Bulls win division, lose Boozer, and gain on Boston

Lots of things happened last night, some important, some not important.    The Bulls clinched the division for the first time since the Jordan era with a win over Charlotte and an Indiana loss.   To clinch this early is fairly amazing, but it says more about the weakness of the division than the strength of the Bulls, since 45 wins is typically not enough to win your division at the end of the season let alone this early in the year.

I only got to see bits and pieces of the Bobcats game, so I won't try and force a crappy recap on you.   The biggest news coming out of the game is that Carlos Boozer took a flagrant foul from Kwame Brown, went down and looked to be hurt pretty badly.  If you didn't see the play, no need to jump on the Boozer's fragile bandwagon.

His leg bent back in a way a leg probably shouldn't bend.   X-Rays were negative on the injury, but you typically can't see a torn ACL/MCL on an X-Ray, so we'll have to hold our breaths there a little bit.   The leg seemed to bend backwards more than sideways, so a torn ACL is less likely (at least all my memories of the torn ACLs have guys legs going sideways really weird).

In the locker room, they were calling it an ankle injury, and they'll wait to see how the swelling goes tomorrow.   If this is an ankle injury, I might lean towards guessing a high ankle sprain rather than a low ankle sprain just from looking at it.   If so, Boozer could miss the rest of the season.

However, that's enough of me playing web doctor from watching the play four or five times.   It could just as easily be something that he plays through in two days, so no need to panic until there's an official diagnosis.

Can the Bulls possibly catch Boston for the #1 seed?  

In other news on the night, the Boston Celtics lost to the Clippers
while playing in Boston.   They recently struggled to beat the Milwaukee
Bucks in Milwaukee as well.  Granted, the Bulls have had plenty of
games where they've struggled to beat a mediocre team on the road (and
have failed a few times too), so I'm probably getting ahead of myself,
but I still sense some weakness in Boston.

The Bulls are presently 2 games back in the loss column, but they lose the tiebreaker to Boston due to Boston locking up a better conference record.    As such Chicago needs to lose three less games than Boston for the rest of the season. 

They play each other once more, and that game is in Chicago.   This gives the Bulls the chance to cut it to two games over the rest of the season.   It's a long shot, but I think the Bulls are more in the running for the #1 seed than the Heat are for the #3 seed.

Granted a serious Boozer injury could curtail things quite a bit.

Final thoughts

Let's cross our fingers on Carlos and get prepared for the Hawks.   The Bulls are coming up on the end of the tough 20 games, and they've vastly exceeded my expectations through that stretch.    The Hawks are one of the few teams to hand them a loss during that run, so hopefully they can get some revenge on Friday at the UC.

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  • Man what a crappy division. Isn't it time they just let the teams with the best 16 records into the playoffs? Seems unfair that Phoenix will finish one spot out of the playoffs in the West with a massively better record than the 8th in the East for the 2nd year out of 3.

    If there's any positive about Boozer being injured (assuming he's going to miss at least some games) maybe it can jump start Taj's offense again by putting him in the starting lineup.

    Catching Boston would be huge, perhaps that deadline trade might be just what the Bulls needed to do it. If Boston loses @76ers on Friday (certainly a tough game) and the Bulls win it starts to look real possible doesn't it?

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    I agree that catching Boston would be huge. Of course, the odds of Boston winning and the Bulls losing are probably just as high as the reverse given the Bulls are also playing a tough opponent and will likely be down Boozer.

    Though, I think against Atlanta, having Taj's athleticism and defense in there is just as helpful. I don't want to say missing Boozer doesn't matter. I think Boozer takes a lot of pressure off Rose and makes it so that he doesn't have to work as hard.

    However, in a single game, I don't think Boozer's that big a difference maker. I think the biggest difference he makes is unloading some of the scoring burden on Rose over the season.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    I agree that Boozer's difference isn't all that. The thing is, for all his offensive presence Boozer gives up 6-8 points a night the other end just by not rotating. Taj & Noah work better together than Noah & Boozer, so I don't see the Bulls struggling without Boozer.

    My main concern these days is Roze, thought he might be tiring??

  • In reply to anasemaj:

    Having said that, I wish Boozer a very speedy recovery

  • In reply to anasemaj:

    With Boozer

  • In reply to Edward:

    Yup glad we didn't trade our bigs for a another SG!
    We have a good rotation now and while it isn't ideal with Bogans being are starting SG the guys all work well together and its best to leave it alone now and see how far we go before hopefully getting our starting SG upgrade in the offseason. :-)

  • In reply to smiley:

    in fact someone said Asik was a D League scrub...which even then no one else believed at the time.

    Man when Korver and Brewer play like that last night it makes me wonder how things would be if they simply split the duties at SG. I'm over totally hating on Bogans. Im sure he's a great guy but those performances last night are why we picked up Brewer and Korver first and foremost with Bogans the back up plan.

  • In reply to bullswin60606:

    Yeah Brewer, Korver, and CJ all make around $5M/yr and Bogans a end of bench $1.6M/yr weird how Bogans is the starter but maybe Derrick the other starters like it that way. TT has done a good job of playing all his guys except for JJ who is gone, Scal (player/asst coach), and Big Sexy.

  • In reply to Edward:

    Admittedly, I was one of those people at the trade deadline hoping for a SG (trading Asik).

    However, I admitted my mistake yesterday, prior to the game. So, yeah, I'm extra glad now that a trade wasn't made involving a big.

  • In reply to Edward:

    I'd still have been fine with it if we'd traded Taj. If you get a SG who can start and play 30+ minutes then Brewer/Korver spend a lot more time at SF and Deng can play more PF if needed when there's an injury. Plus you have the offense at SG to allow you to play Noah/Asik together more, because you really can't play them together so much when Bogans or Brewer is the SG.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    I Strongly Disagree. And apparently, so do GarPax.
    Giving Deng more responsibility and minutes at PF? No Thanks! Deng

  • In reply to Edward:

    The whole point is it wouldn't increase Deng's minutes ... we'd have the new SG to take minutes at SG meaning Brewer and Korver would get SF minutes at the expense of Deng. Deng could play more PF and play fewer overall minutes at the same time.

    As far as defending PFs, I think people don't realise how much Deng has already done that this season. He's played about 7 minutes a game on average at PF, and it was even higher earlier in the season when the team wasn't healthy. Pretty sure there was a quote recently from Thibs calling Deng his best defensive option at SF and PF (as well as against some SGs).

    You have to give up something to get something, and if picks aren't enough to get it done then Taj has to be the next thing on the table. If you're getting a legit starting SG back there's no way you should say "I'm not going to plug a hole we have all the time because I'm worried about a hole if our starting PF is injured".

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Fortunately for me and other Bulls fans, GarPax disagree with you quite strongly. Taj and Asik were strictly off-limits in all February trading deadline discussions.

    This off-season, GarPax will acquire a SG upgrade while keeping their frontline intact. So sit back, watch and take notes. You might learn something.

  • In reply to Edward:

    Unless you're Paxson or Forman posting under a screen name you have no idea who was or wasn't off limits, so you can cut your self righteous BS.

    So they refused to give up Asik for Lee, doesn't mean that Asik was off the table to all deals. If the Clippers offered Eric Gordon for Asik you seriously don't think Paxson would have packed Omer's bags himself?

    My preference all along was/is to get an upgrade for picks only, but I'm just saying if a player had to be thrown in to get it done, Taj is the guy. I'd much rather send Taj out for someone than the ridiculous Brewer for Mayo swap that fell through where we threw in three picks to downgrade.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Correction, I don

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Way to mess up a good thing LA.

  • In reply to anasemaj:

    I agree in theory, however you can't overlook the team success since Boozer has joined the lineup on Dec 1

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Can't we just trade Boozer for Gerald Henderson(wasn't he in the same draft class as JJ)

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    The way the Bulls play at home I'm pretty confident their odds of winning even without Boozer is better than Boston's of winning on the road. The 76ers may actually be better than the Hawks right now too.

    How much we miss Boozer really depends on whether we get the Taj from when Boozer was out at the start of the season or the one we have seen off the bench.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Regardless of team record, the numbers of teams per conference would have to be balanced with the current playoff system. Would you eliminate the seperate conferences for the playoffs?
    It would seem the next six games are crucial to Miami's playoff seedings. All six are against +500 playoff caliber opponents. After that, their schedule appears to get much easier than Chicago and Boston the rest of the way. Boston's schedule from now to the end seems a bit more difficult than Chicago's. The #1 seed could be very close, and go down to the wire. The #1 seed in the East would appear to be a significant advantage. Whomever ends up with the eighth seed appears likely to get swept in the first round. The second round should avoid either Boston, Chicago, or Miami assuming they end up as the first three seeds.

  • In reply to efaily:

    Don't really see why you need games to be intra-conference until the finals, it's not like teams are traveling by bus anymore.

  • Damn Kwame Brown the only thing he is know for his is small boy hands and cheap shots rather then the skill that Jordan thought he got when he made him a lottery pick!

  • In reply to smiley:

    he does seem to play angry against the bulls, and i wonder if that t-rex talk from stacy king has anything to do with it? i have to admit i'm no kwame brown fan though.

  • In reply to smiley:

    i think we can catch boston, still got them once at home, too. home court against the celtics would be huge if we play them. i know the 1 has an easier road, but i'm conflicted a bit, as i was really looking forward to bouncing new york and miami out of the playoffs. we just have to hope boozer's alright and get him going a bit. he dominated big baby the last game and is key to keeping the offense going in the playoffs.

  • In reply to smiley:

    Bulls just need to continue beating teams they should beat an we could deff. beat out Boston for the #1 seed. Boston will faulter, we just gotta keep playing our game.

  • In reply to smiley:

    i hope boozer gonna gack quickly. He acts like a child when he is injuried. Remember the last time, he missed 4 games just because of a simple sprained ankle against miami. He should be looking foward to back like Rose and Noah do when they are injuried. We need hiim to finish first of the east.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Take it easy on Booz. We don't even know the extent to the injury yet...

  • In reply to bpmueller:

    Look, if he hadn't gotten hurt, we would be ripping on him, because he played like a pussy the entire game, which has been the norm for him lately.

    For a supposed big guy he plays soft and small, and seems to be getting worse as the season goes on.

    To be honest the Boozer we are getting now is the Boozer I thought we'd be hating in season 5 not season 1.

    He may have even gotten hurt because he went up too soft or awkwardly because he is afraid or unable to finish with authority at the rim unless he is completely unguarded.

    We all have to tread lightly and be nice because he got hurt, but it really doesn't change the fact that he was awful last night and most nights lately.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Take it easy friend...

    Did you see the play? I'd be limping big time after that fall. Let's be careful not to judge until we've walked on another man's twisted ankle...

    I'd be limping, but after all, I am almost 60 (still can rebound though).

  • In reply to rkraneis:

    Bulls clinch the division for first time in forever. Booze get fouled hard (a flagrant nonetheless) and deewaves still whining like a girl...ricockulous

  • In reply to bullswin60606:

    -10

  • In reply to rkraneis:

    Oh, I'm sure we'll do fine without Boozer for a while, Taj (and Big Sexy) could use the extra work... Taj, in particular, will thrive on it. My concern is that Booze and Jo have STILL played only a handful of games to work on their chemistry, and that tandem will have to be in fine form when we meet genuine contenders in the playoffs. Clearly, we're continuing to win on teamwork more than just raw talent... let's hope this sprain isn't too bad. Can't blame Thibs for having him in, he'd been in foul trouble and logged fairly few minutes anyway...

  • In reply to petert23:

    yeah I think he only played like 26 minutes...I said it above already but I hate when people complain about a guy being injured and act like its the coaches fault that he's in the game. Injuries happen, man up.

  • In reply to petert23:

    kwame brown should be suspended for what he did. The game was already lost for them(bulls were up by 17). WTH do u hurt somebody like that when u know you've lost ? frustration ? anyways he should be suspended.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    It was the attack at Noah soon after that made it clear he was intending to injure. That's a Flagrant Two, if you ask me, but it's marginal. And if that wasn't a Flagrant Two in a blowout, it shouldn't in a close game, I get that. My point's that after the flagrant, Kwame doesn't do that again in a close game.

  • Funny thing is...if MJ knew he was drafting the guy that would have the 2nd best NBA career out of Curry, Chandler and Brown, he probably would thought that would be just fine.

  • In reply to scottplummer:

    Bill Simmons once said drafting Darko was like reaching into a bag with a check for 100 million dollars, a check for 50 million dollars, a check for 10 million, and $1 then pulling out the $1.

    You just described the process of reaching into a jar of loose changes and pulling out the nickle.

  • Didn't see the game. How big was the Bulls lead when Boozer got the injury?

  • In reply to boogernights:

    About 8 points if I recall, it happened with about 4 minutes left in the game.

  • In reply to Sluggers:

    Let's be clear: Bulls were up 17 (92-75) with 4:24 left in the 4th quarter. And they'd been up by at least 10 since the 6:09 mark, which is over two full minutes.

    Obviously, you can't avoid injuries like this and we can't do much besides hope it's not serious. But I do think people need to begin putting more pressure on Thibodeau to rest the starters late in games when the Bulls are up by double digits. Seventeen! Boozer/Noah because they've had major injuries this year. Deng because he's playing too many minutes as our only true shooting guard. And probably Rose, just to be careful. There have been far too many games this season where the Bulls have it locked up and yet Thibs has kept some of these guys in--even for the final minute as the clock runs out.

  • In reply to Sluggers:

    Let's be clear: Bulls were up 17 (92-75) with 4:24 when Boozer went down. What's more, they'd been up by at least 10 for over two full minutes at that point (since the 6:09 mark).

    Obviously you can't prevent injuries like this, and there's not much to do besides hope this one isn't serious. But people do need to begin putting more pressure on Thibodeau to rest the starters late in games. Boozer because he had a serious injury this year. Deng because he's been playing too many minutes as our only true small forward. And probably Rose and Noah, too, just to be careful, even though they've been getting good rest courtesy of Watson and Asik. Thibs is clearly doing a great job overall, but there have been too many game in which the Bulls have it locked up but he keeps the starters in at the end, even for the last two minutes, down to when the clock runs out. It's simply not worth the risk.

  • In reply to bzoooty:

    he's trying to build good habits from his starters, so that they put away teams when they have a lead. I don't think Derrick ever came back in the 4th

  • In reply to bzoooty:

    That Boozer fall was pretty bad. Kwame Brown should've been suspended. Hopefully Boozer can come back soon. Maybe Boozer will be back sooner cause didn't Tony Parker have the same injury? The Spurs thought he was gonna be out for a month and he happened to only miss two games, so hopefully it won't be as bad...

  • In reply to joeacook3:

    I didn't think Kwame's foul was that bad it was a flagrant, but not a flagrant 2 (IMO), and it was just a fluke fall by Boozer to land on his leg wrong.

  • In reply to bzoooty:

    It's funny, half of the media guys had us finishing 2nd or 3rd ini the central, and here we are clinching in early March. Good call guys

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    I don't remember seeing nay 3rds, but I do remember a couple people picking us behind Milwaukee which I thought was crazy.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    I threw that in there because I remember at least 1 3rd prediction, can't remember who called it or who besides Milwaukee they had up there, I want to say Cleveland. Yeah, it was that ridiculous

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    and keep in mind, some viewed the LeBronless Cavs as a team like the one that finished the 2010 season, when James sat a couple games down the stretch, and they were fairly successful

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Hey, Doug, gonna write a column on MJ's anointing of MVP Derrick Rose!? Please! And hey, why DID MJ only win the MVP once? Was it politics? Where there really better performances by the winner each time? It was so long ago,I remember the great plays, the shrugs, the eyes closed, but not so much the politics...

  • In reply to petert23:

    MJ actually won the MVP 5 times...88, 91, 92, 96, & 98.

  • In reply to kayak0109:

    And was robbed in 93 and 97. 89 & 90 are debatable, depending on how you define the award.

    I think people took for granted just how much better Jordan was than his peers. Certainly, the gulf between him and the #2 SG in the league was Grand Canyonesque just about every season he played in his prime.

  • In reply to saigman:

    Oops. Brain fart...

  • In reply to petert23:

    Wondering how Boozer's injury will effect Korver's scoring. The last couple of games that I've watched, Kyle seems to come off the baseline and gets a Boozer screen, gets the ball and goes up in the air with the intent to dump it in to Boozer more times than he goes up in the air looking to shoot first. I've seen him get stuck and have a turnover several times on this play because Boozer isn't open. I wish he would go up in this situation every time looking to shoot first and pass to Boozer 2nd if the shot isn't there. If Booz misses a game or two, curious to see if Korver starts to shoot first on those plays more often without Boozer out there.

  • In reply to kayak0109:

    Korver should stick to shooting, he is a pathetically bad passer, but he seems to be a better defensive rebounder that I expected.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    I disagree bigtime, I think he is a truly uinderrated passer

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Yeah way to go Lakers you were expected to keep the Heat Ice Cold!

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    I still can't understand the logic of picking Milwaukee over the Bulls. It's like they were picking them based on last season's roster instead of factoring in the offseason moves.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Per CSNChicago.com: http://www.csnchicago.com/03/10/11/Bulls-Boozer-day-to-day-with-sprained-an/landing_insider_aggrey_sam.html?blockID=437660&feedID=661

    It seems that Boozer thankfully has a sprained ankle, and nothing as serious as a knee ligament strain/tear, although the severity of the injury isn't noted (high ankle sprains are usually more severe than lower ones).

    Ankle sprains though can be nagging injuries. I believe Chris Kaman badly sprained his ankle earlier this year, tried to come back and reinjured the ankle. He sprained the ankle in November and was only able to return in February. With Boozer's injury history, the team should allow Boozer to take as much time as possible to rehab and heal in order to have him for the upcoming playoff run.

  • In reply to stepbackJ:

    ok then nice. just a sprained ankle. good news. He must get back quicly because we nned him to end-up first of the eastern conference.

  • In reply to stepbackJ:

    Video of Boozer Injury:

    http://www.csnchicago.com/pages/bullsvideo?PID=VFp8V_wgvKvPOtUqTmo9bfHf1KIvaVvG

  • In reply to folky15:

    Thanks, I didn't get to see the game and espn didn't show the injury in the highlights. I was wondering what it looked like. Looks like his foot just bent all the way back. Looked like a decent sprain, hopefully he's not out too long. I'd rather have him miss a week or two now, than rush back and re-injure it and miss part of or not be effective in the playoffs.

  • In reply to kayak0109:

    That begs the question, why are you still watching ESPN? NBA TV bro, that's where its at.

  • In reply to folky15:

    Lakers vs. Miami

  • In reply to Edward:

    If you are worried more about having homecourt advantage in the NBA finals over extending the lead on the Heat then you are really optomistic. I'll take the lead over the Heat and if they somehow make the finals then I will take whatever team they have to play regardless of Homecourt advantage. Hell I will be happy if they can win their first two rounds!

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    Agree...Rose is young and needs confidence. The more the team advances in the East is what matters first. Root for the Lakers...hope that Heat falls to 4 and let Boston/Miami fight it out in the second round.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Oh well, not that we all had anything to do with it, but Miami wins.

    Bulls lead Lakers by 2, Miami by 3 (in the loss column).

  • In reply to Edward:

    If the Bulls can't stay ahead of Miami they're not going to have to worry about home court for the finals. A team that's good enough to get there wont give up the lead they have on Miami with the easiest schedule in the entire NBA to come.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    A lot of people fell in love with the Salmon's fueled Bucks run at the end of last year. Bulls fans knew not to believe he'd do the same thing the year after!

  • In reply to bzoooty:

    I have been somewhat critical of Boozer's performance, but I sure hope his injury is not serious, that he misses no more than just a few games. Granted Boozer has not been playing like an all star, the Bulls have no chance for the title this year w/o a healthy Boozer on the current squad. Even at full strength, odds are against the Bulls to win it this year. No matter, this Bulls team is a true team made up of hard working, good characters. Unlike the Heat, I believe the Bulls have a very broad NBA fans support nationally, wishing them well. Go Bulls!!!

  • In reply to igotpar:

    I agree the Bulls are definitely one of the national darlings to some extent because of Rose and hatred of Miami/Boston as a general rule.

  • In reply to bzoooty:

    The problem was 12 points with 6 minutes left (last time out) isn't really that big a lead where you are yanking starters.

    No team would ever yank their starters at that point.

    So then over the next minute and a half, Korver knocks down 2 threes to make it a huge lead, then Boozer gets hurt.

    Well maybe once Korver hits the two threes you could start pulling starters, but you typically are waiting for a stoppage of play.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    This is a man's game and players play. Let's not start whining about resting guys. This team has lost to teams they shouldnt and blown leads like in ATL. Its not the '98 Bulls that need to rest up. This team really needs home court advantage more than anything if you look at their record. While you could argue that Thibs could pull a guy sooner here or there I guarantee the player is fine playing (so why shouldnt we be). I'm not a fan of worrying about injury. Its a young team and minutes are not the issue.

  • In reply to Sluggers:

    I haven't seen the play, but if Boozer's knee was bent backwards like Doug describes, it won't be an ACL or MCL injury. It would be a PCL injury (posterior cruciate ligament). This is pretty uncommon for basketball players.

  • In reply to punkedgepc:

    His leg was bent so that his heel was caught under his thigh when he came down. He was basically in a sitting position on the heel of his foot, but all of his weight came down real hard on that foot and bent it in a weird way that sprained his ankle. He was able to walk out on his own but with a serious limp.

  • In reply to Sluggers:

    I've been very impressed with the play of Gerald Henderson. Any chance the Bulls look his way to fill the hole at 2 guard this summer? Just like any talks with Houston would start with them demanding a big, with Charlotte I'm sure they would need thier conditional pick back plus 1-2 more 1sts. I like that kid though. Another former Dukie, athletic, good shooter, great defender, size...let's get him.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Lousy teams typically don't look to trade promising young players, so probably not.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    It sucks, teams never want to get rid of good players ;)

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    altough they can't be too happy with his 3 pt shooting, its below 20% this year. I know that wouldn't help u, b/c we really need another, but...I can't think of a way to finish this sentence. Anyways I like this kid, and being only a year older than Derrick, he can still develope & fit in long term with the rest of our core.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    I guess OJ Mayo is our best bet in the list of young promising SGs. I am not sure if we can get Affalo if we are under the cap at the end of the season. Can Affalo get the MLE + whatever the money left under the cap.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Bulls should be over the cap by the start of FA (but under at time of draft), so if there is a MLE we will get one

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Afflalo is a RFA and Denver will match the money to keep him. They love him, and for good reason. It looks like they are going to let JR Smith go and keep Afflalo, so the only way you are getting him is to offer something above the MLE which we do not have. Almost no chance of getting him without a trade :(

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    his numbers are way down since Melo left

    and they do love him, but at what price? Next year they will have to pay him more

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    He's scored more per game on fewer minutes, his numbers aren't way down at all. His three point percentage is down a fair bit, but on the 28 attempts he's had without Melo that's 2 missed shots, probably just natural variation.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    that's just not true

    he's had 2 games since then where he's failed to score 10 points, only eclipsing 20 that first game

    his 3pt % has been 35% over this stretch, far below his once 45%

    he's actually getting huge minutes

    he hasn't had a steal since February 10th

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    way down might have been a stretch, but they are down, and that might be from recieving more defensive attention

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    MRI negative, Boozer day to day with sprain

    http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=6202287

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Great news. That said, seeing Boozer struggle after his last sprain(he seems to have no lift on his legs), I am not sure how soon he will be really in a groove. I don't think for example Noah or Taj would have got hurt like him in the same play.

    Also, has anybody else noticed Boozer and Noah kind of fighting for the same defensive rebounds. These two need to play together to get their positioning in sync.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    I know, Taj turns his ankle all the time, & always gets up and puts his hard hat right back on!

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    that was not your average ankle turn by any means. hes lucky to not have broken anything or done ligament damage

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    obviously, but you have to love the way Taj keeps getting up

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    I was goin g to bring up that rebounding thing too.

    Did you see, the play right before booz got hurt, on the defensive end, they founght for the same board, Booz refused to give it up, & Noah held his hands back up in the air for a good 3 seconds as he walked back down on offense? I don't like some of the signs I see from Carlos sometimes. I think he has an ego he is trying hard to hold back at times. Got to hand it to him for doing it well so far, but I just don't know if he can keep it up, especially if this team went through a tough stretch.

    Also, the last game against New Orleans, Thibs pulled Boozer for defense towards the end during Bulls free throws, and Carlos walked by Thibs with a perturbed look on his face, and you could read his lips and he said something like "Why are you taking me out?" Oh man, I didn't like that, but then the rest of the game in the huddles and with his teammates you could tell he was almost going out of his way to be the good guy. I think he realized it was his bad. Still, it looks like that guy is inside of him, not sure if he can surpress it for too long.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Glad to see him trying! Accent the positive... but yeah, that rebounding thing is EXACTLY why I think it's critical for the two to get more experienced and comfortable together in offense, and especially on defense.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    On a team as selfless as the Bulls appear to be, I think Boozer is probably the biggest ego, and likely to be the biggest problem in the future despite all the things that he says to indicate otherwise.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    ive heard in the past boozer has gotten mad at teammates for stealing rebounds away from him. especially guards. If you notice every rebound boozer goes for he screams "gimme dat". which i love the quote but he is somewhat of a rebound hog.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    I did notice that, Boozer needed to pad his stats.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Like I said above, can't we just trade Boozer for him. Other than Rose he has been the best player on the court the last 2 games against the Cats.

    That Larry Brown sure knows how to fuck up players and teams. What an ass.

  • In reply to boogernights:

    Rose made MJ go Wow

    MJ watched the game...

    Perhaps in the 2nd or 3rd quarter, Rose did a cross over down the lane to the bucket, made what I call the Patrick Ewing "hop", and then leaped for a layup. Pretty.

    The TV crew cut to MJ immediately, watching the game. I can't read lips but he looked like he said "Wow". He was grinning and laughing, obviously impressed by Rose.

  • In reply to rkraneis:

    He made him go wow, then after the game MJ said he was MVP. Is there a better endorsement?

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Hopefully one from the NBA that comes with a trophy ;)

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    And a title :-)

  • In reply to boogernights:

    I believe it was 17 points or so.

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