I've been getting a ton of similar questions on twitter, so I will attempt to answer them all here.
@Jermando: J-rich is overrated. Rip is better defensively and more clever on offense.
I will disagree. At 34, I'm not sure Rip is better defensively, in fact, I feel comfortable saying he's not. I'm also not sure that he's more clever offensively. Richardson can create his own shot better, and he can shoot better from beyond the arc. Hamilton scores mostly through plays run for him which can stall the offense if they don't work.
One potential big advantage Rip brings to the table is that he's a high motion off the ball player. Deng can play in a similar way, and the combination might put tremendous pressure on defenses to continually move to keep track of their man. That havoc might create seams for Rose or openings for Deng/Hamilton.
It will take some offensive creativity to get the most out of that combination of perimeter players, but the potential is high with two off the ball movers and Derrick Rose on the ball. It'd be easier to create an offense with Richardson who's a greater threat to space the floor by merely standing outside the arc, but Rip might create similar openings if used correctly.
@regimeofterror ben gordon as our jason terry? He might become available
I think he could be if we acquired him, but I'm near certain this isn't happening. Gordon and management didn't have a good relationship, and he's paid heavily. If we're scared to go MLE for Richardson the odds of going after Gordon are near zero.
@Bulls_101 Based on what he signed in Orl., you think J-Rich takes MLE if Bulls offer?
I think he would have, and I've had multiple people inside the league tell me the same thing, however these people weren't necessarily privy to Richardson's thoughts, just people who are deep in the NBA.
However, look at the evidence:
1: Jason Richardson doesn't sign with Orlando until after the Bulls come to a handshake agreement with RIP.
2: He signs at barely over the MLE.
3: He's previously said he'd play for less to be on a contender
4: The Bulls never offered him the full MLE.
Add those things up, and it seems highly likely that Richardson was merely waiting for us to offer him the full MLE which we likely debating heavily about doing, but then when the possibility to add Hamilton for less emerged, we took it.
@Raven1908 Bulls never offer MLE to JRich...could be tax, could be don't view him as worth it. Anyone else offer it to him? Nope.
Did anyone else offer him the MLE? No. Did someone else offer him more than the MLE? Yes. Not sure what your point is there. Someone else thought he was worth more than the MLE.
I think part of the problem is these decisions aren't made in a vacuum. What a player is worth is highly dependent on the situation. Is Tyson Chandler or Nene getting as much as they are now if the market isn't flooded with teams with cap room? Definitely not.
If the Bulls weren't deep in salary with other players, then I think the Bulls would have definitely take him. I think he's worth a full MLE, it's just that the Bulls know they have tough decisions coming in a couple of years and the gap between Richardson and Hamilton wasn't big enough to take Richardson given that the two year commitment to Hamilton falls off prior to the supertax year.
My believe is that management likes Richardson more, just not a lot more. Of course, they'll never admit it, so we'll never know for sure. Maybe they do genuinely prefer Rip.
@jbizzlebizzle Is Rip deal for vet min, or did we offer him part of our MLE?
2 year full MLE is the rumor. Nothing is done yet as Rip hasn't cleared waivers yet.
@bxxg23 Is it bad that I have unequivocal faith in Gar? He's made all the right moves since taking the reins. (Oy, Boozer
No, I think John and Gar have done a very good job overall. I think they do an excellent job of maximizing their leverage on the small deals especially in trades where they make moves to get minor upgrades in talent and improve salary at the same time.
I think there are real limits placed on them in terms of the tax, so they'll have challenges to work underneath that threshold that I don't think Miami, New York, or L.A. will face.
@jbizzlebizzle Do you think Noah/Butler/Bobcats pick future Bulls pick for D12 is better than LAL or NJ deals?
Depends what they offer. IF L.A. goes Gasol + Bynum for Howard + Hedo then I think the Bulls are out of it.
@CalvinAndHobo So the only difference is the extra 2 years? Are you sure that's why they said no? Could they just wrongly think Rip is better?
That is what KC Johnson has reported. I don't have direct knowledge of what the Bulls have or have not offered, but there's no reason to doubt K.C. in this case as he's almost certainly getting the information directly from Gar Forman.
@bxxg23 I think the Bulls could have taken out Miami with the same roster plus Gordon.
I agree, but I doubt management feels that way, their opinion on Gordon doesn't match mine or yours.
@ReyAlmighty do you think Bulls have a legit shot at Howard? I agree you do it even without commitment...
I doubt it. I think Gasol + Bynum trumps our offer easily. The Magic might be just as good with those two as they were with Howard. Of course, LA might not offer it.
@Dr_realdeal JRich skill set based more on athleticism which is fading Rip based more on skill coming off of screens and shooting Better fit?
I don't know, shooting isn't really athletically based, and Richardson is a better shooter. I do agree that his ability to create will fade to an extent though.
@RonnieCabrera85 it could be a sign and trade with howard included
(re: Richardson in a Howard trade) Once the signing is official that can't happen. The signing will be made official well before Howard is traded [if it isn't already].
@EdemKojo u really co-sign on breaking up a perennial ECF team for the shot at a D12 who may not resign? IDK about that one.
@EdemKojo D12 refuses to sign an extension and ur immediately in the 7/8 slot and getting non lottery picks for years.
@EdemKojo it's easy to be bold as a fan but if ur the GM there's no way you make a move like that.
@EdemKojo to make a football analogy, it's like going for it on 4th down on ur own 30 yd line in a winnable 4th quarter.
Disagree. I think the Bulls could easily keep Howard if they get him, and if they do, then they have a dynasty. I just don't see how you pass on that chance if you have it.
The greater fear, IMO, is that they probably don't have the best offer, and if they don't, then they alienate half the current roster by participating in the bidding. The worst case for Chicago might be that they bid on Howard and fail and then Noah/Deng/Brewer/etc are all pissed off via Lamar Odom at being included in on talks.
@Puertoricotech are the Bulls really in the Race to get Howard? this will work,Noah, boozer and brewer and a pick for howard and turkoglu!
I don't think they're legitimately in it. I think they'll inquire, but I don't think they have the best offer.
@Chi_BULLS_Ftw hey man, just wanna say how great you've been during all of this. You actually respond to fans and we appreciate. It. Good work.
@EdemKojo we fear no one in the West, why would you break up a team that is on the verge of winning in the east with incremental changes?
Because adding a top 3 player in the league makes you a dynasty and incremental changes don't?