As injuries mount with the losses, Kendrick Perkins shows Joakim Noah how to be an asshat

As injuries mount with the losses, Kendrick Perkins shows Joakim Noah how to be an asshat

Luol Deng's out again, Kirk Hinrich isn't any closer, and Jimmy Butler left the arena on crutches before being interviewed. Somehow that just feels like the status quo for the Bulls this season. However, perhaps most bizarre is the post game incident between Joakim Noah and Kendrick Perkins.

Clipped from Mike McGraw's article today.

Anthony Slater from The Oklahoman sent this account:

Perkins: "They just let anybody in the locker room?"
Noah: "Come on, man."
Perkins: "I'm just asking."
Noah: "Come on, man."
Perkins: "Just let anyone in the locker room now?"
Noah: "You want me to wait outside?"
Perkins: "I'm just saying, though."
Noah: "If you want me to wait outside, I'll wait outside."
Perkins: "Get your ass up outta here."
Noah: "All right."

I must admit, when I first read that Noah had a confrontation in the hallway with Perkins I thought that perhaps the season was getting to him. Nope, Kendrick Perkisn is just a dick. Noah, who was invited into the locker room by Thabo Sefolosha didn't do anything out of line at all.

There's a part of me that appreciates this type of assholishness from Perkins. I kind of like it when teams don't like each other rather than having all the players be buddy buddy.

That said, the Bulls and Thunder sure as hell aren't rivals this year, haven't ever really been rivals, and unless there's a miraculous turnaround by Chicago next season (possible, but not necessarily likely) won't be rivals any time soon either.

Thabo probably should have checked with teammates before asking Noah. Maybe they should have just met at a bar or whatever else. That said, this was the post game of a regular season blowout by a championship contender and a bottom feeder. It's not like Noah was going to learn state secrets here.

Perkins could have addressed the situation without being an asshole just as easily, but that's not the Perkins way apparently.

Am I the only one who thought trade?

Luol Deng sat out the game unexpectedly, and Tom Thibodeau's quotes sounded like he had no idea what was going on. He just said it was a sore achilles or calf or something similar to last time.

Players are often pulled off the court when a trade is nearing completion.

Nope, Deng's injury appears legit. He noted he's been favoring his good leg for a couple of games and hasn't been moving well, so he needed some rest. Rest as long as you need Joakim.

Butler out for awhile?

Tom Thibodeau couldn't comment on the severity of Butler's injury simply saying he didn't know how bad it was, but when you leave the stadium in crutches before interviewing anyone it's probably not good.

If you believe in fate, then it sure looks like someone wants the Bulls to have a high draft pick this season. Reminds me of the old joke about the drowning man:

A fellow was stuck on his rooftop in a flood. He was praying to God for help.

Soon a man in a rowboat came by and the fellow shouted to the man on the roof, "Jump in, I can save you."

The stranded fellow shouted back, "No, it's OK, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me."

So the rowboat went on.

Then a motorboat came by. "The fellow in the motorboat shouted, "Jump in, I can save you."

To this the stranded man said, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."

So the motorboat went on.

Then a helicopter came by and the pilot shouted down, "Grab this rope and I will lift you to safety."

To this the stranded man again replied, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."

So the helicopter reluctantly flew away.

Soon the water rose above the rooftop and the man drowned. He went to Heaven. He finally got his chance to discuss this whole situation with God, at which point he exclaimed, "I had faith in you but you didn't save me, you let me drown. I don't understand why!"

To this God replied, "I sent you a rowboat and a motorboat and a helicopter, what more did you expect?"

If the Bulls fight there way out of the impact players, it won't be by lack of effort from the fates to give us a top three pick. However, if fate rewards those who keep pushing and working hard but never give up then Chicago might have something good coming to them.

Bulls now tied for seventh worst record in the NBA

The Bulls have pulled into a tie with the Nets for the seventh lowest record in the NBA with their odds at the #1 pick in the draft climbing up to 3.5%, more than double their odds when they landed Derrick Rose.

Here's how you know it's a good draft, when multiple people dedicate sites for tank tracking such as or

I'd only ask that one of the sites adds a "games back" tracker, but I suppose you really only need to look in the win column to see how difficult your climb up the tanking ladder will be.

The Bulls are just two wins back from the teams jockeying for second and have only been out-worsted by the Philadelphia 76ers over the past 10 games.

The Nets and Knicks look like locks to slide past Chicago back towards playoff contention which means if the Bulls slide continues that they'll be sitting around sixth before having to pass the teams that are really trying hard to lose which even at sixth gives them a 21% chance at a top three pick which is a pretty good shot at a franchise changing player.

Hell, it wouldn't surprise if a franchise changing player is available at six.

If the Bulls ever get healthy again, they could make a run at something, but who knows what the odds of that are? If Jimmy Butler's injury is significant (and leaving on crutches certainly implies he's not bad the next game at a minimum) then Chicago will really be down at least one man for awhile.

Who knows what happens with Deng/Hinrich, but it certainly doesn't look good for our playoff odds now.

As I've always said, you want to be decisive with these things. Last season was fun, it was good to get that series win. This year, that's not going to happen. This year the draft is much, much better. This year, the Bulls are losing key guys in FA anyway, so move them ahead of time.

I know I've pounded the idea home over and over, but as the Bulls drop further and further it becomes more and more obvious what the correct decision is. Just make it while you still have a chance to compete with Milwaukee, Orlando, and Philadelphia for those worst few records in the league.


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  • Perkins was jus mad cuz he couldn't defend Noah. He put up 23 and 12 on him!!! Notice Noah has a nice little.hook workin for him and his 12-15 foot shoot is fallin for him too...hopefully Noah continues to improve with his offense.

    if there is a fire sell of bulls players I hope Noah stays with the bulls. Starting not to care about anyone else on this team..bulls have the worst of fortune. Its getting ridiculously frustrating.

  • In reply to bullzfan:

    Agree, they should keep Noah. Although he is injury prone and offensively limited, there are very few better centers in the NBA. Noah, Taj, Butler and Rose are the guys I'd move forward with.

  • In reply to bullzfan:

    My sense is that Perkins dislike of Noah is a product of his time with the Celtics specifically that 7 games series when we scarred the shit out of them, and it was Noah's unofficial coming out party as a legitimate NBA player. That and he is pretty much an asshole anyway, or learned how to be one from Kevin Garnett.

  • I would add that though the Bulls and Thunder are not and have never been rivals, Noah and Perkins certainly have had their share of past battles when Perk was on the Celtics. So I'm not surpised to see him dick it out with Noah.

    As far as lottery odds go, be realistic. The Bulls are in the middle of a tough, mostly-road stretch punctuated with games against top teams. With a lot of their players out or hurting. Of course this was going to be bad. But soon they'll be back to battling the Leastern conference with more home games and more healthy players returned. They'll scrounge their way to 33 wins, make a 7 or 8 seed, get waxed in round 1, lose their chance for a significant draft pick, and the whole season will be a waste.

    What the Bulls really need is for Thibodeau to fake an illness. Tell everyone he has mono and has to stay home for 2 months. Only way the Bulls end up in the lottery is if he is not around to drive his players into the ground and totally miss the big picture..

  • In reply to stakfry526:

    The Bulls are in the middle of a tough, mostly-road stretch punctuated with games against top teams?

    In the past 10 games, the Bulls have played six at home and four on the road. They've played three teams over .500 over that stretch and won one of those games (against Miami).

    They're 2-8 overall.

    This has been a very easy stretch of games not a difficult stretch, it hasn't been a 'road stretch' either as they've played more at home than on the road recently.

    Sure these last two games were tough road games that a healthy Bulls team may have struggled to win, but the preceding seven? Those were some of the worst teams in the NBA with many of them at home. Stretches don't get much easier than that.

  • OK, let's cut to the chase and forget about this Noah-Perkins non-story. I would trade Noah and Nazr to OKC for Adams, Lamb, and Perkins. Works on RealGM Tradechecker #6387986. Bulls get two good young assets and a tub of shit. OKC gets front line in their prime that could dominate Spurs, Blazers, Clips, Heat and perhaps Indy for the next 3-5 years. OKC also gets old, washed-up phony tough guy in Nazr who people think actually pushed down Lebron in playoffs, but on replay looks like Lebron flopped.

  • In reply to hgarbell:

    You would not do this unless you felt that Adams and Lamb were worth more on the court than Noah. If they are, why would OKC do this trade? Maybe because they believe it would get them over the top.

    How much and how long is Perkins' contract?

  • In reply to rustyw:

    Perkins' contract runs through 14-15. I think Adams and Lamb are terrific prospects. The main reason OKC would pull the trigger on this is whether they are in full win-now mode. IMO Bulls window has closed if they cannot, or will not, sign Deng.

  • In reply to hgarbell:

    I agree with you as far as Noah to OKC. If the Bulls do want to trade Noah, OKC is the only place that I would want him to go. He would fit well with that team and make them the absolute favorite to win the title. It will not happen though, because they really like Adams and see him as the starter maybe even by the end of the year. I think they want to keep Lamb as well. Nobody wants Perkins. He is a year or two at most from being out of the league.

  • In reply to hgarbell:

    Not sure that OKC thinks it can afford Noah's contract, which is greater than Perkins. I like Adams, and I suspect that OKC likes him plenty also. Depending on whether or not OKC believes in amnesty Adams will become their starter next year, or the year after. Therefore, I don't think that they would make that deal.

    As much as I love Noah, I would have to think about it, but I can't imagine that Rose would like it very much. Throw in that Jackson kid and I'm in. In any event, OKC looks like they have a hell of team going forward, and should be ideally situated to take over for Miami when they decline.

  • At this point, people(beyond the age of say 25) who are spending much time on the Bulls(other then Doug who has to keep the pulse monitored for when the patient awakens from it's current comatose state) are just.. pretty lame.

    There are three reasons why most relatively happy people likely don't invest much in the Bulls( i.e bang their heads against a wall) in the near term. 1) Their offense(other then Rose) has sucked crank for an eternity. Until they get some legit offensive talent, I mean come on watch the Blazers or the Pacers and get some offense you crave if you're not a doorknob. 2) Paxson and Forman IMO are jags. Forman is a disingenuous prick and Pax while a great player and teammate is ill suited for management as he has never drafted or retained an all-star talent. I'm not going to waste my time elaborating further anyone who likes these guys is just f-ing clueless. 3) Sure, Drafts are always way over-hyped because it drives ratings attention for all mediums and thus generates revenue based on pathetic fan fantasies. Still, anyone with eyes can see this is a talent loaded draft especially and including probably at least two perennial all-stars and a bevvy of offensive starting talent.

    Yet, You and I KNOW the Bulls will not trade Deng for picks or circuitously gut the team to move up in this talent laden draft. It's just not going to happen. They will have their one pick which will likely be somewhere past the most scintillating franchise altering talent.

    The reason draft junkies like evaluating prospects is because they like ENTERTAINING i.e NBA quality level talent. It's that simple. The kudos for drafting injury plagued had a few good years Joakim Noah must stop. Likewise for injury plagued and foul prone limited bench big in Taj. The dude is a solid player, but it's not like they drafted David West or Rajon Rondo.

    Other then hiring Thibs who was an obvious choice for many Bulls fans beforehand, and lucking into Derrick Rose, what scintillating talent have the Bulls ever acquired through draft or trade and retained? Answer: no-body!

    The Bulls gave a superstar talent like Derrick Rose broke down Rip Hamilton and rental Kieth Bogans as back court mates. They f-ing suck. Yes, until Gar/Pax aka The Douche Bros. step down and a competent G.M. with balls to stand up to the owneris hired things will never change. We could have had Damian Lillard and a very good shot at a near future all-star in this draft, but other then by sheer luck or chance it will not happen. I'm watching the Pacers, Blazers, OKC(despite a-wipe Perkins), Houston occasionally and other teams with legit offensive and all around elite NBA atlletic performing talented players of which the Bulls are not. And stop with the Jimmy Butler love it's PATHETIC. The dude is shooting 40% from the field. Wake up!

    And by the way that conversation between Perkins and Noah if accurate, Joakim fine you're not a fighter, but you can do better then "come on man" and "all right" I mean how old are you now? Shit.

  • One other note: it's a good thing I(and many other legit non yuppie, regularly attending U.C. clueless f-ing fans) have distanced myself a bit(for now) from any expectations from the Bulls otherwise it would be tearing my guts out that, looking at this upcoming 2014 draft, it is one bad motherfucker, and we know the Bulls will neither move up, gain picks, or draft a really really exciting all-star potential player. Gar/Pax you f-ing suck camel balls, sweaty acrid camel balls after a 30 days ride in the desert that is.

  • In reply to RoadWarrior:

    To be clear, Yes I did just use acrid, sweaty, and balls in the same sentence that was not interlaced in the dialogue of a sleazy adult novel/blog. Yes, I did.

  • Interesting that we have completely stopped discussing the actual games and the performance of the individual players. God only knows that boozer and Teagues performances have been laughably bad and deserve some serious discussion. In fact as long as those 2 guys stay healthy we clearly have a shot at the #1 pick.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Teague has been lighting it up by his standards, he's managed to edge his PER into the barely positive zone now! At this rate of improvement he'll be an all-star by the time he's 70.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    It's tough to discuss games when you are rooting for lotto balls, getting upset by good performances, rooting for your good players to sit out a few extra week with minor ailments, hoping Marquis Teague and Carlos Boozer play big minutes etc...

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    I'm with you brotha, even though I want us to finish with the worst record in the league, it still tears my guts up watching the pathetic play. My heart still wants to root for individual guys to do well, and my gut still is rooting for us to win, but my mind is telling me that I have to be smart enough to recognize what is best for next year and beyond.

    I certainly wasn't calling out your choice of posting topics, I just find it interesting that everyone seems to have totally given up the thought of discussing the games themselves. After all it is still very early in the season, can we keep up the tank talk all year, especially when the Bulls themselves are not on board the tank train.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Whether the Bulls are looking to tank is still very much up in the air to me. Just because they say they want to re-sign Deng doesn't mean they mean it. Every team is going to say that.

  • In reply to Shakes:

    That's what I'm hoping too. The Bulls front office has always been very circumspect.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    I thought the Bulls played their best game in a while. No single digit scoring quarters, 20 or more points in every quarter. I wonder if Deng played and Butler played the whole game, if they could have almost pulled this one out. Also, I'm wondering if Augustine should be considered for the backup role for next year and going forward.

  • Wow Brook Lopez breaks his foot and is done for the season. If you feel bad about the Bulls only have to look to Brooklyn for true NBA badness. I just hope they have enough left to get above the Bulls, hopefully the fact they're tanking for Atlanta not themselves will do it.

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