Denver beats the Lakers, improving Bulls magic number vs L.A.

So the Denver Nuggets beat the L.A. Lakers which improved the Bulls magic number to six against L.A.   I watched the game, and the Nuggets displayed a largely gritty performance against the Lakers.  The Boston Celtics managed to beat the Detroit Pistons while the Miami Heat knocked off the New Jersey Nets.  The Spurs eliminated the Phoenix Suns from the playoffs which may take some of the fight out of them for Tuesday's game.

Magic Number update with six games to play

Boston 4
Miami 3
L.A. 5
S.A. 7 (to tie)

The tie breaker for San Antonio works like this.  Unless the Bulls lose to the Suns or Spurs lose to the Hawks (unless they both lose) the teams will finished tied for the final tie breaker rule for home court in the finals.   In that case, home court will be figured out by random draw.

The other magic numbers have the tiebreakers factored in already, as they are set in stone already (Boston owns it against us, we own it against the Lakers and Heat).

The Nuggets kind of remind me of the 04/05 Bulls at their best

They have pieces at every position, but they don't really have a star.   They have plenty of depth though and a great jib and fit together.   The Nuggets are probably better than those Bulls, though those Bulls were much better by the end of the season than their 47 wins.  If you ignored their 4/13 start, they were on pace to win 55 games.

Anyway, I don't want to take the comparison too far, there are huge differences, and the comparison is probably insulting to Nuggets fans.

However, it got me to thinking, what the hell would you do if you ran that Nuggets team?  I guess it's not our problem, but there's only so much you can talk about seeding and how Derrick Rose is going to win the MVP.

The Nuggets play like a true team.   I don't know who's really important on that team and who isn't.   I know you've got Nene (opt out), Kenyon Martin, Aaron Afflalo, J.R. Smith, and Wilson Chandler as free agents this summer though.

Martin probably comes back with a big pay cut if you want him.  Nene probably comes back for similar salary.    J.R. Smith is hard to gauge, he might demand a raise, the same salary, or cost less.

Afflalo and Chandler both will need raises from their rookie deals.   Maybe you can give them enough of a raise from the money you save on Martin to basically break even and bring back everyone.

However, Danilo Galinari need a raise next year while Lawson needs one in two yaers which puts you back over the tax again, and you're left asking yourself, can this team ever really get it done.   They're scrappy and talented, but they have no focal point, no obvious place they can really upgrade their talent, and seemed doomed to peak out as a team that makes it to the 1st or 2nd round each year.

Look at their depth chart:
PG: Felton, Lawson
SG: Smith, Afflalo
SF: Galinari, Chandler, Harrington
PF: Martin, Anderson
C: Nene, Mosgov

Much like a poor man's Bulls team, they have two legitimate starting five lineups together, however, very few of those guys can really swing and play multiple positions effectively.   Which ones can you really afford to jettison, and the ones you'd like to (like Al Harrington) you probably can't.

Just a weird challenge, but I've been watching the Nuggets play a lot, and they're a fun team.   I can't imagine how they could break up the group and end up with something better.   It's almost like all the pieces they got made it harder to rebuild rather than easier, because fans won't accept being bad after seeing how good these guys are.

I'd think I'd probably let go Wilson Chandler and Aaron Afflalo from this group.   I know that most people would probably let go of J.R. Smith, but I think they need Smith's ability to just launch shots with no conscience given the rest of the team's make up while Afflalo strikes me as a guy who fits better next to a legitimate star.

How does all of this affect the Bulls?

Well, presumably, Aaron Afflalo is one of the guys out there that would be highly interesting to the Bulls as a SG this summer.  J.R. Smith might fill the same role for Chicago, and despite Smith's craziness, I'd be okay with the Bulls going after him too.

I think you've got room on your team for one guy who's got a few issues but a lot of talent.   You can typically keep one guy in line with the rest of your locker room quality, and I think the Bulls would have a better shot at that than the Nuggets did, because I trust our locker room a bit more than theirs.

There are plenty of other candidates on the market.   Don't be surprised if Courtney Lee and O.J. Mayo talks are revisited on draft day as well.   I don't really see what the Bulls are going to do with their two draft picks in this draft.  Unless they see a guy who's an absolute gem that's expected to fall, how do they play anyone whom they draft anyway?   

They're at least nine deep next year before the season starts, and they might be ten deep already.   Look for them to maybe go the European route if they can't make a trade, but they'll likely throw down offers like two 1sts + cap room for Courtney Lee or two 1sts + cap room + Keith Bogans non-guaranteed deal for O.J. Mayo. 

They can't trade for Smith or Afflalo on draft night because they're free agents.

Final thoughts

With the season winding down, there's less and less on the line for the Bulls.   Hollinger's playoff odds now put them at a 96% chance to win the #1 seed the rest of the way, and quite frankly, I find it hard to see them losing out on it.   

I think the Bulls win four more games regardless of what Boston does, and quite frankly, I don't give Boston very high odds of winning out (in fact, I give them a near 0% chance of this).    The Heat have a better chance of catching us in record, but since they're a game further back due to tie breakers, I see no chance the Bulls lose four of their next six game.

The Bulls have only lost four of six once this season

@Lakers (no boozer)
@Denver (no Boozer/no Rose)
Orlando (pre trade, Boozer's 1st game back where his defense was eyepoppingly bad because he didn't know the scheme)
@Boston (Boozer's 2nd game back, still didn't really know the defensive scheme)

Under the circumstances those games were played, with injuries, largely on the road, each and every one of those five games is more difficult than any game left on the Bulls schedule.  

Plus, the Bulls, as a team, are playing at a far higher level now than they were back then.  They all understand the team defense now.

Can you really see them losing four of six against Phoenix, Boston, @Cleveland, @Orlando, @New York, New Jersey?

Phoenix just got bounced from the playoffs and is likely demoralized.   Boston's had a hard time beating anyone lately, but they'll play us tough because they likely want to prove something against the good teams and probably don't want to fall behind Miami.  

Cleveland's interest in the season likely ended when they beat the Heat, Orlando will be very tough on the road.   Derrick Rose will take it personally against New York, because they're the only team in the league we haven't beaten,  New Jersey will be out of the playoffs, in their final game on the road, how interested are they really going to be?

The race for the #1 seed is over barring something catastrophic, and if something catastrophic happens, we're probably a lot more panicked about that then losing the 1 seed.

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  • The other big news is Shaq played like 5 minutes before going down with another injury. I don't think Shaq helps much against the Bulls but against the Heat and their complete lack of decent centers he could have been important. Really looks like the Heat will be strong favourites in their second round series with Boston (assuming Boston can beat the 76ers, which doesn't even seem a given anymore).

    The Nuggets really bring an interesting dynamic to the West, the Lakers would have to almost not want the #1 seed, a matchup with the Mavs in the second round is way more appealing than facing the Nuggets or Thunder.

    What Denver does from here really depends on how they go these playoffs I think. If they can get to the conference finals it'll be very hard not to keep the team intact. I don't really see why (other than finances) they can't keep the team in tact and hope to sneak a title like the Pistons did with their team last decade, the top 3 teams in the West are on the decline so if they're as good as they look right now they're a decent shot to make the finals at least once in the next few years and from there anything can happen.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    I can't see Denver getting past the Thunder in the first round.

    Yeah, if they could get to the conference finals you almost have to keep them together, but if they beat the Thunder and Spurs in the playoffs then it becomes a 'no duh' type issue.

    I'm assuming (perhaps incorrectly) that they get bounced by OKC in round one.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    They reported the Shaq thing was a calf and wasn't related to his Achilles, so we'll see. I had already written Shaq off for the year, so his injury isn't a big shock to me.

    I don't think he'd help that much against Miami either, he's simply pretty terrible at this stage of his career.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    He's pretty terrible, but that describes Jermaine O'Neal and Nenad Krstic too. I think Shaq is still the best of the options they had.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Probably, I just don't think he's a difference making option.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Shaq played very well at the beginning of the season. If he could play that well again, he could be a difference maker.

  • In reply to TimS:

    When Shaqs on the floor I would put him in the pick n roll all night loing with Wade & James

  • In reply to TimS:

    But like others have said look how long its taking Jo to get his game back how long do you think it would take Shaq

  • In reply to UtahBullsFan:

    That's true for all the Heat/Celtics fans who have hopes on UD Haslem/O'Neals etc.. It has taken such a long time for Boozer/Noah and they still are not in sync plus they are younger(heal better). They might play well in one or two games/maybe for a few mins. IMO, it is time for Shaq to retire after this playoffs.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    I think Denver trails the Thunder by 2 or 3 games and they have 2 games against them. And, Thunder just can't win against Denver in Denver. Denver can go crazy and can beat anybody because they have the length and pieces. I don't think Denver can beat Lakers but I think they can beat Thunder in round one especially if they have home court.

    And they have JR Smith who isn't scared to take any shot.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Minor correction:

    While Galinari has only one more year left on his deal after this one and thus can work on an extension if Denver chooses, Ty Lawson is a second year first round pick which means he cannot begin to work on an extension until an additional season from now.

  • In reply to WearShades:

    My bad, off by a year on Lawson it gives them a little breathing room, because if he's good, he doesn't require an extension until Felton is off the books.

  • In reply to WearShades:

    Denver is def a poor man's Bulls team.
    Remember DRose bailed us out many times this season, when the buckets were not going for the "mob bench". A STAR is needed to win in this league. Although they are hard to get...
    Believe Denver is a group overachieving with so many guys in contract years. If i was their GM would have 2 questions in mind?
    Shall we rebuild and pass the next 10/15 years trusting luck will knock on our door - or continue to ride a good, entertaining basketball team, keep the arena tickets selling, and maybe have a couple good playoff runs...? To me the answer is obvious.

  • In reply to Hanseatico:

    The problem is that you can quickly end up like the 04/05 Bulls did. Overpaying your whole roster and not winning.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    That is why I'm not the GM and don't have to address those questions :D

  • In reply to Hanseatico:

    IMO denver is scary. they are really good and can bother SA or LA but not having a star will hurt them even if they are enough good and collective.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    The Nuggets have just been playing so well that I think it's possible. I don't think the Thunder or the Spurs are as good as their records (although the Spurs record is quickly being corrected lately!)

    It does become a difficult decision if they lose in the first round, it's really tough with so many players to make decisions on because it's so hard to tell if they're just having a good run or they're really capable of playing like they are for 82 games. I think "when in doubt throw them out" should be the line GMs live by though, so if they lost in the first round I'd tend to look to rebuild by sending whatever they can for picks. Of course it also depends on the owners, they might see being a playoff team as enough so long as the roster doesn't get too expensive.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Interesting that you spent this much time discussing Denver today. I was thinking much the same thing as I watched them beat the Lakers, except that I think that they are this years Bulls without Rose.

    Don't see them beating OKC, but they probably give them a better fight than most expect.

    Also interesting to note how happy all the players and coaches are to be rid of Anthony.

  • Afflalo needs to be next to a superstar...(Rose), even tho I don't look for Denver letting him go cause Smith is too much of an question mark. A lot of Bulls fans wouldn't want Smith on the Bulls but I agree that be would be a great fit on the floor with the Bulls, off the floor is another story. And Memphis has already proved they don't want to deal with the Bulls so I don't know how far a deal for Mayo would go since Memphis might still be interested in a deal for Mcroberts of the Pacers this summer. Bulls IMO probably need to win the remainder of their games while maybe losing one more to clinch the number 1 seed over the Lakers. The next couple weeks should be very interesting.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    I think the Bulls might get lucky out of this situation. If Denver keeps one of Affalo or JR Smith, the Bulls can get the other. I doubt Denver keeps both. About JR Smith, hopefully the guy has matured a little bit by now. Everyone makes mistakes and some guys(not everyone)can learn from it like Noah, Beasley(little bit)...
    They will sign another Bogans like FA who can make some shots when he is open(I think Bogans will be our achilles heel this playoffs)

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    If there's a MLE the Bulls would probably be able to get Smith simply because it's doubtful anyone would be offering above the MLE level the chance to start for a good team is the extra icing on the cake the Bulls can offer. Afflalo is harder because he's restricted.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Doesn't this depend a great deal on what happens with the CBA, if and when it gets done? The Bulls have 60.7 million in salary on the books for next year. How much are they likely to have to sign a SG? A bargain option that might be interesting would be reuniting Rose and Chris Douglas-Roberts? CDR would need to learn to play defense, but he has the height and long arms to be successful. Could he be signed for the same or less as Bogans?

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    I was watching the begging of the VCU and Butler game and the announcer said something that made me think of the Bulls...

    He said VCU is deadly because they run a 10 man rotation (they lost that game but still a good point) so they can come at you full speed for the full game....

    If we meet up with an older team like Boston and to a lesser extent LA this could be what pushes us past them...

  • In reply to UtahBullsFan:

    It's tough to tell what Thibs will do come playoff time, but I agree. He's also pretty stubborn and has had success all season with this rotation so I could see him sticking with what's been working.

    Maybe it's just been matchups, but I've noticed he's played Rose and Watson together in the 4th quarter a little more than in the past. Wonder if that's just matchups or if he's trying things out for some new playoff rotations. No matter what he does, it'll be fun to watch.

  • In reply to kayak0109:

    Ya we have all doubted him throughout the season but who can say that what they would have done with the rotation would give the Bulls 60 wins and the #1 seed. He is a smart guy for sure!

    Another thing I thought of while I was reading your reply is Matchups.

    While our depth might be neutralized a bit the fact that each member our front court has their own set of different skills can be another weapon in that we can create matchup problems and counter what other teams try to do with matchups

  • In reply to UtahBullsFan:

    I definitely agree. The other thing is that every player in that 10 man rotation, except Asik, has either started or played significant minutes off the bench during their careers. Except for Kurt Thomas, no one is at the very end of their career either. For the most part, they're all have energy and are veterans who aren't afraid when they get on the court. Look at Taj, the guy is only in his second year, but he'll be 26 in a few months and started 70 games last year. He's still young, but he's a veteran in my book after starting 70 games as a rookie. You worry as a fan when some teams bench guys go in because they aren't of "starting" quality, but that's never the case with this team.

    That was a jumble of related thoughs, hope it made sense!

  • In reply to kayak0109:

    Against Miami(not to get ahead), I think CJ Watson would be a great bet against Wade. Wade cannot sage of CJ to double Rose. The point about double teaming Rose is you need his defender plus a very good athletic guy for the second defender. You cannot use somebody like Dampier plus Rose's defender. I hope Thibs will use CJ a lot more against Ray Allen and Wade.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Yeah that is very true! The same thing goes for Korver against Allen but not Wade.

    I think Korver would do pretty well against Allen too. Because what you said about doubling Rose and I think Korver would be decent on defense against Allen but Wade would kill him.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Although the odds are clearly in favor of the Bulls holding on to the #1 seed I can absolutely see a scenario where they could lose four out of six. After all, Boston and SA, teams who once had the two best records in the league both have recently experienced losing streaks. I think it is arrogant for Bulls fans to think that somehow this team is immune from the same fate. A bad loss against the Suns can send the team spinning for a while. After all, IMO, it took one of Rose's best complete games ever to hold off a short-handed Raptors team. Without that effort the Bulls go down at home to a weak sister w/o their best player.

  • In reply to hgarbell:

    The Spurs losing streak was the result of a Tim Duncan injury, I noted that the Bulls could have a catastrophic injury which would put them in bad shape, but at that point the injury is scarier than the loss in seeding.

    The Celtics poor play has been due to trading Perkins and the team hating management for it. The Bulls didn't do any such thing.

    Sure, anything could happen, but I think the odds at 96% of the Bulls capturing the one seed are pretty reasonable.

  • In reply to hgarbell:

    Tuesday night is interesting as Bulls and San Antonio both play their last opposing conference game which will determine their tiebreaker. A homecourt clearpath is possible for Bulls

  • In reply to Edward:

    Honestly, I doubt Spurs will even come out of the West. Duncan is really unable to match-up with Bynum/Gasol. He is good 2/5 games. Ginobli and Parker have to go crazy for them to have any chance to beat the Lakers. But there is one thing though...the Spurs will not be intimidated by the Lakers like the Mavericks. I am glad we have the new-age Rodman on our team ...Joakim Noah.

  • In reply to hgarbell:

    I'm just wondering. If Denver somehow won it all, who would their MVP be?

  • In reply to rnohria310:

    Wouldn't it be insane if J.R. Smith won finals MVP? I mean, if Denver won the whole thing, I think Smith would have as good a chance as anyone.

    That said, Denver's not winning the whole thing.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    I feel like Ty Lawson is also an MVP candidate on that team if they did win it. Should be an interesting Western Conference battle again.

  • In reply to rnohria310:

    should they give the MVP to Melo for getting them all the players in the trade from new york? Lol jk.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    "that said, Denver's not winning the whole thing" lol.that's funny.

    I think their MVP is felton.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Smith comes off the bench, I just don't see how it would be possible for people to vote for him. Nene would be my guess.

    I'd say their chances of winning the whole thing is certainly high enough that I wouldn't say "they're not winning the whole thing". I think 80-90% of the odds are tied up in the Bulls/Lakers/Heat trio, but I'd have Denver as first of the dark horses.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    I mean the knock on them is they don't have a star but their offense is the best in the league, why do they need a star? Their defense has been elite since the trade too. To me the only question mark is whether this is just a hot streak. If the team can play like they have for the rest of the season then the Nuggets are legit, star or not.

  • In reply to hgarbell:

    Anyone hear anything about Bynum's injury last night? He never returned to the game, wasn't sure if it was just precautionary or if he hurt his knee again. That would be a big loss for LA going into the playoffs.

    Wade also bruised his thigh or something like that last night. Played the 2nd half but obviously wasn't 100% from what I've read. Curious to see if it's better after a day of rest or if this lingers into the playoffs for him.

  • In reply to kayak0109:

    It seems like the injury bug is going around alot! hopefully we have already had our fair share and it leaves us alone knock on wood

  • In reply to kayak0109:

    A side note by the end of the season for Rose to average 8 apg he has to dish a total of 54 dimes! I think he can do it thats 9 apg over the last 6

    A 25 and 8 season would be awesome for Rose..

    Also if we get a legit 2 guard next year I can see Rose averaging the 10 apg then everyone can shut up about him not being a real PG.

  • In reply to UtahBullsFan:

    People can make whatever case they want about Rose being a PG or a SG or whatever, I know he's a bad ass who cares about winning more than individual accolades and that's all I care about.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Yeah your are absolutely right! It'll be interesting to see who has better individual accolades and who has more rings between Rose and Lebron

    Lebron is the best player in the league but Rose is arguably the #2 but IMO Roses attitude and mindset make up for the talent difference

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Rose confirms that sentiment (twice v. Raptors) every time he shoots a buzzer beater from 80 feet. He wants to win the title and not the best efficiency award.

  • In reply to adocarbog:

    I would like to see Roses numbers factoring out those shots..

    Lebron is amazing at that 80 foot shot though

  • In reply to UtahBullsFan:

    some guy did it in KC Johnson's mailbag last week. He used any shot over 33 feet as the criteria. His homework showed only 19 desperation shots taken, which factored out would give him about a 2% increase. 19 seemed a little low to me.

    But yeah, those shots really prove he doesn't care about numbers. Who else shoots that many. Its funny, I started to notice something, some guys intentionally wait til the buzzer sounds then let one fly right after just to give the impression that they tried it.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    taken from the Tribune:

    So a regular questioner emailed a couple weeks ago to ask how many of Derrick Rose's 3-point attempts have been desperation heaves at ends of quarters and how good his 3-point percentage would be if he hadn't taken them. I responded privately by saying it was a great question, but the only way to determine that would be to comb through the play-by-play of every box score from this season and I had more pressing things to do like a) impaling myself with sharp objects; b) arranging my sock drawer and c) oh, I don't know, saying hi to my kids.

    So this dude, name of Kris Konrath, sends me this email Wednesday: "OK, I did it. I looked up the shot charts of every game and counted how many desperation 3s Rose took this year so far. I count a desperation 3 as a 33-foot or more shot at the end of a quarter. By my count, he has taken 19 and I cite them all below."

    Um. Wow.

    Konrath goes on to detail how Rose's 3-point percentage would be 35.2 percent instead of 33.2 percent if he didn't take these shots and his overall shooting percentage would be 44.3 percent instead of 43.8 percent.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    That's awesome! I love that...who cares what position he plays or about his stats cause all that matters is that he's a bad ass who only cares about winning! Great stuff!

  • In reply to kayak0109:

    They should sell D Rose jerseys that instead of saying "Rose" on the back, it should say "Bad Ass"!

  • In reply to kayak0109:

    I'd buy one. Someone print some up, maybe T-shirt style

  • In reply to kayak0109:

    I would be pretty cool if the Bulls had homecourt throughout clinched with 1 game to go, but that would save their starters only 1 days rest as the last 2 games are back2backs. Still, it would be nice to rest on the 2nd of a back2back

  • In reply to kayak0109:

    Not sure if anyone saw the quote on ESPN.com earlier, but for the most part, it stated that the Heat would have to battle complacency the remainder of the season, since they face so many also-rans. LBJ was the Heat player that chimed in to this effect.

    That is why LBJ should not win the MVP, and why I can't take the Heat seriously as a title contender. Really, the #1 seed is still a tangible goal, and you're talking about complacency?

    Shameful. Really, I honestly think I had more respect for the Bad Boy Pistons than I do the Miami Massengills.

  • In reply to kayak0109:

    Especially because you'd be the #1 bad ass if you had bad ass on a Rose jersey.

  • In reply to kayak0109:

    how about a picture of a rose for either the number 1 or instead of the name?

  • In reply to kayak0109:

    Yeah I thought that was awesome too Doug. Great way to put it.

    At the end of the Derrick, Derrick doesn't care what you say about him as long as you call him the champ.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    well said. we don't care about him being 1 or 2. He is the MVP, it stops there. People are locked with the traditional definition of a PG. Of course Rose hasn't a same game style as stockton, magic or chris paul but he make his team win even more than them. That's what count ! Fast don't lie baby, Rose for MVP !!

  • In reply to kayak0109:

    The Bynum thing didn't look serious to me watching it, but who knows.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    anytime a 7 footers with a history of knee problems leaves a game because of knee problems it is a problem.

    For the Lakers it is an all or nothing problem, they are not winning a title without him, and are nearly unbeatable with him healthy.

  • In reply to hgarbell:

    4 out of 6? No way. We

  • In reply to Jmax:

    I think we are the only team in the league that hasnt lost more than 2 in a row but I could be wrong

  • In reply to UtahBullsFan:

    we definately at no oint in the season have lost 4/6

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    actually we did, 1 time this year, from November 23rd-December 3rd

    the L's? Lakers (R), Denver (R) (last second Melo shot), Orlando (H), & Boston (R) (both of the last 2 Boozers first games of the year)

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    I checked it and we have not lost 3 in a row this year...

    I am just not positive if we are the only team or not I am pretty sure though

  • In reply to UtahBullsFan:

    sorry, I was referring to my own post that we had not lost 4/6. I think 1 other team has not lost more than 2 in a row, at least as of 2 weeks ago. I think it was OKC

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    i'm wrong again, OKC did in late Feb

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Boston is the other team

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Oh ya you are right

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Doug, another minor correction: The game at San Antonio wasn't part of a stretch of losing 4 of 6. That stretch didn't begin until the Lakers game in LA. Including the Spurs game shifts it to a stretch of losing 5 of 8.

    And I will add my own prediction that the Bulls do get the overall #1 seed. From the head coach, star player, and down through every guy in the rotation, the Bulls are united in their motivation to win every single game -- and even if they lose one (or maybe two) there's still an excellent chance they will get it done. Can't say all of those things about any of the other teams in the race.

  • In reply to petefogarty:

    My bad, I had originally looked at it from 4 out of 7 and there were two stretches, then I rewrote it for 4 out of 6 and must have had the games listed out of order.

  • In reply to petefogarty:

    Why did I think we had 3 first rounders in this upcoming draft? I could have sworn that was the case, but google searching says otherwise.

    I thought we got two picks from Toronto for James Johnson? Was I wrong about that?
    Was I counting the possible Charlotte pick?

    If anyone can tell me if we have a third, I'd appreciate it.

  • In reply to Duke:

    Bulls have their own 1st, Miami

  • In reply to Duke:

    Preseason Bull SG Kyle Weaver is now in the NBA. From Sam Smith:

    Kyle Weaver hooked on with the Jazz on a 10-day deal and coach Tyrone Corbin is hopeful. Said Corbin: "I loved his attitude. He's a hard-worker, a good defensive player. Hopefully, we can get him up to speed." Though it seems the veterans have packed it in, Weaver had 19 points in 30 minutes and was one of three Jazz players in the Sunday loss to the Kings with a plus rating for the game.

  • In reply to Edward:

    too bad he was boning Thibs' mom

  • In reply to Edward:

    he can't even carry Bogans jock, according to thibs.

  • In reply to Duke:

    We do not have a third. We have the Charlotte pick, but it can't come due until next year at the earliest (if Charlotte makes the playoffs).

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Weird. I wonder how I got it in my head that we had another.

    Well, that makes me less optimistic about draft day trades...

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Oh I know I just didnt know where to reply to for my comment....

    OKC and San Antonio I think where the only 2 other teams

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    that's for sure man!

  • In reply to UtahBullsFan:

    Good call on the 2 game losing streak. Looking back at the Bulls' schedule and results, I remembered how we lost the first game to the Thunder and how frustrated I was. Haha. I'm all smiles now.

  • In reply to hgarbell:

    how can we lose against phoenix ? and if we do, i think au contraire it will motivate the bulls to play hard against NY, ORL and BOS. And if they play hard, believe they are winning thoses games.

  • In reply to hgarbell:

    hey guys !! who do u prefer to face in the conference finals ? miami or boston ? For me, i want a remake of 2009 playoffs, bulls-celtics !! it's gonna be a huge clash !

  • In reply to deewaves:

    I'd also prefer a Bulls v. Celtics matchup. The Celtics have been dominating the East for a few years now so it could be a good "changing of the guard" moment/series. It would also mean that Miami lost in the 1st round to the Knicks or 2nd round to Boston which would be fantastic! Imagine the excuses we'd hear from the media (Miami lovers) after an early playoff exit! It would be comical!

  • In reply to kayak0109:

    "which would be fantastic! " lol.
    +100 i see that u hate miami as much as me. NY can beat heat if they play D.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    I can't stand the Heat! NY and Melo seem to always step it up against Heat too.

  • In reply to kayak0109:

    Hey guys im just throwing this out there for people in Chicago...Im looking for a guy that wants to play basketball in a MONDAY night league. Starts tonight..Its just $100 to sign up and if your serious about joining i'll pay $50. We have 6 players currently but we need a 7th. That doesent mean you'll be coming off the bench..your just the 7th guy to sign up. My BBALL credentials are as follows.. All four years of High School (im 22 y/o) Attempted a year of ball at Robert morris University (downtown campus) but was unsuccessful. My teammates can play as well. If your serious about playing and can play a little bit you can email me at shoover21@gmail.com... Doug hope you dont mind but were desperate..lol

  • In reply to hgarbell:

    What you're saying would make sense... if it came from the perspective of someone who hasn't seen the Bulls play this season. We haven't lost 3 straight games once the entire season. I'd hardly call it "arrogant" for one to think it highly improbable for the Bulls to lose 4 out of 6. You say "a bad loss against the Suns can send the team spinning for a while", I mean have you even been watching the Bulls? Virtually every time we are faced with a tough loss we come back with a dominating performance. As far as the Raptors WIN goes, sure they were without Bargnani, but they played a great game, many noted that they looked much more affective without Bargnani, moving the ball fluidly. The fact is the Raptors played one of their best games of the season, yet the win was never in question for the Bulls who were without Noah. The only way the Bulls lose 4 out of 6 is if Rose or maybe Deng goes down to injury, and even then, I think they can pull out 3 games against opponents that have nothing to play for.

    The only thing arrogant around here is the tone you used in your post.

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    If you read my post with your eyes and not your tuchus you will see that I did not think it was probable that the Bulls would lose 4 out of 6. It is certainly possible however. Just ask Spurs and Celtics fans who probably thought they were insulated against a losing streak also. Why do Bulls fans on this board get so angry if someone expresses the least bit of potential criticism of their beloved team. For example, most posters seem to hate Hollinger-except, of course, when he says something that conforms to their own feelings about the team.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    if they go far in the playoffs, i don't see why denver wouldn't keep both. They are playing extremelly well since their trade. Bogans has been playing well since the allstar-break but i also still don'T trust him for the post-season. I wonder if he can knock down 3pt shot under pressure.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Since there aren't a lot of good player in the next draft. I think bulls should trade all their 3 first draft picks for a shooter before the draft if obviously we don't win the championship because i don't see why changing a team who wins.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Bulls have two 1st round picks and one 2nd round pick.
    Bulls have their own 1st.
    Miami

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Smith is best when he's playing a Korver like role as a spot up shooter/three point specialist ... thing is most of the time he wont just accept that role and wants to try to do too much. If we could guarantee he'd play like he has since the trade deadline I'd be fine with him, but it just feels like a contract year end of season surge. I don't have any confidence that will continue into the future.

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