Bulls remain quiet at trade deadline, Pacers/Cavs get steals as 76ers go full tank

The Chicago Bulls, as expected, remained quiet at the trade deadline. When looking at the deals Philadelphia was able to get for Spencer Hawes and Evan Turner, it's clear why Chicago wasn't a seller.

The 76ers looking to maximize how crappy their roster is while also trying to get something back for players they don't expect to resign dumped Spencer Hawes and Evan Turner.

These trades both seem singularly horrific for Philadelphia. Not that it's my money, but they traded Turner + Allen for a 2015 2nd rounder and Danny Granger (whom they expect to buy out?).

Not only did they effectively get nothing back (Indiana's 2015 2nd rounder has to be expected to be around nothing), but they also took on considerably more salary in the deal than they gave up. All three players are expiring, but Granger makes far more than Allen + Turner combined. It's like they purchased a crappy 2015 2nd rounder for a few million dollars.

The Hawes trade isn't quite so egregious, but again, the 76ers got just a couple of second rounders back for Hawes who's been a quality player.

It's rare that I say at the trade deadline "I wish the Bulls could have gotten in on one of these deals" but DAMN, I wish the Bulls could have gotten in on one of these deals. I'm not sure that I'd want to pay big money to keep Hawes or Turner next season, seeing as that they're rental type players.

However, to get their bird rights and a chance to sign them for 2nd rounders and have Philadelphia possibly bring you under the tax at the same time? Not bad. Of course, the obvious counter point is at this point, the Bulls had nothing to offer that would have satisfied what Philadelphia wanted.

Sadly, if Boozer was expiring, it seems likely the Bulls could have swung him for Hawes, Allen, and Turner by simply throwing in the return they got from the Deng trade. That would have given them an interesting look for next season. However, Boozer wasn't expiring, and the Bulls had no other players who could match salary for the either guy that were expiring or worth giving up in a rental.

Either way, both of these trades are great for the opposite parties. Cleveland has six in a row and quite possibly pulled itself out of the high percentage lottery odds with the streak. The Cavs also have a legit shot to make the playoffs if they continue to play well. In the long run, adding Hawes/Deng may hurt more than help them if they avoid getting a good pick and both players jet, but if Hawes can contribute, they have a shot at making the playoffs.

Have the Pacers done enough to be favorites in the East? It will be interesting to see if Andrew Bynum (added earlier) can give them anything down the stretch, because if Indiana has two monster centers to throw at Miami, it's going to be awfully tough for the Heat.

Adding Turner gives them another athletic, dangerous player coming off the bench, and their depth looks far better than the Heat's at this point. I've still got Miami, because I'm not betting against LeBron, but I'm starting to waver on that one. Indiana might be the best team in the NBA right now, and they got at least a bit better at the deadline without giving up anything.

Trade deadline shows Bulls will be well positioned on draft day

There were no first round picks swapped out at the deadline, a sign that front offices really do believe strongly in the quality of players that will come out of this draft. I think that's rare, especially given the players moved.

That makes it obvious why the Bulls stood pat. It was a buyers market, but Chicago had no capital to buy with. So instead of panic selling they waited. I endorse the move.

What it also means is that come draft day, Chicago could be in a very strong position. If they get the Charlotte pick, then they'll have two picks in a draft everyone wants a bigger piece of. On top of that, they'll have Carlos Boozer's now expiring contract to be bandied about in terms of trading for a star.

Kevin Love should be on the radar again this summer, and if things don't look good for the Wolves in terms of resigning him, then an offer of Boozer + 4 1sts (two this year, Kings pick + Bulls pick next year) could look awfully tempting to Minnesota. Other similar possibilities of trading for a star player will arise.

If the Bobcats manage to fall out of the playoff spot but stay in the pick 11 spot then Chicago's odds of pulling something good off will be even higher, and even if they can't, then their odds of getting real value in the draft will at least increase.

Either way, the signals at this deadline show that the NBA unanimously agrees this draft is stacked, and the Bulls appear likely to have two pieces of it.

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  • Doug, if the Sixers waive Granger any chance the Bulls sign him for the remainder of the season? Not a great player but could add some much needed shooting.

  • In reply to BullsFan231:

    Someone asked one of the beat writers on Twitter. The answer was that it's unlikely. Roger Mason Jr. is believed to be the front runner for the last spot after Varnado's contract expires.

  • In reply to BullsFan231:

    Bulls will not add anybody to the roster (full-time) for the remainder of the season. Bulls will only sign a 10-day contract, followed by the maximum 14 days with a 12 man roster after that 10-day contact expires, then sign another 10-day contract. REPEAT till end of season.

    Bulls main roster goal the remainder of this season is avoiding the luxury tax.

  • For the Bulls to give up all those assets for Kevin Love would be very risky, because he's got ties to Los Angeles. Of course, everyone knows Love can sign with the Lakers as an unrestricted free agent in 2015.

  • In reply to RichG:

    Also, the Bulls can't trade their 1st rounder two years in a row.

    Love is making noises that he isn't as enamored of LA as people assume.

  • In reply to Tyler Soze:

    My son goes to UCLA where Love played college ball and works outs in the off season. He also has a girl friend in LA. Word is that he wants to play in Los Angeles. He's a real California guy and why swap the winters of Minneapolis for Chicago?

  • In reply to Vic Nardozza:

    Exactly. From what I read, Love has hinted he isn't as enamored with THE LAKERS as people assume.

    There is another team in LA, and that team has a piece (Griffin) that would be pretty attractive to Minny in a trade.

  • In reply to Vic Nardozza:

    agree, If I was a betting man, I would put money down on Love ending up in LA one way or another.

  • In reply to Tyler Soze:

    The Bulls can still easily offer 4#1 picks, if that is really enough to get it done. They can offer the Charlotte and Sacto picks plus their picks in alternating years. Clearly, if you can get Love for nothing but picks and the BozoHole you have to do it.

    The question is, can the Bulls extend Love as part of the deal, the new CBA put restrictions on that maneuver.

  • In reply to Tyler Soze:

    If the Bulls brought Love over, and he was playing with Rose and Noah and working with Thibs, and getting big endorsement deals and the like, and Chicago didn't repeat this lousy winter, I find it hard to believe that he'd just up and leave for L.A. because he likes it.

  • Turner was playing really well earlier this year. If he can get going like that again maybe he perks up their offense. Problem is, while he also is a good assist guy, his three point shooting three out of four years has been awful. Still, his solid two point percentages and he gets to the line a little could add something. Have to say his steals numbers for as many minutes as he plays on the wing are pretty pedestrian to say the least. Give Pacers/Larry credit for showing time and again they will go the extra mile to improve their team's chances to win.

    Al Jefferson and Kemba Walker are making it look more and more likely that Bulls get two picks in a deep, high valued draft. Hopefully the NBA scouts and execs are right. Of course the key is Rose returns healthy and resumes an at minimum good career. Rose, Mirotic, Taj, Noah, a good young offensive talent and Bulls will be worth watching again.

  • One thing to note re: the Turner-Granger trade: the Sixers were (and still are) under the minimum salary floor. So while they did take on more salary, they are not paying nay more out of pocket than they would have anyway (because teams under the floor just pay their players extra until they reach it). Looked at that way, the Sixers got a second rounder for free.

  • In reply to Sitnah:

    Astute financial observation! Thanks for the insight and detail.

  • Three way deal that would have made sense

    Chicago gets: G Evan Turner (a chicago kid), F Lavoy Allen
    Phoenix Gets: Carlos Boozer
    Philadelphia Gets: Emeka Okafor, CHI 2nd, PHO 2nd

    Would have gotten us even further away from the tax line, Philly gets an extra draft pick and Phoenix gets something for Emeka's corpse. Hindsight...

  • In reply to nolebron:

    I'm guessing that Phoenix wants nothing to do with the Hole's $16.8 million next season. They could have just dealt with Philly directly, and they could have offered Philly one of their 4 #1's. Nice try, but the Hole is a Hole for a reason, and the Bulls are stuck in it.

  • The returns for traded players at this trade deadline that Doug describes (a 2nd round pick), make the Deng trade look better and better. That unusual Andrew Bynum contract with the mid-season release became a $20 million financial windfall for Bulls. And if Sacramento's protected first actually becomes a first, then it will become a great trade under the circumstances. Bulls also got two crappy 2nd rounders for 3 picks in total.

  • In reply to Edward:

    Also, if can swap picks with Cleveland, as long as they are out of the lottery next season, it's even bigger. Best case, say we get the Sactown pick around 11-13 next year. AND, we get to swap picks with Cleveland, from 25ish to around 16ish... that would be HUGE.

  • In reply to Granby:

    Yes, forgot about that swap option. That would be HUGE.

  • In reply to Edward:

    Haha here's hoping the Jason Terry trade causes Sacramento to be the team that gets hot at the end of the season!

  • In reply to FreeJoakim:

    Sac'to is likely not climbing up to #13. Best situation to root for would be for them to get a stud in the draft & improve next year, giving us a 2015 pick in the 11-18 range. Also need to root for Cleveland to make the playoffs next year so we can get the swap.

  • Anybody interested in a Ben Gordon reunion if he is bought ought? I've heard we have no shot at Big Baby or Antawn Jamison. What about Earl Clark as well?

  • In reply to FreeJoakim:

    Doug is interested in Ben Gordon!
    Sorry, I couldn't resist....

  • In reply to Edward:

    Doug has hope!

    https://mobile.twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/436947641092804608?screen_name=WojYahooNBA

  • In reply to FreeJoakim:

    None of them .... they all are garbage

  • Yes, it's too bad Chicago could not have gotten involved in the Turner sweepstakes, but he cannot shoot all that well and probably would not be a great fit with Rose given he needs to ball so much.

    But, could nice for Bulls since Charlotte likely will stay in the 7-9 position with their moves. So, that pick could be in the money between 11 and 15.

    And, even bigger, perhaps Indy views Turner as a cheaper option than Stephenson after this year. So, Stephenson could be available. Many thought that he would not leave Indy, or that Indy would not give him up.

  • In reply to Granby:

    From what I read in an article several months back, apparently D Rose never liked Turner... I guess he disliked him back in their high school days...

  • I was thinking that but Deeks was reporting that we can't stop playing the 10-day contract game until 4/3 at which point I believe BG will have already signed with another contender.

  • I have know idea who this guy is, but he seems to think that "people"
    in the know, know that Mirotic is coming to the NBA next season, hopefully he is right, I think that he is.

    Héctor Fernández: "People at Real Madrid know Nikola Mirotic won't play with the Spanish club next season and they are sure he will play with the Chicago Bulls. They are interested in Justin Doellman and Jan Vesely." Onda Cero

  • With what the owners saved on the Deng trade, escaping the tax, plus what they will make on the playoffs, maybe they will be more willing to amnesty Boozer.

    The Bulls could be players on draft time, with two 1st round picks, plus possibly Taj or Dunleavy in a move-up.

  • In reply to rustyw:

    I read an article stating that Okafor was an asset because insurance payed 80% of his salary because of injury. I'm not sure but I think insurance covers most of Rose's salary if he doesn't play for the rest of the year, thus saving the Bulls even more money. If anyone has more info on this, enlighten us.

  • In reply to rustyw:

    We can only hope. Will Reinsdorf pay $16 million to Boozer for not playing? It is a big question, not at all a given.

  • All of our hope is gone for even next year, just like this one. FO does not have imagination nor vision. We cannot rely on the draft to get us a superstar and keeping Boozer seems to be in the FO plans. Where the team is going is clear. FO is only concerned with keeping the stadium full by keeping the status quo and not taking chances. Charlotte will win a Championship before Chicago will.

  • In reply to penwit1:

    The Chicago FO certainly seems stronger than the Charlotte FO, so I would think Chicago gets a championship first. However, it does take some breaks to win even one. Last year Miami should have lost the Finals in 6.

    When we see who is on the team next autumn and how it meshes, we'll have a better idea.

  • In reply to penwit1:

    I don't know why you'd write that all hope is gone. Rose will come back, great chance that Mirotic comes over, plus a couple of first rounders and an offseason, this team could look very different next year, even if Boozer returns. This team is not likely a championship team next year but they could put themselves at the doorstep.

  • I highly doubt that there is any credence to this tweet, but I would love to see the Bulls pick up Davis and hopefully have him sit on Boozer and break something. Can't we just trade boozer for Davis even if Davis doesn't have a team anymore.

    David AldridgeVerified account
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    Add Bulls to list of teams interested in Glen Davis, per sources. Davis had a good relationship w/Tom Thibodeau when Thibs ran C's defense.

    I'm sure that he will end up with the Clippers and Doc or maybe the Nets with KG. although, maybe he was closest with Thibs, I am sure that Thibs spent a ton of time working with him.

    The "only"/biggest problem is that Davis would put the Bulls back over the tax line. I don't think that this would be such a big deal if it wasn't for the repeater tax.

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