Bulls sign Rasual Butler though he's not expected to be in the rotation

The official press release:

The
Chicago Bulls announced today the team has signed free agent
guard/forward Rasual (Rah-SUE-uhl) Butler.  In accordance with team
policy, terms of the contract were not announced.

Butler (6-7, 215) is currently in his ninth year in the NBA.  Drafted by the Miami Heat with the 53rd
pick in the 2002 NBA Draft, Butler has played for Heat, the New
Orleans/Oklahoma City Hornets and the Los Angeles Clippers.  He appeared
in 41 games (two starts) this year with the Clippers, and averaged 5.0
ppg, 1.9 rpg and 0.7 apg in 18.1 mpg.

In
eight-plus seasons in the NBA, he has played in 598 regular season
games (249 starts) and averaged 8.6 ppg, 2.6 rpg and 0.9 apg in 24.1
mpg, and shot .401 from the field, .361 from behind the arc and .751
from the line.  The 31-year old Butler has also made three trips (27
games, six starts) to the NBA playoffs, where he has averaged 4.8 ppg,
1.6 rpg, 14.7 mpg, .407 field goal shooting, .414 from downtown and .833
from the free throw line.

Chicago's roster now stands at 13 players.

However, KC Johnson added this:

Coach Tom Thibodeau has yet to comment on Butler; however, general
manager Gar Forman said publicly last week that any additions to the
roster would be for insurance.
If Butler is for insurance then I like the move.   Why not?   Gives you another guy who could fill some minutes if Deng, Brewer, Korver, or Bogans go down.   I don't think it makes a world of difference, but you're only a freack moment away from desperately needing more depth in this league.
So, in general, I'm happy with the signing for that reason.  
However, I don't expect the Bulls to sign two players, nor do I want them to sign two players.   I'd rather have them keep the cap room open for this summer, so that they can take a shot at O.J. Mayo on draft day.
Right now, 3 #1s and Keith Bogans non guaranteed contract looks like a pretty sweet trade for Mayo if you're Memphis and decide to unload him.    They basically get a small trade exception, take on no salary and get three picks for their trouble.
So given that I only want to sign one player, I'm a bit disappointed that the player isn't Kaleena Azubuike, because I think, if healthy, he might actually be the best SG on the team.   Granted, he basically hasn't played for a year and a half, so who knows how healthy he could really be, but he said he could have played for the Knicks if they wanted him to.
I would have preferred to take the chance or at least bring him in for a physical and find out.
Now maybe the bulls will make both moves and try to sign Azubuike too, but do we really need five SGs on the roster?   It seems silly to hedge your bets twice with guys who won't play and hurt your leverage for this summer at the same time.
As such, overall, I'm a bit luke warm on the whole deal.  It's not a terrible move by any stretch, but I probably would have gone in another direction.  Odds are, the difference will be irrelevant either way.

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  • Do we know how much Butler will get? League minimum?
    Id like Mayo too but Memphis already turned down Ronnie Brewer and 3 #1s for him before the trade deadline already from us and the GM/owner (top guy) lives in the Chicagoland area and is a pussy and doesn't want to deal with the local team (Bulls).
    I think I could persude him if I could get his address! :-)

  • In reply to smiley:

    They turned down Brewer because they need Mayo to create shots for them while Gay is out. They were able to acquire Battier mitigating need Ronnie's impact. Heisley will very likely be pocketing a fat check from the league for making the playoffs still. Then they can dump Mayo and waive Bogans as opposed to paying Ronnie next year...or maybe they'll find another offer they like better, again.

  • In reply to smiley:

    Until proven otherwise I'm sticking with the theory that the Knicks actions and the rest of the league's completely lack of interest speaks a lot more honestly about Azubuike's health then his or his agent's claim that he can play tomorrow. Otherwise none of it really adds up at all. We may look back and wonder tho.

  • In reply to reprisal:

    I feel the same way. That Azubuike received no reported interest speaks volumes. If he could play anywhere near where he did 2 seasons ago, you'd have to think teams would at least take a low risk gamble - especially the Bulls who could use that type of player. I'm sure he believes that he can play, but it seems that the rest of the NBA isn't on board.

  • In reply to walrus:

    Boston had interest in him, but who don't they have interest in nowadays.

  • In reply to walrus:

    I'm less concerend about the signing of Rasual Butler then I am about the overall lack of scoring balance at guard, and the subsequent invitation to overcomitt other team's defense on Derrick which is taking it's toll IMO.

    Signing Butler now after missing Mayo, Lee, and Bibby is like replacing a leaky roof after the house is already full of water. They wanted to keep Taj and Omer instead of Mayo and/or Lee. So be it. If we land Mayo or some unforseen quality starting SG in the offseason then it will probably have been the right move.

    Butler had several years in the league where he could hit the three that's why he stayed in the league. These last two aren't them: 2009-10 .336 and 2010-11 .326. Rationalize his viability(as is human nature) as we are stuck with him. But this guy is done i.e he sucks. If someone does fall he's simply another guy on the floor who can't shoot.

    So in conclusion IMO offensively this guy gives us nothing. Did I mention I pretty much hate this signing? Like Doug, I wish we had at least given Azubuike a physical/look. Even if he's not ready maybe establish a connection/pick-up for next season ala Shaun Livingston. And who knows maybe he has more left in the tank/physical ability coming back then him. Either way no risk and so a win/win. If we had one other guy that could shoot 3's in volume as Korver can get cold and is not the most cold blooded late game bomber I've ever seen, we'd be much better off.

    We know Ronnie with his somewhat impaired release can not shoot threes with any accuracy period. As much as I hate to say it(again) not picking up another three shooter is a huge sandbag come playoff time. Still, Gar/Pax did a nice job getting character guys with talent in C.J. and Ronnie.

    Right now C.J. is shooting 37% from three. And Bogans the same 37%.

    IMO we need more shooters as the doubling/attention on Derrick is giving wide open looks. And Bogans has had respectable percentages in volume in recent years. I know this sounds crazy as bad as Bogans shot looked earlier this year, but we need to at least try he and C.J shooting more volume/attempts and see what happens. Even if it fails it's the only way are going to win in the long run as teams now can just key in on Derrick, and it's taking its toll.

    Also, I'd have to sit Ronnie more, and as well as C.J. stays in front of his man I bite the bullett, and play him more minutes at scoring guard. There's a reason he shot .457 and .468! on nearly double digit scoring the last two seasons. Thibs we really need some more guard scoring for some balance, and to get all this funk of gummed up team defense off of Derrick from a lack of scoring balance at guard. Please. I don't care if C.J. gets some of those points from free throws and drives to the hoop. You shoot high 40's then you do what you do i.e it works.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    +100

  • In reply to walrus:

    There's no way the Bulls should sign a guy who obviously have knee issues. There's no big rush, he will be there this summer so just have him come in take a physical and prove that he is healthy. Like I have stated before... the Bulls cannot afford to take chances on guys that have question marks on them. The east is much improved and the right moves have to be made by the Bulls this summer if they plan on contending for the east and the championship.Hopefully Reinsdork feels this way as well and stop putting all of his money into the White Sox.

  • In reply to walrus:

    I'm not as concerned about the balance of scoring at guard. Nor do I think we need a shooting guard position involving a star that requires us to give up big men when we need those resources. I look at the Lakers and I don't hear a lot of complaining about how the Lakers would be perfect if they could just get rid of Derek Fisher and get a much better point guard. All Fisher is asked to do is defend and hit the open jumpshot. They don't need another creator or weapon and they don't worry about more scoring overall from the guard position. Isn't that what we need out of our 2 guard because DRose is our Kobe and the problem is more that Boozer is not consistently being our Gasol. Bogans and now Butler may not fill the Fisher role very well and if we could get it, we would love to have someone with the defensive skills and ability of Brewer and the shooting of Korver. But doesn't every team in the NBA want that. Not sure why Mayo or Bibby?? would do that. Courtney Lee, I like, but I'm not sure Houston really wanted to give him up. And for what he would give us (A Derek Fisher type player) as someone to play defense and hit the open shot consistently, I wouldn't want to give up a lot of draft picks and definitely not size for him either. The Bulls are almost there. You have to give to get and that means you just plug one hole while opening another. I think it is up to the coach to design better offensive sets that capitalize on the other key offensive players, Boozer and Deng, so that the offense does not put so much on DRose especially in cruch time moments or when he is off.

  • In reply to mgreen:

    +150... and a COTY candidate had best show some situational flexibility!

  • In reply to mgreen:

    "Down by 24 points in the third quarter, the Magic went on an unbelievable 40-9 run over the next 15 minutes."

    WOW

  • In reply to mgreen:

    Jason Richardson scored 24 points for Orlando, 11 of them to kick start the epic burst and was 5-for-5 from 3-point range after halftime.

    I want him as our SG very badly.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    too expensive

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Yeah I saw what you wrote above. Sucks.

  • In reply to mgreen:

    Corey Brewer signs with Dallas.

    Leon Powe signs with Memphis.

    Al Thornton signs with GS.

    Keep heading West gentlemen. No more ammo for Miami, Bos or NY.

  • In reply to walrus:

    The Bulls may be almost there. The playoffs will be a good test of Omer and Taj to see if they are as effective against other teams/bigs as they are touted. For me Taj and Omer while basically good one on one defenders are not elite/no sure thing. I agree bigs are very valuable, and a necessity in the playoffs. But in the long term Taj as slight as he is built, and Omer while strong is still not proven as a match for bigger centers. And championship teams have bigs who can score as well as play D. Neither Taj or Omer really has scored much including Taj's jumper which has vanished. These playoffs should help decide if the Bulls bigs can get it done against the best.

    I do think Derrick is just having too many inefficent/low FG% games in the last two months for me. The doubling has definitely been stepped up.

    Look at San Antonio, Detroit, Boston and they all had two or more quality/all-star caliber drivers. The Lakers use the triangle which is unique in creating driving opportunities for the whole team. And despite the fact that the Lakers shouldn't have won last year, Derek Fisher despite his rep/regular season numbers was a star driver/scorer during much of the Finals.

    The Bulls don't have a Shaq/dominating force inside at 25ppg or more or SG with size in Kobe. And they don't run the triangle or have a second driver. Teams are just having too much of an easy time focusing on Derrick right now IMO. Overall I do think Derrick needs to score 25ppg and up for the Bulls to win, but team energy wise and psychologically during certain stretches he needs some relief. In the short term and in the playoffs I do think you need other players to pick up some of the load at times. Boozer at 19 ppg and Luol at 18 are carrying their share. But C.J. particulalry can drive and score and is shooting 37% from three. I just think
    he needs more time and more looks. We need a second guy punishing people for the overplay on Derrick IMO. And even Bogans probably should be launching a couple more threes in certain games where he's hit one or two and is left wide oepn.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    You make some good points RW..In NBA history, I don't think there are any teams which have won unless they have gone through a few playoff exits(second round or more). That is why there are so many doubters. People think Rose will get there eventually but not this year.
    He is learning the game but what Thibs has done is, accelerate the growth of Rose and the Bulls. That's why it has got us fans confused. If the Bulls were like 30-28 or something like that, we would still complain but we would expect a second round exit. Now, every loss is a super-analysis and I think Thibs is not going to change much. He is like Sloan that he believes in running the same thing but doing it perfectly.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    Wow! Anybody watch that ORL - MIA game? MIA blew a 20 pt lead and lost! I know...the Bulls just did it too, but...you understand. Anyway, the best news is that both teams just gassed themselves beating the sh#t out of each other for the entire 2nd half. Could bode well for CHI -- especially tomorrow.

  • In reply to brad73:

    They didn't show much Toronto games on TV when Bosh played. Oh my...This guy is so delicate and such a wuss. I know Boozer is injury prone and doesn't play defense...But, I guess he is a man atleast. Bosh's head is completely screwed with all the attention..

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    lool. bos is a faggot ! lmao. I have never liked him. He is a soft foward not a power foward.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    I really don't like you or anyone using that word or concept as a blatant insult. There's no need for it here, Deewaves, and I think you bring a regularly insulting tone to this blog. I enjoy this blog precisely for the thoughtful comments and sense of community. I'm just one reader and occasional poster, but I'll state my opinion here and ask you stop spreading so many insults, both about NBA Personnel and the other posters here. (Or at least do it with a sense of humor, like Shaq's comment about the Ru Paul of the NBA...) Sorry, I don't speak much here, but your posts have seemed largely offensive over the last few weeks. Just had to get that off my chest... play nice and grown-up, please!

  • In reply to petert23:

    ok. then sorry i didnt want to offense anybody! i just express myself !

  • In reply to deewaves:

    i just mean bosh plays too soft for a power foward !

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Thanks deewaves and Peter for showing why this is such a good mature community.

    Respect to you both

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Posh Spice is trying to look tougher with cutting off his locks but still sucks! :-)

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Great news : Miami just had a worse night than chicago had against ATL !! i told u, these guys (lebron james, bosh and wade) will pay for not coming in chicago.
    go bulls ! go rose : u can do it without them !!

  • In reply to brad73:

    i saw the game. At least for bulls, they were on the road. But Miami was at Home !!!! it's terrible. I like when those jackass loose !

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    I agree. Excellent points. And the triangle is good at ball movement which is what (ball movement and more creative offensive sets) I think the Bulls need to figure out how to do more rather than just relying on DRose to beat his man in the crunch. I'm hoping Boozer and to a more limited extent, Deng, can give DRose some relief. If not, we are back at looking at both the small forward and the two guard position for someone who will be a big driver/scorer and take some heat off DRose. This year's playoffs will give us an indicator. Thanks for your input.

  • In reply to reprisal:

    Leave a comment...

  • In reply to mgreen:

    Sorry, about the blank comment. I meant to say here is the link when the blog earlier discussed selecting Butler this summer that ManonNeptune is apparently referring to above. http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2010/07/bulls-interested-in-rasual-butler-and-shannon-brown.html.

  • In reply to reprisal:

    I'm sure other teams called the Knicks up and asked "did you let him go because you needed the spot or is he seriously no chance to play this year" and they got the answer that he's no chance, which would explain why nobody even got him in for a workout.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    I'd say that's pretty accurate. If he were healthy teams would be all over him.

  • In reply to smiley:

    If Wade is playing against Butler or Bogans, does it really make a difference in the 4th quarter of a playoff game or for that matter 1st quarter? Wade will be falling all over the player and looking for a foul...Butler provides him a bigger target to fall on.

    Seriously, if Rose doesn't shoot well...this team is doomed. But can he keep his man on him rather than letting him go towards Rose. That will determine his minutes because he probably can play better defense than both Bogans and Korver.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    I agree. I think the only person that really gives Wade some trouble from a defensive standpoint on the Bulls is Ronnie Brewer and part of that is Brewer's size and athleticism. I think Butler could do that, too, but not as good as Brewer. I think Butler can also guard LeBron a little and I don't think Bogans can. By the way, this is not just about guarding Miami. I think the same concepts apply to guarding Pierce and Allen. I see Butler as merely a little better defensive player than Bogans and better able to guard 2 guards with size and athleticism and small forwards because of his own size and athleticism. Still, you are right if he can't hit the open 3 well enough to make his defender stay on him and not help out on Rose. It is no big difference to the Bulls and he will be subject to the criticims Bogans gets right now.

  • In reply to mgreen:

    Which is why I would have gone after Corey Brewer, despite his offense issues.

    I guess that he is getting a multi year deal from Dallas. I imagine that the Bulls were not willing to offer a multi year.

    Butler does nothing for me, I would have been somewhat excited with Brewer.

  • In reply to smiley:

    It was 2 #1's and a #2, and did not include the Charlotte pick. Mayo could be more available on draft day, as might some others. Unfortunately, the way that he is playing, I don't think one of those guys will be Aaron Afflalo.

  • I'm still not sold on Mayo. He is short for a 2 guard and a gunner. Not great on defense either and nothing to suggest he'd add to chemistry. But you would give up 3 draft picks when those picks could/should be leveraged for a much better player. Now regarding Butler, I thought he would have been a better addition than Bogans this summer. He is taller and more athletic and is similar to Bogans in hitting the open 3. I'd rather see Butler guarding DWade for a while rather than Bogans. Other than that (he is taller and a little more athletic) Butler doesn't offer us much difference than Bogans. But we are in 3rd place in the Conference and shouldn't need a lot. And to get a lot, we'd have to give a lot. Like most of the buyout deals, Butler isn't going to add much more than any of the other buyouts. And Azubuike would have been fine. But the Knicks need shooters just as much as we do and they don't seem to want him. Go ahead name a knockdown outside shooter on the wing for the Knicks when Melo or Stoudemire are double-teamed, maybe Fields. So why wouldn't they want to keep Azubuike unless he is hurt. And we already do have Korver.

  • In reply to mgreen:

    you and me both. I'd rather have Afflalo, who has struggled scoring a bit lately not playing off Melo, and maybe since he will demand a new contract, Denver won't be so high on him.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    I agree with you and like Affalo a lot. I'm worried that Denver won't let him go now that they are rejuvenated post-Melo with him being a key leader in that as their starting 2 guard. And if I'm going to wait until this summer, I might look at someone like Jason Richardson who has an expiring contract and I think Orlando will have a harder time re-signing him given how much we got them to pony up for J.J. I'd look at up and coming folks like Affalo or key veterans like Jason Richardson rather than passing on three draft picks for Mayo. I'd wait to use those draft picks for a more impact player than Mayo, possibly someone like Affalo who is much, much better than Mayo.

  • In reply to mgreen:

    Richardson is coming off a $18 million season or something in that range, I don't see any way the Bulls can afford him, unless he is a mid level guy, assuming there is a mid level exception anymore, which I doubt that there will be.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Agreed. Maybe Mayo would work out but its a gamble. I'd like to Afflalo first too.

    I think its pretty obvious Azubuike isnt able to play (well) right now too...or he'd be playing...check the NYK roster for SGs and you'd say who??? And they still let him go.

  • In reply to mgreen:

    Looking at the schedule here over the next two days, I'm thinking that an Orlando win will certainly go a long way towards leap frogging the Heat. The Bulls roll into Orlando with a bad taste in thier mouth with the Magic comming off a big win. The Heat will then take their talents to San Antonio. Leading to a showdown for the two seed on Sunday. I like the way its shaping up. In all reality, our Bulls needed a game like last night. Though it was dissapointing, it will go a long way toward defining this year's playoff run. Think of that bad loss last year at NJ toward the end of the year. Just primed them for taking care of buisness to wrap up that 8 seed over the next few games. I am excited to see how they respond.

  • In reply to mgreen:

    anyway butler is better than nothing.

  • In reply to mgreen:

    I saw a past article from last summer on here from Mark Deeks, I think, and the headline was "Bulls interested in Butler, and Shannon Brown" and the Bulls were looking at signing Butler before Bogans was even signed. It made me think about how things would've been different (or the same) had Butler been starting instead of Bogans. The comments that we posted on that article was funny too.

  • In reply to joeacook3:

    I still dont understand why we were so interested in Anthony Parker. Butler is about as good as he is and now there saying Butler is pretty much here for depth. I bet Butler plays decent minutes as the season goes on. He has some good length the Bulls can use.

  • In reply to joeacook3:

    PER SCHMER, Butler and Bogans both are three point shooters period. Bogans: 2009-10 2.5 attempts at .357, 2010-11 2.5 att's at .374. Despite his terrible stretch earlier those are legit numbers. Butler? 2009-10 a whopping 5.3 attempts at.. wait for it.. .336. And 2010-11 3.1 att's at .326(Price Is Right clunker sound here). And at 33 minutes last year he has 0.4 steals and 2.9 boards.

    Both these guys make their living shooting 3's(and playing at least passable defense). Bogans has at least been viable/respectable. Butler has been just plain awful. I'm sure glad we "beat out" the Celtics and Thunder's clamoring front offices on this one. Let's face it if he went to any other team as playoff bound "move" we'd be laughing about it.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    Err, I was using PER to mock Butler as being far worse than Bogans. I have no idea why we signed him either, he's a complete scrub and I'd rather play Scal than him in the event of an injury.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    Butler has averaged more then 10ppg for 3 seasons. If he played any minutes this year, he probably would do it again. Bogans cant do that. Hes only done it once in his career, his sophmore season. Butler is about as good as Anthony Parker imo. Bogans is a defensive player forced to shoot 3's, Butler is a 3 point shooter, thats what he does. If he gets minutes, we will see if he can produce or not.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    That being said...if Bogans can continue to knock down the 3...you have to keep him in there. If Bogans goes into a complete drought then i think Butlers name will be called.

  • In reply to mgreen:

    Actually, I'd much rather have signed Tony Allen instead of Bogans, and Allen ended up in memphis also. He has even managed a couple of 20 points games for them. Allen is almost certainly the best 2 guard/wing defender in the league and Thibs coached him, so I don't know how we missed out on him.

    He wouldn't have solved our shooint problems at shooting guard, but I bet the fans would have loved him.

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  • Well at least Butler upgrades something, Bogans no longer has the worst PER on the team.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Actually I guess Scal was already worse but Butler has played enough minutes to qualify for the list on ESPN.

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