Bulls Beat #257 - Harden traded

Bulls Beat #257 - Harden traded

I discuss the James Harden trade, David Stern's retirement, and of course, how the Bulls look as they prepare to open the season.

Bulls Beat #257 - Harden traded

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  • Think we could have got Harden for Benelli and Teague? No, Damn! Probably all the Bulls offered.

  • Houstons GM Morley is the perfect example of a GM who has an owner that's all about improving his basketball team and is not distracted by owning a baseball team that is priority number 1 over his NBA team. So all Bulls fans who even had the slightest dream of the Bulls trading for Harden can forget that one cause its being reported that the Rockets are set to offer him the max deal. Now let's see if Harden wants to play in Houston and signs the deal.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Which he would be crazy not to although he probably won't be playing for a contender for a while now.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    From everything we're hearing, HOU wants to sign Harden for the money he wanted, and well...Harden wants his money.

    He might not be playing for a title contender for a while, but going home to the piles of cash will comfort that loss.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Hey, Noah hater Reese 1, you and that slimy crowd that includes Chad, Juiceboxjerry, Defense-Rebound13 and Edward wanted the Bulls to trade Noah (and possibly added pieces) for this bearded fake, James Harden.
    But Harden's team didn't think he was that great and valuable so they didn't give him the money he wanted. He's now in bed with the other Bulls favorite Omer Asik. They'll make a lovely couple and I hope they suck there.
    Thank God that Uncle Jerry Reinsdorf doesn't take lunatics on the two Bulls blogs seriously.

  • In reply to SlamDunk:

    Why is harden a bearded fake?

  • In reply to PaBullfan:

    I know them when I see them! He's not what people like you feel he is. He's an OK player but not what people like you pretend he is. You're quick to annoint him, while saving your venum for Joakim Noah! Only in Chicago you'll see such madness!

  • In reply to SlamDunk:

    Im sorry but you should never assume that I dont like Noah and want the Bulls to trade him, you have me confused with the other posters you named in your rant towards me that made you look like an complete ASS. Noah just so happens to be one of my favorite players, so next time get your facts correct before you start to rant at me you IDIOT!!!

  • I would of been happy if the Bulls were a third party and netted Jeremy Lamb but thats just not how they work. They love to keep their assets and watch them walk for nothing.......brilliant ! is Ben Wallace at 40 years old available in 2014 free agent bananza?

  • In reply to Defense-Rebound13:

    Bulls didn't have any assets (funny how that happens when you decide to let your soon to be FA test FA and then let them walk for nothing...Taj Gibson soon?).

  • Should the Bulls trade Deng at the trade deadline?

  • In reply to YouBlewwIt:

    They need to trade Deng by the 2013 draft if they have no intention of resigning him, he's too valuable to just let expire. Teams like the raptors and others are dying to make the playoffs and a savy veteran like Deng is just what they need(they would give up a mid-lottery for him). The GarPax comedy show has to be sharp like OKC front office and make moves right away. The Deng and Gibson situations will tell us all we need to know about this incompetent duo.

  • In reply to YouBlewwIt:

    Just my opinion, but I think if they were looking in that direction they would have traded him this summer. Unless the Bulls are 20 games below .500 and they think the season is done, I think they keep him around and try to resign him later.

  • Definitely the most interesting podast since last season, nice work.

    I don't think we can compare to the Bulls FO to Morey in Houston. The Bulls have legit pieces and a potential all-time great. They aren't able to make the kinds of out-of-the-blue splash-moves that Morey is because they've got much more to lose.

    As for Harden, the biggest worry to my mind is that over the next two years Houston becomes a serious destination for marquee free agents. More on that here:

    http://shaqhaqs.tumblr.com/post/34510912010/h-ardent-speculation

  • In reply to bzoooty:

    HOU will have about $15mil in cap space next year...enough to get another max talent.

  • In reply to bzoooty:

    I think it ( Houston being a free agent destination) will depend a lot on how good Lin, Omer, and White can play. If they pan out, then they will be a really good team. If not, they will be just another below average team with one good player (Harden) spending money on so-so talent.
    Agree on the front office comment.

  • On the Harden thing, I've been saying it for a while now that someone will overpay him. He is a very good player, but in my mind not a max player. He dissapears way to much to be a max player. I think his role in OKC was great for him, being the second or third option. I think he will struggle as the #1 option. Would have looked good next to Rose, but not at the price he was asking for. As for OKC, I think they will be just fine. I don't know if Thabo will like the move, but I think Lamb can be just as impactful as Harden and they will be deeper now too.

  • In reply to PaBullfan:

    He disappeared once, in the Finals, against the Heat.

    I'm pretty sure there was a guy who disappeared 2 years ago in the Finals, and he came back strong.

    Is Harden a superstar? No, but he is a star. And stars get overpaid, because that's the system they're in.

    I don't know how much deeper they can be. Kmart will get the bulk of the bench minutes. Lamb probably won't get any playing time unless Kmart gets injured (as he often does).

  • OKC going cheap really ... yes they're small market but they've still been making profits while they've had all these cheap rookie deals now they wont invest that back into the team and try to push on for a championship. Not as bad as the Bulls but if I was a fan I'd still be pretty disappointed.

    Still if that was the hand Presti was dealt from the owners I love the way he handled it, either get Harden on a below market deal or send him out and get as good a return as they could for him. To me that's the relevant bit the Bulls fans should be taking note of. Discussion of whether the Bulls could have gotten Harden is laughable. What the real talk should be is why the Bulls wont take that sort of approach with Taj. They need similarly decisive management here: either get him extended on the Bulls terms or trade him now.

  • Per CHI Tribune:

    Talks between the Bulls and Mark Bartelstein, Gibson's Chicago-based agent, continue. Sources said the roughly $8 million gap over four years isn't atypical for this stage of negotiations. Gibson has said he wants to remain with the Bulls long term. He got a reminder of what chasing the final dollar can do on Saturday, when the Thunder traded James Harden to the Rockets.
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    Apparently Taj wants 4yrs $40mil and CHI is only willing to give 4yrs $32mil. I'm a Bulls fan, but if I'm Taj, I take my chances in FA.

  • In reply to YouBlewwIt:

    If Taj is greedy, Reinsdorf will let find another buyer. Seems he's overvaluing himself. The guy Isn't even a starter and has holes in his game, e.g. fix his iron hands.

  • In reply to YouBlewwIt:

    doesn't surprise me, his agent bartelstein wanted 10-9 million a year for bonehead Nick Young. I knew this wasn't going to end up well and that is why I wanted the bulls to get another young powerforward for next year's second round pick like Jujuan Johnson who can shoot the midrange, is actually taller at 6'10" and not a bad defender. I like Taj but he wants starters money and the Bulls can't waffle around, they should look to trade him at the deadline. The league has been swamped with many young powerfowards the last few years, he's not like Omer Asik since the center position is weak in the NBA. Taj is worth 8 million a year, his offense kind of sucks so anything more is ridiculous.

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