Derrick Rose must be the MVP because he's the only Bulls all-star

The Boston Celtics have four all-stars.  They're on pace for 63 wins.

The Miami Heat have three all-stars.  They're on pace for 58 wins.

The Atlanta Hawks have two all-stars.  They're on pace for 52 wins.

The Bulls?   They have only one all-star, and they're also on pace for 58 wins.  I guess our star is just a lot better than everyone else's. 

Did Carlos Boozer get snubbed?  Luol Deng?  

I'm not sure, I think both are more deserving than Ray Allen, but apparently the coaches don't think so.   Al Horford?   Why the hell is Al Horford in there?   Because Atlanta
starts him at center?  He's no more a center than Carlos Boozer.  He
just plays there because Atlanta has too many good forwards.   

In any case, the coaches must thing that Derrick Rose is a freakin bad ass.   He must be crushing the league with his sheer awesomeness, because apparently he doesn't have any star help, just some role players next to him.

The results aren't really shocking to me, but they are somewhat disappointing.  The Bulls are tired for the third best record in the NBA and have a 20/10 guy who didn't make the all-star game.   That just strikes me as somewhat ridiculous.

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  • For me, Boston has too many players despite their record which is in part based on fundamentals, savvy and defense, and not the best individual performances/stars. These guys are there for record and past winning in the playoffs.

    Looking at previous playoff and championship success you wonder what Bosh and Horford have done? Honestly, if November Jo is for real(which I think he is) then he is going to make this offense potent every night, and not just through stretches. Winning ugly will be a thing of the past when the current Derrick, emerging second half(3rd/4th quarter) Luol Deng, and break starting/double team busting Jo with a legit arsenal of offensive moves all play together. Throw in Booz, Korver's a gamer look at his playoff stats, C.J. can play etc. etc.

    This teams all-star showing is going to have to come with Joakim's return, and carry on into May(and June?!).

  • I totally agree. Rose and Thibs are MVP and COY at this point. The sad thing is if Boozer and Noah were healthy, I'm 100% positive they'd both be All-Stars right now.

    Deng is so under-rated, he can't even make a snub list. The Bulls could win the title this year, have the best record in the NBA this time next year, and Lu still wouldn't be mentioned as an All-Star. I'm not saying he's a true All-Star. I'm just saying he'll never get in like Ray Allen, Mo Williams, or Tayshaun Prince... a role player riding the success of a very good team.

  • In reply to kbar17:

    Tayshaun Prince was never an all-star.

    I actually don't think Deng is really deserving, it's just that I think Ray Allen is even less so.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Don't think that Deng or Boozer are allstars, but you could make an argument for both of them over at least one guy who did make it as you said about Allen.

    Boozer could be in over Bosh, or Horford. I think that the NOah/Horford debate would have been interesting if NOah had stayed healthy.

  • This spread out road trip is killing me. Wade was just plowed by Howard. Looks painful. All to similar to Rose's run ins with Howard.

  • In reply to Jmax:

    True ... but it looked a lot more humorous happening to Wade ;-)

  • In reply to Jmax:

    Al Horford is the Anti-Deng. Horford is putting up "All Star" numbers - 16 pts, 10 rbs, and 1 blk. Over-rated. Josh Smith is averaging 16 pts, 9 rbs, and 1.8 blks. Is he even the 2nd most valuable Hawk?

  • In reply to kbar17:

    To be fair, Horford sneaks in under the BS that he's a center and Boozer/Bosh aren't.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    I agree with you that he is a power forward, but he does play center for his team on a regular basis.

    He is basically the opposite of Tim Duncan, who is really a center but plays some power forward, or used to when he actually had a center on his team(David Robinson)

  • In reply to Jmax:

    Those All-Star reserves are RIDICULOUS. I think Deng deserved it over Boozer by a little cause what he does on the court really goes unnoticed and Deng never gets mentioned on ESPN or anything. The video of Deng's life on Bulls.com really made me appreciate a guy like him much more. You guys should look at John Hollinger's chat wrap on ESPN.com from today also. It's a big debate about Rose for the most part.

  • In reply to joeacook3:

    Hollinger is not a Rose fan. He says Westbrook is having a better season.

  • In reply to joeacook3:

    Hollinger is just crazy. How can he say that Deron is better than Rose ?! westbrook better than Rose ?! he is out his mind that hollinger. This thing of PER is getting me upset. Just look game an it's obvious that rose

  • In reply to deewaves:

    he is just a rose hater : damn he said he prefers give Paul the ball in money time instead of Rose. Maybe Paul is more a playmaker than rose but Rose is a killer at the end of games.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    The Bulls IMO will have to gain some post season success in order for Deng and Boozer to get nods in future All Star games. I reply don't think its a snub towards them but pretty much a prove to the league that you are deserving all stars. Both Deng and Boozer have somewhat inconsistent seasons this year thus far with injury from Boozer and an up and down first half of the season from Deng. I still say if they both can come up big in the playoffs and come out strong next year they will have a better chances to make the team. And Noah if became stay healthy next year will be a given if he can put up the same numbers as this season.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    excuse typing from mobile phone.

  • In reply to joeacook3:

    Luol Deng didn't make the all-star game when he was the best player on a 49 win team, that was his real chance, I never thought he'd make it as the 4th best player on a 58 win team.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Deng's really the third best player given the injuries though. The 4th best guy on the Celtics is in. The third best guy on the Heat is in.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    They've been in the game in the past though. It's easier to keep getting voted an all-star than to get voted in the first time, there's a certain amount of inertia. I'm actually OK with that, if a guy is a proven player they should get the benefit of the doubt even if their stats might be slightly down or whatever.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Just a thought... This may imply that DRose is an MVP... OR it might suggest that Thibs is COTY, since the larger implication is that the Bulls are greater than the sum of their parts. I'd like BOTH awards, frankly! Yah, it's early late... is COTY decided on the regular season only?

  • In reply to joeacook3:

    lets face it, Deng's game does not translate to the allstar game, he is boring, even on his best day.

    People want to see the most exciting stars at allstar games, this probably was the deciding factor betweeen Blake Griffin and Kevin Love.

  • In reply to joeacook3:

    Just curious, but how many of you guys even voted for Deng.

    Likely not many, if any.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    I don't blame people for not voting for him, but we have created the negative buzz around him ourselves by whining about his contract and bringing his name up as a trade piece every time someone is available. And I don't have anything against people who have done these things, its their opinion, but those same people better not be the same ones crying about him not getting any all star recognition. No one on the outside will ever see someone as an allstar level player when his own fans are trying to have him traded away.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Voted for the same guys every time I voted ... which was about 25 times.

    Rose
    Deng
    Boozer
    Noah
    Joe Johnson (no way I was voting for Wade)

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Toughest position to play in the NBA is the PG position right now....every night you are going against the best guards. Rondo,Dwill,Nash,Brandon Jennings,Westbrook,Paul,Baron Davis,Tony Parker etc... the list goes on. And D Rose is arguable the best 1 out of all those guys. As of right now....D Rose is the MVP.

    Deng isnt a All star imo. Rose creates most of his opportunities so he gets overlooked.

    Boozer should be a all star but he missed to many games.

    The real snub here is Kevin Love. 21-22ppg an 15reb AND one of the best 3 pt shooters in the game right now. He has a double double streak right now that could end up being the best in history!!!! Plus the guy cant jump worth a lick and hes doing this. He should get in.

  • In reply to Jmax:

    Off topic....but even when you bet on Miami and want them to win; they are impossible to root for. They are despicable
    Note: Orlamdo stinks.

  • In reply to Waldock:

    Actually, I think SVG is a very predictable coach. He lives and dies by either 3 pointers or Howard converting free throws. Both are of the low percentage variety. That's why they need some kind of new offense and also some defense.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    good point...cause when you see the way the Bulls played last night, good defense and hitting open 3's makes winning look easy. It's how the good teams win consistently.
    I'm sure Orlando is in a slump and not very good.
    I can't get a fix on how good Miami really is.
    As has been previously discussed here, a lot of iso (I guess that gets you on the all-star team) and fair defense.
    But one thing is for sure; they don't play a brand of ball that is enjoyable to watch.

    Back on topic: Next year, after the Bulls play in the Finals this year, we'll have 4 All-Stars.

  • In reply to Jmax:

    It may be killing you/us, but it is good for the team and the players as they need a few days off after the heavy schedule in January and December.

  • I think Ray Allen doesn't deserve a spot. When a team is so deep, it means the talent is more distributed which isn't the case with the Bulls and the Heat. That said, Bosh being such a wuss doesn't deserve a spot. I think being a wuss or a fake tough guy should count against a player for an all-star selection.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    I agree with you on Allen. I think Bosh's spot is still fair. If Boozer was healthy all year I think he would have made it.

  • **** all those coaches! They will be sitting their fat asses down on their couches, watching Deng, Boozer, & Noah play with the rest of our team in June!

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    These idiotic analysts were hyping Felton more than Boozer, Deng or Noah when that team is barely over 500 and they already have Amare. I believe there is not a whole lot of analysis going into these selections.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Boozer is an all-star, Deng is not.

    Chris Bosh and Al Horford don't deserve to be in the all star game.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Either Doug and K.C. share a brain or Doug stole this topic idea from K.C.

    http://twitter.com/KCJHoop/status/33315447671627777

    ...mmm

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I would wager that the idea was floating around in K.C.'s head WAY before the results were released. I know it was in mine. I had the article half way typed out several days ago.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    REALITY CHECK:

    - Deng is not an All-Star. 25 times this year he scored under 17 points.

    - Boozer is not an All-Star. He missed over 15 games this season already.

    - Noah was going to be the Bulls 2nd All-Star, book it, but he got hurt.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Damn, Happy nailed one.

    We might also get snow in Austin tonight.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    boozer deserves more than coward Bosh !!

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Agreed..as always

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    REALITY CHECK:

    You don't know what you're talking about ... still.

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    It's amazing the ridiculous stats you come up with.
    Did you forget to check out these stats?

    Times scoring under 17:

    Bosh - 18
    Pierce - 20
    Allen - 25
    Horford - 29
    Garnett - 26 (out of only 39 games btw)

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    OWNED

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    It would have been interesting to see if Noah would have gotten the vote over Horford if he was healthy all season, same with Boozer.

    I do agree that Deng's not really an all-star, but neither is Ray Allen. Deng's bringing you far more defense and rebounding than Allen with the same scoring totals, and Allen isn't creating his own shot anymore either.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Can't fathom your logic Doug. Noah is a legit BIG MAN. Horford is not, never was during his college career. He played power forward to Noah's center when they won back-to-back national titles at Florida during their three years there. Noah's had a better year than Horford, period! You seem to be the only one, apart from Hawks fans, that needs convincing of that.
    You disappoint me.

  • I'm not surprised in the slightest bit that Rose was the only all-star selection. I also won't be surprised when the MVP results come out and Rose isn't selected in favor of players with similar individual numbers and considerably better help. I'm not convinced Rose isn't the MVP, but I am convinced someone else will win it regardless.

  • In reply to WearShades:

    sadly I am too

  • In reply to WearShades:

    I hope they use this as another chip on their shoulder and an extra motivational tool. Jo's coming back, and this combined with the snubs could really help them gel extra tight.

  • In reply to GranvilleWaiters:

    I said same thing last night...we're mad now and as soon as Jo comes back it's on

  • In reply to msdarrla:

    Grimy Time is ON!

  • In reply to WearShades:

    I don't expect Rose to win the MVP either, and I really don't know if he deserves to win the MVP. I just think the way the all-star voting went supports the idea.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Doug, I/m curious as to why you say that DRose doesnt deserve to win, who is your MVP? and why?

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    I think his chances are significantly lower than where he truly is at in the MVP race. It is all of course subjuctive, but there is a bias against young players & I think his chances of winning are about 1%. He'll get some 2nd & 3rd place votes however, but ultimately I don't know what that will do for him.

    I don't believe there is a player in the NBA more game planned against than Rose, and he leads the NBA in FGI (field goal invlovement: % of teams total field goals he has scored or assisted on), while playing good D & being an important cog of the best D in the league. & he is the leader of this team which has the 3rd best record in the NBA.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    So would you say that Chicago's chance of having the MVP this year is 1.7%? Please? Would you?

  • In reply to Davidmon5:

    yes, poetically that's about right

  • This is absolutely ridiculous.
    Boozer deserved it.

    Bosh didn't.
    Allen didn't.

  • And it should be noted that there are some holes or weaknesses in the PER formula.

  • none but look at the team he's on and how the media is kissing the Heats ass, that's why he's on the team.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    and different players have different expectations from the coaches in the league evidently. Bulls players other than Rose will just have to earn respect, quite sure its nothing personal.

  • I think Bosh got in just because of LBJ/Wade and the general Miami publicity with them being on national TV all the time. The Bulls have probably been exposed the least amongst the top 5/6 teams as are the Spurs. No wonder there are only three players from these teams

  • This is just payback for when BJ Armstrong was an all-star. ;-)

  • On the bright side Deng and Boozer should play with a chip on their shoulder the rest of the year...plus Deng could use some rest.

  • I can see the logic behind the snubs...Deng mostly goes under the radar, even when he's hot, people still tend to ignore him. And I think Boozer's injury hurt his chances, and he looked very rusty the first few games back (which is probably the only few games people outside of Chicago watched, or noticed). Now, I don't think Allen should have made the team, and I think the Hawks are riding of the success of last season. It's just frustrating to see so many players from the same team on the all-star team.

  • I agree with a lot of guys on Deng. He goes unnoticed and just because he plays all facets of the game(offense, defense and moving without the ball etc..), he is never noticed on tv unless he is going for a rebound or taking a shot. Look at how many people on this board want to trade him for anything and complain about his game because his offensive stats look bad some times. No wonder, the general media and the coaches didn't vote him in..

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    I'm diggin' Deng these days. GO LUOL!!!

    GO BULLS!!!

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    A lot of Bulls fans have themselves to blame for Deng not even being in the conversation. As you say schaum, how many times do we here Bulls fans talking about how bad Deng's contract is? How many times is he brought up first and foremost in trade talks? Plus it hurts him that other teams usually tell the insiders they won't do a trade with us because of Deng's contract. I'm not saying the guys that talk mad shit about Deng are in the wrong, or that his contract isn't a little too high, I'm just saying the way his own city treats him has something to do with the lack of national respect he gets.

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    agree. and everytime we voted for Rose, we could have voted for Deng as well. Wouldn't have made it as a starter, but could have gotten more recognition, instead of the idea being laughed at by the national media like it was.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    I voted every day online for Rose, Boozer & Deng. Sorry it wasn't enough.

  • In reply to msdarrla:

    I did too, and Noah, and occasionaly I wrote in Brewer

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    also, I didn't vote for one other major opposing contender

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    true that

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