Bulls Beat #188 - Put the brooms away

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Bulls Beat #188 - Put the brooms away

 

I discuss the Bulls loss in game four to the Indiana Pacers, the officiating, adjustments, and the single brightside to the loss as well as the upcoming rounds of the NBA playoffs.

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  • 1. Good recap and a nice reference about Noah's role on offense. What I am concerned is Vogel has come up with this defense and Thibs is not adjusting fast enough. Luckily with the talent and inexperience of the Pacers, we haven't had big problems. But this offense being bad is not a 1 game thing...it has happened in 4 games now. Thibs is a smart man but he probably cannot implement a new offense and makes the guys use it well in a couple of practices. Doesn't he have any plays for other guys? Some plays for Brewer, Deng, Taj? Are Brewer and Taj supposed to get only broken-play points?
    2. As a fan, we can keep thinking ahead. If the Bulls keep sucking on offense, the defense will get worse as the Bulls defense is bad on helping out so much. There needs to be some radical change in officiating. These calls have killed so many playoff team's momentum. Dallas in 2006, Sacramento in 2002, Phoenix in 2007
    (suspensions), Denver in the 1st game against OKC...I just don't understand the concept of accepting the fact of bad officiating happens and we have to live with it.
    3. And I hope the Bulls do not get any more 12:30/1:30 games. They suck terribly in the early games.

  • It would've been nice to get a sweep over the Pacers but know how the officiating is when the Pacers play in big games on their home floor, I knew that a sweep was not going to happen. It has been that way for years with the Pacers games at home. Again, I have family and friends there and have had a chance to follow the Pacers over the years and the refs always give this team the calls to keep them in the game. This goes back to the ECF in 1998 when the Jordan led Bulls faced them. The Bulls was suppose to sweep them too but every game at the then Market Square Arena was so lopsided in the officiating it was ridiculous. The Bulls bottom line need to play the way they did towards the end of the game against the Pacers and I will garuntee this Pacer team will fold and the Bulls can finally get their comfortable win. The only thing I can say about the Bogans situation is, this has to be Thibs being stubborn in continuing to him to force management together him the 2 guard that he will need next year, meaning go over the luxzury tax if you got to. I know Gar and especially Paxson can't be satisfied with the consistency that Bogans is being used. And I will continue to suggest since the beginning of the season when fans was using Boozer being injured as an excuse that Boozer just does not fit on the Bulls with Noah starting. I don't know what it is but Noah and Boozer's style of play is affected when both are on the floor together. One or the other seems to always be affected in some way in every game they have played together this year. Game 5 has to be the dagger game, I'm tired of seeing the Pacers... take their ass out please Bulls.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    I generally agree, but I think there is no chance whatsoever that Thibs is playing Bogans to force managements hand in any way.

    Bogans is a Thibs guy, Thibs has known him forever. Management already got Thibs two better players, and they're not playing as much as they should right now as well.

    I think all this indicates is that Thibs really appreciates some things he thinks Bogans does and will continue to play him for the rest of the playoffs.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    The thing I don't understand is the lack of pressure from our defense. The Pacers press the entire game with great results. They have great size with a 7'2" center and three 6'10 PF's. They also have great size with their wing players - Granger, George, Jones, Rush,and Dunleavy. They are able to trap Rose or force the ball out of his hands. They can be aggresive in passing lanes and recover quickly by using their size and length on shooters and post players.

    We dial up the pressure in the same way, but we only do it for the last few minutes of the 4th quarter. Why aren't we pressing more. I'm not saying for an entire game, but why not stop a run by forcing turnovers and getting out into transition. The Pacers look awful when pressed.

    I'm not too worried about other teams playing this way because most don't have the personnel. The Celtics don't have the athletes on the perimeter. The Heat don't have the interior size. The Thunder look to be the biggest headache of all the teams remaining. They could pressure us like the Pacers and they'd have Durant to close games.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Ronnie Blew Her? He didn't even know her

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Watching the Heat.... the Bulls better get their act together cause these guys look like they have put things together. I know its the Sixers that they are playing, but with how the Bulls offense has looked, that series could be every frustrating one if they meet in the ECF. Maybe its just the Pacers playing the Bulls tough with their size...don't know???

  • In reply to Reese1:

    I think the Bulls struggle with two reasons with the Pacers:

    1) They have tremendous perimeter athleticism.

    2) They have a lot of big physical bodies inside.

    Miami doesn't have tremendous perimeter athleticism after LeBron/Wade, nor do they have big physical guys inside.

    Not to say the Bulls won't struggle against Miami, I've largely predicted the Heat to beat the Bulls, but the specific things causing the Bulls to struggle will be different.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Guess...LeBron is still not ready to make the big shot

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Agreed, Miami just lost and Philly was able to basically outscore the Heat from the perimeter, so the Bulls bigs would be the deciding factor if they do meet. They would have to dominate the glass and keep Wade and Lebron from getting to the basket.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Lebron should know by now that taking the last shot is not his forte. Wade should be their closer but everyone in Miami is kissing Lebron's butt.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    On that last play they hardly even bothered to double Lebron. They've probably seen his bounce it high off the glass play before. Seems like he's the only one that doesn't realise he's not clutch.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    welcome to the cant sweep club miami 76ers went on an 10-0 run final 2:00 to win the game lechoke could not tie the game lol

  • In reply to Reese1:

    I really like that horford guy. he's a good player. I wish we were able to get a guy like that. fast, good jump shot, decent post player. Any ways, i'm bringing this up, because the hawks are about womp the magic 3-1.

  • In reply to pinkizdead:

    I wish we were able to get a guy like that LaMarcus Aldridge guy, or even Dwight Howard, I'm not picky ;)

  • In reply to pinkizdead:

    If Al Horford was paired up with a legitimate center and could play his natural PF position full-time? WOW, that would be scary!

  • In reply to Edward:

    I'm not so sure, you look at what happened to David Lee when he switched back to PF with Golden State and it actually hurt him. I think guys like Lee, Horford, Stoudemire actually benefit from playing "out of position" at center because it gives them a speed and agility advantage over many of their opponents.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    I think that's true on offense for sure.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Though he

  • In reply to Reese1:

    like you, i'm going to be thrilled to see the hawks in the conference semis.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Go go Hawks! As tempted as I am to say I told you so that the Hawks were a real shot to knock off the Magic, someone will probably remind me I also though the Nuggets were maybe the second best team in the West ... ;)

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    I still can't believe it. Against all evidence, I'm still not confident in Atlanta winning, but few teams give up a 3-1 lead, so they probably can.

    Especially given that they're 6-2 vs Orlando this year.

    Ironic that I buried Boston, and they're the first team to close out a series and the only other team that might sweep is OKC.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    I STILL SAY...don't count Boston out just yet. If they can get 1 game of the first 2 in Miami, I still pick the C's to take Miami out in 6 or 7.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    AGREED Resse1. I have been saying the same thing.
    The Celtcs will surprise many people.

    I am not afraid of Miami. But the Bulls, imo, are playing like their own worst enemy.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Boston sweeping the Knicks with Billups and Stoudemire injured for much of the series is hardly surprising though. It has been interesting how much better Rondo has been when he's looked to score for himself though.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Man that Chris Paul is really a baller, who would have thought the Hornets could go 2-2 with the Lakers once West went down? He's making all the people who wrote him off as an injured has been and said Rose was the best PG now look foolish (myself included)!

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Officiating on there home floor? You're kidding me right? The Bulls went to the free throw line 22 more times than the pacers in games 1 and 2. The pacers went to the free throw line 1 more time than the bulls in games 3 and 4! Doesnt help there giving Rose Jordan calls! Bulls wont make it past the next round!

  • In reply to Duncan46149:

    Thats probably want you want to happen. Seeing that you're not a real fan of the Bulls, don't hate and go find the teams blog who you are a fan of and support and wave your pom poms for them... BEEOTCH...LOL...

  • In reply to Reese1:

    probably a dumb ass Pacer fan thinking like their coach in saying they should be up in the series...PLEASE!!!... stop foolin yourself fool!!!

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Hansboro's breakaway steal and dunk, Boozer's shove in the back clearly should have been t'd up for that, but no was on Chicago's home floor!

  • In reply to Duncan46149:

    Watch the games and look at the individual fouls called/not called.

    The Pacers are going to send the Bulls to the foul line more because their entire defensive philosophy is to hack the Bulls when they drive. On offense, they aren't typically playing a style of ball that generates free throw attempts for themselves.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Was out hanging with the Easter Bunny today so I only saw flashes of a couple of games. To be perfectly honest with you I'm looking ahead to the next round vs. the hawks. I'm gonna love when Jordan Crawford hit's the floor b/c he's gonna turn into the sixth Bull...the ball get's to him and STOPS! He almost cost atlanta that game, I can't believe Drew would call for that many isolations in a row and boy was he chucking. He made a few, but I heard when he admitted to being a ball hog.

    In other news, D.Rose is in possession of the most talked about ankle since Roger Clemens but he's a hockey pla...ummm, I mean...he's a "ChicagoWIN!" so he should be fine.

    I wonder what would it take to get Butler in the game, but then again where would you put him??? Robbie Gould has been so clutch and it...oh wait,...wrong Butler...sorry!

  • please excuse mobile phone typing errors.

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