Bulls @ Trailblazers 9pm on WGN

The Bulls convincingly beat the Blazers early on in the season in Chicago.  However, as we've seen with Chicago's 11-11 road record, they're not the same team on the road as they are at home.   Of course, the Blazers won't have Brandon Roy  and the Bulls will be without Joakim Noah neither of which were all that effective in the first game anyway.

The Bulls will get Carlos Boozer back and will have to find an answer for LaMarcus Aldridge who single handedly kept the Blazers hanging around with 33 points on just 19 shots plus 9 free throw attempts with no turnovers.   A repeat performance by Aldridge could spell trouble for Chicago.

  


Keys to the game

Put Thomas on Aldridge

Boozer's hasn't shown an affinity for getting out on jump shooting PFs, and his post defense isn't nearly as physical as Thomas's.   Aldridge has been playing great, but he's a Bosh-like big man who doesn't really want to be roughed up in the post.  Playing Thomas on him is likely to keep his game on the perimeter firing away jumpers.

When the Blazers go bigger, Boozer can play Przybilla where he'll really just need to worry about getting the rebound and not have to make too much effort on defense.   Dante Cunningham isn't really a threat to shoot away from the basket to drag Boozer out either.

Run Derrick Rose isolations when you're in trouble

The Blazers have some pretty athletic wing players to trap Rose in a similar fashion to Golden State, but the achilles heal of that group is Miller at PG.   While Batum and Matthews can handle the job at SG / SF to create athletic traps, Miller doesn't have the ability to stick with Rose at all to do his part.   

In order to defeat the speedy guard trap, have Rose start up high in isolation.  If they go with a trap right away, finding the open man should be much easier at this point as the floor is already spread out, rather than having a player moving away from the action on the pick.   Rose will also have time to run away from the trap as the trapper will have to come from a greater distance rather than being in the area.

The Bulls can't run isolations all night long, it puts too much pressure on Rose and it lowers the involvement of the other players too much, but when they get in trouble going to a Rose iso should yield a high percentage shot.

Stay focused on defense

The Blazers typically score from all positions on the floor, except perhaps center, so the Bulls need to be judicious in their double teams and traps.   The Blazers can hurt them by making the right passes and allowing everyone to get shots up.

The Bulls individually need to focus on their responsibilities to make sure the defensive scheme doesn't break down.

Attack the offensive glass

The Blazers are one one of the slowest teams in the league offensively.   They aren't likely to punish the Bulls by pushing the ball hard, so have players go in and attack the glass knowing the MO of the Blazers is to walk the ball up the court anyway.   That can give the Bulls a few extra possessions offensively that they wouldn't normally get and isn't likely to cause much downside defensively.

Final thoughts

I like the Bulls in this game, the Blazers are a slow down team, and the Bulls are a great fundamental defense.   I think it's difficult to operate in the half court against Chicago, and the Blazers want to operate in the half court.   As such, you've got two mediocre offenses and one elite defense.   I like the odds of the team with the elite defense and that's Chicago.

Random side note ....  Anyone else think it should be a rule that all west coast games should start no later than 7pm Pacific time so that they're far more watchable for East Coast fans?   Man do I hate 9:30 starts.   Thank you Portland for blessing us with a 9pm instead. 

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  • I would like to say the same, that I like the Bulls in this one but one its a road game against a team they had their way with back in Chicago and two we all saw first hand against G S how teams like to play the Bulls on their home court after the Bulls blow out a team at the UC. Focus as always will be key to trying to get the win for the Bulls and everyone is accountable for their defensive assignments, if those things are done by the Bulls along with winning the rebounding battle the Bulls might be able to pull out the win.

  • At this point in the season the Bulls should work on 1) fine-tuning their D so its better than the Celts D for the playoffs and 2) making sure DRose doesn't get overused.

  • We need to start another winning streak. Let's get this one!!

  • Yeah, at least Chicago is in CT. ET has to wait until 10:10pm.

  • The Utah game starts at 7 our time so 8 your time!

    I hope we get this one and the next one because I will be at the Utah game!!

    Doug I just listened to your podcast now you got me excited how realistic is the Iggy trade this summer? Have the Bulls showed any interest

  • I don't know what the Bulls do when they're on the road as far as practice, but I hope they worked on these extended doubles.

    When they first emerged against Philly/Cahrlotte, I knew the Bulls (and Derrick's) poor response was going to mean trouble. Blame it on personnel which is true we have no other first rate slasher to take advantage. Blame it on Derrick as sometimes I do think he gets intimidated/stymied just from a mental/agressiveness standpoint. Blame it(or not) on Thibs not having Derrick give the ball to the big and take off to the hoop for the return or the big run to a spot and "pick off" the defender as other teams do/get away with moving screens in this way(or three point line isos).

    Blame it on whatever you want, but certainly a potential MVP/elite scorer can find some ways to break it regardless, and not completely get shut down. Noah also is the perfect big to slip that screen/extended double and make teams pay slashing to the rim or dishing to another cutter.

    I still think the Bulls can make it to the ECF if they figure out a way to handle this problem, and Jo returns to November Jo by mid March. Of course without a quality scorer at SG they are not ready to win it all..?

    I'm just glad they are facing this now, and I hope every team goes totally extended double on Derrick so that the Bulls have to face this thing, and figure it out. Of course as Michael had a guy named Scottie Pippen to help with such a predicament. Still, even without a second slashing (super)star IMO there are ways to defeat it, and rip it to shreds. But don't ask the 2006 Mavs who got suffocated to death by hyper extended doubles by Pat Riley/his Miami Heat Henchmen.

  • I would say Boozer will be the most important guy on the team today. He has dominated Aldridge when he was with Utah and hope he continues that.
    Rose should be back to normal with a slower Miller on him compared to Ellis.
    After the last game with the Warriors, I look forward to the next game with Miami. We need to see if LeBron and Wade try to crowd him as I don't think there are such fast wings on any team on the Bulls schedule before Miami.

  • FYI:

    Who remembers Derrick Byars and his connection w/ the Bulls?

    - He had 43 points on Saturday in a D-League game....WOW!!!

    Call-up?

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I rather we bring JJ back after the road trip and actually play him. :-)

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    On another note;

    Wanted: NBA team with Elite winning record and superstar needs a quality scoring wing/SG to make the jump to title contender. Interested call Jerry R.(or Gar/Pax) at 1-888-UCCO.

    Other then the G.S. falling down, with the Bulls record and D-Rose's overall play you hear NBA media guys wondering if Chicago is good enough to justify a "win now" move at SG?

    If they could get: Courtney Lee(I'm not thrilled with his NBA resume/numbers), Rudy Fernandez(the guy's shooting in the 30's FG's and .330 from three no thanks), or O.J. Mayo(his second season numbers are phenomenal, and he's got the high draft pedigree - despite his problems, I don't see a guy who's a write him off loser). So you wake up, and Taj is gone along with other players to make it work, the Charlotte pick and our picks this year and another/next?

    Personally, I would only trade Taj for Mayo and no other guard. Even then what do you play Noah on quicker PF's and switch Booz on those ocassions to the many non-offensive/stiff centers in the league?

    Right now if I could get Mayo for Taj I'd be tempted, but I don't know that I'd make that deal. I know Mayo is as popular on here as dogsstuff on your shoe, but he's shown for a whole year he can be an upper tier SG. Everyone hates draft picks for winning now, but look at S.A. with ready to play guys like Blair and Neal. Is there a late blooming SG/wing Junior out there who could step in, and help us out? Probably not, but excellent PG/starter I'd say a definite maybe. So then you move Derrick to SG, and he adds 7-8 pounds of beef to his arms which personally I think you could at least debate he could use.

    I know all crazy talk, but I wonder with as good as the Bulls have been will Jerry R. go along for an all out pursuit of a quality SG for this team?

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    Agree with Mitch on OJ Mayo...It looks like there is a premium to pay for potential or superstar(understandable) types in the NBA compared to the other leagues where accomplishment counts for more. Obviously, it is because of a shortage in high premium franchise talent(only 5-8 players...LBJ, Wade, Durant, Rose, Griffin,) which any team can use to build a champion. Others really have to keep hoping to build/sell their fans on hype and potential. That's why not many trades might go down when Houston wants an arm and a leg for Lee(BTW, Houston's new age GM like Portland wants to win every deal rather than make it fair..so nothing happens)..

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    Sweet. i get out of class at 9. I should be able to get home and watch the game.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    ohh Doug Thonus aknowledge that chicago has a mediocre offense !!

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Usually when people are wrong they wont admit it. It was plain as day about the offense not being one of the best. So I look for a second round out in the playoffs depending on the team the Bulls draw and if the Bulls fall to the 4th or 5th seed, possibly a first round out with N.Y. with them possibly getting Melo and ATL IMO having more talent. All of this can change but a lot of people are concerned with the Bulls going over the god forsaking luxury tax. Rose has already said he's not going anywhere, maybe he will be like Jordan and be underpaid for a few years to help the Bulls get some championship caliber players to come to Chicago. Reinsdorf said he would be willing to go over the luxury tax if it meant winning the championship... I say... PROVE IT!!! And 1 side note, the UC is always sold out so why should he???

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Ok? Boston is ranked 11th in offensive efficiency, Orlando is ranked 9th. It's not like were up against vastly superior offensive teams. We have been missing our two most efficient offensive players in Boozer and Noah, each at separate times, for the entire season. There isn't a noteworthy gap between the Bulls and any team in the East in offensive efficiency besides Miami who is ranked fourth. Offense doesn't outweigh defense, as you can tell with the Bulls one game behind Miami who ranks much higher on offense yet lower on defense than the Bulls.

    And how exactly do you want JR to prove he's willing to go over the cap? Any trade can only put us over the cap for future seasons, not this one. I'd say JR has already proven he's willing to go over the cap with signing Noah to an extension. Plus resigning Rose will put us over the cap, and obviously JR plans to retain Rose when he's up for an extension.

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    Sorry but yes, Boston is a vastly superior offensive team. The best Way to measure offense is FG% and the best way to measure Dfense is opponents FG % :

    FG% opponents FG %
    Miami 0.473(2nd) 0.425 (2nd)
    Boston 0.50 (1st) 0.437 (3rd)
    Chicago 0.461(14th) 0.425 (1st)

    http://www.nba.com/statistics/sortable_team_statistics/sortable1.html#top

    Do u see the difference ? they are all the 3 best defense in the nba ! But miami and boston still among the best in offense whereas chicago has an average ofense. That's why if we don't fix it now by Melo or a Good SG, this team won't never beat Boston or Miami in playoffs !! We have so many guys who can't know down open shots (Brewer, watson, bogans, thomas, gibson). I would count even deng becuz of his irrgularity !! he sometimes misses open jumper !!

  • In reply to deewaves:

    The best way to measure offense and defense is points per 100 possessions, not field goal percentage. Boston looks good by field goal percentage but that hides the fact they don't get to the line that much, turn the ball over a lot and are the worst offensive rebounding team in the league.

    Miami are 4th, Boston 13th and Chicago 19th in offense. Chicago, Boston and Miami are 1, 2 and 3 in defense in that order.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2011.html

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    I don't know how your site use stats but i can't believe boston is rance 13th in offense. It's just too low

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Bulls are the best rebounding team in the NBA, which equals more possesions, which somewhat negates a pedestrian shooting percentage. Also, FG% does not factor in turnovers, turnovers forced, 3 pt shooting, & FT's

  • In reply to deewaves:

    God!!I hope this Melo $hit gets done ASAP. I am just tired of this nonsense coming into each and every blog and derailing the main topic every day.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    amen. I can't wait til he ends up in NY next year at the latest and everyone sees noone had a chance but the Knicks, just like with LeBron/Wade/Bosh & Miami.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Exactly

    Not. Going. To. Come. Here.

    Why do people still talk about him? Jesus.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Maybe nonsense to you but these things could happen that will make it that much more difficult for the Bulls to contend for a championship for a very long time.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Its not that we see it as nonsense. Its that all the suggestions that the Bulls can get him is nonsense.

  • In reply to bcz1980:

    It's not even nonsense, it's a calculated attempt by ESPN and elsewhere to drive page views. Reprinting the same "Melo going to New York" story for 9 months doesn't get people to click through so they have to make stuff up.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    exactly

  • In reply to Reese1:

    As for Melo....im really hoping he goes to New Jersey because I dont feel like going up against New York with Melo an Stat on the same squad...plus they probably have some more money for another solid player to add to that mix. Does anybody know when the Trade Deadline is???? Cuz thats when the real stuff starts happening.

  • In reply to Csharp:

    Good analysis of the Bulls needs Csharp.

  • In reply to Csharp:

    the 24th of february !

  • In reply to Csharp:

    If Melo is patient, and can take the salary hit to sign straight up in July, then they can be really scary.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Word. SO tired of hearing about him.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Reese1...ya, i think we are kinda stuck too. Like Deewaves was saying even JR Smith would be a nice upgrade. I got my eyes on JR Smith or Mayo. I think those 2 will at least give us a better option at the 2 and COULD give us a chance to contend. Then all we gotta do is find a decent backup PF. Could be a guy in the draft or free agency or trade. But ya, if we get into a bidding war for a player, you never know what could happen because we might not have the money compared to other teams. You just gotta hope they want to play in CHicago then. Bulls could start Mayo or JR Smith or just bring them off the bench for scoring....so something like this could work too...

    Rose,Watson
    Brewer,Jr Smith or Mayo in 6th man role
    Deng,Korver
    Boozer, Kurt Thomas (Draft Pick maybe 2011)
    Noah, Asik

    Bulls get another 3 point shooter in Mayo or Smith to spread the floor for Rose, plus we would have Kurt Thomas for another year to play some solid backup PF minutes. Asik ends up getting more time at the Center spot which would really help out his experience.

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    Ive been saying since the summer that Atlanta will be good and if New York does get Melo....thats going to make them better too. Bulls need someone that can attack the rim. Deng cant do it, or not very good at least. We need to make a move for a SG....either through free agency,Draft or trade....were gonna need somebody to make this team any kind of contender. Everybody already knows this though...so we will see what happens.

  • In reply to Csharp:

    are there good names in free agency ??

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Afflalo is restricted but the Bulls will be over the cap virtually & there likely won't be an MLE, would have to do a sign & trade or sign minimum contracts.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Nope, which is why I say why wait on free agency when we all know that other teams are willing to spend a whole hell of a lot more than the Bulls to bring in good players to contend. I think the Bulls are stuck with what they have.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    jason richardson? probably will want to play for a contender. probably not gonna get big time money. why not chicago???

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Just like GS, the 2nd unit looks builds a lead. Brewer misses a dunk. The starters come in give back the lead.

  • In reply to Csharp:

    Another route the Bulls could go is to go after OJ Mayo. You might have to give up a draft pick an Taj for him (hopefully just Taj but doubtful)but then you at least have your starting 5 lined up and you can worry about a backup PF later on. Find a decent guy through draft or free agency or trade. Lineup would look like this for now....

    Rose, Watson
    Mayo, Brewer
    Deng, Korver, James Johnson
    Boozer, Kurt Thomas
    Noah, Asik

    This fixes your starting lineup, so now you got a pretty darn good player at every position. I do think Mayo is a little overrated like another poster said, but i do think he could strive playing for a good team finally. Rose,Noah,Deng and Booz could all help him get his head on straight.Only problem that could happen is what kind of money would Mayo be wanting once his contract is up?

  • In reply to Csharp:

    personnally i prefer JR simth than mayo becuz of defense

  • In reply to deewaves:

    i would much prefer mayo to smith. both have similar levels of defense but smith is a headcase and is more likely to just do something stupid on defense while mayo will be consistent.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    I can't watch our guard play anymore. We need a shooting guard.

    Chicago Sports is ......

    Great defense with bad offense.
    Running game with no passing game.
    Power hitting with no base runners.
    Quarterback with no receivers.
    Shooters with no post game.
    Post game with no shooters.
    Peanut butter with no jelly.
    Cereal without milk.

    I can't take how the national media laughs at our teams and say they would be great if they had _______.

    I would love a complete team to cheer for.

  • In reply to kbar17:

    Ham.... no burger.

  • In reply to kbar17:

    yeah follow our leads (ressel, deewaves and happy) !!

  • In reply to deewaves:

    I want to go on record as saying I'm not in the "Get Carmelo" camp. We'd give up pieces to upgrade SF while our SG spot would still be a weakness. We would then have no picks, young players, or cap space to fix SG and an empty bench. I'd like Melo if he was a point-forward, a defensive stopper, or a 3 with range. His strengths are to similar to Rose and Boozer.

    I just hate having a glaring weakness that even the most casual fan can see. I'm bothered because it took so long to get a post player. It took almost five years. Bulls fans have been patient for a while now. I just would like to see the Bulls complete the squad sooner than later. Get a shooting guard that can shoot and guard!

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Second unit guys look better than the starters really, although at least it looks like if we can stay close enough maybe Rose can take over and carry the team at the end.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    I mean, seriously, this is just getting ridiculous. The dude's getting a dunk every other time down the floor.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    I said when Deng had a stretch of 20/8 on good percentages that the Bulls are hard to beat when he players that well ... well the inverse of that is it's hard for the Bulls to win when Deng is clanking it like this.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Looks like Noah was praying when Deng was shooting his free throws.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    End of 3rd, it sure could be worse. Down by 3, Bulls are 7-12 free throws/Portland 16-17

  • In reply to deewaves:

    From the free throw line:

    Us 7/12
    Them 16/17

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Did Thibs really pull all of the starters in the 4th? I hope that doesn't backfire.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    There's hope Brewer finished a 2 on 1

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Get to within one then blow it back out to 8, ugh so frustrating.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Boozer HAS to play tougher D or we can't ever come back

  • In reply to deewaves:

    We know Boozer is bad on defense but Aldridge is just abusing him.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Deng's foul trouble in the first half hurt us.
    Noah's absence has hurt us.
    Lack of a legit SG continues to hurt us.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    I hope the guys who think our defense is great and we can trade Noah will realize how important Noah is for our defense against good PF/Centers(Aldridge, Bosh, Amare, Garnett,Gasol etc..)

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Aldridge should really be an All-Star.
    It's clear why Boozer and Deng aren't.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Oh well... another team with a little bit too much scoring power for the Bulls especially on the road.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    It is not the scoring power or our offense but our interior defense sucks except for some flashes from Asik and Gibson today. That's why Noah is so important to this team.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Boozer's scored 4 points in the 2nd half.

  • In reply to Salrock:

    yeah man, where did he dissapear to? My goodness! He needs to put up more than 13 shots all game as well

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Full credit to Aldridge, he's been awesome to end the game (well, all game really).

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Career High

  • In reply to Salrock:

    Yeah if there's an upside for Portland in Roy's injury it's that they're learning just how good Aldridge actually is.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    he got robbed with the selection of Duncan over him.

    That Batum kid is nice too

  • In reply to Salrock:

    My goodness, Portland historically doesn't run and gets 18 fast break points. We get 4.

  • In reply to kbar17:

    Not being able to catch a pass, make a layup, put back a shot at the front of the rim, lazy passes, getting beat back on defense, giving up open ally ops,
    This is not the mentality of an elite team.
    The really good teams think every play is important.

  • In reply to Waldock:

    Yeah, the sloppiness is just killing us here. If we were just playing fundamentally sound basketball we would be up double digits.

  • In reply to Waldock:

    Bulls basically living off 2nd chance points right now. Blazers playing really great on offense.

  • In reply to Waldock:

    Urgh 4 wide open threes all bricked in the quarter so far, 2 by Deng, 1 by Rose, and 1 by Bogans. Shots where guys had all day.

  • In reply to Waldock:

    The adrenaline which carried the Bulls without Noah is shrinking...
    Bulls just don't seem to have pep in their step..

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    That's what I'm seeing. They look tired, low energy.

  • In reply to Waldock:

    Does anyone want to even try to guard Aldridge? I guess not.

  • In reply to Waldock:

    Looks like all that intensity and aggressiveness has gone down the tubes. Even when the Bulls lost to NJ,Phi at the beginning they didn't play so badly. This looks like a losing streak waiting to happen.

  • In reply to kbar17:

    kbar,

    They need Melo, not an AVERAGE SG.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    +10

  • In reply to kbar17:

    I hope all of the hype will calm down a little bit. I keep hearing about All Star snubs, MVP talk, and contending for title. We'll see the real Chicago Bulls when Noah gets back, but we won't be a complete team until we add another guard. The offensive spacing is poor. Rose has to work way too hard on offense. Noah would have helped tonight, but keep in mind the Blazers were without Roy, Oden, and Camby.

  • In reply to kbar17:

    Except the Bulls played reasonably well offensively, the game was lost on the defensive end. You're not going to win many games where you give up 109 unless it's a run and gun team which neither team was.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    I'm also seeing bad offense leading to bad defense.

    When you get turnovers in the back court or jump shots that go long, it doesn't give your defense a chance to set. Noah would have helped on Aldridge, but the lack of spacing is leading to bad shots, turnovers, and opponent fast break points.

  • In reply to kbar17:

    I guess it depends on what you mean by bad offense.

    Turnovers and long rebounds happen, and you have to prepare for them. It's not the turnover or rebound that allows the transition chance in most cases, it's the players not being one step ahead of the game and prepared for it. It's up to the team to start playing defense before the shot is even taken or the turnover happens and have the right positioning that players are in the right spot to get back and stop the break.

    I guess you could call that part of the offense in that it happens while the team has the ball, but it's really defense to me, much like a guy leaking out to start the break before the team grabs the defensive rebound is offense.

  • In reply to kbar17:

    Does Thibs do the same aggressive coaching from the sideline on the Road as he does in Chicago?

  • In reply to kbar17:

    Well said.

  • In reply to kbar17:

    Portland zoned Boozer out in the 2nd half and challenged Rose. Rose got his points but no one else stepped up. They missed Noah in this game. Aldridge is too long for Boozer and Taj and Asik just ain't ready. I'm surprised the Bulls never really doubled Aldridge. I guess they were afraid of giving Portland the 3.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    damn did u see rose spin move ?? this hasn't finished to surprise us yet !ohh my goodness !!

  • In reply to deewaves:

    The only thing that really surprised me about that is that he wasn't called for a carry.

  • In reply to Csharp:

    Ya i think there are some...but nobody thats going to put us over the top i dont think. Plus im not sure we will have much money. I think CJ Miles from Utah is a free agent lol We could get another Jazz player in here haha

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    If JR wasn't cheap, he would have signed Ben Gordon an extension. We surely be wouldn't be there tryin to get an SG. If GarPax were good, they wouldn't let hinrich go for nothing, they would've at least asked for Nick young or a draft pick in retourn. Hinrich is far better than brewer and KK !

  • In reply to deewaves:

    You're an idiot. Say the Bulls landed Lebron James and Chris Bosh this summer. Would you then say GarPax should have kept Hinrich? Please use your head.

  • In reply to Dileg:

    Silly !! Garpax gave up hinrich becuz they thought they could land 2 FA. They knew there's no use to throw way hinrich just for one FA. Even Reindorf said he regrets hinrich. Do u think getting a 1st round draft pick from wizards would have wasted 2010 summer plan ( h

  • In reply to deewaves:

    ?

  • In reply to deewaves:

    great, then they wouldn't have had a shot at Boozer. Hey, how has Gordon been playing the last 2 years BTW?

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    To land just one FA. they didn't have to loose both hinrich or BG. they could have kept one of them and still landed Boozer !! BG or Hinrich is much better than Brewer+KK !!

  • In reply to deewaves:

    They lost Hinrich to try & get 2. No way they were luring LeBron if all they had was room for him. You had to try and get those superstars this summer, that was a no brainer. If they hold onto Gordon you couldn't do that.

    How has Gordon done lately? No one mentions that when they make the keep Gordon argument. He has been terrible in Detroit. And defense? You want Thibs to run his defense with Gordon logging major minutes at the 2? No way, Bulls amde the right move, and they will soon get a better 2 than Gordon.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    the bulls were among the best defense in 2007 when they destroyed Miami 4-0! And BG was in this team so ...
    D fense is just determination, hard work and intensity. Defense doesn't demand talent, everybody can defend !!! It'S just a mentality : Yes Thibs gave the bulls this mentality ! Do u think Korver is much better in D than BG per exemple . do u feel me ?? that's why i think ur argument about carmelo can'T defends has nosense !!

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Wow! Dwight Howard eyeing N.Y. or L.A. if the Magic can't win the championship. Just imagine a team of Carmelo Amare and Howard, with Miami being in the east as well... Bulls don't stand a chance, at least they will be under the luxury tax tho.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Are you deaf? I just explained to you how the Bulls have shown they will go into the luxury tax. And they are actively looking to trade for a SG. For once outline what you would have them do, I'm all ears. They went after Melo but Melo wont sign anywhere besides NY, regardless of what WWW spews from his lie ridden mouth. Melo's own agent Leon Rose has told teams Melo will not sign with any other team. The Bulls have been rumored in talks with every single available shooting guard. So I repeat, what else do you want them to do?

    And if you honestly think the Knicks can somehow break the salary cap rules and sign Howard or trade for him after they will have already thrown away all of their trade pieces for Melo you are madly and sadly mistaken. LA could trade Bynum for Howard but even then, Kobe has a year or two left. The Magic as they are constructed now has more talent than the Lakers would in 2 years with Howard added and Bynum subtracted.

    I'll say this again, the Bulls are literally scheduled to be over the cap once Rose is signed. So your argument that "at least they will be under the luxury tax tho" is completely and utterly false based on facts. I agree they will need to go further over the cap in obtaining a SG, but as they've shown in pursuing Mayo they are willing to do that as well. But not at the expense of making the team worse by trading away Taj, Omer, all our draft picks, and a blow job. If you were GM you'd make Isiah Thomas look like Pat Riley. Please respond with some reasonable argument, or just mumble on about wild accusations based on zero factual evidence.

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    can you comprehend?!! I told U a long time ago that I don't respond to people that don't know what they are saying So I will let this be my last time responding to U and I will let U keep sounding stupid every time U type something.

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    that's wrong man. Melo said that his wish list is : NY and chicago. Bulls management refuses just to give Noah !! it's just as simple. U guys overrated Noah !! He is just a defender, right we don't need much more D !! We need to shot better in order to beat heat and celtics !

  • In reply to deewaves:

    every bulls fans knows that Reinsdorf is cheap and that the bulls have never traded for a star ! everyone ones knows that we have one the most incompetent management. Drafting Rose and landing Boozer was nothing but a luck !!
    they failed to get james, wade, bosh, stood. Boozer was just a backup solution !

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Man, do you just type things randomly? Or put any thought to what you are writing? Reinsdorf being cheap? This is the same Reinsdorf who has:

    1. Paid the entire Jay Williams contract when he was not obligated to in any way whatsoever.
    2. Paid Michael Jordan 28 million for the single season in '96 when he felt he owed it to him even though Jordan didn't complain.
    3. Continued to pay Jordan his BASKETBALL salary when he played baseball.
    4. Would have gone into the luxury tax were the bulls able to sign LeBron, Wade, Bosh, ect.

    You just plain old, straight up, have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    well said

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    Do u think it demands a lot of sense or intelligence to pay the player in the world 28 millions. I mean MJ was so good that anyone as a owner wouldn't be cheap when it comes to pay him. so ur argument isnT solid.
    Same thing, Any owner would go in the luxury tax for MJ kobe and lebron. That's not an argument.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    +10. that's why we need Melo. Buz even with a good SG facing NY(with Melo) and Miami will be a nightmare !

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Melo insisting on NY only is the worst kept secret in the NBA. The only reason he doesn't come out & say it is because he still plays for Denver.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Don't keep replying to idiots deewaves cause this guy seem to think he knows it all when he is way, WAY OFF

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Howards going to LALA land just like all the legendary centers do, Wilt, Kareem, Shaq. Howard seems more LA than NY

  • In reply to Reese1:

    +1. From my point of view GS game is an example of what is going to happen in playoffs. Rose is good, very very good but has his limit a like lebron (last year in playoffs vs boston).

    Chicago's got a great D, boston's got a great D, miami's got a gread D, so who is going to win ?? The winner will be the best attackers. So forget about chicago, cuz when Rose is going to be double-teamed by wade and aroyo or rondo and allen: this team is dead.
    Even beating ATL and NY is going to be hard. If it was up to me,we don't need more D i would trade noah for melo. Ok bulls fans, u don't want melo. But keeping plays Brewer, bogans and thomas hurts this team. Those guys should be traded before the deadline. It's not being pessimist, it's just being realistic : this team hasn't convinced me yet !

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Please go and leave your comments on Mr Happy's blog. Shut up about the whole Boah for Melo thing. You act as if it is actually an option. IT IS NOT. Not because I do not want it to be, but because MELO doesnt want to come here and Denver doesnt want Deng.

    I can wait for the trade deadline to come and go already... but then all we are going to hear for the rest of the season is how the Bulls wouldnt pull the trigger from idiots like you.

  • In reply to bcz1980:

    HOW MUCH TIME WILL I REPEAT IT ! MELO SAID THAT NY AND CHICAGO ARE THE ONLY TEAM THAT HE WOULD LIKE AN EXTENSION : NOTHING IS HAPPENING BECUZ OF U AND ORGANIZATION WHO OVERRATE NOAH !!

  • In reply to deewaves:

    It's not just the Bulls who feel that way, Bill Simmons (who hopefully nobody thinks is a Bulls homer) called the idea of trading Noah + Deng for Melo as "Denver getting 200 cents on the dollar" in his latest podcast.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    show us where he said that. He has never specifically mentioned teams

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Did you happen to catch Atlanta's gutless first round performance in last years playoffs, check it out before you shit in your pants in fear of them.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Haha. No kidding.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Who's concerned about the luxury tax?

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    The Bulls just signed Boozer & Noah to long term deals. Rose is next, obviously they are not letting him get away. They are just 2 mil under the cap today (which was impossible to go over in the summer), and that cap number is expected to shrink. Reinsdorf has already commited to go into the luxury tax, wake up.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    we wait that he goes into that damn luxury tax. But for the time being we aren't contender !

  • In reply to deewaves:

    What do you want them to do, its impossible right now to go into the tax!

    I respect your opinion about Melo making us better even if we had to give up Noah. Don't agree with it, but respect it.

    Your opinion that Reindorf is cheap, refuses to go into the tax, or is holding back, or has ever held the Bulls back? I can't respect that. That is just ignorant to me. The man has 6 basketball rings, & 1 baseball.

    It would have been bad basketball management to go into the tax anytime when you didn't have a championship level core. They have had one now for 2-3 years, and are in the process of supplemanting that core by exceeding the soft cap. Once again though, Reindorf has commited to go up into the tax. Add in Rose contract, not to mention any veteran minimum deals, and the Bulls are well into the tax.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    MJ did everything !

  • In reply to deewaves:

    yeah, he never missed a shot. And pay no attention to that impostor that wore the Wizards uni .

  • In reply to Reese1:

    I don't see how it's "plain as day" we don't have an offense...

    And PLEASE explain how Atlanta has more talent. I want to hear this one.

  • In reply to Dileg:

    nobody said that ATL have more talent but it's not obvious that bulls can beat ATL or NY !

  • In reply to deewaves:

    see below...

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Doug never said the Bulls had one of the best offenses in the league. Unless I blacked out while keeping up with this blog religiously for the past year.

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    In case you have been under a rock, ATL offensively has more talent than the Bulls. Defensively the Bulls win that battle but who would be easier to shut down offensively,The Bulls or ATL? U figure it out.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    OK,well I live in Atlanta and hide under a rock about 6 miles from Phillips Arena.

    Let's talk about this on the offensive end forget defense...My opinion but it seems right. Let's see if I figured it out.

    DRose best player by far on both teams

    DRose > Bibby
    Bogans < JJ
    Deng > Marvin Williams
    Boozer > Josh Smith
    Noah -------- Bench
    CJ > Teague
    Brewer < Crawford
    Korver > Evans
    Gibson > Zaza

  • In reply to Dileg:

    That didn't submit right....

    Noah < or = Horford
    Brewer < Crawford

  • In reply to Dileg:

    OK. I give up. This isn't taking greater than signs. To me, the Bulls starting lineup wins 3/5 offensive match ups, and the Bulls bench wins 3/4 against the Hawks.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    I don't know, I don't think there's a huge gap between the two. The Bulls have the best offensive player of either team, and Boozer is probably better than the Atlanta second option as well. The Hawks have a bit more offensive depth, but that might make them better in a pressure situation.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    I agree. The gap between the teams isn't huge but I think the Bulls are a clear winner.

    The Hawks did score 59 points this year.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    The thing about Atlanta is that Chicago struggles against quick athletic teams......AKA Atlanta.

  • In reply to Csharp:

    Chicago tends to struggle against teams that score a lot of points in transition because the Bulls defensive scheme is very strong once they getting set. That's not Atlanta. Atlanta are a slow down team, they play at a slower pace than the Bulls.

  • In reply to Csharp:

    Exactly which is why the Bulls need another perimeter scorer to make teams honest in guarding them. All of this double and triple teaming of Rose is ridiculous when you have other players that can't step up when needed.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Csharp you sound like myself, a ball player or ex ball player or you really know your basketball. Half of these other guys that comment on here are clueless when it comes to realistic basketball. I agree that Melo is a pipedream since he only wants N.Y. or that's at least what is being reported and Mayo and J.R.Smith would be a big help that would take a lot of pressure off of Rose but my question is can the Bulls get rid of the draft picks that they have with lets say Watson Bogans J.J. and maybe Brewer although I would hope they would try to keep him and do Gar/Pax have the creativity to pull off such a move cause this Bulls team is too close to wait on next year, anything bad could happen next year, why not go for it this year, at least get to the finals. That's my concern for the Bulls future.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Haha. You're probably right. No one on the basketball blog probably ever played basketball or knows anything about basketball. These guys that blog all day about basketball probably haven't watched basketball or ever heard of the basketball player Carmelo Anthony. All these basketball fans are clueless about basketball.

    You're concerns are understood by everyone. We need another player who can create his own shot and shoot from the outside. We all want better players. I'd love to line the Eastern Conference Allstar team out there tonight in a Bulls uniform.

  • In reply to Dileg:

    I know I'm right half of these guys probably haven't played organized basketball. Players and Blogger/ media will always have different opinions.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_accomplishment

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    UH OH the knowledgeable guys have been offended... LOL...

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Get a dictionary and look up the difference between offended and contemptuous.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    This is hilarious to me, I've played league/organized basketball for almost 20 years now, and it really hasn't given me a smarter opinion than people that haven't. Reese, just because you pounded a basketball into the ground for a few years doesn't make the thrust of your arguments any more poignant, it just makes you come off as more of a toolbox. For the same reasons that being an NBA player doesn't make you qualified to be a general manager or coach, you are wrong here.

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    I'm a toolbox??? that is the corniest crap I have ever heard besides someone calling another person a Tool. You just proved to me what you are but I wont put it out there like that... TOOLBOX...LOL LOL...

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    Do you think we can start talking about Dwight Howard to the Bulls after the trade deadline?

  • In reply to Dileg:

    Nice one.

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    lmao

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    Reinsdorf has "gone all in" this year with the Sox. The payroll is like $130 million. Unless they improve their attendance considerably, they are going to lose a lot of money. But like JR said, they've made a great deal over the years and he believes this team has a chance to win big and draw.
    The Bulls already draw and are extremely profitable. There is no reason to believe that if they felt they could build a dynasty by adding a piece, even if it put them over whatever cap there is, that they wouldn't do it. History says they would.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    As a sidenote, even with all of the ridiculous Carmelo stuff going on, I'm glad to see this game thread hit 100 replies hours before the game even starts! Good to see people getting excited, and despite all the disagreements, it proves that people are loving the product they see out on the court. Bryce Drew, Brent Barry, Ron Mercer, Dalibor Bagaric, Dragan Tarlac, ect. ect. couldn't do that for this team. So im glad to see everyone posting here even if I do disagree with you and think you have no sense.

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    I can just imagine what this blog would be like back in those days. Lots of posts saying "Krause totally needs to trade for an upgrade at PG, SG, SF, PF and C or we wont make the playoffs!"

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    I can't imagine.
    Even when Krause was fielding a dynasty, mostly cause of Jordon, he was taking gaff.
    I always liked the story that when the Bulls were talking to Rodman, they brought him to Berto and had Jordon come by. When they met it was extremely brief; Rodman told Jordon that he was the greatest player in history and that the Bulls were his team. Jordon said "sign him".

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Some guys would be criticizing Krause for not trading Tralac(potential superstar) to get Kobe or Garnett and blame the fans for settling for potential rather than winning a championship.

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    Very exciting time! Even when they drop 1 game out of 10

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    2 :(

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Dont need to sir.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    why, are you a published writer too?

  • In reply to Reese1:

    C'mon guys, we'are all bulls fan but let's be realistic Reesel is right : It's not even obvious that bulls can beat ATL or NY(Most of all if they get Melo).

  • In reply to deewaves:

    They don't know how to be realistic deewaves, they don't know any better. I love how they try to come back at me tho cause just like other Chicago sports fans their mentality is to always wait til next years... PLEASE, that is so tired.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    So its unrealistic to want to build over time but realistic to sell all your assets to build a fantasy team?

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Wow!! way to win an argument. Just calm down and analyze what others are saying... and BTW, this trading stuff has to be done by a GM who is analytical and not by a player kind of like the GM of the team we are playing tonight(Rich Cho).

  • In reply to Reese1:

    what college did you play at Reese?

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Too much Info sir, can't provide that but I did attend Div. 1 University.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Too bad they didn't teach you how to write there.

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    lol oh noooo, that's cold.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    +10. I agree. I think bulls management is too lazy to get a great SG. They dont try enough. As u said, we don't know what can happen next year. Gibson, Watson, bogans, brewer even deng are disappointing, they just cant bury shot when it's wanted. Gibson's value is getting down because of his stats (43 FG% for a PF is too low, if it only take him to get JR smith or mayo then let's do it). Bulls has to hurry up !

  • In reply to deewaves:

    This has to be a joke. Can we trade deewaves and Reese1 posts for more Mr. Happy posts? I'm really starting to miss Mappy.

  • In reply to Dileg:

    nope Cause im sure Happy will agree with us 10 times out of 10.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    at least Happy can use proper grammar and spelling.

  • In reply to Dileg:

    Here we go again with the grammar and spelling. Its a blog sir, im no typing expert, I do not proof read most of the time so if my errors offend, I do apologize. I could correct my grammar and spelling if I wanted to but I didn't know I was being graded here. How petty can U be???

  • In reply to Reese1:

    You're 100% right. I'm actually terrible at both. BUT... if I were trading blog posts, I would trade to make an upgrade which means taking Mr. Happy.

  • In reply to Dileg:

    OK???

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Reesel,

    I don't miss the CLUELESS. It's nice to take a break.

  • In reply to Dileg:

    by Resse's logic that would be impossible unless he was an editor

  • In reply to Dileg:

    Leave a comment...

  • In reply to Dileg:

    who the hell do u think u are to criticize my grammar ?? I speak french since i was born. English is tongue that i'm learning. At least me I'm bilingual. Can u speak french like i write english ?? idiot !

  • In reply to Dileg:

    Apparently Rudy didnt get Bosh's memo.

  • In reply to Dileg:

    Ha! Rudy, that dirty foreign player. Doesn't he know there's no hustling allowed in the NBA.

  • In reply to Dileg:

    This same crap again. Watson chucks, Brewer can't finish an easy dunk and the Bulls don't get back.
    Now Boozer will come in and guard no one.
    Please for the love of God, get a 2 Guard.

  • In reply to Dileg:

    Damnit Brewer, another missed dunk on a break?

  • In reply to Dileg:

    Bulls second unit doing a really great job.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Hey guys, not trying to offend anyone, I just want the Bulls to be more aggressive in trying to win cause the way things are shaping up the Bulls just might end up messing up a very good career in Rose. The guy will eventually need more help just like MJ did back in the day and with these other all stars teaming up in the east on certain teams the Bulls will always have to take a back seat to these teams. I understand the luxury tax and the Bulls wont go over that unless it means winning a championship. The CBA is coming at the end of the season and everyone is hanging their hopes on that but IMO it still wont break up these teams with big spending habits cause they will keep their all stars over everyone else. So again Im not trying to offend anyone, I just feel like the Bulls could be in for a long drought before they contend for another championship again with how the NBA is shaping up and I feel like we as Bulls fans deserve more than whats been going on in the NBA over the last 13 years.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Bulls fans deserve more from management.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Management will increase this teams win total by at least 10 games in one offseason. What more do they owe? They also go rid of Hinrichs terrible contract. You can only do so much with the assets you have. I'm very happy with the job management has done.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    I think they have done really all they could up to this point, & they are trying. It takes 2 to tango though. No one's just trying to hook the Bulls up to a pipeline of talent until they win the championship.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    I understand Reese. We are all pasionate here & just disagree on how to go about everything. The thing is though, no one in management is asking us what, so I find it best to just enjoy this right now. We are all very luck to be able to follow Derrick Rose's career here in Chicago, with a major market team that has thus far provided him with good support. We are very lucky, and with the blink of an eye it will be over very soon, and we will be starring at another Dalibar Bagaric era for the next 20 years after. So we just have to enjoy it now.

    I believe the bulls are on their way to maximizing Derrick's career & bringing a champion back to the UC

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Ahh, sanity. I like it.

  • In reply to Dileg:

    That's unrealistic RobD! Trade them for Ian Thomsen, Sam Smith, Marc Stein, & John Hollinger, anything less would be SETTLING, or are you too cheap RobD? Idiot

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    hahaha. Now rinse and repeat

  • In reply to Dileg:

    Best thread EVER!

  • In reply to zentastic:

    Oh, BTW there's a game tonight. I predict a comfortable Bulls win.

    (Although, Deng might score less than 20, so I say trade him, Noah, Gibson, Brewer, Korver, Thomas, Watson, Asik, Bogans, JJ, and both 1st round picks for Melo and Howard...oh hell, trade Boozer too, might as well)

  • In reply to zentastic:

    Unfortunately, this nonsense may continue past Feb. 24. The problem for the Knicks is that they need a Center more than they need Melo. Then Amare could play PF. Plenty of smart basketball people don't believe that Carmelo will significantly improve the Knicks nearly as much as Howard would. And don't believe they'll be able to afford both.

  • In reply to Waldock:

    I theory the Knicks need a center. In practice their coach Pringles doesn't believe in playing players that can't shoot, so even if they got a center he'd probably rot on the bench while Amare played center.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    True, but if the Knicks could get Dwight Howard they'd lget rid of Pringles( I like that) if they have to

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    That is true D'Antoni hates true centers, they never had a place in Phoenix.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    How about a thread dedicated to a tag team debate-off?

    On one side would be Reese, Deewaves, and Happy. The other side would be three from MW, Chicagosportsguru, Shakes, Schaumburgfan, ChiRy, or KingofCrumbs?

  • In reply to zentastic:

    it really is! Let's hit 300 tonight Bulls fans!

  • In reply to deewaves:

    more ignorance I can't respect here.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    haha. you're funny.

    fantasy basketball doesn't count though

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    and yes, playoffs is about pressure ! could chicago survive when rose is locked ?

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Given Atlanta have tended to be horrible offensively in the playoffs, especially their leading scorer in Johnson, I don't think it's the Bulls who would be the ones falling apart under pressure in that series.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    The Bulls have yet to face Atlanta anyways...

  • In reply to deewaves:

    I don't think that anyone has called the Bulls great offensively. There's been a lot of debate over exactly how far from great they will be at full strength, and what players might be able to be brought in to help them out on that end, but I don't think you'll find too many people saying the Bulls are anything other than middle of the pack (or actually a bit below that without Noah).

  • In reply to deewaves:

    I don't recall ever saying otherwise. They're an average group offensively, they have potential to be much better once Noah is back, but they still won't be elite. They can probably only hope to break into good.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    +1000

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    +100 ! please says it again to chicagosportsguru and Chiry

  • In reply to deewaves:

    What? When did I ever say they were an elite offense? I'm with Doug. They can be better when Noah returns, I think around 10th. I think with a guy like Afflalo, in a couple years as Rose hit his prime & the Bulls play together more * Thibs grows as a strategist, then I think we are elite level.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    I've liked Mayo all along, the problem is all impressions have been that Memphis wants our whole bench and the kitchen sink for Mayo. Maybe that stance will ease as we get closer to the deadline. I'd move Taj for Mayo and Mayo alone(as opposed to the other possibilities at hand). But I wouldn't include any one else not named Keith Bogans or future draft pick X, Y, Z in the trade.

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    lool, i would include Bogans in any deal just to make stop Thibs playing him.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    i would trade Gibson for JR smith. JR smith is better than Mayo. With him we're sure that he is a good defender. Gibson is loosing his value this season. His is shooting 43 % FG. That is too low for a PF. he should be at least at 48%. With the return of noah, i would trade TG without regrets.

  • I think people overstate the possibilities of a truly hard cap with the coming CBA. But you have to consider the effects any even remote possibility of a hard cap is having on the Bulls trade discussions. Mayo will command a 7-10 million dollar salary, which is problematic if, heaven forbid, a hard cap does come to fruition. Then again, Taj will likely require a similar salary bump if we were going to keep him so you're basically trading on an equal level as far as future finances go.

    But thats the reason I just don't see a hard cap coming down. I mean imagine the Bulls traded for Carmelo(just for scenario purposes). We'd be set up to be well over the cap for years, especially considering Rose will get his payday soon. Do you really think the NBA will structure itself so that the Bulls can't resign Derrick Rose? I just don't see it, unless they did what Doug talked about and increased the cap to say 70 million. Either way I see the CBA's main results lowering salary requirements like the incremental increases and max contract numbers. I think the MLE and ability to resign players into the luxury will remain.

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    There's very little likelihood of a truly hard cap, I can't really see the players caving to that extent. What is likely is that some of the exceptions to the current cap will be removed. If that's the case it actually makes more sense for the Bulls to do a deal now while it's possible because next year adding players may well be a lot more difficult.

    The problem is other teams probably don't really want to deal. The new CBA is also making teams reluctant to move players for salary reasons because they think affordability will be better next year.

  • I'm OK with Gibson for Mayo in that I think you can probably get away with a Boozer/Noah/Asik rotation in the future and just add a Kurt Thomas like vet as the forth big who only plays when needed. It's easier to add a player who is a end of rotation guy who can step up a bit if needed than a starting SG.

    I don't think Mayo is particularly good: I'd call him a poor man's Ben Gordon except Ben Gordon has become the poor man's Ben Gordon since moving to Detroit. But if he comes at a reasonable price and you think you can resign him at a reasonable price then who really cares whether people once thought he might be a superstar. I don't think he comes at a reasonable price though ...

  • I'm not too hopeful about Mayo's ball handling, it seems the effort to get him to be a combo guard who can play a bit of point was about as successful as the Bulls attempts to do the same with Gordon. I believe they tried him at point in summer league and he was awful at it so they shelved the idea. That said I am somewhat hopeful once Noah returns that the need for another ball handler at guard will become less of an issue.

    I'm really fine with Mayo for the right price so long as people realise we're getting a guy who can be solid and fill a need, not another potential star. I just don't see Memphis coming down enough to reach that price. He's got another year of contract to run, they can always hold on to him, other teams perception of him is unlikely to get much lower than when he's serving a drug ban.

  • don't believe u ! give me the link !

  • "For the Bulls, who had hoped to draw Melo to Chicago this summer, this news (if true) will likely end their pursuit of the Nuggets small forward."

    "IF true" No ones knows if its true !

  • In reply to deewaves:

    No one "knows" because Melo can't come out & say he is going to New York, but everyone knows it.

  • lol that won't stop deewaves from disagreeing with you. He answers to a higher power: Mr. Happy.

  • Just another bozo on the bus, I guess...

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    And I guess that makes you Cookie the clown.. idiot...LOL...

  • hahaha.

  • Someone that knows more than you evidently. LOL...

  • I guess the Bulls defense is running out of gas and is kind of getting exposed without Noah. Rose seems unsure of himself and very tentative with his ball handling in the last two games. Not sure if it is the trapping defense or something else is going on..

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Bulls are expending too much energy on defense to cover up offensive flaws. Noah probably would have made a difference but how much?

  • In reply to Reese1:

    they're expending too much defensive energy to cover up for defensive

    with Noah they win both of these games, and maybe without him if someone else besides Rose steps up

    and can someone on the coaching staff please tell Brewer to shoot his jumper at the top of his jump & not on the way down?

  • I'm not sure what happened, but i think the bulls scout might have messed up on LA. They kept leaving him wide open while helping with miller's penetration. Guys, miller isn't THAT good. STAY ON LA!

  • No one said they were a scoring power overall,they had too much for the Bulls tonight with the terrible defense and Lamarcus going off for 42 points. Who was guarding him? I will let that one be.

  • MELO:

    vs. Houston - 50 points, 11 rebounds, 21 points in the 4th Qrt. and 16/18 from the line.

    How did Luol Deng and the Bulls do?

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Here's a tip: if you watch games labeled as "Chicago" rather than "Denver" you'll know how the Bulls do and wont have to ask here.

    No need to thank me, I'm glad to help.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Boozer's defense and then only scoring 4 in the 2nd half is troublesome.
    The sloppy play and the lack of focus on the road says a lot about this team.
    We've all heard a lot about chemistry, team defense yada yada blah blah, but other than DRose this team is very average.

  • In reply to Waldock:

    That's why Rose gets my vote as MVP.

  • In reply to Waldock:

    The defense has had long stretches of lackadaisical play in these last two games, both in transition and on the front line. They've often been careless with the rock on offense. Those are signs of a tired team either physically, mentally or both. I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but they're missing Noah now more than ever. They need a shot of energy

  • In reply to Waldock:

    Glitchy web browser last night, sorry for the multiple posts.

    But if I posted once for each point they scored that would be zero times as Tyrus Thomas is out with knee surgery and Viktor Khryapa is out of the NBA entirely. haha.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    And Denver lost too like the Bulls and you can see the starting SG had 3 shots....

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Wow, with those numbers, Nuggets must have won, right? No? Oh well, you could always go here:
    http://www.theknicksblog.com/2011/02/07/22904/
    I'm sure they would be interested in what you had to say there. Last I checked, though, this was a Bulls blog.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Rudy Fernandez shooting 9 freethrows is an abomination.

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    I didn't think the officiating was bad. It's that when guys screen off whoever Boozer is guarding you have to foul to catch them.

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    I felt that Rose biting for the pump fake by Rudy giving him 3 free throws killed the Bulls momentum.
    The other thing was why not double Aldridge atleast when Boozer was the main defender(to even call that seems funny)

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    While watching this game I was tormented by the ghosts of Tyrus Thomas and Viktor Khryapa. I'll have nightmares tonight.

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    While watching this game I was tormented by the ghosts of Tyrus Thomas and Viktor Khryapa. I'll have nightmares tonight.

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    While watching this game I was tormented by the ghosts of Tyrus Thomas and Viktor Khryapa. I'll have nightmares tonight.

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    While watching this game I was tormented by the ghosts of Tyrus Thomas and Viktor Khryapa. I'll have nightmares tonight.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    how did Denver do? They lost buddy

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    While watching this game I was tormented by the ghosts of Tyrus Thomas and Viktor Khryapa. I'll have nightmares tonight.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Should have posted it once for each point her scored. :)

  • Agreed. Rose and the Bulls in general played well offensively, but Aldridge and Miller destroyed them. Sure Aldridge was hitting shots but the Bulls didn't get out and contest at times. If it's some scrub stretch big then sure I can understand the defense being elsewhere but it's their best player.

    Can't wait for Noah to get back, Big Sexy has provided admirable fill in but you have to wonder if he's wearing down.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Career high for Aldridge. Season high for Miller.
    How many points did Monta score?
    The problem here may be greater than Joakim.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Arg, I can't stand people complaining about the offense this game.

    The Bulls scored 119 points/100 possessions, which if they did every game would be far and away the best offense in the league, not just this year but ever. They lost because they leaked points at the rate of 128 per 100 possessions.

    I understand that you can always look at a game and see things the team could have done better, but when you consider the offense played at a level that would objectively be considered a good night for any team you care to name it seems silly to focus on it. Instead the fact the Bulls gave up a whopping 29 more points per 100 on the defensive end than their average should be the talking point.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Agreed,
    We've seen GSW and Portland get easy points by beating the Bulls back down the floor. The switches are late or passive. It seems like the Bigs aren't helping the Guards without fouling.
    These are basics that the Bulls were executing until recently.
    Plus the general sloppiness of the play is frustrating because it's not what we are accustom to seeing with this team.
    Intensity and hustle plays are what we became used to.
    Now maybe it's the Road or the Opponents are better.
    It could be that there's too much time between games.
    But this is not what we've all gotten used to seeing and expecting.

  • In reply to Waldock:

    Yeah it's disappointing because that had been what the Bulls had done game in and game out, you can't win them all but at least the effort and discipline was there.

    I don't really mind if the team loses because the other team just hit shots. Obviously I don't want it to happen but I accept it as inevitable over the course of the season that you'll have games like that. But when you either give them transition chances or easy looks that gets annoying.

  • the last 2 games. Noah can't return soon enough

  • & you can't give them free throws, they are just too good a free throw shooting team b/t Batum, Miller, & Aldridge esp.

  • actually, I remember from that article someone else posted a week or so ago, that their offense isn't really that slow paced, that its more their defense that drags that # down. Still, I agree with you, you can't give them so many easy buckets

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