Bulls stand pat at deadline

In a move which seems to have upset a lot of Bulls fans, the Bulls have not made any moves at the trade deadline outside of the unloading of James Johnson for a 1st rounder yesterday.

The Bulls have the chance to use that extra salary savings to bring in a player that is bought out, but I'm skeptical of there being any buy out players worth bringing in.   It's more likely that the extra savings will just go to bring in another player for the Chicago White Sox as Jerry Reinsdorf loves to spend on the White Sox.

So was the writing on the wall that the Bulls wouldn't do anything?   Was this another example of them playing the small market team role while raking in the money or was this simply a matter of the right deal not being on the table?

There were hints of the
Bulls being concerned about making a move prior to the new CBA.   The
problem with this is that the new CBA is more likely to make it
difficult to bring in talent.   That's why a big market team with tons
of money should have been more willing to spend it now when they option
to spend it later might not exist.

However, it seems like the Rockets simply wanted too much for Courtney Lee.  How do two firsts not equal Lee given the Rockets present position?   However, after the
Rockets unloaded a couple of other guards, they had a greater need to
keep Lee and didn't need the draft picks.

I'm quite content that we didn't give up a pick to bring in Anthony Parker which would have just let to a guard glut without significantly improving the team.   The chemistry risk of trying to squeeze four players into the SG slot with another 10 minutes as backup SF seemed like too much to me.

The only potentially depressing news was the O.J. Mayo trade that almost was.   Reportedly, the Grizzlies were willing to give up Mayo for a pick and Josh McRoberts.  You'd have thought that 3 firsts (Bulls, Miami, and Charlotte) from Chicago + Bogans would have been enough to lure him here or perhaps Taj + a couple 1sts.   O.J. Mayo will stay a Grizzly for now, but he has many of the characteristics we'd like out of a SG, decent shooting, defense, and an ability to put the ball on the floor.

Granted, Mayo's reputation vastly exceeds his accomplishments due to junk scoring rookie season where he threw in a lot of points on a lousy team combined with his pre-NBA hype as a future superstar.   He had a number of drug problems (I've been told you have to be busted by the league five times prior to it going public) and has groused about a limited role in Memphis which probably was bigger than the role we'd ask of him here.

I would have liked to go for Mayo despite all that, and maybe the Bulls did go for him, but the Grizzlies simply preferred the higher draft pick and Josh McRoberts to our poor selections and Gibson or Asik.

So were the Bulls cheap?   Gun shy?   Just no good deals available?  

That's not entirely clear, and a combination of the three certainly wouldn't surprise me.  It's worth noting that the Bulls, as an organization, have done a great job of dumping bad contracts, creating cap room, making minor moves to trade unused assets for future assets at the deadline.   Year after year, the Bulls make little trades to help them out.   Typically to save money and bring in future assets.

However, the Bulls have failed to spend their assets to bring in a piece that really helps them on the court.   It's not salary trimming time anymore.   It's not time to collect more draft picks.   It's time to use those things to push this team over the edge that said here simply may not have been the right move out there, and I can accept that.  

The Bulls are on the verge of something awfully special, and this was hardly their last opportunity to do add a piece before a championship window closes.   There will be plenty of players available this summer.   Lots of SGs out there, and the Bulls will have flexibility to add someone at the draft since they'll be below the cap and have picks to use, but it would have been nice to be able to pull off that move now and get something for this playoff run.

Not getting anyone today feels a little disappointing, but in the face of that disappointment, it's worth remembering what a good team the Bulls have right now and that it still has some flexibility in the summer.  Also, just be happy we're not Celtics fans.  They may have just traded away their chance at a title to save money.

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  • speaking of the celtics, was this a cost saving move? Are they this confident in the O'neal twins and big baby? Big baby has delivered, but neither of the O'neals have played at a high level. Is this a move for the future by bringing the successor to Paul Pierce?

  • In reply to pinkizdead:

    Ya I really do not get it at all especially the Erdin thing they got nothing back

  • In reply to pinkizdead:

    I am worried about Miami Bibby and Murphy are probably sent over

  • In reply to UtahBullsFan:

    They can have Bibby. He'll make that team worse - and I don't think Murphy helps a whole lot either.

  • In reply to walrus:

    I think against us it does because him being a stretch four ... bet then again I dunno because Taj will be on him

  • In reply to walrus:

    murphy is a rebounding machine. He'll help in that department. he's more of a 4 than a 5. If you play him and bosh, isn't bosh the center? Also, he ought to help space the floor. wade is a bad 3pt shooter.

  • In reply to pinkizdead:

    Why would we not be in the discussion to get Murphy, we have the most money(cap space) to offer him.

    WE have never had a stretch 4 and could use one, since Taj cannot make a jumper anymore, and apparently he can't dunk either.

  • In reply to UtahBullsFan:

    Confirmed deal: celtics agree to send marquis Daniels to the Kings for a 2nd round picks and cash...

    Wtf are they doing??

    Clearing space for Dwight??

  • In reply to UtahBullsFan:

    Well, it was fun while it lasted. I think that last article broke the record for comments, haha! Time to look forward to the Playoffs and get Arron Afflalo in FA!

  • In reply to joeacook3:

    It's probably close, but I'd bet there were some in the LeBron mania this summer that might have topped it.

  • In reply to joeacook3:

    Best piece I've read from Doug Thonus this year. Clear read on Bulls situation and Management.

  • In reply to joeacook3:

    If the bulls are just looking for some extra fire power Kapono is probably going to get bought out

  • In reply to joeacook3:

    I like that the Bulls didn't panic and make a trade if the price wasn't right. Hopefully those picks get used to move up and get a SG in the draft now, I don't think we need two rookies next year. Moving them in a deal for a player after the season is over seems kind of hard though.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    always rookie !! deng, noah, gibon arent enough young for you ?? bulls need veterans to help them not always counting on young players. It will take 2 years for your SG rookie to reach the level which will make us champions !!

  • In reply to deewaves:

    In an ideal world you wouldn't be drafting a rookie, you'd get a vet. But overpaying for a vet doesn't help, you need to balance win now and win later. Rose is only 22, the Bulls are set up to contend for an extended period.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Lets be real with ourselves, Rose's game is not mature enough to win right now. That is not a knock on Rose, as you said he is only 22.

    In a couple of years when his game matures, he could be a stronger Isaiah Thomas, which is good enough to win if we build the right team around him.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    I think in the playoffs anything can happen if you're good enough to at least compete. I don't see why the Bulls can't win this year. It's not likely, but there are so many good teams without a stand out this year is any team really thinking they're likely champions at this point?

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Is it possible Boston could have been clearing room to add an expiring?

  • In reply to walrus:

    I don't know why people keep thinking this was a bad deal for Boston.

    Looks like a great deal for Boston in my opinion.

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    Green gives them some versatile depth, and I know they were worried about losing Daniels...but I don't know. I'd rather have a solid defensive big in the middle.

  • In reply to walrus:

    I personally always thought Perkins was a little over-rated. Green is a stretch 4 who can play small ball when Boston plays Miami. Krstic probably provides what Perkins did(maybe not so much toughness) but that is given by Shaq. I like the deal for the Celtics as Perkins looked more like a duplicate of Shaq and he probably wanted insane amount of money.

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    I think that depends entirely on how good you think Green is.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    But what about Erden and Daniels just going for picks??

  • In reply to UtahBullsFan:

    That's a minor move that I don't think really changes anything for them. Probably a similar situation to JJ, they didn't think they were going to play going forward so may as well get something for them.

  • In reply to UtahBullsFan:

    that had to be about money and roster slots.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    The celtics are in win now mode(this year and next) If both ONeals are healthy this move is good for them now, if they are not which is usually the case, it probably costs them their last shot.

    Green is a nice long term asset going forward, but are there enough minutes for him behind both Pierce and Garnett and Big Baby.

  • In reply to joeacook3:

    Who will say again that GarPax aren't the worst GM of basket-ball ?
    who will say again bulls don't overated and overvalue their players !!
    I really hope theses things will make them win the championship :

    -their "great chemistry",
    -their "great savior"(noah who cant be dealt for Melo),
    -the best center in the nba(asik)
    -the most consistent SF who shoot 3pt and defends better than Melo.
    -the improving bogans AKA a shooting guard who can't shoot(bogans)

    FUCK GARPAX !!!! they have just wasted one season again !!

  • In reply to deewaves:

    You already posted this

  • In reply to UtahBullsFan:

    I think your post cut off Utah ...

    "You already posted this garbage"

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    u've already read it ?! it'S simple don't reply!

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Or ... here's a thought ... you could just stop posting this nonsense.

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    there's no law which force u to reply. u don't find my post interessting, just follow ur way. it's that simple.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    there should be

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    Some of you guys just don't get it. It's time for the Bulls to stop walking the straight line so to speak, teams in the east have improved themselves while the Bulls... yes they have a good team but as it stands would match up with the Knicks in the first round and although Billips is older, he is still very effective and can control the two massive weapons that he has in Melo and Amare. The Bulls would be favored but it would be a very dangerous and formidable opponent and that series could go either way. I just don't feel like a wait til next year approach is the right attitude to have. Let's hope the Bulls standing pat is the right thing for them to do.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    +1.This team will never win a championship until they get rid of GarPax ! I'm serious, i've seen so much bullshits from Paxson. They never do something when it is needed !

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Yeah a lot of the homer fans will always swear in favor of everything that GarPax does is the right thing to do. I said a long time ago that Jordan won the Bulls championships and the Bulls management and owner have to prove that they can win a championship without MJ. I just feel like it will be quite some time before the Bulls do win another... hope I am wrong tho.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    MJ fell in their laps but Polynice for Pippen won the Bulls the 6 championships. One of the greatest trade robberies ever.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    agreed, i said the same thing. i told them when u've got MJ, u can sleep, he will win everything for u.
    I also said that Reinsdorf is cheap , people replied that "how can he be cheap whereas he gave MJ a big contract" lol. I told them even picsou or the cheapest owner in the world would have given MJ everything becuz he was so god playing basket-ball.
    Garpax and reinsdorf have a lot to prove; Drafting Rose and signing boozer were luck !

  • In reply to Reese1:

    It's not a next year approach, it's a this year and the next 5 years approach. You have to balance win now and win later, this isn't a simple situation like say the Celtics/Heat/Spurs have where their core is old so who cares about the future. The Bulls have a very young core that can contend for most of this decade, they're not going to make themselves worse in the future for small improvements this year.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Boozer will be dead in 2 years...we have to maximize his talents NOW.

  • In reply to calle3:

    Boozer's only just turned 29 and relies on strength and skill more than athleticism, those sorts of players can have long careers. There's no reason to think he wont still be a good player through his entire deal.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Now that I see him play on a day to day basis, Boozer really worries me, I still like him better than RuPaul, but we have an awful lot invested in him.

    If Taj could score at all, which apparently he cannot, Taj and Asik are much better investments than Boozer. Even as is they may turn out to be. Although, I think Taj is eventually moved for another piece.

    Asik is not goint anywhere unless we cannot afford his second contract under the new CBA

  • In reply to BigWay:

    however, I think that I almost agree with both of you. We will probably know after the playoffs.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    The team was going to be heavily invested in whoever they signed and other than LeBron everyone who was a free agent had some kind of draw back. I'm not totally thrilled with Boozer but what are you going to do?

    Taj is scoring under 6 points a game on 40% shooting since moving to the bench. Love his effort but he's a one way player just as much as Boozer is. I'm happy to send him away in the right deal, if Asik is the third big next year I think he can handle it. We'd obviously need a vet the way we've had Kurt Thomas to cover for injuries, but for teams that are proven to be good those guys aren't that hard to find.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    for u it's a good approach to have rose boozer deng noah all signed, no flexebility for trade for signatures and to be beat by the heat the next 5 years ??

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Most good teams don't have a lot of flexibility, flexibility primarily comes from being bad and getting lottery picks or making a lot of cap space.

    I certainly don't think getting rid of Deng/Boozer/Noah for cap space and trying to build a new team around Rose is more likely to deliver a championship than sticking with the current group, so yeah, I think having them all signed is a good move.

    The Heat aren't going to be good for the next 5 years IMO, Wade has a couple of good years left before his body falls apart on him. Which makes keeping an eye on the future even more important, because most of the current top teams are going to get worse, not better.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    You're crazy the Heat will dominate and win at least 2-3 titles in the next 5 years, once Boston is done.

  • In reply to calle3:

    I think they'll win some titles but I think their window of having 3 stars is shorter than most people are assuming. Wade is 29, has a bad injury history, and no jump shot to fall back on once he loses athleticism. I don't think he'll be a top player in 5 years.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Sooo you wanna wait 5 years to put a team around Rose that can contend?? (we're not contending with bogans as our starting 2)

  • In reply to calle3:

    No, I said I want to contend now but not at the cost of contending in the future when the competition projects to be weaker.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    By the time that todays competition is weaker new, stronger competition will arise, but I agree that the Bulls have a year or 2 more to make the right moves.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Agree with Shakes here....Both Amare and Wade are injuries waiting to happen. Melo and LeBron are not injury prone but their partners are not

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Boozer and Noah are also injury prone and Boozer's 29.

  • In reply to calle3:

    Boozer's injuries aren't career threatening like Amare's knees, and he doesn't rely on athleticism like Wade. It's not the same situation.

  • In reply to calle3:

    and deng. moreover it simply stupid to count on opponents injuries to win a championship. It's coward

  • In reply to deewaves:

    That's not what anyone is saying. It is the reality of why Amare only got a deal from NY. It is the reality of Wade's game.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    absent the injury concern, I would have prefered Amare to any power forward, but I sure didn't want to invest $100 million in him anymore than I wanted to give Joe Johnson $120 million.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    You think other teams weren't planning on MJ getting old when working out where their championship window was while the Bulls were winning? It's the reality of sports, athletes don't play at a high level forever, if you've got a young team you have time on your side if the competition is older.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Hey everyone! I'm new here, but I've been a longtime reader of Doug's blog (as well as many of you that comment).

    Thought I'd share this tidbit from K.C. Johnson. He reported tonight that the Bulls made a very strong bid to land O.J. Mayo. Gar-Pax offered the Grizzlies Ronnie Brewer, two firsts, and a second-round pick for Mayo. I guess the Grizzlies liked the Pacers offer of McRoberts and a first rounder better. Unfortunately for them, Larry Bird and co. had an amateur hour moment and botched it up.

    Personally, I think the Grizzlies should have taken the Bulls offer. Although, they might not have wanted to add him with Shane Battier fulfilling a similar role off the bench.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/ct-spt-0225-trade-bulls-heat-chicago-20110224,0,1581666.story

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Doug, five drug infractions for Mayo?? Are we talking pot time after time, or coke..? Honestly if he's been busted for coke at all I'm probably not itnerested if he hasn't learned after say two busts let alone five?!

    I thought his busts were just for illegal muscle supplements like Rashard Griffith. If those five drug busts are for coke, pot etc. that's juts crazy - especially like I say in any of them go beyond pot to coke etc. If he's really had five recreational drug busts or even four maybe he's not the guy for us/the Bulls. I just wish we could have more specifics/info. Any news outlett covered this/gives the details to google it???

    Other comment: K.C. "oh the Bulls tried so hard!!" For the last time Houston and Memphis wanted our bigs. We said no. Case closed.

  • In reply to calle3:

    i'm happy. i don't think mayo or lee would've made much of a impact for the rest of the season or playoffs. i like where the bulls are for the rest of this season, but the opportunity to upgrade the team will still be there in the summer. a deal involving boozer and lopez anyone?

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    He needs to not be a top player in about 2 years, which is only happening if he has a serious injury.

    Can we really root for that?

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    That would work if you end up with Dwight Howard and Deron Willliams in 2012.

    Too bad that Howard is destined to be a Laker, and we will not be able to dump Boozer or Deng on anybody anytime soon.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    I agree. This is panic. They can make a trade/sign a much better SG in the summer. The one thing which most people miss is teams who have had a dynasty/multiple championships have all drafted a superstar except for the Lakers with Shaq..
    Lakers-Magic, Celtics-Bird, Pistons-Isiah, Bulls- MJ,Spurs-Duncan, Rockets-Akeem,Lakers-Kobe...
    None of the other teams including the big 3 in Boston have won more than 1 championship. It takes time.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Yep, Mayo, Aflalo and others will be no less available this summer, or after the new CBA is signed.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    I thought that it was for supplements also, but if it was pot, I don't want him either, there is a long history of NBA pot heads who never pan out, and not much of a list of those who do.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    not much who do? are you kidding? 80% of the league is high right now!

    coke is a different beast though

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    yea, pot is high on the list of PEDs.

    Like I said, you think Michael, Scottie, Kobe, Magic, Kareem, Bird, Hakeem or pretty much anybody who lead their teams to the championship over the last 30 years played high, then I think that you are on crack, or most likely never competed in anything athletically.

    Winners don't smoke pot, losers do whatever the fuck they want, which is why they are losers.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Good thing that you, Mappy and dee'lusional do.

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    DWaves must be Mappy's retarded alter ego. They can't actually be 2 seperate people. Notice how you never see them in the same place at the same time.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Just returned from the United Center where I was Lovin' It Live tonight.
    Where now are all the fools (deewaves) who wanted to trade Asik for a SG?
    Asik was HUGE in this game, his defense and rebounding changed the game in the 3rd and 4th quarters. Asik was +17.

    Not saying we don

  • In reply to deewaves:

    I don

  • In reply to pinkizdead:

    The "2nd City" title seems to fit after watching the Bulls' brass stand pat.

  • In reply to pinkizdead:

    I'm okay with standing pat. You can't just make a deal for the sake of making one. If there wasn't one that obviously made the Bulls better then there's no point in making one. You don't make trades just to make it look like you're doing something.

  • In reply to walrus:

    While I would have like Mayo for the right price or Aflalo for the right price or even lee for the right price, they were all apparently over priced.

    The Bulls made the right move, not panicking and overpaying, waiting for the offseason and the new CBA may not be satisfying this year, but it will serve the Bulls well in the long run, which is were we are at competition wise. We don't need to win this year and probably can't no matter what we do. But if we make the right move or 2 in the next year or so we will set ourselves up to be a top 2-4 team in the league for a long time to come.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Absolutely Correct.
    Yes, Bulls need to add a good SG. But not at the expense of their frontline (Asik was HUGE in tonight's win over Miami). Bulls will have more options available on draft night or in the off season.

    Bulls next task is to see if they can turn their two late 1st round picks into something greater (an asset) on draft night. Bulls are an asset depleted team after chasing LeBron last off season, so they have to add that SG without giving up too much. It's a tricky task to navigate.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    clearly it was a sellers market, not a good time to buy

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