this is such a shock to the people of Chicago. Even if all these "horrible atrocities" happened, Chicago won. Call it sour grapes and move on with your Stanley Cup victory. Don't take the high horse out of the stadium about how your fans would behave so much better.

    As for classlessness, you think it's classy to "leak" the parade route and put up a mural before it's over?

    And as for Bettman and his little speech, you'll forgive us if we don't applaud the chair of a league that portrayed the series as a runaway for the Blackhawks when every game with the exception of #5 was within a point. When the Flyers lose, it's a rout. When the Flyers win, it's a fluke. The Stanley Cup series was not a fluke.

    You're a reporter. You wrote this today. Unlike the Philadelphia fans, caught up in the immediacy, you have no excuse for your soreness and if we should be ashamed, you should be doubly so.

  • In reply to kdolo:

    Well said. Tough trying to talk common sense into these fans eh? To be fair, there are some level-headed fans on this forum however few.

  • In reply to rjchipmunk:

    I wasn't at the game, but was live blogging it on my site here at CN. I assume, George, that you don't understand the relationship that has developed between hockey fans and Commissioner Bettman.

    That would have happened in Chicago too.

    Would that have meant that Chicago fans were classless bores?

    So you got a lot of hits and a lot of comments. I'm underwhelmed. There is a simple word for people like you who don't understand the game and write shit like this: HOMER. Goodbye.

  • In reply to PatrickBoylan:

    Ooh, a live blogger. You must be sooooo proud. The fact is, Chicago fans would have booed Bettman for a minute, then there would have been quiet applause for the VIP announcement, louder applause for the Cup, and then the sounds of people streaming out, disappointed. You are a partisan hack, and if this is your knowledge of hockey in general and Chicago in particular, good luck with your very successful liveblogging career.

  • In reply to psennett:

    Really? Really? That's hilarious.
    Genuinely speaking, congratulations to the Blackhawks for winning the Cup. Flyers gave them a good run and it wasn't as easy as everyone said it was going to be.

  • In reply to psennett:

    Really? Really? Yeah, I'm sure when Chris Pronger won Conn Smythe there would have been some nice applause by the Chicago crowd. Not a single "Chrissy is gay" chant or anything. Yea, Chicago REALLY demonstrated their classiness this series. And for your "the fact is" .. Well SamsDad... the "fact is" you are one person. You maybe would have done that, but you can not speak for an entire fan base.

  • In reply to psennett:

    I guess you missed the "Let's go Flyers" chant that followed shortly after the announcement of the winning goal. And why would we cheer for another team winning the championship in our house? All that has come from the Stanley Cup is a bunch of Chicago writers whining about how "classless" Philadelphia fans are instead of your team winning a championship after years of being utter garbage. Fuck your team, Fuck your face. You'll never find more passionate fans than in Philadelphia.

  • In reply to psennett:

    Dear pot, would you also like to be the kettle? You call Philly classless, but fail to realize Chicago's own classless acts. Adam Burish disparages Pronger AFTER winning the cup. Sure, most everybody dislikes Chris Pronger, but any intelligent hockey fan knows that he is a force on the ice. How is a Hart, Norris, and cup winner "terrible" mr. Burish?? Also, Chicago fans chant "Detroit sucks" after WINNING the Stanley Cup. Very classy Chicago. You have won the f-ing cup. Instead of enjoying it to the fullest, you keep one eye on it and the other on Detroit? I sense some envy and fear. Congrats, you've now won as many cups in your history as Detroit has won in the last 13 years. Enjoy it, it won't happen next season. Once you demote Huet, trade Versteeg and Buff, pay out your bonuses from winning the cup, you have 5 mil to re-sign roughly 8-9 players. Hawkeytown...ha...keep on pace for another 20 years and maybe Detroit will lease the name to you. Take a tip form Armando Galarraga and conduct yourselves with class. Seriously though, Congrats and enjoy.

  • In reply to potandkettle:

    I don't think most Hawks fans were very cool with what Burish said.....especially since he didn't play in the last 3 games because he kind of sucked....but at the same time Pronger wasn't real classy with the puck thing and most of the Hawks players, Buff in particular gave Pronger his props for his great play during the handshake.

  • In reply to psennett:

    folks..it is not called the "city of brotherly shove" for nothing.....

  • In reply to PatrickBoylan:

    You know, I'm sick of this excuse. Saying that Philly was only booing Bettman. No they weren't cause a whole new set of boo's came out when the cup was hoisted, and continued through out the celebration. Would Chicago have booed Bettman, well I've never seen Chicago fans complain about him like some others have, but maybe, lets say they do, then fine, but to stay and boo the cup, thats different. See if pronger where to get the conn smyth then maybe they boo him, but they have a reason. What was the reason behind booing towes, and they wouldn't have booed the cup. What was the flyers reason, cause they lost, thats called being a sore loser. You know Flyer fans were voted most annoying fans, and its been said by many that flyer fans at their worst is the worst. One team has to hold being the most classless fans, and its clearly not all fans, but the flyers take it. And for some reason they pride themselves from it.

  • In reply to rjchipmunk:

    And who made you an expert on respect and class? As an elementary school teacher, I think I know a little bit about respect because that is what I spend 99% of my time teaching my kindergarteners about. You should be the one looking in the mirror because your entry is overflowing with disrespect not only towards us Hawks fans and our players, but to your teachers as well for the lack of thought that you put into this entry.

  • In reply to rjchipmunk:

    Classless? Classless is reporting fiction as fact. On my TV I clearly heard cheering for the Hawks as they raised the cup. This 'reporter' is as useless as he is classless. Philly is respectful but in your face. Someone probably called this guy a name so he decided to write an article like this-just my opinion.

  • In reply to chiman55:

    There was an aweful lot of booing at first....granted it was a minority, but it was a large minority. Leno even talked about it on the Tonight show lastnight.....they also booed Toews when he was given the Con Smyth...

  • In reply to cubman987:

    No one on this blog even has the first clue about the game. Its the same thing EVERY year. When the Cup is won on opposing teams ice...the winning teams fans make this same STUPID complaint. "WAH! They didnt cheer hard enough for us!!! WAH!"

    It just goes to show why people get so mad at the bandwagoners (like yourself cubman987) They just dont get it. Know the game for longer than a year and MAYBE someone would give a shit about your opinion.

  • In reply to cubman987:

    WELL....If JAY LENO even talked about it... it must mean something!! Im mean... we all know what Jay has meant to hockey!

    Just another illustration of what "BIG" fans this CUBMAN987 and the rest of you hockey know-nothings really are. Fans since April? Or did you wait until the end of MAy?

    I cant wait till next year already! The Hawks will disband much of this lucky team and we can all get back to the rubber match- PENS vs WINGS III

  • In reply to rjchipmunk:

    I'm piling on at this point, but have to ask, was the writer of the blog at the Spectrum? I'm a Hawk fan who made the trek out for Game 6, and your assessment only captures part of the story. The Flyers were disappointed and frustrated, but they weren't booing the Hawks. They were booing Bettman, and yes, they were not happy with Toews winning the MVP trophy (not sure I agree with that either, great playoffs but not the Stanley Cup MVP). The biggest issue is that noone, Hawks or Flyers fans, knew what happened in OT. A scrum, and then Kaner and the rest are throwing their gloves off and celebrating. No horn, no light, no replay. Just an announcement that the call was under review and then another indicating the Hawks won. So fans were a bit agitated and confused by losing in what we all assumed was a somewhat controverwsial fashion. Perhaps the Flyers mgmt was responsible for this, if they had showed the replay, which clearly was a goal, there would have been some closure.

    The Flyers fans did appreciate their team- they made it a point to cheer their team for their effort - serenading the team with "Lets go Flyers". And many did stick around for the ceremony and cheered the Hawks at various points. Flyers fans did give me and my buddies some crap, but they also respected us for making the trek and were there to appreciate good hockey. A better question would be- why did the Flyer fans give up on their team even though there were down 3-2? We got our tickets for face value at the Flyers website, an hour before game time, and tickets were available walk up at puck drop.

  • In reply to peterkat:

    No they clearly booed when Toews held up the cup and they also went on to throw stuff at them as they skated around...I've watched the whole thing a ton and there was a large minority there who acted poorly.....but it was still a minority and it looked to me as most of the Philly fans were pretty cool.

  • In reply to rjchipmunk:

    Sir if you were in the building for game 6 you would of wrote a different article. But you were going on your bias perception about Philly fans and had to fit it into your story. Sitting next to Blackhawks fans we had a great night together sharing stories, learning about the other, agonizing over our teams and having a great time together. After the game we shook hands and hugged. I congratulated them on the Stanley Cup and they consoled me in my misery of watching a soft goal go in. Flyer fans in the first row turned to the Blackhawks fans and told them to come down so they can enjoy the post game better. There were many handshakes and congrats in the stands. Booing was for Bettman. A vast majority of the fans were cheering and honoring the Blackhawks. The "Lets go Flyers" chant was a way to honor the Flyers.
    If a cop was run over by another cop during the parade what would the national press say? If cops were running over unruly fans (which would be a story in itself) with 4X4's what would the national press say? If you go by parades the Phillies parade had none of that. But even if we did. We are 2 sport crazy towns who crave a Championship. Philly fans are great fans the are knowledgable,passionate fans. A vast majority are respectful.
    Congrts to the Blackhawks, to their ownership, coaches ( who did a great job adusting to render Pronger ineffective) and to the Blackhawks fans for an awesome season.
    You shouldn't hate use. You should thank us for giving you the likes of Patrick Sharp, Ben Eager, Ryne Sandberg and Fergie Jenkins.

  • In reply to rjchipmunk:

    What did Opey Taylor write this article? Are you kidding me dude? The Philly fans just LOSE the Stanley Cup and you want them cheering? What kind of a butthead are you? Did Cub fans cheer for Steve Bartman when he was wrongly accused of costing the Cubs a game? I don't think so. Do White Sox fans provide standing ovations to close losses at US Cellular?

    Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser, like you!

  • In reply to rjchipmunk:

    You know, considering the Hawks have 2 cups in the last 50 years (not 1) I don't think the flyers are in the same situation. Why did the chicago media and players attack the flyers the way they did. Well, because the flyers came at them first. Then booing the stanly cup, just sad. Hawks did nothing worse if even equal to what Philly did, so it sounds to me that flyer fans can give it but can't take it.

  • In reply to rjchipmunk:

    Wow really. What is the deal with these Philly fans math. The hawks have won 2 cups in 50 years, not 1 50 some years, not 1 in 50 years 2 in less than 50 years. What is the deal? Really your comment here was a very misguided attack on Hawk fans. Actually it was not misguided, it was more like a shot in the dark. It supplied no backing or support for the claims made.

    Just remember, Hawk fans never got on the preds, nucks, and sharks fans. Can you imagine why this might be. As far as the Flyer fans they had complaints from Habs fans and Bruin fans, and well, Devil fans even had complaints. And of course the complaints came from both sides, but isn't it kinda funny that many flyer fans had arguments that the 4 teams they played got classless. Yet Chicago only had trouble with Philly. See teams don't like getting treated that way, so at times they will fight back, but good teams like the hawks will focus on winning first then take care of business afterwards.

  • In reply to Longshanks:

    it's a reputation that your city won't live down...every city has at least one. chicago has it's share of moron fans. just like the phillies fan who vomitted on the cop (on purpose). nice.

  • In reply to Longshanks:

    Some would say taking another jab by calling them classless losers isn't any more dignified. But then Chicago like Philly has never been been really known for good winners or losers or class 4 that matter. The Hawks team have been gracious winners - the way guys who know what its like to actually compete act. Congratulations to the Blackhawks.

  • In reply to Longshanks:

    One of the most classless cities on the face of the planet. Lived near there for a little over 4 years. They don't even appreciate their own teams' accomplishments - the teams deserve to win, the fans don't deserve to be called fans. Glad I live elsewhere.

  • In reply to railbox306:

    Chicago's not that bad.

  • In reply to PhlyersPhan:

    good one

  • In reply to Longshanks:

    This is a stupid article. The hawks won, leave it alone. Why downgrade the fans for not "loosing better". And did anyone see the Hawks fans giving the Flyers the middle finger as they skated by during the games? Now that's class!!

  • In reply to Longshanks:

    The Hawks woo hoo!!!! Also congrats to the Flyers. The 2 best teams made it to the end but only 1 could win it. The Flyers played hard. You think the Flyer fans are bad hahaha NY fans are 100x's worst. Give credit to where credit is due the Hawks played and won, the Flyers worked and played as hard but lost. Not all fans are good for any team but that is the way it is. Winning off of home ice has it's problems but Flyers fans stayed to watch the ceremony, yes maybe some were just plain rude but what did you expect when the team they love lost.

  • In reply to SMDN3:

    I'm a Hawks fan, but I disagree that the Flyers
    didn't pay homage to their team. Once it was confirmed that Kane's goal counted, the Wachovia Center errupted in a chant of "Let's Go Flyers!" You could hear it on the TV loud and clear.

    I agree it was classless of the fans to boo the trophy presentations, but let's be real here. Hawks fans would've done the same, as would any disappointed fans have if the visitors won on their home ice.

  • In reply to SMDN3:

    Throughout the series, the Flyers' faithful were everything a home crowd should be. They gave their team an advantage on their home ice, and created a lot of buzz (albeit a couple premature goal "buzzes" in game 3). The conclusion of last night's game SHOULD have been a more ceremonious event. In the end, Flyers fans should have looked past their disappointment and shown appreciation for BOTH teams. Am I the only one who caught the numerous middle-finger instances during the post-game ceremonies?

    Having witnessed the Stanley Cup Finals each of the last 20+ years, I can honestly say last night's reaction by Philly faithful was one of, if not THE, worst.

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    "Premature goal buzzes"??? What you mean like the goal that counted but the referees made them play on for about another 45 seconds before reviewing the call and determining that it was clearly in the net. Had that happened in Chicago, they would have immediately reviewed it. George, your stink as a writer and you're even worse as a person.

  • In reply to Longshanks:

    You should talk about my mother next.

  • In reply to Longshanks:

    Bufylien disrespects the Flyers logo by draping the Hawk flag over it and proceeding to scratch out the logo with his skates. Kane taunts the Philly fans, but hey, Flyer fans are classless? Give me a break. Nice that you couldn't pay fans to see a Hawk game 3 years ago (ala 3,000 average attendance). Those are apparently your true fans and not most of the bandwagoners now who are ignorant to the game and couldn't tell you what interference is. Unlike Hawk fans, Philly fans support their teams thru the worst of times. So quit with the Philly bashing especially relating to Santa Claus that happened 50 yrs ago. Chicago has no room to talk about class when you set a field on fire and attack a first base coach.

  • In reply to CAPhillyFan:

    "Unlike Hawk fans, Philly fans support their teams thru the worst of times." So Philly fans are not only classless, but stupid as well.

    Professional sports teams are a for-profit BUSINESS, no different than a restaurant or a grocery store. By your simple logic, I should support my favorite restaurant even if I get food poisoning from every meal.

    I've been a Hawks fan since the mid-1970's, but like other smart people, I withdrew my support while old man Wirtz mismanaged the team into near oblivion. Only an idiot would support a franchise that basically gave its fans the middle finger for 15 years.

    After he finally died, his son took the team from near-oblivion (the AHL Chicago Wolves sometimes had better home attendance than the Blackhawks) to Stanley Cup champions in three years. Even a Philly fan should be able to understand what an accomplishment that really is, but you guys are too busy patting yourselves on the back for being "true fans".

  • In reply to badidea777:

    All SPORTS VENUES Boo .... lol.... why the insult flocking .... wow.... ingnorance knows NO bounds ... roflmao .... Hey America .... 13 or more players were Canadians ... how classless is ya really ??

  • In reply to badidea777:

    If I had lived in Chicago, or if someone like Wirtz ran the Flyers the way the Hawks were run, I wouldn't have gone either.

    I'm not sure my fellow Flyer fans on here truly understand how bad it was in Chicago. Because their "Philly fans support their teams thru the worst of times" not only isn't true, but it doesn't seem to appreciate how bad it was for Hawks fans.

    The Phillies attendance was horrible in the 90s and early 2000s. The Sixers cannot give tickets away (that horrible situation might be the closest thing we have to the Hawks circumstance, but I still think the Hawks had far worse). And the Flyers were bad a few years ago and you could see the difference in attendance.

    Man, what I really hate about this article and about samsdad is that it makes it really hard to be gracious to a team and a fan base that really deserves the right to party a bit.

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    As a Flyer season ticket holder, I find getting a lesson in class from a Chicago blogger insulting ? Where were you when Bear fans hoisted "Finish what Katrina started" signs when they faced the Saints in '07 NFC Title game. I know of several instances instigated by Bear fans at Soldier field in 2002 when the Eagles beat the Bears....there are Cub fan fights all over YouTube...not to mention throwing beer @ Victorino.

    My seats at the Wachovia are section 112 row 23 seats 3-4. I can tell you there were 2 Hawk fans a few seats down from me, & our row was nothing but respectful & courteous to them. I even congratulated them, & every other Hawk fan I made eye contact with, on the way out.

    And not that I booed anyone, but some did because:

    Toews had 2 assists in a high scoring series....some were hopefule Briere, who's 12 pts in the finals is 2nd all time to Gretzky's 13, might get some consideration.

    Bettman's been booed at many arena's for diluting the NHL with expansion...see what happens when you get 2 good cities in the Finals ? You actually might draw a decent rating.

    Seriously, you won your 1st title in 49 years, & you're worried about us ? Go enjoy your parade tomorrow, & forget about the few fans that didn't show the Hawks the appreciation you feel they deserve.

    Congrats, the better team won.......

  • In reply to GDarkow:

    Congratulations on winning the cup Chicago! As far as I'm concerned there are no better fans than the fans from Chicago, but I was born and raised there. If I was from Philly I would be saying they were the best, but I'm not. We are true fans. We must be, look at how long we wait until we win something but we still keep supporting them. One thing I must say is that it's great to see that people are passionate about where they are from and you can see it in their passion for their teams. I was going to write something negative about the Philly fans and their booing, but I realized they love their team as much as I do. Emotions run high and it is an adrenaline rush just watching hockey on tv much less than being there. (I was one of the few women that went to games before it was fashionable to do so.) For me it was a great end to a great season and I congratulate the Flyers for making it to the the finals. But one thing I will say is that no city has better pizza than Chicago! And true Chicagoans know it's not deep-dish tourist pizza, it's crispy thin crust all the way.

  • In reply to SMDN3:

    George, unlike most cities, in philadelphia we actually live and die with our teams, and in all honesty most of us were booing gary bettman because hes gary bettman. He than precided to get giddy for the hawks and with the way it ended and being on on our home ice we did exactly what we should, we booed. We cheered as the game ended, showing our appreciation to the team for their great efforts and showed great respect towards the hawks by sticking around and watching the ceremony. We WILL NOT CHEER or show satisfaction towards the hawks winning on our ice and if you dont understand that which I expect you wont, than thats your problem.

  • In reply to flyersphan:

    You just proved George's point.

  • In reply to flyersphan:

    Let's not forget that a shirtless father and son tag team jumped out of the stands at a White Sox game and beat up the Royal's first base coach. Talk about low class, that takes the cake and that was just 7 years ago yet you're talking about booing Santa Claus in 1968. You're a moron. Just take a look at Bill Ligue's facebook page. Yeah, real winner.

  • In reply to SMDN3:

    I'm a Philadelphian and I'll say congratulations to the Chicago Black Hawks. They played a tremendous series...and this won't be the last time Chicagoans get to win the Cup.

    Having said that, the reporting and the "Chris Pronger poster" of your newspaper was the only classless things from either team or city during this series.

    The reporting of the post-game scene is a flat-out lie. I sat, painful as it was, and watched the Cup being given to the Black Hawks last night. I saw not one of the things "reported" in this story, save for the booing of Gary Bettman. We're not the first city to boo one of the worst Commissioners of any professional sports...and we won't be the last.

    The Flyers fans saluted their team and the Black Hawks, if you watched the same post-game I did.

    Congratulations, and next time it'd be nice if the Tribune and a very few Black Hawks fans showed the class a city like Chicago deserves.

    Putting Pronger in a skirt was juvenile, sexist and disrespectful to the women athletes in Chicagoland and everywhere

  • In reply to BobMagee:

    Agreed, Bob. It was an awesome series, with just good, hard playing, like hockey is supposed to be. I doubt we'll ever see one like it again.

  • In reply to BobMagee:

    George's point is that we are classless for booing, I say that if we were to cheer it wouldn't show respect, but that we didn't live and die with our teams like we do. If I could really seperate my emotions less than 5 minutes after a stanley cup ot loss to cheer for the other team than their is a serious problem in the 1st place.

  • In reply to BobMagee:

    I wish I could have seen the same game you did. I'm sure a lot of people do. To say those were the only classless things. Well, for starters what about Prongers stealing the puck incidents. Then flipping a towel at hawk players and in the interview when asked what was said to him he responds "I don't know, I don't speak jiberish". Then the Philly media talking about how chicago and there fans are crying about pronger and the refs. Well, (and this is really the first time I've seen this) Chicago fought back. The press came out with the Pronger picture.

    I can even go on and speak of the many many stories of hawk fans getting harassed and attacked at Philly games. No its not all of the fans and I know there are many good fans with class there, but I can honestly say as a whole, the Philly fan base is the most classless or atleast top 5. Hey someone has to be it. Its really what they pride themselves on.

    As far as the post-game yes they booed the commissioner. I was good with that, many were. They then continued to boo through out the the cup being raised and passed around. They even booed during the picture. Then did you see all of the people throwing out that middle finger.

    Did you know that they never found the game winning puck. Can't imagine where that went. Or atleast we know exactly what everyone is going to think.

    As far as the pronger poster being Juvenile, well, it was not anyworse than what Philly did (and many Chicago fans did not support the idea. Yet I gurantee if it happens in Philly it is supported). As far as sexist and disrespectful to women athletes, I'm not really sure how you got to that idea. They were calling him a figure skater, it has nothing to do with sex or women at all. Ok maybe its disrespectful to figure skating, but that was obviously not the intentions.

  • In reply to SMDN3:

    TY SMDN3. The 2 men in my family were at the game (Flyers fans) and they did say that some classless people were booing but that most stood and celebrated with Chicago. It's a shame this reporter didn't get to actually SEE the game. As far as the announcer mentioning how well the Flyers did and the fans didn't respond, they couldn't even HEAR the guy.

  • In reply to FlyersFan76:

    The announcer???? Jesus Christ! Isnt anyone on here an actual hockey fan!?!?

    That announcer was Gary Bettman.... you know... the commissioner???? He gets boo'd every year. What the hell is the matter with you people? Go back to watching the Eagles and stop pretending you actually care about hockey or the Flyers!

  • In reply to FlyersFan76:

    GoPhylers-

    Dog face? really? My dog is cuter than your kid...and stronger too!

    (I didnt want to go there, I really didnt, but I blame you)

  • In reply to Dmband:

    To be fair, his kid would be way cuter if he wasn't wearing that jersey.

  • In reply to SMDN3:

    This article fails so bad. You know what I was searching for Flyers 2010 apprieciation looking for somewhere to explain the joy they gave me this postseason. What I find is a horrible excuse for journalism. One thing I know is our fan bases are pretty much identical. We have a core of diehard fans with a few bad apples. So now were a classless act? How about Chicago fans who beat up a umpire. So I should assume all Chicago are drunks who beat up umpires right? Is this the only way you get people to read your articles? SAD

  • You've clearly never played hockey and why not celebrate your win instead of calling another fanbase classless? Classless is having your stadium full of Wings fans for the last 15 years. Philly is a die hard sports city and there was a small vocal minority booing. Hell I've booed Bettman on every occasion I could. They come out and support their team with passion.

  • I will say that as a writer you wrote a lazy, easy story with no actual insight but a look from a far. As a diehard philadelphian and flyers fan this run exemplified everything our city was about, and to see it end was frustrating. Unlike the blackhawks, good or bad our team has never been last in attendance and though you can complain that we boo it is outta of pure love and passion and dissappointment to see this team we so fell in love with lose. So go ahead and write this story which is a lazy cheap shot the day after the hawks won the cup, and know that your classlessness is way more laughable than ours.

  • In reply to flyersphan:

    If the Flyers owner refused to pay for a single decent player, refused to air home games on TV, traded away Chris Chelios, Ed Belfour Jeremy Roenick and every other block of the team from 90's you'd have abandoned the Flyers too. Hawks fans did the right thing in abandoning the team they love. When the owner passed away, the new owner knew what he had to do. He did it, and the fans returned.

    Cubs fans should learn from Blackhawks fans.

  • In reply to JimmyGreenfield:

    Hey Jimmy,
    Well said. I think it's actually more telling that the city came back and embraced this team once the organization showed it was willing to embrace it's fans.
    Enjoy the Cup and enjoy the parade tomorrow. It was well earned and long overdue.

  • In reply to JimmyGreenfield:

    You mean that the fans who left the stadium empty for years jumped on he bandwagon this year.

  • In reply to flyersphan:

    George D you are a disgraceful reporter...this is nothing but a bunch of blatant lies - I can't even refer to it as "mis-reporting". Were you even in that stadium? I made the trek to that game and what I saw was a bunch of die hard fans who cheered their team and chanted "Let's go Flyers", even when they lost, and acknowledged the unbelievable and almost miraculous run that their team had this season. I watched a disappointed fan base behave appropriately in a league that has been nothing but shameless when doling out suspensions to the Flyers for a whole lot less than other teams, including our beloved Hawks, get away with. Yes, they booed. Yes, they cheered. Yes, they stayed around until almost 1 in the moring to watch the opposing team parade the cup on THEIR ice. Tell me, what would we have done? They say Philly fans are rough but I was treated with nothing but true "brotherly love" by the Philadelphia fans. Sure, there was a little taunting but in order to have any game, regardless of the sport, there needs to be an opponent. I respect the passion that the Philly fans have for their teams. It's unfortunate that knuckle heads like you perpetuate the bad behavior of a handful in order to sell papers.

  • In reply to flyersphan:

    You're a flat out liar. You must have been watching a different game. Watch any replay of them handing the cup over and people cheered. You have it backwards, Chicago fans like yourself are classless to the end. Poor winners to say the least. I don't remember it being a requirement that all opposing team fans must stick around and cheer the other team. Every year the losing team's fans leave the arena if they lose on home ice. What I've learned about Chicago sports fans is that you're immensely arrogant in your assumptions and assertions about opposing fans. You talk about things that happened decades ago in Philly like booing Santa Claus. Really, grow up loser.

    I think what's been evidence in this series is how Chicago fans consistently mock and ridicule Philly fans and then claim that Philly fans are classless. The Chicago rag Tribune even sent a reporter to Philly to walk around the city with a Blackhawks jersey just to elicit a response. That's low class.

    Your team won, Congratulations, but to write drivel like this is nothing but a smear campaign by classless poor winners like yourself. Philly fans always gave the Blackhawks props, but it's people like you and the rest of the low class fan base that seem intent on painting Philly sports fans in a bad light. After reading this rubbish, I wish you the worst fella. Hang onto that "blogging" job it's probably about all your capable of doing.

  • LMAO just saw this! That is incredible... that sure wasn't us cheering our bitter rival Mario Lemieux for his last game (1st retirement) after the series in 1997, or when he came back from Hodgkins disease. What a bunch of classless bastards we are!!! I mean I'm sure hawks fans would do that for any Red Wing........

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    This article is old as can be but the record needs setting straight. First off, how a Blackhawks fan (read- one of the most disloyal fanbases in the NHL after the penguins and islanders) can call Philadelphia 'undeserving' of 'recent successes,' of which there have been few, is an absolute joke. Philly fans, at least for the Birds and Flyers, will sell out the place even when the team is awful. Blackhawks fans, maybe you should take a hint from Flyers fans in the first post-lockout season, after which you got Patrick Kane in the draft (now, THAT was undeservingly) when we were 12 points worse. That season, we were far and away the worst team in the NHL, and we still were 7th in the league in attendance. So get off your high fucking horse and recognize how piss poor your front running fanbase is. Next, booing Bettman? Really? Your're taking issue with that? The guy has overseen THREE lockouts, and I will NEVER cheer that guy, under any circumstances. Wouldn't cheer that asshole if he was giving me his kidney when I needed a transplant. Learn more about hockey before you write such a ridiculous article lambasting Flyers fans. Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house.

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