Clippers buying out Rasual Butler, rumor is he's Chicago bound

Per ESPN:

Source: Clippers buy out Rasual Butler

The Los Angeles Clippers
have bought out Rasual Butler, and he plans to sign with the Chicago
Bulls, a league source told ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher.

Butler must clear waivers before he can sign with the Bulls.

We'll wait to see if this happens, but if so, I can't say I'm too excited.  He's a career 40% FG% guy and a career 36% three point percentage guy.   How is this any better than Keith Bogans?

He's also having a considerably worse year than Bogans this season.    Why disrupt your chemistry, create a guard glut, and chew into your cap space (which can be used to absorb someone on draft day) in order to get Butler?

K.C. Johnson has confirmed the Bulls interest.  Quite frankly, I simply don't get it.

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  • The Bulls have 12 men on their roster. They're below the minimum and they have to add somebody, better a veteran who can defend a couple of positions than a D-Leaguer. And the cost will probably be about the same anyway.

  • In reply to walrus:

    Never mind...12 is the minimum.

  • In reply to walrus:

    I heard 13

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    i'm pretty sure it's 13 as well.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    I like the idea of signing troy murphy to 3 million, then letting him go on on wednesday.

  • In reply to pinkizdead:

    You really want to lose our entire ability to absorb players for nothing on draft day just to stop troy murphy from heading to boston or miami?

    That could stop us from getting Lee or Mayo on draft day. I'll let Murphy go where he pleases instead.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    That's what I thought, but a friend told me 12...maybe he's wrong. If it's 13 then the Bulls need a player and I'm fine with a veteran swingman who can play D and shoot a little for depth and insurance.

  • In reply to walrus:

    it is 13. they need to sign someone here pretty soon I would venture

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    The minimum for a season is 13, but you can be at 12 for up to two weeks at a time. The Bulls need to add a player within two weeks of completing the James Johnson trade.

  • In reply to walrus:

    No need to lose sleep over this. It's just injury insurance. If he brings his shooting (and shotblocks!) to Chicago well and good. If not, just play the old hands.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    i tottaly agree with Doug. Butler isn'T any better than bogans. OMG he shoot 32% from 3pt line and he is also 32 FG%. That are terrible number. No i dont want him.

    i dont want hamilton neither. yes I'm not high on Hamilton. IMO he isn't in the basketball shape. he hasn't played since a long time. I wonder if he could be good as he used to be before playoffs.

    In my mind, we should go after TJ ford. I heard that he isn't to be bought out. He would be a vergy good back-up PG(i like his ball handling and dynamism). it would also allows to CJ waton to play SG (he is a good shooter).

    Knicks beat Miami heat. It'S a good new becuz right now we tie miami on the standings but it shows how much knicks are dangerous.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    excuse me, i wanted to say TJ ford will be buy out soon.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Worth noting that he's probably better than the 32% because he's barely played. I'll give him last year's numbers or 40% and 33% which is still pretty horrible.

    I like TJ Ford as well, but I doubt we pursue him, and I'm not sure if he'll get his buyout or not.

  • In reply to walrus:

    I like this move as an insurance policy, & a cock block move, nothing more

  • He's definitely not the scoring guard we're after. Plus he's too old and he got cut by the Clippers (!).

  • In reply to davebursill:

    +1. his numbers are too bad !

  • In reply to davebursill:

    13 is the minimum & the Bulls MUST sign someone by March 8

    It could be a D-Leaguer or a waived veteran - but they must make a signing

  • In reply to bulls6:

    In that case then you go and get the veteran -- just in case. At the same time, I'd hold off as long as possible before signing Butler in the unlikely event that Hamilton accepts a last minute buyout. Players must be waived by March 1st to be playoff eligible, so if that date approaches and no Hamilton buyout, then I would think Butler becomes a better option than a D Leaguer.

  • In reply to walrus:

    Completely agree Mitch. No hurry; wait to see what other options come up throughout the day. If none Butler's temperament is perfect not to create any waves.

    I love the idea of giving Troy Murphy the money just to stop him playing for the Celtics or Miami. Here a negative would be greater than the positive.

    Doug, make sure Gar/Pax are aware they have the money to throw at Troy to stop him becoming a threat to the Bulls. (Defending stretch 4's is not the Bulls strength so why not have him on our team. He could even start ahead of Keith at the 2 lol)

  • In reply to walrus:

    Sign Troy Murphy!!!

  • In reply to walrus:

    Sign Troy Murphy!!!

  • In reply to walrus:

    Sign Troy Murphy!!!

  • In reply to walrus:

    Sorry about the repeat posts - hope you get the message though lol.

    If Celtics or Heat do get a starting calibre, good character, double double, stretch 4 for nothing that is a massive upgrade to their bench and imo will cause the Bulls problems in the playoffs.

    We have 3-4mill to offer him; I say do it. I would prefer to have him on the Bulls and not having to play against him. The Bulls have always struggled against stretch 4's especially now we have Carlos' lack of D.

    If GarPax are to do anything to give us a shot at the title this year it must be stopping Troy becoming a Celtic or Heat player.

  • In reply to Jersey66:

    You have to remember the money we offer is prorated for how many games he actually plays.

    In that case, us offering him 3 million will end up to be actually around 1 million vs 300k or so, it's probably not enough to sway Murphy in any way.

  • In reply to Jersey66:

    I'm really on the fence about this one. On one end, Butler has shown he's not only a three-point shooter. The past two seasons(2008-09, 2009-10) he averaged a career-high 11.2 and 11.9. He shot under 40% from three both years, but his mid-range game is right on par with his three-point game.

    However, this season he's shot it poorly, but he isn't getting consistent minutes and has played in just 41 games. His minutes have fluctuated, and you can't expect anyone who has up-and-down playing time to shoot it consistently.

    Given that he's a simple waiver-wire pickup after a team bought him out, it isn't that bad of an acquisition. It's better than not doing anything.

  • In reply to Jersey66:

    The Choice is between:

    Adding some insurance towards an ECF or Finals push.
    vs.
    Leaving some flexibility to possibly add a better player in trade on draft night.

    Do GarPax feel they

  • In reply to bulls6:

    I don't see much negative in the idea.
    Bring him in, see if he's still got any of the old Rasual.
    If not, then we have no need to keep him.
    If he plays decent D and hits an open 3, then why not keep him around.

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    Exactly...the Bulls werent going to get anybody great...we all knew that. I would argue that courtney Lee isnt much better then Rasual Butler. And we get Butler for free.

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    you guys realize that this year he has barely played... that's why his stats are so low. his stats for the past 2 seasons:
    08-09 NOH 82 74 31.9 0.433 0.390 0.782 0.6 2.7 3.3 0.9 0.6 0.7 0.72 1.94 11.2
    09-10 LAC 82 64 33.0 0.409 0.336 0.841 0.5 2.5 2.9 1.4 0.4 0.8 0.96 1.48 11.9

    He shot close to 40% on the hornets showing that with a player who draws attention(chris paul) he can get open and hit the three. Also in the 03-04 season he shot 47% from downtown! so you guys can hate on him because he barely has played this season.

  • In reply to bulls6:

    He's not a D leaguer like I thought the Bulls would bring in to fill out roster - therefore, good.

  • Since January, Bogans' play hasn't been bogans[esque]. Lately, bogans has been playing like an actual nba player.

    They need consistentcy from the 2 guard position. If bogans' isn't willing to live up to the bogans' standard of sucking, the bulls are an organization that's willing to bring some1 who will.

  • Butler actually isn't as bad as his stats would suggest. I've been to 8 games this season and he looked remarkably solid at the beginning of the season. He can play 20-30 minutes if you need him without visibly hurting the team, and he's pure sweetness from the corner-three spots (though less consistent elsewhere around the arc).

    Plus his name makes him sound like a Disney villain.

  • If the Bulls can't bring in no one else off the waiver wire, Butler I'm sure will not hurt the Bulls precious chemistry. It's not like he's coming to the team to start, but if he comes in and gives the team a significant lift as far as his perimeter scoring... who knows he just might crack the starting line up and Bogans can go back to his normal role... off the bench.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    You can't play four shooting guards. That hurts your chemistry. It's not that I think Butler is a bad guy, but if he plays at all he hurts the chemistry.

    He's not better than anyone the Bulls have, and a lot of those guys are not playing enough minutes as it is. You take 10 more minutes away from Brewer, Korver, and Bogans for Butler and it does hurt chemistry.

  • Thonus, what's the matter with you!? Lets not get carried away with Bogans....just cause he's hit a few 3's doesn't mean he's the man for the job! Butler is 6'7, as good a defender and PROVEN to shoot better when given consistent minutes. He's a big upgrade over Bogans, enough with this CHEMISTRY NONSENSE! He is THE WORST starter of ANY playoff team.....Butler would be an ungrade and now we can BANISH Bogans to his REAL role as the 12th man!

  • In reply to sukid09:

    Over the past two seasons Bogans has a higher overall FG% and a higher overall 3% than Butler.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Bogans has also played on great teams where he finds plenty of wide open shots.Spurs an Bulls. Butler played for the Clippers. Butler is a upgrade over Bogans

  • Rusual Butler has never been good.

  • I'm not too excited about Rasual either, but he has pretty good length. He can play defense without negative impact against a lot of players at either the 2 or the 3. He put up a couple seasons in the past were he shot the 3 well on pretty high volume for better teams then the Clips. I don't think its that unlikely he performs at least a little bit better under Thibs then VDN. As someone else mentioned, we have to use some of our cap space regardless. Butler isnt as cheap as a dleaguer, but if someone better gets bought out we may have to offer more than the min to convince them NOT to go to Miami or Boston (if we even can). Other sources sound less convinced then Bucher. I still hope they can do better. But if Butler does come here, I'll be satisfied if he can provide replacement level play for an average of 4 minutes per game to benefit one, Luol Deng for the rest of the regular season. Maybe like his insistence on using Bogans, Thibs will be more comfortable using Butler who can fake space the floor and fake good defense then using Korver or Brewer who only do one thing well.

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