LaMarcus Aldridge dunked on the Bulls again

Have you ever seen so many dunks by one guy in your life?   You could create your own youtube highlight video of Aldridge dunking just from last night's game.   The Bulls defense was simply embarrassing in this game.

The Bulls played poorly, but well enough to win this game, they lost it due to three primary reasons.

The Warriors and Trailblazers have put out the blue print for how to
defeat the Bulls defense.   Run at them.  

The Bulls have looked
absolutely helpless to stop transition and early offense in the past two
games.   Carlos Boozer and Kurt Thomas can't get back fast enough to
help and Taj Gibson was frequently late getting back even though he has
enough athleticism to do so. 

This was the Portland Trailblazers, one of the slowest teams in the NBA, running all over the Bulls scoring 18 of their 100 points in transition, and that total doesn't count all of the free throws sunk because the Bulls fouled a guy in transition.

The Bulls defensive scheme has fallen apart recently, as their offense did enough to win this game.   They shot nearly 50% from the field, but they couldn't do enough defensively to win.  

Besides the obvious problem of transition, the fact of the matter is the Bulls lost this game at the free throw line.

Poor free throw shooting has plagued the Bulls all season long, and while three of the seven misses were by Omer Asik whom we expect it from, Deng and Boozer still combined for two of five from the charity stripe.  

The Blazers shot 37-40 which shows that they certainly had a bunch of home love from the refs while the Bulls shot 11-18.   We shot 22 less free throws yet had more than double the misses.   Consider that gap in a four point game, and if the Blazers had merely shot their team average, they'd have only hit 32 of 40, and the Bulls would have won by a point.

If the bulls had knocked down 15/18, they would have tied the game.   The free throw disparity both in attempts and percentage determined the outcome of a game where the Bulls realistically played very poorly, but still well enough to win.

The Bulls couldn't knock down open threes

There was a frustrating stretch at the start of the third when the Bulls offense generated wide open three pointer after wide open three pointer, and no one could knock one down.   The Blazers built up a big lead through this stretch, and while the Bulls chipped away at it, they weren't ever able to fully come back.

These were shots with no one in the same zip code.   Deng <clank>, Bogans <clank>, Rose <clank>, Deng again <clank>.   It was terrible.    What makes it worse is that these were largely corner threes, which should be the easiest to knock down from the field.

On the night, the Bulls were only 4/16 from the three point line.  They're a team that averages 6/16 or so, two more threes and the Bulls win.   Especially when the threes were as wide open as they were tonight, the result was especially disappointing.

Individual player recaps?

I don't even want to do them, because for the most part guys played pretty well offensively, but after witnessing that abomination defensively, it's hard to discuss that.

I'm not sure what the response next game will be, but a week ago, I asked whether the Bulls defense was legit or a paper tiger built off of easy opponents.   The Bulls have shown they can play great defense on some tough teams at home, but they've been embarrassingly bad on the road.

For a team that looks destined to play on the road in the 2nd round of the playoffs and going forward, that's not a good thing.

I will throw this out there though, Omer Asik had a great effort out there. 

I believe all four of his makes were dunks, but he was extremely aggressive in going hard and fast at the basket and didn't have the hesitation that had caused him problems recently.

When he plays without hesitation and just looks to dunk the ball hard as soon as it's delivered to him, then he no longer hinders the team offense.

Final thoughts

I'm curious to know how Tom Thibodeau will react to these two losses.  Does he chew the guys out for terrible defense?   Does he go over the film calmly?   One thing I know is that the defense is going to get plenty of work in the next practice.   The Bulls now have a tough road ahead and need to win the next two games to salvage this road trip.

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  • Doug, true that the points on the line and free throw % were a huge difference maker; but it didn't appear that officiating was unfair. Certainly Rose got the calls he deserved.
    You didn't want to discuss individuals because the team scored enough points, but Brewer and Watson have been noticeably inconsistent on both ends of the court lately.
    And Boozer's gotten so bad that Sam Smith even brought up the suggestion of sitting himr in the 4th quarter he's become such a defensive liability.

    Obviously this slump is only apparent the last 2 games. However it's so extreme and radically out of character of what we are accustom to seeing; one can't help but be concerned.
    Defense was the backbone of this team, the stabilizer. The effort and execution of the basics have severely and quickly dissipated.
    Is it indicative of the beginning of something greater, like burnout or worse tune out.
    I know It's early to become alarmist, but these last 2 games were frightening.

  • In reply to Waldock:

    Sadly I thought this was one of the better called games of the Bulls loses this year, except for Dengs.

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    sadly I did as well

  • In reply to Waldock:

    I was thinking the same thing as Sam Smith in that 4rth Quarter. If Boozer isn't scoring at all, then he shouldn't even be on the floor.

    Boozer scored most/nearly all of his points in the first quarter/first half. As Doug pointed out Asik gave us some good minutes, I would have given him another shot in the fourth, maybe he could have slowed Aldridge down with his length. One of Aldridge's advantages is his height(nearly 7 ft), neither Boozer or Taj can match up with that.

    Noah would have been huge tonight agianst him.

  • Classic Paxson blunder, Lamarcus for Tyrus, he's making him pay for that trade and Tyrus not with the Bulls anymore. I've never seen a power forward play such lousy defense with the performances from Boozer... Noah, you better hurry back cause everyone's hopes are riding on your triumphant return to save the teams lack of defense as of late.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    The one thing you can say about Carlos is that he's consistent

  • In reply to Reese1:

    You say that like he isn't one of the best GM's in the game...

  • In reply to bullshooter:

    He keep making trades like that one he won't be. Still has to prove he's one of the best, long way to go before that happens.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    The 2006 off season was a complete trainwreck for the Bulls. The Aldridge trade and the Wallace signing were god awful.

    However, outside of that single off season of god-awfulness, I think Paxson has done a very commendable job overall.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    I agree. He has hit two home runs..picking Rose when a lot of people(maybe 50%) would have picked Beasley.
    And the other one is picking Noah.....I remember so many people(experts included)criticizing the Bulls for not picking Spencer Hawes when they needed a low post scorer. Aldrdige was probably his biggest mistake but let's see what he does with the Charlotte pick and gets a good complementary player for Rose and Noah.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    yep, that Charlotte pick is essetially Tyrus' ghost. 10 years after the fact, it can come back as something even better, potentially.

    Just nitpicking, but for how long LaMarcus is, he should be a better rebounder. Still, I guess he has improved

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Overall, their turnover total was below their average but there were some key ones that really hurt. Portland zoned Boozer out of the offense and, as Doug pointed out, the Bulls couldn't make them pay from the 3pt line. Most significantly, IMO, transition defense in general and one-on-one defense against Aldridge killed them.

    I expected Aldridge to have a big game - not 40+, but a big game - because Asik is the only player with enough length to challenge him. When Boozer, Taj, and Thomas push him off block they're pushing him right into his sweet spot because Aldridge is a better finesse, mid-to-short-range shooter than he is a power guy, anyway.

    The Bulls didn't help on Aldridge very much (if at all). If you let a guy with a clear advantage have his way one-on-one you damn sure better shut down everyone else like the Bulls did against Orlando and the Clippers when Howard and Griffin had big nights but still lost. But last night they couldn't stop Miller, either.

    If the Bulls' defense had been this bad all season I'd be more concerned. The mistakes they're making now with a seeming lack of focus on the defensive end are symptomatic of fatigue, be it physical or mental. That's not meant to be an excuse, though. It happens in the NBA and teams have to figure out how to deal with it. I hope Thibs figures it out fast.

  • In reply to magestew:

    Good points. Aldridge is not physical...he would bang once and then pass it out. He is more athletic and I wish Thibs had trusted Asik to go at him a little bit or double teamed him for some time. This looks like a classic case of fatigue as you say.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    LA didn't mind banging in fact he should have gotten some more foul calls as he looked to be pushed on his fade away multiple time. I agree with your statement about no double teams. He needed to have the ball forced out of his hands at some point because it was clear he was on fire.

  • In reply to magestew:

    On a completely different note the N.Y self serving media/propoganda machine is reporting that Houston with Kevin Martin and Kyle Lowery getting the minutes are looking to move the fallen angel Aaron Brooks. Last season Brooks shot .433 with 19ppg including nearly 40% from three on six attempts. This year after an ankle injury Rick Adelman won't play him starter's minutes at 24mpg Brooks has sucked/numbers have plummeted. Recently he left the court for the lockeroom after being taken out of a game. Apparent discord has set in.

    With the Bulls screaming for shooting upgrades at guard period over Brewer, C.J., and Bogans who have all sucked shooting from the perimeter(and none are volume three guys), the quest continues. What about Brooks? 40% on six threes a game.

    But Houston already drafted a PF in Patterson so do they even want Taj or let this guy develop? And would we want to trade Taj for a 5'11 bomber who would need Derrick to play some two/SG to get some real burn? Answers are probably no and no. But keeping an eye open for available three shooters/scorers is something you probably have to do if your the Bulls saddled with three guys in Brewer, C.J. and Bogans who cannot can threes.

  • In reply to magestew:

    What's the deal with Kevin Martin from the Rockets? Any way we can get him?

  • In reply to Vedo:

    no

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    i told u Vedo ! lol !

  • In reply to deewaves:

    what, do you think the Bulls can realistically get Kevin Martin? For what?

  • In reply to Vedo:

    I'm OK !! But most people here don't want melo. It would be more harder to convince them to get Martin !! Because Martin is more an unidimensional player than Melo and less good defender !! But u can try to persuade them... lol !!

  • In reply to deewaves:

    look man, when you make a trade, you have to give up something

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Deng + Brewer !!

  • In reply to deewaves:

    If you're Houston, you would take Deng & Brewer for Martin?

    Oh man, and you thought Paxon was bad!

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Houston is in a bad position. They are surely trying to improve their team and how can't them accept 2 defender and a 18 ppg guy ? If not Deng + Taj Gibson !!

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Oh yeah, that's a great trade, now we have Martin and Korver starting. I'm sure we'll maintain the league leading defense starting the worst wing defender in the league next to the least athletic one.

  • In reply to magestew:

    Did anyone else notice that in the 3rd quarter Kyle korver was on the bench a for a majority of the quarter, while Bogans was in bricking wide open 3's?

  • In reply to JordanFanatic:

    that's the story of the year my man

  • In reply to JordanFanatic:

    Thibs is sometimes weird !! Bogans gave O points in 20 min !

  • In reply to deewaves:

    I'm seriously beginning to wonder WTF is going on between Thibs and Bogans.

    Offensively he is just tragic. Worse than last year, when he was the worst starter in the NBA.

    Defensively, though, he has been just as bad. There were at least 2 times last night that Bogans allowed guys to get behind him in transition after Rose attacked the rim and someone else took the shot.

    If you're a shooting guard that can neither shoot nor guard, really, why are you even lacing them up?

    Perhaps Brewer has realized that only the worst SG on the roster gets to start, which is why he has been so craptacular of late?

  • In reply to saigman:

    Thibs used one of Bogan's girls and Bogans has plenty of dirt on Thibs so that's why he is the starter! :-)

  • In reply to smiley:

    The killer part of the whole Bogans thing is this for me: With essentially the same core of players, and getting less production from Tim Duncan, the Spurs are significantly/monumentally/stratospherically better without Bogans than they were with him.

    They went from a pretty mediocre 7th seed to the top record in the league.

    Say what you will about other factors, but the plain truth is that they are better off without Bogans.

    Someone needs to point that out to Thibs, because it doesn't seem as if he noticed.

    Zero points in 20 minutes. Egads!!!

  • In reply to saigman:

    People have asked him about this in his press conferences. Same old answer...he gives us what we need or something to that effect.

  • In reply to JordanFanatic:

    Bogans is nausiating to watch.

    All he does is stand in one corner(fake wave his hand in the air like he is open and actually wants the ball. Then he meanders over to the other corner to get as far away from the ball as he can and does the same thing all over again.

    Del Thibideau is one stubborn mule, and a dumbass(or is that jackass) to boot.

  • In reply to magestew:

    Well I was at this game and since it is the only game I get to see live I had some good seats to witness a few things.

    1. Deng was taken out of the game by the refs plain and simple. Deng haters out there will blame him but it was clear to even the Blazer fans that two of the first three were very questionable. I wondered how he would get I. The flow in the scone half and sure enough they ran some plays for him right from the start. He was not on his jumper last night but I was impresses with his D and his ability to contribute even after getting fucked by the men in stripes.

    2. Bogans also did not lose the game for the Bulls. He did nothing on offense but his D on Mathews was solid most of the game.

    3. Boozer sure has offensive talent but really gets exposed on D. One thing I couldn't get from watching the games on tv however is that he actully seems to put a lot of effort I to it, mentally at least. He was constantly calling out screens and such which showed me his head was in it at least.

    4.Rose had his usual great night on paper but I was dissappointed with many things he did last night. Andre miller went off on him last night which in itself makes me shake my head. He also did nt attack the rim until the 4th quarter and without Deng in to do that in the first half as well, the bulls had no one to get the blazers into any foul trouble at all. Unlike many games this year he was getting most of the calls when he did go to the rack late in the game so it one of those what if situations. The thing that bothered me the most, and it might have been instructed to him by Thibs, was when Miller stopped his dribble at the top of the key Rose didn't come up tight and put pressure on the pass but constantly dropped back to like eight feet away and jumped up and down waving his arms. Why did this bother me so much? It resulted in multiple alleyoop thrown to LA. I am clueless why rose did this time after time letting a good passer in Miller see the floor and make uncontested passes.

    5. Korver was shooting well last night but the guy he was guarding, Rudy, also had an even bigger game. Rudy really impresses me with his athletism and overall skill. The pass he made when falling out of bounds was one of the better ones I have seen this year.

    6. Brewers missed dunk was a huge momentum killer in the first half. It was a bang bang play where he just lost his grip I guess but it very much ended a Bulls run. He WAS noticably pissed about it even minutes afterward.

    7. Comparing the two teams the Bulls looked to play a very stiff game. The Blazers looked to be having fun on the floor while seem to play very businesslike. There also seemed to be a lack of ball movement for much of the game. It seemed the Bulls were content to stand around and watch Rose do his this. Seemed like the assists were very low and they seemed to give some to Booz early in the game that I didnt even think were assists.

    8. Aldrigde killed them but Taj looked the best on him by far, even though his success on him wasn't really successful at all. Couldn't help but think about the tyrus draft day trade but was quickly reminded by my boy that we probably don't get Rose if we had taken LA.

    There were many things that could have made this game a blowout lose. Dengs foul trouble. FT shooting by both teams, did they Blazers ever miss? Oh yeah the first time they did they got the rebound, Aldridge domination, Bulls getting caught in transition, etc. Even with all this they played them pretty close on the road so it shows how far they have come. I think they need to go hard after a SG if they have any hope to get to the Finals this year and damn I miss Noah.

    Sorry for the long post but I only get to one live game a year and wanted to talk about it. Therapeutic.

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    Nice sideline/at game reporting. Any other Bulls fans outside of Chicago/when they come to your town if you go to the game you should do the same. Perspective on the road/at the games is interesting/something we don't get much.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    I saw many other Bulls fans there which was nice but was really hoping to get the MVP chant going, especially after his two-handed throw down but that was hard to do when the Bulls were losing.

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    that dunk was amazing. For all the dunk's aldridge threw down, that one was the best of the night, and I'd put it in Rose's top 5. He looked like he was still on the way up when he slamed it through

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    I mean HOME stretch!

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    It is good to get some good road live view about the Bulls when you can observe more than what you see on TV.

  • In reply to magestew:

    Sorry also for the typos, hard to do this on a mobile device and its auto correct guessed wrong on a few things.

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    That post was made from a phone? Wow... props man.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    and then he traded Tyson Chandler for nothing. They could have had a front line rotation of Chandler/Aldridge/Noah, but then probably would have never landed Rose

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Chandler was never traded for more than an expiring contract again after that which is what the Bulls got for him.

    They traded Chandler to avoid the luxury tax, Reinsdorf forced them to do it to sign Wallace.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    yeah that's what I said. They let go of Chandler after they got Wallace.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    just saying had those 2 moves you mentioned happened/not happened, the Bull's frontline would have been Chandler, Aldridge, & Noah the next year if they wanted to go with another big. Had they not went after Wallace, they could have kept Chandler & saved some cash

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    I agree that Paxson has done a good job at digging the Bulls out of the hole that Krause put the Team in but as far as being one of the best GM's in the game, I think he would have to help bring a championship back to Chicago. That would be a story of how he was able to get the Bulls back on top of the NBA. I believe I annoyed one of the homer fans like I always do cause I don't always agree with how the Bulls are being operated as an organization, I always welcome the little jabs tho cause they are quite entertaining.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Paxson has generally avoided really bad moves, but he lucked into some stuff too. The Eddy Curry trade, as anexample. He was basically in tears over trading Curry while I thought "holy crap what an awesome deal for us".

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Yes, anytime Isiah Thomas is involved in your deal, you're getting lucky

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Pax has done well I agree. But you can't deny Aldridge doesn't play with a chip on his shoulder every time he gets a chance to show the Bulls what they missed. Not that you were trying to deny as much.

  • In reply to bullshooter:

    Paxson best GM/exec in the game? That's sarcasm, right?

    While watching this game I was tormented by the ghosts of Tyrus Thomas and Viktor Khryapa. I had nightmares last night.

  • In reply to Edward:

    +1.looooooooooll. If paxson is a good GM that means all nba GM are awesome !!

  • In reply to bullshooter:

    Bulls are overrated...Thibs is an idiot...they shouldve beat Golden State...4 game losing streak on the way.........

  • In reply to calle3:

    and the sky is falling. Hit the panic button, plead for Melo, rinse & repeat....

  • In reply to bullshooter:

    Derrick Rose manned up and improved his FT shooting. It can be done if the player commits to it. Deng and Boozer are not committed to improving their FTs, both are shooting below their career averages which are mediocre to begin with.

  • In reply to bullshooter:

    How bad was boozer on the pick and roll last night? His defense is starting to hurt us. It hasnt been swept under the rug but we havent really discussed how bad he's been against premier PF's. Maybe when Jo comes back it'll be hidden but its very obvious he is terrible on D and its costing us.

  • In reply to bullshooter:

    Boozer does not move his feet when defending the pick and roll. His flash to stop the PG is token at best (non-existant at worst) and that alone sets up the breakdown of the entire defense. Teams will now focus on Boozer's man picking Rose. Deron Williams and Chris Paul are next!

    Good point about premier PFs. Boozer is undersized and therefore overmatched against the 6'10" - 6'11" PFs which are typically found on playoff teams.

  • In reply to Edward:

    Boozer yells out that a pick is being set, but then stays where he is and spreads out his arms until he's ready to turn around and see if there's a rebound.

  • In reply to Edward:

    Intensity is missing from the team. The time off made them relax a little bit and without Noah or a good SG, they are not talented enough to challenge good teams on the road. A losing streak was bound to happen in a long season but hopefully it doesn't linger too long.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Bulls still one of only 4 teams whose longest losing streaks is 2 games along with San Antonio, Boston, & OKC

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Just a note here... with Lu's two early fouls, Kyle Korver saw some extended minutes in the first quarter, playing with Rose, and instantly impacted the game - not so much by spacing the floor as by taking advantage of a defense that was keyed towards Derrick and finding himself wide open looks. Hopefully Thibs took note and will find a way to get him some more minutes earlier in the game - he puts SUCH pressure on opposing teams, I think TT is still learning how to use him best. Talk about your quick release!

    For the rest, let's hope these problems ease after Jo's return. It's clear we've been winning for some time now with several key members of the team not playing particularly well. Here comes the hope stretch of the season... I still gotta LOVE this game!

  • In reply to petert23:

    "Hopefully Thibs took note"

    As someone else mentioned, Bogans played 20 minutes and had zero points. So, I wouldn't hold my breath.

  • In reply to petert23:

    A side note on Korver(who really shoud be starting alongside Rose, even though he is not a 2 guard). He is a surprisingly good defensive rebounder, and a horrifically bad passer. Aanother guy who should never be allowed more than one or two dribbles before he shoots or gives up the ball.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    That "pass" attempt to the top of the key was pathetic.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    I actually like his passing. I think he is one of those guys who makes a couple of really stupid passes every now and then, but he also makes some great passes. I love the little quick pass he does on the curl, usually to Boozer when Boozer's man slides over after Korver's man gets picked, leaving Boozer wide open for the dish one dribble outside the low block.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Agreed. Their intensity is definitely down and it's hurting their precision. These are the dangerous "dog" days leading into the all-star break.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Ronnie Brewer just missed another dunk.

  • In reply to Edward:

    Look, despite the losses and at times struggling offense, I'm excited about the possibilities not so much of this Bulls team, but of this Bulls core.

    I admit I have not watched the game. Seeing yet another big in Aldridge torch us is hard to watch. I can handle a loss, but a poor defensive effort i.e watching your guys get smoked is hard to see. And season highs in points and free throw attempts by an old fart like Andre Miller is enough to make any hardcore basketball/Bulls fan wretch.

    Checking the box 40 free throw attempts for anyone(Portland) is usually a combination of home cooking, and poor defense both in position(letting your mand drive past) and biting on fakes(head and ball).

    Looking at Derrick's line he shot better then 50% and had 7 or 8 FTA's. But if Derrick is going to be the franchise guy, the bedrock for winning, he can't have off nights/not show up defensively. If that was the case last night with Andre Miller torching the Bulls including the 13 FTA's or chumping the other team for easy baskets, that's something that just can't happen. Not on a near or future contending ball club.

    Sometimes I have to remember that Derrick is only 22 yrs old. For myself it's easy and often the case that we damn somebody after an awful showing. But for me, in most games Derrick has been solid, and in many lately up until G.S. he was very good. His play on a reemerging Baron Davis with a hot home team in the Clips was just excellent including not biting on superb fakes off of penetration.

    No matter what happens I know two things. 1) Derrick Rose is a winner. He has the ability to dominate most ball games with his scoring, and has improved his defense to not being a weakness on most nights. 2) If Novemver Jo was for real we're talking a 14-15ppg 13 rebounds pg stud who's help defense, half court passing/savvy, and blocks to me are beyond all-star. I know many will disagree as absence makes the memory fade quickly. But my reckoning of an emerging Jo and November Jo particulalrly is a guy who can be the Robin to Derrick's Batman. If he can stay healthy..?!

    That's not saying Derrick will with certainty be able to bring a championship to Chicago as "thee man." But he's at least looking like he's in the ballpark. So to me the Bulls have a new coach and a new nucleus of players. This is not going to be their year.

    But if Derrick and Joakim are as good as I think they are/are going to be/(especially Jo) as superstars, then the other guys such as Brewer, C.J. and Keith who all seem like they just can't shoot, you get in some better supporting shooters in a Thibodeau defensive system that can make Kyle Korver defensively viable for god's sake, you bring in some Eddie House guys that while streaky can fire up numbers for you on many nights instead of the current crop who just cannot shoot from outside, and you could have a contender. Or you go get Mayo and then one other perimeter bomber to go along with Korver.

    As long as Thibs has the maturity and wisdon to see the developmental/long term big picture(doesn't chew guys verbally to death/ad nauseum/wear out his respect i.e Scott "the tantrum/lash out in the media" Skiles, I think if things fall right, we could have a winner on are hands in the near future. But they are going to have to show it this year by winning a playoff series against a N.Y or Atlanta for example. They do that somewhat covincingly then I think the promise is real.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    Nice post RW. Some nice longterm perspective.

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    Thanks man.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    It wasn't the case with Rose, he needs help defending the pick n roll

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    It absolutely was the case with Rose, don't try to spin off all the blame on the bigs. Andre Miller even came out after the game and said Rose is a great offensive player but he felt he is weak on defense that's why he attacked him.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Sorry, it was Batum that said it, then denied saying it after getting flooded with twitter spam from angry people who think Rose farts rainbows.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    he backed off and said their game plan was to attack him to get him in foul trouble. Maybe their plan was to attack him because the scouting report still says he is a weak defender. Who knows why he really backed off the comments though, but I guarantee Rose stuffs him at least once the next time they play

    RW was saying he didn't get to see the game, but judged by the box score that Rose was getting lit up. I don't think that was true. But Rose didn't stand out to me on defense(good or bad I suppose), what stood out was the poor help defense.

    It is hard to criticise Rose though. Not only does he do so much for the team, but he has the ideal attitude and work ethic to improve his weaknesses.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    I think Noah affects the game last night big time. Obviously defensively guarding LaMarcus, and help defense, but also with the offense besides Rose struggling in the 2nd half, Jo would make something happen & I have a feeling he would have gone to that running hook that he nearly has perfected with both hands

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Right on about Noah. He has played huge in some of these games against Portland. They definitely missed him last night.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    yep, he is another guy like Rose who steps it up come crunch time. I have not seen that from Boozer lately.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    I have said before they need one more shooter. I was wrong. They need 2-3 more, you are right. They need 2 more on the wing, and maybe a stretch 4. Brewer has been absolutely terrible lately.

  • In reply to Edward:

    Nice breakdown Edward. Feel exactly the same.

  • In reply to Edward:

    u're right man!

  • In reply to bullshooter:

    "We

  • In reply to Waldock:

    It doesn't help that he played a dissapearing act on the offensive end as well. Where have you been lately Boozer? Step it up!

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Teams are zoning Boozer out. He doesn't have the height or hops for high entry passes or lobs when he gets fronted. They're collapsing on him when (and sometimes before) he catches the ball to make him take tough shots or pass the ball back out. The pick and roll/pop isn't working as well as it used to because teams have adjusted.

    Boozer's defenders are jumping out to trap Rose and they're cutting off his passing angles to Boozer. That's where that 3rd guy has to come in. That 3rd guy should be Korver or Deng, and it often is, but neither of them is quick enough to get open on their own. Defenders that are good enough to get through the Bulls' screens can still challenge their jumpers.

    That's why it's so important that they hit those open 3's when they get them. That's also why it's going to be critical for the Bulls' title hopes to acquire a 3rd guy that can handle well enough to create his own shot or facilitate for someone else. Noah will hide some of it because he's a solid playmaker in the half-court but ideally it should be a wing.

  • In reply to Waldock:

    bulls loose against GS blazers, I cant even imagine whats going to happen against utah and hornets.
    Melo scored 50 pts yersterday night !! Even the lakers(champions) are interessed in carmelo !!

    http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=6101304

    Bulls are too pride to purchase Melo !! lool. keep waiting for ur savior : Noah !!

  • In reply to deewaves:

    "bulls loose against GS blazers, I cant even imagine whats going to happen against utah and hornets."

    What kind of absurd logic is that? If you can say that with conviction what do you think of making a similar statement 5 days ago?

    "bulls win against the Heat, Celtics, Lakers, Mavs, Magic, I can't even imagine whats going to happen against Blazers and Golden State"

    The NBA doesn't work that way buddy. And in case you forgot, the Bulls mashed the Blazers and beat GS by 40 earlier this season.

    I don't know what you mean by the bulls are to pride to purchase Melo but I'm going to assume you are making another absurd statement that doesn't warrant retort.

  • In reply to bullshooter:

    paxson one the best GM ?? that's why he spoiled all the bulls 04 team( which went in playoffs at 4th spot) :
    Hinrich = for nothing !
    BG = for nothing !!
    Curry = for draft pick (tyrus thomas instead of Adridge)= Thomas for flip murray = for mothing !!
    Nocioni = for salmons = for nothing !!

    He refuses to deal deng for Kobe, gasol or garnett !! wow ! what a good GM !! he is so good !!

    Get a coach with no experience(Vinny) to drive a team with no experience !!

    Give luol a heavy contract which makes him almost untradable !!

    He signed Bogans for SG ! loool !!

    The list of Paxson errors is infinite

    All paxson did good was to have a luck to draft Rose and landed Boozer. If not he is a crap as a GM !!!

  • In reply to deewaves:

    what??? curry for nothing??? joakim noah??? tyrus turned into taj gibson??? so our whole starting frontcourt last year was based off of eddy curry who couldn't play anymore.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    First of all Pax had to draft all the players you've listed.

    He moved Hinrich which gave us a chance to get our pick of the top two free agents including Lebron James and Dwayne Wade. Sure it didn't work out but it was a necessary and well executed move that led to our ability to get Boozer, Brewer, Korver, and CJ Watson so it wasn't' for nothing.

    We used BG up for all he was worth. The Pistons paid him out the ass and now he doesn't even start half the games. Do you forget that we had BG and Kirk with Rose? He knew that squad couldn't get it done so he let BG walk.

    Getting rid of Curry for a draft pick was a very well thought out move. Curry went on with a huge contract to do nothing for the Knicks, who also did nothing with him as a starter.

    Nocioni for Salmons? That move has basically had little to no effect either way, Salmons had some solid outings as a Bull and was eventually moved to make the free agency cap space that made this season possible.

    The idea that he wouldn't trade Deng for Kobe is absurd. Kobe was never coming here, he used it to force the Lakers hands to go out and get someone.

    The Gasol or Garnett trades propositions are also questionable but may have some legitimacy, so far that is your only semi-correct claim.

    He got Vinny as a hold over coach so they could save money and make it easier to fire him for a replacement that would be better suited for a growing team. Vinny served his purpose as Rose's first coach much like Doug Collins served his as Jordan's many years ago.

    The Deng contract is your second reasonable point. But the fact is he has averaged 18 and 8 over his career here and has managed to keep those numbers this year while becoming a third/fourth option. Deng isn't worth his contract, but he isn't a 6 million a year player either.

    Bogans was a request by Thibadeau and cost us virtually nothing. He was signed as a back up but Thibs has chosen to start him. That has nothing to do with Paxson, he doesn't make the starting lineup, the coach does.

    Paxson has drafted extremely well. Sure he got the luck of the first pick but many would have taken Beasley over Rose. He picked JoNoah. He picked Taj. He made the moves that got us here. He's not amazing but he's a hell of a lot better than the what you make him out to be.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Wow, your view of the past is really jaded with incredible bias. It's amazing to me that anyone would seriously look at what happened and make those statements as if they actually represented facts.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    deewaves, you're once again proving what an idiot you are. One of the sad things about Blogs is that any goat can express an opinion.
    By the way, I read that you're not fluent in English and want readers to excuse your grammar and such, but I'm convinced that's just a clever trick on your part to excuse your foolishness.
    "All paxson did good was to have a luck to draft Rose and landed Boozer," according to Mr. Idiot deewaves. Oh, Joakim Noah doesn't count? You're so dumb, you must be giving readers migrane headaches. I hope you do something foolish and get yourself banned!

  • In reply to Normie:

    Fuck U man !! who are u to insult me ?? Son of bitch !

  • In reply to Reese1:

    that blunder is great on paper, but Bulls probably don't get Rose if they had Aldridge

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    They get rose with 0.017% of luck !! so it's just a luck !! drafting thomas was just a dumb choice. its stops there.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    They had a really bad year that year, Aldridge likely would have given them a few more wins, and that would have been someone else's number combination that came up in the lottery

    Thomas was a dumb choice in retrospect, but not many at the time would have told you Aldridge was better than Thomas. MJ took Adam Morrison over LA for god's sake. GM's all make mistakes, Dumars who for long was considered the best, took Darko over Melo.

    Drafting is in many respects luck. Its a very inexact science.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    It's a catch 22 with Thomas, he had the raw tools to be a much better player than Aldrdige. People had been ripping Paxson for years for never swinging for the fences and taking too many safe character guys.

    Tyrus had superstar potential. He never lived up to it, but he had it. Aldridge really didn't. I preferred Aldridge myself, because I thought the Bulls didn't need a superstar. I thought Aldridge was exactly what they needed and was scared of Tyrus's low floor.

    That said, I understood why the Bulls went after Thomas.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    paxson one the best GM ?? that's why he spoiled all the bulls 04 team( which went in playoffs at 4th spot) :
    Hinrich = for nothing !
    BG = for nothing !!
    Curry = for draft pick (tyrus thomas instead of Adridge)= Thomas for flip murray = for mothing !!
    Nocioni = for salmons = for nothing !!

    He refuses to deal deng for Kobe, gasol or garnett !! wow ! what a good GM !! he is so good !!

    Get a coach with no experience(Vinny) to drive a team with no experience !!

    Give luol a heavy contract which makes him almost untradable !!

    He signed Bogans for SG ! loool !!

    The list of Paxson errors is infinite

    All paxson did good was to have a luck to draft Rose and landed Boozer. If not he is a crap as a GM !!!s

  • In reply to deewaves:

    You're criticising the Curry deal? Really? That was one of the best trades in the history of the Bulls. A free agent with a heart condition, dealt for 2 lottery picks, which has now turned out to be Noah & the Charlotte pick.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Curry with a heat condition was the bulls best scorer in 2005 when they were 4th. So ? u trade ur young promising player for a pick ? At this right moment, u can say that he curry is a flop but back in 2005, that was a bad move (he went 19 ppg in NY). After moving curry bulls had been looking for an inside scoring. And there's nothing more stupid than thinking Ben Wallace could be ur anchor in the low post scoring !!
    Ok let's suppose u're right about curry. and do u have argument about others point i made ?

  • In reply to deewaves:

    you're kidding right?

    What has Curry done since?

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    and at no point was that a bad move. Everyone thought that was a major, major steal for the bulls, come on buddy

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    in 2005 nobody could know that he'll get so fat that he couldn't play anymore. In 2005 Paxson was just so wrong about dealing curry.

    We got into the playoffs at the 4th spot with a young promising team. We lost because of curry absence in playoffs. After curry got traded, the promising team which were supposed to be better stayed average(8th and 7 th) the next 5 years. so ?? In 2005 with this team, moving curry was simply a bad move !! why can't u accept that ?

  • In reply to deewaves:

    You've convinced me, you're right. I wish we had Curry. I accept that. You are so right deewaves, thank you for showing me the light.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    and no one knew he was going to get fat once he got paid too, good point

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    but Deng though, oh man, you're right again, what were they doing giving him the money????

  • In reply to deewaves:

    When Jo comes back healthy and is effective. It will Hide some of Boozers defensive blunders,errors,mishaps,mistakes,etc. Similar to Ben wallace and rasheed wallace that year detroit won. The bulls absolutely need a SG that can take some of the pressure off of Derrick. I know we dont have the pieces to land anyone of major signifigance and thats really going to hurt us in the playoffs. I believe they should have made the deal for fernandez when they had the chance becuase no the asking price will be too much, and unfortunately there arent many good SG's available. Anthony parker wont help much, Courtney lee will help some, JR smith is very inconsistent (larry hughes) and any other 2 will the price will be to much. Im actually of the mindset that the bulls should get rid of CJ watson and go after TJ ford. He kills the bulls everytime we play INDY and he is someone that can actually run an offense. CJ cannot. Like at all. I mean coming off a Screen he rarely if ever hits the cutter. His handle is okay at best and he cant score with his left. If the bulls parted ways with him id be very happy. I like TJ's game and think he could help the bulls alot. If somehow the bulls were able to land Stephen jackson that would help them tremendously... Im not just throwing out random trades like One person who shall remain nameless. I just think of anyone that could be potentially traded on the team CJ would be first. I mean no one would take bogans as he's garbage. We need Omer (bad) Scalabrine is a 2k11 benchwarmer. To me it just seems like CJ is the best trade asset along with the charlotte pick and then JJ. Sorry this post is so long.. I read this column alot and have never commented except over the past few days (starting with "The MEMO II" so i have alot to say that id been bottling up.

  • In reply to StephanH:

    Welcome!!!

    You know....I agree with your breakdown of the possible SG options, but I think we need to take a risk if it won't cripple our options. JR Smith is inconsistant, but much more offensively explosive than Larry hughes (maybe like if Larry Hughes and Eddie House mated) and I would take a chance on Mayo as well. We're at the point where finding a super talented young SG with size, outstanding character and great defense probably isn't possible. We might have to accept someone with some warts to get a huge offensive upgrade....kind of like dating a "butt-her-face". I'm confident Thibs, Noah and Rose can keep them inline.....

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Actually, it was obvious from day one that Curry was destined to be a fat lazy slob. I stated early on that his best case scenario was Kevin Duckworth, and worst case was Oliver Miller

  • In reply to BigWay:

    has shaq turned into a fat guy ?? It wasn't obvious about curry.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    "in 2005 nobody could know that he'll get so fat that he couldn't play anymore. In 2005 Paxson was just so wrong about dealing curry."

    DUDE. That's the whole F'ing point of being a GM. Its called foresight aka seeing things before they happen. Paxson obviously saw Curry's character and knew he would bust once he got his payday. THAT IS WHAT A GOOD GM DOES. You've literally just beat yourself in your own argument, quite impressive.

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    that u sayin is comopletly stupid. It's like saying before having a good contract , curry didn't have enough money to eat well. Do u think u need 10 million to become obese ??

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Melo scored 50 pts yersterday night !! Even the lakers(champions) are interessed in carmelo !!

    http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=6101304

    Bulls are too pride to purchase Melo !! lool. keep waiting for ur savior : Noah !!

  • In reply to deewaves:

    I'm interested in Blake Griffin too, maybe we can get him?

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Lakers are an organization that know what it takes to win deewaves, they are willing to give up their franchise center cause they can. They don't have a forward like Boozer that has no clue on how to defend which is why the Bulls absolutely cannot trade Noah as long as Boozer is with the Bulls. I just hope for Gar/Pax sake that keeping Noah will pay off in the form of a championship...ONE DAY!!!

  • In reply to Reese1:

    +1

  • In reply to Reese1:

    The Lakers don't have a forward with no clue how to defend? Last I checked the Lakers still had Lamar Odom.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Denver lost.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    + Googleplex

  • In reply to deewaves:

    "Bulls are too pride to purchase Melo !! lool. keep waiting for ur savior : Noah !!"

    That doesn't even make sense, man....

    ...like "literally".

  • In reply to evilhoban:

    go take ur dictionary !

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Go get your GED!

  • In reply to evilhoban:

    I'm a in college baby. Next year Master is waiting me !!

  • In reply to deewaves:

    deewaves, fill us in on the name of the college and your real name so we can check to see if you exist and if you're a massive liar!

  • In reply to deewaves:

    You write like Tommy Wiseau speaks.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Curry has always been a bum. He scored points but he was a terrible rebounder, apathetic defender, and turned the ball over at roughly the same rate he ate twinkies.

    Getting any sort of first round pick, let alone two lottery picks, for him was the steal of the century.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    There was also no way we were going to get Kobe...Keep dreaming.

    We chose to keep Deng over BG...and the way BG is playing, I'm happy we chose Deng. Either way we would have had to give one of them an overinflated contract.

    If he didn't Hinrich, no way we would have been able to compete for Lebron/Wade/etc last summer, and would have been rocked by fans, media, etc. for not doing everything he could have to get them. While I was sad to see Kirk go, I understood the logic (and the rest of Chicago did too).

  • In reply to bpmueller:

    They throw hinrich away because they thought they could land 2 big FA ! There were enough cap space for one. When 2 days before the decision bulls gave a present (hinrich) to wizards, i thought they were sure they gonna get Bosh + wade or James. But nohting happens.
    They had enough space to get one but they throw hinrich because possibilities.

    Anyway, they could have at least traded BG and Hinrich for draft pick. Seriously u can't just let go good players like that !!

  • In reply to deewaves:

    I agree to that. But I am sure they tried to dump Hinrich for a draft pick before the trade deadline last year. I agree about hanging on to Gordon too long. I think the feeling was to find out what they had in Rose before they dump Gordon. That was their issue. We can comment on things in hindsight. Look, it is easier to replace somebody like Hinrich than get somebody like LBJ and Wade. That's why they had to go for it.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    u said "Look, it is easier to replace somebody like Hinrich than get somebody like LBJ and Wade. That's why they had to go for it. "

    I can also says :

    Look, it is easier to replace somebody like Noah than get somebody like Melo. That's why they has to go for it.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    You can say that. You'd be wrong, but you can say it.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    ...Trying to entice Lebron or any of the other FA to play together in Chicago. How does this not make sense? You're really going to tell me that right before "the decision" you were upset that we got rid of Hinrich? Even if it increased our chances of getting Lebron?

    And with BG, we chose Deng over him, and he was going to be a free agent anyways.

    Get over Melo, he's not that good, and we don't need him. We need a SG.

  • In reply to bpmueller:

    I didn't say i was upset that we got rid of Hinrich. I thought they alveady had a verbal commitement from one the big FA then they were trying to convince an other. Which wasn't the case. They were sure about nothing !

  • In reply to deewaves:

    They couldn't have a verbal agreement because of league rules. The draft (when they committed to move Hinrich) happens before free agency.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Drafting Rose was not luck as I wrote earlier. Half the GMs and the fans wanted Beasley. He is not a risk taker by any means. He takes only calculated risks. Look, the way you win in the NBA is having a stud player(top 5/8) player. It looks like the Bulls have one now even if it is not this year. They are in a great position money-wise compared to 90% of the teams. So we need to have some patience.

    BTW, don't keep talking about Melo. It is insane. He doesn't want to come here. Your good inputs are lost.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    where do u see carmelo's name in that post ??

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Jesus Christ.....is Mappy cloning himself and unleashing them on us out of spite or what?

  • In reply to evilhoban:

    aahahahahah

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Agree..If the goal of the Bulls is to win championships, whether it is luck or by design; Rose has a better chance to get us a championship than Aldridge ever would have.
    That said, 2010 Free Agency put us behind a few years. The lure of LeBron and Wade made us empty everything and essentially set us back. In hindsight, I don't think they could have anything else because nobody was ready to give pieces for Hinrich or Salmons. But that said, Paxson should have made the decision to go with Rose and trade Gordon for good picks/pieces and that indecisiveness that year cost us.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    agreed, giving away those guys for nothing could have payed off if you could have gotten more than 1 major FA. I don't disagree with the plan though. Everyone pretty much said if LeBron & Wade wanted to win, they should have came to Chicago. Paxon did his part, & if he didn't, could you then imagine the backlash?

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    While true, Rose is just a fortunate blessing for the franchise there. It doesn't make the scouting/drafting decision better to pass on Aldridge. It just means it worked out okay.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Yea I thought the same, Aldridge gets pumped up for Bulls games moreso than any other regular season matchup because of how the Bulls took Tyrus over him. Hey I'd be pissed too, he's spent the last 5+ years in Portland when he could have been living it up in Chicago. WE NEED NOAH BACK.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Classic case of results based thinking, you're looking at where we are rather than how we got there.

    At the time of the draft the Bulls had what seemed to be a solid core of good players in Hinrich, Gordon and Deng. None of them were off the charts athletes though, and none of them were really take over the game type players. What the Bulls needed was someone with the potential to be absolutely dominant if they were going to win.

    So Paxson drafted Tyrus because he judged that although it was unlikely he'd ever reach his ceiling, his ceiling was higher than Aldridge. Obviously we'll never know the full thought process here, but I'd be shocked if Paxson didn't know it was a gamble and didn't expect the most likely outcome was Aldridge was better. But if they just took the conservative path they'd never win a championship so he had to take a risk.

    Lets be realistic here, Aldridge is a very good player and this year he's probably playing at a level about as high as anyone could have hoped for, but he's still not quite an all-star. If he's the best player on your team you're probably at best in the situation that Portland is in, hovering a touch over .500. At the time the Bulls didn't have Rose and needed someone who might end up better than that. Hence they picked Tyrus.

    I think the worst mistake the Bulls could have made was to pick Aldridge and be happy being a pretty good team that has a series of second round exits. Aren't you always saying the goal is the championship? Isn't drafting Tyrus an attempt to swing for the fences and win a championship? You can't have it both ways, wanting to make moves to win but not being willing to take risks.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Interesting, makes sense.

  • I didn't say it was all to blame on Rose, and I didn't say he's a bad defender, I said Portland felt he was a bad defender, attacked him and it worked.

    But apparently, as referenced above, Rose farts rainbows so you're not allowed to be even slightly critical of him.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Miller really did most of his damage when Rose was forced to switch off him or help elsewhere as well as the things RPK mentioned. There was little to no one on one exploitation.

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    I didn't even say he was exploited one on one, I said that you can't just blame Boozer for it. Everyone knows Boozer is a bad defender but up until the last couple of games the team managed to work out how to defend anyway. Boozer hasn't suddenly become worse, the rest of the team have become worse at covering for him.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    "It absolutely was the case with Rose, don't try to spin off all the blame on the bigs. Andre Miller even came out after the game and said Rose is a great offensive player but he felt he is weak on defense that's why he attacked him."

    I got the impression from you saying that in reference to RW's comment that he predicted Rose took the night off defensively which RPK said he didn't and then you came back with the quote above. I agree you can't place ALL the blame on the bigs. But in a help oriented defense I felt that Rose did his part, the failures were very much Boozer's, and Kurt Thomas had a poor defensive night as well help wise.

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    Maybe I interpreted the initial comment wrong, I didn't mean to say he completely took the night off, but I don't think he was great either, he's played much better. I guess I'm expecting more from Rose given what he's shown he's capable of.

    I also though Batum's comment was interesting, precisely because it doesn't gel with Bulls fans thoughts. We think Rose is better defensively, but if other teams still think he might be the weak link it will be interesting to see if teams attack him more after the Blazers had success with it.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Doug, the reason that the Bulls lost the lst 2 games is that they did not play the defense that we have come to expect of them. The kind of defense that the Bulls play requires a high level of intensity. I will agree that if the Bulls had performed better in any one of the three areas you described they might have won. But you must admit that if the Bulls played their brand of defense this game would have been a win.

  • haha

  • Well you're the one who said Rose should get a pass because he's awesome on the offensive end, how do you respond to that other than to suggest being critical of him is not allowed?

  • See my comment below really, Boozer's been bad on defense all season, I'm not debating Boozer being bad, I'm saying that despite Boozer being bad Rose has been able to do better than he did this game. If anything I'm criticising Rose because I believe he's shown he's capable of better.

    And yes, I do believe people are often blind fan boys of their favourite team's players. I'm guilty of it too, I almost certainly over rate my favourites like Noah and Brewer, isn't that the point of following sport that you feel an attachment to some of the players? Talking about farting rainbows is just a light hearted joke about it, it wasn't intended to be an insult.

  • exactly, I don't know what I did to this guy, be he always takes the opportunity to insult me. We usually agree on most things too. oh well, some people I guess

    All I was trying to say was that his lack of defense didn't satnd out to me when watching. He had a couple of bad fouls, but the defensive problems were team wide. Miller had a very quiet 27

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    he got several intentional fouls towards the end sending him to the line as well, I also remember 2 fast breraks when he was fouled, and not by Rose.

    I don't think Rose had a bad defensive game.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    I don't mean to insult anyone (well other than MrHappy, I'll admit to that). As you say we agree on most things so I didn't mean to do anything but disagree on the idea of not holding Rose somewhat responsible (when the defense is that bad the whole team is responsible really).

    "Farts rainbows" was supposed to be a reference to the Rose/unicorn thing, but obviously it worked better in my head than in writing.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    its cool man. I get the unicorn thing now too

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