Bulls vs Pacers 7pm on TNT/CSN - It's closing time

The Chicago Bulls and Indiana Pacers have played a physical, grimy style of basketball for four games.   Despite, Frank Vogel's insistence that the Pacers deserve to have swept the series, the Bulls find themselves with a 3-1 lead despite playing a very low level of basketball through the series so far.

Derrick Rose is going to be given a shot of pain killers for his ankle and give it a go tonight in an effort to close out Indiana and get some rest before round 2.

  


This thing shouldn't come down to Derrick Rose's ankle

The short of it is that the Bulls haven't played their game yet.   We haven't seen Carlos Boozer have a quality game.   We haven't seen Luol Deng play up to his level.  Ronnie Brewer's been completely missing in action, and Keith Bogans has shot far beneath the level he has the past 60 games or so.

Quite simply the bulls are due.   I've been saying it for three games now, and credit the Pacers defense for making it tough on the Bulls, but Chicago is still due to eventually breakout of this slump of poor play.

Will we see any lineup changes?

Through three games, we didn't see any major adjustments or shifts in personnel.   That was understandable, because despite playing far beneath their potential, the Bulls won all three games.

Will Thibodeau make some adjustments in scheme or personnel tonight?    Don't count on it.   

Though it was interesting listening to Nick Friedell discuss how Thibodeau was too stubborn to pull Bogans from the starting lineup because he was going to go with what got him there while at the same time he's drastically mixed up the minutes and linupes with the bench.

He's clearly not going with what got him there outside of the 1st/3rd quarter lineups, which happen to be the Bulls most underperforming units in the series.   From the outside looking in, you wonder how coaches get this attached to something which clearly does not work while being extraordinarily willing to shake up what actually is working.

Will we see any play calling changes?

The one change I could see happening tonight is to outlet the ball quicker in the trap to Joakim Noah and having him immediately attack the basket while looking to pass if a defender slides over.   The Bulls had tremendous success with that play at the end of game four.

They may also look to get Boozer involved in the same play as he has more finesse than Noah to finish those situations consistently as well.

Especially if Rose's ankle is an issue, they  may look to get him involved more as a threat than as the primary option.   It will be interesting to see if the Pacers continue to load up on Rose knowing he has the bad ankle or if they make him prove himself by driving to the rack first?

Can we get some shooting in here?

Outside of Kyle Korver 8 of 10 from beyond the arc, the Bulls are shooting the ball horrendously.   They're 23/74 as a team, but guys not named Kyle Korver are combining for a blistering 23% from beyond the arc.

Derrick Rose (5/29 17%) is the biggest culprit.   However, Bogans and Watson have combined for a total of 4/14 to hurt the team as well.   The Pacers are jamming the paint, and the Bulls perimeter shooters need to start knocking down their shots to bust up the Pacers defense.

Outside of Granger, the Pacers lack talent on the perimeter offensively.   The Bulls should get Korver on the floor more because they can easily hide him on defense or get some minutes for C.J. Watson along side Rose to space the floor.   The Bulls could probably run a Rose, Watson, Korver, Deng, Noah lineup without getting killed defensively due to the lack of offensive options on Indiana and then completely bust the Pacers defensive scheme.

I wouldn't want to run it for a long time, but giving something like that a shot in bursts would make the Pacers rethink what they're doing on defense.

Final thoughts

The Bulls should win this game.   They'd better win this game.   They need to win this game.

So far, the Pacers have come out every game with extreme urgency, an urgency the Bulls have not matched until the final few minutes.   The Bulls need to match level of energy and take this one.

Derrick Rose needs the rest.  

I expect this to happen, but I've expected Chicago to wake up and smell the playoffs for four straight games and it hasn't happened yet. 

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  • If they use boozer to beat the Rose trap he will likely drive and clear out with his off arm. Seems to be his go to move these days. I do hope they can put it together tonight because at this point Atlanta might finish their series first and be the ones waiting and resting.

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    I am not sure if he is stupid or has he got away with this push before? And if the refs allowed it before, why are they calling it now?

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    I think the main issue here is that we havent played with any urgency. We havent taken them seriously. We can blow them out. We know this. We need to run the floor, and push the drive. We need to clamp on defense and turn that into offense. Play like champs.

  • In reply to 1096ballenf:

    Now that Noah is healthy, I look forward to him running the floor.

  • "However, Bogans and Watson have combined for a total of 4/14 to hurt the team as well."

    I see what you did there. Bogans is 4-11 (36.5%) and Watson's 0-3 so together they're 4-14. Nice. Also, my boy Luol is a respectable 6-17 (35%) on 3s.

    Loved your line about matching the Pacers' sense of urgency. I know I feel it...sure hope they do.

    Go Bulls!

  • In reply to Nossem:

    Bogans is 1/8 outside of game three, so he's still been a big contributor to the poor shooting. He made up with it for a 3/3 in game 3 which was huge for the team, but overall I'd say it's fair to say he's struggled, no?

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    That said, the biggest problem has been Rose. He's launching craploads of 3s at 17%, and we'd tend to string up any other player who repeatedly did that.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    I was irritated, but that's really the ONLY time I've seen D. Rose jack shots like that. I know he did a Russel Westbrook, but he obviously wasn't comfortable driving, we were down 16 and there WAS a sense of desperation going on. I don't expect to see him do that again.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    We get mad at Bogans because his threes are so wide open, but no, 36.5% is not struggling.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    In the first two games in Chicago the Bulls had a rebounding edge. In game three in Indiana they lost that edge but won with threes. Rebounding is more reliable than shooting, so I would like to see a return to rebounding in game five. And if they rebound well, perhaps they can also run and get some easy baskets? Is that too much to ask?

    Boozer had a quality game 2. Bogans and Deng had quality game 3s. Rose actually played pretty bad in Indiana, so I'm hoping he plays better, and gets the foul calls, at home. If his ankle bothers him, we will need even more rebounding and defense, and just enough offense.

    I would like to see them trap or double Collison and force him to give it up. They could also switch up his defenders.

    They need to force Hibbert outside, and stay attached to Granger and Dunleavy.

    Most of all, though, they need to rebound, rebound, rebound. Box out, get a body on someone, dive when necessary, gang rebound. Get to every loose ball. The Bulls can do this.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    3-point shooters are seldom consistent. Korver was 3-12 in the last 3 games of the regular season. Bogans is 4-11 for the series, or if you prefer, 1-8 outside of a perfect game 3. Booth are fair. Throwing in Watson's 0-3 to Bogans OK shooting wasn't fair IMO. Just as it wouldn't be fair to say that, outside of the Bulls' PGs, the rest of the team is shooting 43% from the arc...it's a true statement, but obscures the fact that it's all Korver.

  • In reply to Nossem:

    No, that's true, the reason I actually lumped the two together initially was because I did quick math in my head and came up with 4/12 = 25% instead of 33% and thought Bogans was probably shooting around 28% from the 3 which was also bad.

    Though, I still think he's shot poorly for the series overall. 36% isn't terrible, but shooting poorly in 3 out of 4 games is. It does depend on how you view it.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    also like you constantly note, his 3s are always wide open, and the D doesn't respect him at all so he provides no spacing for Derrick to operate.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Anyone can mainpulate stats to prove anything they want...9 out of 10 people know that, haha :-)

    We definitely need a good shooting night from the team on a whole, however that works out for the individuals.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    All I can say is, the Bulls need to eliminate this team tonight. The Pacers have played a tough and dirty series but It's time to end this. Focus for 48 minutes, bring the energy that brought the Bulls back in game 4 and they should be moving on to the next round face its looking like as of now ATL.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    I agree Reese1 this series ends tonight! Bring the effort and refuse to lose and rest Rose as much as possible!
    Go Bulls!

  • In reply to Reese1:

    I truly hope the bulls get their act together tonight, because after the first two games of bad-sloppy play you could call it a slump or even early jitters, but now it's been 4 games and it looks like a bit of a trend. It looks like the team's confidence is rattled. Rose only trusts his teammates when he busts his ankle, Boozer's mouth is 100 times bigger than his game, and almost everybody else is terrified to make a play. Thibodeau better have one hell of a pep talk and gameplan for this one... what happened to all those 2nd half beat downs we got used to seeing during the season?

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    Noah has improved. And the Bulls are a young team that plays better at home. They'll take care of business tonight.

  • In reply to TimS:

    Noah's going to go ape shit tonight. His grandfather will be in attendance for the 1st time in Noah's NBA career.

    The last time his grandfather saw him @ Florida:
    37pts 11 boards

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Great stat ChiRy

  • In reply to bullswin60606:

    He spent a great deal of time with grandfather Noah over the summer in Africa. Noted that the experience was very spiritual & motivating for him.

    Gotta love the Noah family. Grandpa a professional soccer player, Yannick tennis, Noah b-ball

  • In reply to bullswin60606:

    This series hasn't been fun to watch, so I'd just as soon have it end after tonight. The game has been mucked up by Indiana's overly physical play -- reminds me of the old Riley Knick/Heat teams. I didn't like watching them play the Bulls either.

    Hard to say whether teams will continue to play the Bulls this way. Assuming Atlanta advances they don't seem like a team that wants to beat you up -- but who knows? They may try it after getting routed by the Bulls the last 2 times the teams have played.

  • In reply to walrus:

    Atlanta has Zaza who seems like a crazier Foster.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Great, another nutcase backup center with nothing to lose. No one said this was going to be easy!

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Bottom line for me is it would just be nice to see a complete team effort and victory one time in round one.

    Let's get it done tonight! Go Bulls!

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    I am hoping for 11 points and 37 rebounds.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    I am hoping for 25 pts and 15 boards

  • In reply to BigWay:

    If the Bulls & Hawks clinched tonight, would their series startin 2-3 days, or are each round scheduled to begin on a predetermined date?

  • In reply to Reese1:

    The Bulls need to play intense D all game long, but offense is going to be the key to this game.

    The Bulls can't settle for jump shots. They must be the aggressors and take the ball fearlessly at the Pacers inside. Other than open 3s for competent 3-point shooters, I don't want to see mid-range jumpers with more than 10 on the clock. I want the Pacers in foul trouble early.

    Enough is enough. As Doug said, it's closing time.

  • In reply to Nossem:

    I'm wondering if the Pacers will break out a zone. With the way the Bulls are shooting from outside, it seems like a natural, at least for spurts.

  • In reply to Nossem:

    I agree, since the first game, defense hasn't been that big an issue. The offense is what has failed the Bulls.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Well, the ppg is good, but we have been getting killed on the offensive boards, at least in Indy, and in points in the paint.

    I don't think the solution to that is to go even smaller. For the most part Indy is beating us with size and athleticism. And Thibs is reacting to that by playing Boozer at center with Taj.

    Even Rose who should have the size advantage over Collison is facing a steady diet of George(who really does look like the second coming of Scottie) and Jones.

    If we just keep Indy of the offensive glass we win going away and are resting right now, even if we only score in the 80's or 90's. The solution to me is more Thomas and Asik, more size and physicality to match the Pacers.

    Maybe more CJ with Rose to lessen the burden on Rose to handle the ball every second. And Deng has to play less than 40 minutes so he isn't so gassed as he has been for at least the last 5 quarters of the series.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Rose's ankle injury might be a blessing in disguise. Hopefully that will make him involve his teammates(I know he is not selfish and tries to involve his teammates). But, he seems to get a little frustrated if his teammates are not doing well and tries to take over a little early. His teammates need to be in some rhythm to help him especially Boozer and Deng.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    I'm not too worried, I think the other guys will step up, especially if the Pacers play physically against Rose with his ankle and all.

    Maybe it's because I've been following the Bulls so closely but not other teams, but shouldn't other teams be WAY more worried than the Bulls, ie Spurs, Lakers?? The Spurs are down 3-1 to the Grizz and Lakers are tied 2-2. Again, maybe I'm just not noticing what other people are saying around the NBA, but I think the Bulls are doing fine (note the word choice of fine, not good/great/etc).

  • In reply to bpmueller:

    Everyone is saying the spurs are finished. In fact people were saying that before the playoffs even started, it's merely being confirmed now. Nobody worries about the lakers, and they're right, because they always seem to have another gear when needed and they never really lack confidence. The bulls are more of an unknown in this regard... and they certainly havent shown anything yet.

  • In reply to bpmueller:

    Well I'm sure if you're a Spurs fan, you are in panic mode right now.

    Magic fans should also be panicking. I doubt Lakers fans are too worried yet, but they should definitely be concerned with how poorly they defend the PG position since they might have to go through Westbrook and Rose in the future.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    they could get a series of Paul/Kidd/Westbrook/Rose, ouch!

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Doubt Jason Kidd scares them much at this point.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    I don't think anyone scares them honestly, but even at this stage of his career, Kidd is a top 10 point guard,no?

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    still always among the leaders in assists & steals, his 3pt avg has dipped to 34% after 3 straight years above 40, and always among the best rebounding PGs. Great free throw shooter. Always heady, always a leader. You don't have to be scared of him, but he is still among the top 1/3 of strarting PGs IMO

    if you were to pick all of the top 4 Williams is probably in over him, but 3/4 with another top 10 is still a daunting task for a team that doesn't defend well at PG

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    they won't get Rose though, Thunder going to the Finals

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Not if Westbrook decides to be the hero and chuck up air balls. I mean I criticise Rose for shooting too many threes but if he had the option of passing to Durant I think I'd go ballistic about it.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    The Thunder have looked pretty damn good. Perkins coming over has unleased the beast defensively in Serge Ibaka, similar to the way KG was free to wreak havok during his Boston prime. Thabo is a lockdown defender, Harden's playing versatile

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    I think the Thunder are great, they're absolutely taking apart a Nuggets team that was one of the hottest teams in the league. They've got a great mix of skills and having Perkins come in is just the piece they needed.

    But I also think Simmons is on the money with his Wire Avon/Stringer comparison for Durant/Westbrook. If they can work out how to co-exist without both wanting to be the alpha dog then that team could be a dynasty. But right now I just don't know whether they'll make the right decisions when under pressure in a big game.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Thats more like it!!

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Noah has come to play tonight.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Judging by how pumped up he is I think someone told Noah that they were going to play the next game in Cleveland.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Grandfather watching him play for the first time ever in the stands. Crazy, his grandfather was a professional soccer player. Crazy genes in that family.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    first time in the NBA

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    This was the best comment of the night.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Anyone get the feeling the Bulls were trying to run up the score on these thugs? They sure hoisted a lot of 3's with a 20+ point lead.

  • In reply to walrus:

    They should have run the score up. I was hoping a "stray" elbow would catch one of the refs on the back of the head, too...but no such luck.

  • In reply to magestew:

    Maybe that elbow could have knocked some sense into them. The refs were just awful. They allowed the Pacers to play like thugs while calling every Bulls touch foul. Only frustrating thing in an otherwise good game for the Bulls.

  • In reply to walrus:

    yes they did and I loved it :)

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    I can't wait to hear Vogel's nasal, whiny ass talk about how they could've won this game if only the refs had blown a few more calls and they'd scored 30 more points.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    how bad can boozer start...another 2 fouls, might be a good thing IMO

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Nice to see that the Pacers get ridiculous calls in their favor even at the United Center.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    time to send the KKK (pacers front line) home

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    really glad i never bought a boozer jersey for myself or my kids. i grown to accept his pathetic defense but not it has spread to his offense. i have been looking for him to pick up those two early fouls just to get him out of the game.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    not = now

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    REFS FUCKIN THIS UP HERE

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    Refs are very inconsistent. And they have Danny Crawford as the ref who is an Indianapolis native

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    Bulls holding it together well with Noah/Boozer on the bench. Probably because Boozer's been a negative anyway.

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    i hope boozer picks up #4 1 minute into the 3rd quarter.

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    he will probably force and miss 3-4 shots before that.

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    It's crazy watching the Pacers defend Korver off the ball.

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    Bulls doing a great job keeping pressure on the Pacers. Everytime Indy comes back, the Bulls score right away to keep the lead around 10.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    was really hoping the lead would keep getting larger but pacers not going away.

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    I might get crucified for this but i'm gonna throw it out there..
    which starting lineup looks better?
    Rose-Bogans-Deng-Boozer-Noah
    Rose-Ben Gordon (Bulls edition)- Deng-Gibson-Noah

    Now i believe even with bogans the second lineup looks better.

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    based on this series the second one for sure

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    how about thibodeau pretends boozer isnt even on the roster?

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    Two beyond absurd charge calls have two of our best players in foul trouble. Screw these asshole refs.

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    at least it hasnt been one-sided but it could make a big difference if one fouls out

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    Well if there was ever a troule point for the Bulls, this is it.

    Refs are absolutely killing us.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    I don't know, they were nice enough to give Boozer his 4th.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Rose needs to hit the weights this summer so his 3 point shot will fall at a better rate next year. He's hitting the front of the rim with a lot of his attemps.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Rose misses on 3s are usually flat, very flat. It's more than just strength, its technique, stroke, rhythm. Rose's makes usually have a nicer arc.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Actually, in one of his interviews about the work that he did on his 3 point shot in the offseason, Rose said that his coach(whoever it was) biggest point of emphasis was to overshoot and make sure to never be short be increasing the loft on his shot.

    When he is off he is almost always short and flat, could be the legs, could be not having his technique down pat yet. See if he fixes that this offseason.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    excuse me guys for being rude but boozer is playing like a shit. He has done nothing but fouls until now. He has brought nothing for the team this series.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    jazz fans are laughing even harder than expected given that he's been even worse thanm he was with them

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    Somehow, I don't think the lottery bound Jazz are laughing too hard at the team in the NBA with the best record.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    i dont think the jazz being in the lottery has much to do with boozer, as does the bulls having the best record in the league

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    5 fouls on Rose, but probably too little too late for Indy.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    why say something like that? you sure like to tempt fate

  • In reply to deewaves:

    at least we still have Taj

  • In reply to deewaves:

    In Thibs I trust

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    One K gone

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    for seeing something in Bogans none of have

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    Well, Well, Well Josh Mac Roberts you ARE a PUNK!!! Did you all see that BS punch he threw?

  • In reply to AlgernonHPenn:

    He came at Noah with both elbows and then he cries because Noah throws his own elbow. What a punk.

  • In reply to walrus:

    What's tyhe worst kind of punk? A Biyatch!!! Hee-Hee!!

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    BULLs stomping on some Pacer head!!! Up by 19!!!

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    Pacers finally get a flagrant called. Thanks for waiting until the Bulls had an insurmountable lead in the final game of the series to get the call right.

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    The BULLS stomping on some Pacer head!!! Up by 19!!!

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    The BULLS stomping on some Pacer head!!! Up by 19!!!

  • In reply to AlgernonHPenn:

    you really liked that comment lol you can put it in bold rather than post it three times lol j/k

  • In reply to AlgernonHPenn:

    Did Korver and Bogans switch bodies before this one?

  • In reply to AlgernonHPenn:

    as long as boozer stays glued to the bench this one's over

  • In reply to AlgernonHPenn:

    Yep, they were due.

    Now bring in those dirty birdies or the illusions. Personally, I'm still sort of wishing for Orlando. I know people have cited Howard's head hunting, but they really do suck. Alot.

  • In reply to zentastic:

    the hawks might have a committee of head hunters kinda like the pacers + they have more of those annoying long guys to throw at rose and captain klank.

  • In reply to zentastic:

    Wow Vogel was right, the team that won the game did win the series.

  • In reply to AlgernonHPenn:

    Exactly the sort of win needed to give the Bulls the confidence to face the Magic(?) in (hopefully) 6-7 days time

  • In reply to AlgernonHPenn:

    What made Thibs put Asik before Thomas in this game even with all the foul trouble for Boozer and Noah? Is he thinking ahead to the next series?

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Playing Asik early was an excellent move. Who would have thought that length on the frontline could be an asset? A 2nd 7 footer is something many teams wish they had.

  • In reply to Edward:

    tall guys are apparently very effective in this basketball game.

  • In reply to Edward:

    Do I sense a hint of sarcasm.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Go back to Indiana, you pathetic thugs.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Boozer needs to learn from Taj how to finish at the rim even with foot problems

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Hansbrough gets to run into and jump on top of everybody for each rebound...and he's only got one foul?? How is that possible?

  • In reply to walrus:

    Yea, he rode Asik like a rodeo bull on one rebound and no call.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Well Doug, refs have been sucking all series. But Bulls are playing very physical (except Carlos Chooser)...The refs have to allow them to match the physicality of the Pacers. And they are starting to back down now. They will quit around the 8:00 minute mark...Over, Done, Finished!!!

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    I am surprised at how many calls the referees have missed in this series.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    How does Hansborough have just one foul? He crashes into at least two players on each rebound attempt.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Epic 3rd quarter for the Bulls, in Bogans we trust.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    He came up Big, Big and very Big. He's been dogged all season. Glad he stepped up!!!

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Bulls finally starting to play closer to their potential.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    these refs think they are getting paid by the fouls called, it is always something

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    no.

  • In reply to pinkizdead:

    name me 6 PGs besides the top 4 I listed that are better.

    you can't, its impossible

  • In reply to pinkizdead:

    Did anyone else hear Scottie Pippen ream Boozer a new a****le during the 3rd quarter of the broadcast? Pip specifically said Boozer is not even trying on defense, is not committed to helping the Bulls win a championship, needs to learn defense from Taj, etc. Is was brutally honest criticism.

  • In reply to Edward:

    I heard that. Honestly, I don't think it is a matter of effort. He is not in a good rhythm plus he commits stupid fouls. I think there is always one important player in a playoff series on a winning team who keeps sucking..it was Carlos's turn in this series.

    I think the biggest problem with Carlos is not his offense or defense but how he commits his fouls. It is so stupid and I hope he learns.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Pip thinks its effort. And he knows the meaning of a commitment to defense.

    Also, a couple days ago in a print interview, Pippen criticised Boozer for just that - getting in foul trouble for silly fouls that have no impact on the game. Pip wanted Booz to give a couple hard fouls.

  • In reply to Edward:

    Glad to hear that from Pip.

  • In reply to Edward:

    Boozer looks to be a lost cause, just like Gordon he got his contract and packed it in. At least I was right about Gordon, and after 2 progressively worse seasons, nobody in their right mind can argue with me now.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Finally, great win. Now somebody find a gym bag and break into boozers house.

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    Bogans, wtf?...Man, Tom "freaking genius or lucky baster" Thibodeau...

    Boozer looks lost. He need his wife back!

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    All season long, one of the Bulls biggest strengths/assets was the entire Bench Mob

  • In reply to Edward:

    I disagree about the bench mob. They were great against the scrub teams and were ok with the good teams. But with Brewer's injury and Asik's play tailing off a little bit in the last month and CJ/Taj struggling with their shots, the bench mob is not as good as we think. I don't know the stats but the bench mob seemed to lose leads in some games in the last month.
    I agree about Vogel out-coaching Thibs. The physical play has gotten into the Bulls a little bit. Rose was driving less in the last game even before his injury. Also, Thibs seems to not have any new offensive game sets when they have been struggling so much. And not telling Rose to calm down on his 3pt attempts because usually Rose takes it down if he is struggling.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    I think the outcoaching thing is an interesting debate.

    Vogel's team is a serious underdog. He has to try everything and anything right away or else he's going to lose.

    Thib's team is a serious favorite. If he starts mixing up stuff that's working then he can take tehm from favorite to loser.

    After 3 games, they were 3-0, are you really changing stuff that much if you're Thibodeau?

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Yes, it is an interesting debate. Did Vinny outcoached Doc Rivers in 2009?. Is Monty Williams outcoaching Phil or Hollins outcoaching Popovich? It is all about matchups and health!

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Asik tailing off is a direct reselt of loss of playing time. Asik has played his best when he gets extended minutes.

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