Jimmy Butler hanging with Derrick Rose; Mirotic dreams to play in the NBA

Jimmy Butler was hanging out with Derrick Rose his first night in town.   Derrick texted him and asked him to come over, where they joked around and watched the BET Awards.  A move which shows plenty of class by Derrick Rose and shows how Butler is likely to fit in with what the Bulls are trying to do.

In the off-season, we love to over-react to everything, so enjoy the love fest for Derrick going out of his way to bring the new rookie into the fold.  It probably doesn't hurt that one of Jimmy's junior college teammates was best friends with Derrick Rose.

You can catch the full press conference here.

Sherron Shabazz had a nice interview with Butler for the Chicago Examiner which had a great quote.

"He's a good dude. He's just like me for the most part. He just wants to win."

Who said that?   Derrick Rose or Jimmy Butler?   It's so easy to see it coming from either way.

Butler indicated that he would possibly workout with Lazar Hayward and Wesley Matthews up at Marquette, spend some time with IMG, and try to practice and get to know his new teammates during the lockout.

When asked about former Marquette grad Dwyane Wade, he replied that they're both friend and enemy right now, but he intends to shut him down.  It was kind of funny seeing his nervous laugh about it, as if he wanted to say he's friends with Wade, but already knew there was no way that's going to fly here.

Jimmy again mentioned that he's going to look to defend the Lebrons and Wades of the league.

Listening to Butler speak, you can't help but get a little excited about him as a prospect for the Bulls.   He's an athletic, gym rat, high character guy with a nice all around game that's well developed as he's played four years of college ball.

I'm not sure what Butler's ceiling is.   There's a good chance he won't be in the NBA in three years just like there is for any prospects drafted this late, particularly in a draft not known for its strength.    However, I believe that he has the athleticism required to play in the league and the work ethic to improve.

In the press conference, Gar and Tom also praised Mirotic's skillset while Gar discussed him as a lottery pick.   When asked about the rumors surrounding MIrotic not wanting to join the NBA, Gar replied that in his discussions with him, Mirotic indicated it was his dream to play in the NBA one day.

Gar declined to discuss when Mirotic could come over, only saying that he was under contract with Real Madrid and would play there for "awhile".   He reiterated my point though, that Mirotic is playing at one of the highest levels of competition in a major role, so he will be well developed by the time he gets here.

Overall, a fun presser, probably the last one we'll have until after the lockout.

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  • Gotta love the one question asked to Thibs @ Jimmy Butler's press conference about how he felt drafting a player (Mirotic) who may take so long to get to the NBA that Thibs won't be coaching the Bulls anymore! Hilarious!

  • In reply to kayak0109:

    Hilarious, yet a stupid question. With JR's loyalty the way it is, Thibs & Forman will have jobs as long as the want if the team plays the way it did last year.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    The team won't play like it did last year forever though.

    Forman will probably be around as long as he wants.

    I know some fans will disagree, but objectively speaking:
    1: He's very good. If you score the Bulls record objectively vs other teams, it's outstanding. The Bulls actually operate similarly to a small market team and have had good results with the pieces they've had.

    2: He's very loyal and a great PR guy. Forman never goes off and says something stupid or pisses people off. He's very good with the media and an excellent face of the organization.

    3: He's probably on the cheaper side of GMs out there, at least he probably was at one point, not that I'm privy to his salary, but the way he worked up through the organization makes this more likely than not.

    Thibodeau will be around as long as the team is winning and doesn't tune him out, but coaches are destined to be fired before too long unless a dynasty happens.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    The question to ask is except for Rose(which was a lucky gift from the draft gods), would Paxson have done better with Forman at the top now to build this team like it is going?

    1. Would Pax alone let go of Ben Gordon, Tyrus Thomas and Kirk Hinrich?
    2. Sign Thibs.
    3. Not created some new scene/goof-up like he did with Vinny

    We will never know but Forman seems to be a calmer and more calculated personality. Pax seems like someone who is super-calm one minute and is going crazy the next minute.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    They counter each other well.

  • In reply to msalivar:

    they should do good cop/bad cop more often, especially on douches like Vinny

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Vinny wasn't a douche, just incompetent.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    whatever

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    I don't see them struggling or suffering a down year unless Rose gets hurt. Its good to see Forman do the right thing for the team however.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    "an excellent face of the organization."

    Got a good chuckle out of that one. What a beautiful face it is!

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    I think it was the fake Timofey Mozgov blog that described him as "the monster we use to scare small children back home in Russia".

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Actually it was a fake Nets owner interview ... I knew it was some tall Russian dude! ;)

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    The Bulls traded up because of OKC an Dallas an San Antonio. They all wanted him, thats why I think it was a good pick since we all know that Dallas an the Spurs knows their Euro Talent.

    As far as Gar saying, his dream is to be in the NBA, IMO if he put a date on when he would come, an Mirotic didnt come then....the Bulls front office would be looked at as idiots.

  • In reply to Csharp:

    Agreed! Tradeup and secure your targeted player!
    In 2007 Bulls got badly burned thinking Marc Gasol would fall to them at 49, but he was picked by Lakers at 48. OUCH!!!

    Bulls learned their lesson. They did the right thing and made the trade up for both Asik in 2008 and Mirotic in 2011!

  • In reply to Edward:

    +2! When you love a prospect you gotta jump on him ! Pun intended!

  • In reply to Csharp:

    Bulls need to become like OKC, San Antonio, & Dallas; to establish that Euro pipeline

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Ya exactly...not every pick has to be a Euro...but I wouldnt mind using some more picks on them. If you pick the guys playing at a high level, they should be at least nba rotation players, maybe even better. An like the Bulls did this year, there are stock piling talent for the future, hopefully this continues.

    The other good thing about the trade....we moved up 5 spots an all we did was give them our 28th pick and a 2nd rounder lol If thats the case, why dont we trade up more often!

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    I hope Butler can achieve what Wesley Matthews achieved. Prior to the draft, even before Chad Ford's article, a lot of "draftniks" are saying he's as good as Matthews. Too bad, we won't see that this summer because of the lockout

  • In reply to boogernights:

    If Butler can be as good as Wesley Matthews that would be outrageous! Sam Smith just ranked Matthews as the 14th best SG in the entire NBA, ahead of ALL the trade prospects being discussed for Bulls SG acquisition.

    Bulls missed on signing Matthews in 2010 free agency, signing 3 of his Utah teammates instead. But Matthews contract situation was strange. Being undrafted, after playing just one season he became a free agent signing a $34 million 5-year guaranteed contract. Portland signing Matthews looks brilliant now after his second season. But Bulls were reluctant to commit as Matthews had played just one year and Bulls had their "non-guaranteed strategy" to follow.

    Butler's contract situation is entirely different. As the 30th pick he is locked in for 4 years at a very low rookie contract of $900,000. That's more Reinsdorf's style, HaHa.

    If don't know if Butler can become what Wesley Matthews became. It would be unbelievable good fortune for Bulls if he did.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    I read somewhere that Butler has a solid mid-range game but needs to work on his 3pt range. If he's as athletic and as hard a worker as they say - and has a solid bball IQ, he might be able to get decent minutes as Deng's backup. JJ is a great athlete, has great size, works his tail off on the court and by all accounts had a good work ethic, but he often looked clueless under both VDN and Thibs. He wasn't dependable within the team's system. Hopefully Butler can bring the same a attributes and will be able to figure out the system right away. And if he's really smart, he'll find a shooting coach and start working on that 3pt shot. If he can grow into a Bruce Bowen or Shane Battier type with strong defense and solid 3pt shot, he could be a real steal for the Bulls.

  • In reply to magestew:

    Yes, Jimmy Butler shot 34.5% from the NCAA 3pt last season. That's decent, not great, but decent. So he has something to work with its not like he has zero outside shot.

    I'm hoping Butler's former Marquette teammate Wesley Matthews tutors him over the lockout. Matthews shot 40.7% from 3pt as Portland's starting SG last season.

  • In reply to Edward:

    He also shoots well from the stripe, which tends to be a good indicator for being able to stretch range. Especially on spot up shots.

  • In reply to msalivar:

    Yes, 78% FT. I'm cautiously optimistic...

  • In reply to msalivar:

    For a draft regarded as pretty weak overall the Bulls acquisitions have met with overwhelming approval/acceptance of the Bulls fans/regulars on this site. When there's such an overriding consensus I think that speaks to the veracity of the conclusion/sentiment.

    However I will say I didn't see much conviction on Gar's face when he stated Nikola, "Dreams of One Day playing in the NBA." One day. He just signed a contract for four years in April. I just wonder how far Mirotic would have fallen with that in mind. The Bulls felt they had to trade up to 23 as OKC was supposedly interested..?

    My only concern is if a solid character guy who scores mid range/away from the basket on 20 plus points a game on 49% field goal percentage as an elite athletic big contirubutes significantly to Boston next year in JuJuan Johnson. A lot of people around here/Chicago were very interested in JuJuan, and thought the Bulls would take him. If he is a good to very good player in the next couple of years and contributes decently next year I'll be dissapointed. Maybe we pick him at 23, and still get Nikola at 30..? OKC liked Reggie Jackson, and I'm not convicned with the prohibitive contract of Mirotic he wouldn't have fallen to 30. But I will say other then that it was probably a very good move. Nikola looks like he might be anywhere from a solid rotation guy to very good player. And his character/presence to me looks good too. And I also like the Jimmy Butler pick a lot. I think he's more athletically talented then given credit for, and has something to offer offensively. If he's as good as there saying defensively then he's definitely a good pick.

  • I love DRose! Classy guy! Looks like him and Jimmy are gym rats! :-)
    We should have gone hard after Wesley Matthews since we have a Jazz east over here! :-)

    Would you say Jimmy is like Ronnie Brewer and mostly defensive or do you think he slashes well and is both defensive and offensive like Luol? I hear him compared to a faster Luol. :-)

  • In reply to smiley:

    I'd say he has a long way to go in terms of proving himself offensively, and I doubt he'll ever be the player Deng is.

  • In reply to smiley:

    Agreed! Bulls signed 3 Utah Jazz players in 2010 free agency, but missed on the best one - Wesley Matthews.

    We could have had our starting SG for cap space. Sam Smith just ranked Matthews as the 14th best SG in the entire NBA - ahead of Afflalo, Mayo, Courtney Lee, Jamal Crawford. http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/smith_110627.html

    At the time, I think Bulls didn't want to give a 5-year guaranteed contract and $34 million seemed a HUGE price for an undrafted player. But Matthews contract looks cheap one year later, and his team Portland just dumped SG Rudy Fernandez.

    My hope is Jimmy Butler shows the shows the NBA they underrated him just like undrafted Wesley Matthews did.

  • In reply to Edward:

    Speaking of FA SG, whatever happened to the rumors that the Bulls would be working out Azubuike this summer?

  • In reply to Edward:

    or like Taj Gibdon did

  • I hope Jimmy Butler turns out to be like a Bruce Bowen/Shane Battier type at the minimum. He seems to be a heady young man but hopefully the new money/fame doesn't make him have a letdown.

    About Rose...he has changed the whole demeanor of the Bulls organization. When Indiana trades for George Hill, they talk about him how he can defend Rose. D'Antoni talks about his new draft pick being able to defend Rose. He is basically giving nightmares to all other coaches/front offices around the league. Look for every team trying to develop/draft Rose stoppers...we are as lucky as we can get as Bulls fans.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    I hope he locks himself into a sweaty old gym this summer & jacks up 1,000 3 pointers a day minimum.

    Agree about Rose & being lucky, but memo to the Pacers & anyone else that thinks they can stop him: Good luck

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    I'm really exited about our two picks. Butler seems like he can become Luol's cheap back up for the next 4 years. Great mentality, ready to contribute, makes Brewer expendable in a deal for starting SG.
    Mirotic could come over just in time before we'll have to extend Taj and be ready to contribute. This guy could be the perfect complement to Noah/Boozer/Rose. I'm probably drinking to much cool-aid here, but I believe he could put us over the top.
    Too bad this lockout could ruin this season...

  • In reply to OnePointSeven:

    in the few minutes of actual game tape that I've seen Mirotic has a great stroke and a super quick release. He looks like a natural born scorer/shooter, right up there with Korver.

    While everything about the Butler story sounds great, the single best thing about him is that he sounds like a guy who should take Bogans roster spot.

  • Last season, LeBron wouldn't even pickup his own mother from the Police Station. He had an employee of the Heat do it.

  • In reply to Edward:

    f'in big shots

  • In reply to Edward:

    He probably figured Delonte West would do it.

  • while I applaud the move & hope he does it in the future as well, his best friend did play ball with him at Tyler JuCo

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