Hinrich likely out for Bulls series; Watson tweets Rose wins MVP; Boozer's MRI shows turf toe

The biggest news to break today is that Kirk Hinrich is listed as doubtful for the Hawks/Bulls series.   The Hawks had little chance prior to Kirk getting hurt, and now that they'll be calling on Jamal Crawford or Jeff Teague to play 100% of their PG minutes things are about to get really ugly.

Quite simply, Hinrich's the best option they have defensively at PG, and though he's streaky, he can also space the floor with his shooting some or punish you for leaving him open with some regularity.

The problem goes beyond Hinrich's individual ability though

The Hawks have very little depth.  Take a look at their roster.  Joe Johnson and Al Horford are high caliber players. Josh Smith and Jamal Crawford are solid players.   Marvin Williams and Zaza Puchulia are rotation caliber guys.   Everyone else is more or less a steaming pile of crap (remember if clicking on the BR link that Bibby, Evans, and Jordan Crawford are all gone).

When you basically only have 7 guys who legitimately belong in a rotation, and you lose one who can play 30 minutes a night, it hurts a lot, even when that guy isn't one of your key players.

Did CJ hijack the secret envelope?

CJ Watson tweeted a congratulatory note about DRose winning the MVP.  
Anyone shocked?   No.   Does CJ know this is official already?   I
wouldn't think the league would have told Rose yet, but I can't imagine
CJ knowing without Rose knowing.   Whether CJ is scooping us the real
story or just making some obvious assumptions I suppose we can't be

Traditionally the MVP would be announced the day before game 1 or 2 of the second round of the MVPs team with a presentation the next day.

Boozer's got turf toe and that's no good

Per KC Johnson's twitter:

Boozer underwent an MRI that showed symptoms consistent with turf toe, a
painful condition involving stretched ligaments. He's day-to-day.

Hopefully Boozer's able to rest up quickly.   The Bulls likely won't really need him until the ECF, but I feel nervous enough about him playing badly in round 1.  I really don't want him to miss time or struggle even more in round 2.  He needs to get his game together.


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  • In an odd anomoly, no 1st round series went 7 games. Usually see at least 1. When was the last time this happened? Consequently the only game we get over the weekend is Miami-Boston which tips off the 2nd round.

    And then there were 8...

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    I don't think it's that odd, but yeah, you usually figure someone goes 7.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    you don't think its odd that the WWE, I mean NBA, has 1 game over a weekend?

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Doesn't Memphis/OKC start Sunday also?

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    Yes, Memphis/OKC does start on Sunday.
    Is Memphis is getting jobbed with only 1 day off between the 1st and 2nd round? Both Lakers and Dallas will have 3 days off (Fri/Sat/Sun) when they play on Monday.

    IMO, the Memphis/OKC and Lakers/Dallas series should be flipped with Lakers/Dalas playing Sunday. However, Memphis/OKC do have 3 days off between games 2 and 3 of this 2nd round.

    IMO, the Memphis/OKC and Lakers/Dallas series should be flipped with Lakers/Dalas playing Sunday.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    ZBO is a monster...unreal soft touch around the rim. He has been great.

    Tony Allen would not come to Chicago....anybody else remember the people that were going after him? He didnt even travel to Chicago a game or 2 when he was with Boston because he didnt know what was going to happen. Chicago guy but also a crazyiness to him.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Looks like the press is bailing out Boozer already. Blame the turf toe for bad Boozer (or no Boozer) against Atlanta. Didn't Derrick Rose had turf toe this season? It was supposed to be something for his entire career. He is playing... Taj recently was also diagnose with turf toe. I don't see him complaining. Weak Boozer out, and it is ok.

  • It is strange we keep saying we don't need Boozer for this series and we can rationalize we don't need him for Boston or Miami either because of the length of Garnett and Bosh. And, he always struggles with the length of the Lakers. So we really don't need Boozer at all for any series as we didn't use him much for Indiana either.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Then what to make of "he commands a double-team and creates more room offensively for Derrick and others", even when he's not scoring? Is it true, and if so, is it worth more than his defensive lapses have cost? Bottom line question...

  • In reply to petert23:

    Simple answer is it did when he was putting up 20 a game, it's not when he's putting up 2 a game. If he's not healthy enough to play well the Bulls have enough depth that they're better off without him.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    in all fairness he averaged over 10 a game

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    2 has more symmetry with 20 for hyperbole purposes.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Ten turnovers?

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Just watched Memphis elimanate the Spurs.

    Never thought that I would say this about this guy, but if the Bulls had Zack Randolph they would win the title this year.

    The guy is at best 6'9 and has the body of the Pillsbury doughboy, can't jump an inch and still is a legitimate/dominant/go to low post scorer. Don't know how he does it, but maybe Boozer can take some lessons, length doesn't seem to bother him or turf toe either.

    Also, Tony Allen is Rodman/Artest crazy, but he is one ornery lock down defender, maybe the best in the league which is why I wanted the bulls to go after him this past offseason rather than Boagans.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Boozer is just an undersized power forward who in the next couple of years will be on the downside of his career with the soft injuries he always seem to obtain. Bulls if not this summer next off season need to get rid of him before he turns into another Ben Wallace. Do we as fans want to go through that again... I THINK NOT!!

  • In reply to Reese1:

    i don't see which team will be enough stupid to deal for boozer !! he worths 16 million a season but he is playing like a 3 million PF !!

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Boozer isn't a bad attitude guy. The Bulls only need to get rid of him if they can get more talent back or if Reinsdorf goes really cheap while trying to win a title.

    Reinsdorf's pledged not to go really cheap if he feels the team can win and he publicly said the team is in position to win, so as unlikely as it seems, we have to take him at his word.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    If kirk Hinrich is out. Bulls will eat Hawks alive. But I wanted Kirk to there because it would have shut Skip Bayless up !! He said that all the bulls has done until now is because of luck. He is silly !!

  • In reply to deewaves:

    guys I'm getting tired of your complaining about the skip

  • In reply to deewaves:

    I wouldn't count the Hawks out. Almost everyone predicted a clean sweep of the Pacers and with the exception of game 5 Indiana took us to the wire every game. Now bring on the Hawks who just upset the Magic and are a playoff veteran team. It would be crazy to under-estimate them.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Zach Randolph is the latest of the contract year all stars. I don't have a lot of sympathy for the owners in the CBA negotiations in general, but shorter contracts is certainly something I hope they win on.

    Still it is funny the Knicks dumped Randolph to open the cap space they ended up using on Amare and Randolph outplayed Amare this year.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    If you make a list of all the good players the Knicks have traded to get their "Big 3", it is amazing. The Knicks fans better hope that Amare and Melo will bust out next year before Amare gets injured or not have 1st round/2nd round exits.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Don't you just love it when your next opponent's fan think they have no chance either

    I am even more confident for the series win than against the Pacers (even with Kirk playing) though it would be beneficial to get Booz back on court asap to get his confidence back. As Bigway says Z-Bo proves you don't have to be able to jump if you have the moves and confidence [Always been a big Z-Bo fan - can you name any other 20-10 guy who gets so little respect?]

    Good to see the Griz win (yes they did throw the last two games to get the Spurs lol) - the big question though is will Timmy have the desire and knees to comeback next year or will he retire?

  • In reply to Jersey66:

    That's so true about the confidence in winning. Also, speaking of the Hawks...do we think they have got their super-bowl win(beating the Magic) and are due for a letdown mentally?

    I think the main issue with Z-Bo was if he put these numbers in a team winning context...it was always against lousy opponents or when it didn't matter. I think we have to credit the Memphis coach for bonding them and Z-Bo is older now..so maybe he understood this is his last chance for redemption.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Also a contract year for him. I would bet that Z-Bo has a lot of issues in the next four years after signing his monster extension.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    I don't know what he's done in his recent past to make you suggest that he'd have a lot of issues. Also, he's been payed big before right?

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    You realize that Randolph just a year ago was accused of being a major drug supplier in an interstate drug ring right?

    There were a lot of questions of whether he'd be in jail this year or be able to play.

    The Grizzlies also played their best ball once Randolph was the clear cut number one option and weren't playing near as well while Gay was around which would lead one to wonder whether Randolph can play in a team environment as a #2 option.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Ok, nevermind that you're convicting him based on accusation, or that he would do such a thing during his contract year, but to me if they are playing better now with him as "the man", then that says more about Rudy Gay than Randolph.

    Memphis just beat the #1 seed, and thats with Z-bo as the man, already having secured his extension.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Previously when Randolph has put up good scoring numbers it's been on a lot of shots. It's really only since landing in Memphis that he's become an efficient player. Maybe he's worked it out, but history tends to suggest that players regress after getting their contract.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Zach Randolf, another player whom I said earlier this year I would trade Boozer for. Too late for that now since Memphis was smart and re need his contract. I tried to give Boozer the benefit of doubt at the beginning of the season, but seeing how he doesn't play defense and worst of all does not fit with Noah, he just dies bot fit with this Bulls team. I think if the Bulls can get a legit scoring 2 guard so Rose don't have to score as much so he can set Boozer up in the post, maybe then Boozer would be more of some help on offense. Until he can get out of his slump, this will be my opinion of Boozer' s fit with this Bulls team cause its basically why he had so much success playing along side Derron Williams who set Boozer up for the majority of his points. The pick and roll was a big part of the Jazz offense and that's what made Boozer game successful and with Rose having to do a lot of the scoring throws Boozer' s game off imo.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    I still would trade him tho if possible cause of his lack of defense and he just doesn't look like his body will hold up much longer. His minor injuries will eventually break him down and he should be able to adapt to Rose and Noah's game

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Last season before free agency, I watched a Bulls-Utah game knowing Booz was one of the Bulls potential FA targets. I wanted to check out The Booz!

    I came away with the same opinion: Boozer did not create his own shots, but got them out of Sloan

  • In reply to Edward:

    http://www.82games.com/0910/09UTA12.HTM is the page you want.

    Boozer was assisted on 74% of his shots last year.

    For comparison to the other free agents:
    Lee: 64%
    Bosh: 50%
    Amare: 61%

    It's no fluke either, Boozer was assisted on 71% is 07/08. The only year he was in the same range of those other guys was 08/09 when he was assisted on 63% of his shots, but his FG% took a pounding that year.

    I don't know why anyone is surprised that Boozer isn't a low post creator that you just dump the ball in to. The numbers all hinted at him being a system player, I stuck up for David Lee against that accusation precisely because of all the free agents Boozer was the least self sufficient.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Thanks for the great stat! Interesting how a person could see that about Boozer by watching just one game, Bulls-Utah.

    Last night I watched the Memphis-San Antonio game and Zach Randolph looked like he can score on his own. On your website it says he was assisted on 48% of his FGs. That

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    I don't know if we need Boozer to score to win. We just need him to rebound and make the other team THINK he could score. They send the double team, we get open shots. I think that's partly why Thibs puts him on the floor ahead of Gibson.

    He's been offensively rubbish so far but if he doesn't miss quite as many shots and continues to rebound well, we should do okay.

    It's only going to be Chris Bosh guarding him in the ECF anyways.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    We definitely need Boozer in the ECF if we face Miami, and we'll need him to play at a high level, not just hang around.

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