Bulls leading candidate to land Hamilton and other trade rumors

Quick side note, those looking for the normal Sunday edition of the Bulls Beat, I'm putting it off until Tuesday when K.C. Johnson of the Chicago Tribune will be a guest on the show.   We're not going to record until the late evening, so it will probably not be out until 11pm or so Tuesday night.

Per Chris Mannix:

Chicago is still interested in Denver guard J.R. Smith, who won't be
dealt until after the Anthony situation is resolved. The Bulls have
invested a lot of scouting hours in the Rockets' Courtney Lee, too,
though a source said Houston is reluctant to part with him. Another
shooting guard, Cleveland's Anthony Parker, is also on their radar.
Rival executives believe Chicago is a leading candidate to land Richard
Hamilton as well, should Hamilton be bought out by the Pistons.

I like Hamilton an awful lot if he comes after a buyout.   There's no way I'm trading for him on that contract, and the amount of salary we'd have to send would make a deal prohibitive anyway.

However, once he's bought out.  He's a legit quality SG that would help the team tremendously and fit in really well with us.   The only question is whether or not there's a buyout.

As for the rest of the Mannix thoughts, nothing real new.   The Bulls don't have great assets to send for JR Smith even if he becomes available, Courtney Lee likely costs too much, and Anthony Parker's not really playing any better than Keith Bogans.

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  • It will be fun to watch Hamilton on this team. Hamilton and Korver running around screens like a mad dog is after them....I am sure it would drive anybody guarding them nuts...and Rose/Watson can just stand and watch/wait to pass

  • I'd take Hamilton in a heartbeat if he's bought out

  • They're not planning on playing him, and it's obvious they can't find anyone to take him in a trade, so if he agrees to give up enough money I can see why they would.

    I guess it's on Hamilton, does he care enough about playing to give up money to do so?

    I've been anti Rip since he always was pretty over rated and he's pretty over the hill now, but on the cheap as a free agent signing then I'm on board. It's a lot easier to like him when you don't have to match 11 million in salary.

  • If you're Hamilton and offers are equal, do you choose Bulls or Celtics?

  • In reply to Waldock:

    Surely the attraction of the Bulls is that they can potentially offer more playing time.

  • In reply to Waldock:

    I've always liked Hamilton ...
    But he's not the same guy from a couple years ago.
    Always thought he was a little suspect on defense, but he always seems to play hard.
    He's had some injuries and such lately, but I'd be happy to give him a shot.

  • In reply to Waldock:

    Is a buy out effected by the trade deadline?

  • In reply to Waldock:

    Given the way the season has gone so far, I'd probably sign with the Bulls. Far more minutes available and a similar chance to win a championship, plus your role in a championship would be much larger.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    I believe a role in a championship is big. If he wins a championship with Boston, he probably won't get that much credit. Excellent point.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    A buy out at this point seems like a long shot, the Pistons have little to gain unless they save a chunk of change and Rip wont want to concede that much money until he has a better concept of his value under the new CBA. Plus the Pistons may feel they have more opportunity to make a creative trade during the off season.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    I must admit I'm a bit underwhelmed with the idea of Hamilton. He's not that great from beyond the arc and doesn't create off the dribble, which are two skills the Bulls will need eventually in a SG.

    Having said that, if he comes relatively cheaply and wouldn't prohibit any future moves for a long-term solution, then he could provide some good just inside the 3-point line shooting and a boost in the playoffs.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Detroit has always had it's eye on Chris Kaman, so it wouldn't be surprising to see DET and LAC doing something at the deadline trading Hamilton or Prince for Kaman or something along those lines. But I hope Rip does get bought out and signed by the Bulls.

  • In reply to joeacook3:

    Can't really see them adding Kaman now Greg Monroe is starting to be a good young player for them.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    TIP"

    Don't believe everything you read, especially if it's coming from a NY reporter.

    Or K.C. Johnson for that matter.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    What about you?

  • In reply to Waldock:

    I think this one is obvious ... I should have seen it before ...

    McHappy is a NY reporter.
    It's all starting to make more sense now.

  • I think they buy him out. Hamilton can probably make up a minimum of 5 million of the money from Detroit.

    If he gives up 5 million then why would Detroit not let him go?

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Come to think of it, management and coaching staff is deliberately making him angry at them so Hamilton will accept a buyout.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    2 words : great news !

  • In reply to deewaves:

    One word: plastics.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    I'm not betting on any plan that begins with "If he gives up 5 million..."

  • K.C. has been on the show twice before, and I thought it was great both times.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Hey Doug is that guy gonna be back this year who did all of the draft prospects and things from last year?

  • In reply to joeacook3:

    I've asked Kevin to do it again, he said that he would, but he confessed that he was also extraordinarily busy. So while, he said yes, I know he's kind of over extending himself and am just trying to keep my fingers crossed.

  • In reply to joeacook3:

    Would Rip start or come off the bench? If the latter, what happens to Ronnie Brewer's minutes? Is this (finally) the end of Keith Bogans? And though I like this, the truth is, if we wanted a shooter coming off screens, we'd used the one we have already. We'd like spot-up shooter who occasionally creates his own and can handle the ball decently. And killer smart defender. If he's not all of those, I don't see him taking many minutes from the platoon that Thibodeau has already... is he a better defender than Kyle? Still?

  • In reply to joeacook3:

    Here's my completely hypothetical question.

    Let's assume LA wins another championship this year. (I don't think it's gonna happen, but you never know)
    And LA decides that it's time to break up the team and start the rebuilding process.
    And let's assume that Kobe was a free agent and willing to sign a minimum contract for a shot at a seventh ring ...

    Would you want him on the Bulls?

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    Um...were you expecting anyone other than Katelyn Faber to say no? Because I don't think Katelyn Faber posts on ChicagoNow...

  • In reply to Davidmon5:

    Well ... he IS getting older now.
    His outside shot doesn't fall quite as often.
    Who knows what kind of chemistry there would be.
    And most importantly, if they won, it would give kobe one more ring than Jordan.

    I just wondered if there were enough Kobe haters out there who wouldn't want him no matter what.

    It would be fun to see in my opinion. Kobe's always been a great defender when he wants to be.

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    End the comparisons once and for all...
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/la-sp-bryant-vs-jordan-i,0,4934057.htmlstory

    Kobe has a slightly better 3 pt % than Jordan, and chucks a lot more of them up. They're basically even on ft %. Everything else Jordan has a significant advantage.

  • In reply to efaily:

    This wasn't really about comparing Kobe to Jordan.

    It's about whether you think Kobe would be the kind of SG that could help us win a championship.

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    Understood, as a Bulls fan though, I thought it was a great unbiased statistical comparison others might like also.
    Could Kobe help the Bulls win a title? Certainly, although it's extremely unrealistic to think the Lakers would let Kobe go, or that he would sign with the Bulls for a minimum contract.
    Personally, I wouldn't want him to come to the Bulls, because I've never been a fan of his huge 'Me first' ego. But then, I still don't view the Bulls second 3 peat as fondly as the first because of Rodman.

  • In reply to Davidmon5:

    I think a buyout is more than likely than what people think, and I believe that Chicago is his preferred destination because he gets the chance to win and start.

  • In reply to BullsFTW:

    just curious, what makes you think so? he is owed a lot of money, and detroit is low on cash from what i gather. if i was rip, i wouldn't be giving any money back, his career is just about over. the bulls aren't going to give him long-term money. i'm just not seeing it from rip's point of view.

  • In reply to bucketball:

    The thing is, Rip getting a buy out would be beneficial for both sides in the long term. The Pistons saves money on a player they don't play at all. Rip at 33 needs a lot of playing time to prove he's worth in the league. He needs to play for a contract basically. If he can prove he's a fit, I don't see why can't the Bulls sign him for 2-3 years at a reasonable price. He's not washed up, a player in his built with his ability has probably 4 decent years left.

  • In reply to bucketball:

    Never was a huge fan of Hamiltons, totally not a fan of his now.

    There is something about him that reeks of selfishness, I do not think that he is a fit on the Bulls Chemistry wise, and I think that his skills have eroded to the point that I don't think that he adds much on the court either.

    If he has the choice, I see him choosing the Celtics over the Bulls. I think that he fits better in Boston than he does in Chicago.

  • In reply to bucketball:

    Why woudn't Detriot hold on to Hamilton until next season when they could possibly trade his expiring contract? Especially given the new CBA might put several teams in desperate cost cutting modes. Also, I don't believe the Bulls would bring Hamilton in at any price because of team chemistry. Same for JR Smith, although there's more upside to go along with the chamistry risk at least. Courtney Lee they would add for the right price, draft picks most likely, because he's a good character guy that shouldn't hurt team chemistry, along with the right age and salary, not to mention the right skill set for Thibs. He's a good, high effort wing defender with a good 3 pt shot. Basically a younger Bogans, with somewhat better offense that could also run with Rose and Noah.

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    No!

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