Bulls finally beat the Bobcats

Derrick Rose threw out terms like 'revenge' and 'easy game' when before tip off.   Even with the extra blackboard material, the Bulls rolled over the Bobcats while playing fairly poor basketball most of the night.  I like the term 'easy game' more than revenge in this case as you can't really avenge an embarrassing loss as you still have that embarrassing loss on your record. 

The Bobcats made their run at the Bulls a couple of times.  They closed out a lead in the second quarter before falling behind again at the half.   They tied the game up again in the mid third, but immediately fell behind again and entered the fourth with a big deficit.   The Bulls didn't smite the Bobcats, but they did win fairly comfortably giving us a Scalabrine and Johnson appearance at the end of the game.

Derrick Rose ripped up the blue print on stopping them by passing well out of the trap

Rose finished with 18 points, 13 assists, 3 rebounds, and 6 turnovers which isn't a particularly good game for him.   However, after an atrocious first half where he scored only five and had four of the turnovers, he did step it up considerably in the second half.

Early on, Rose struggled trying to split the double team and seemed to lose every play that could have gone either way causing a number of his turnovers.  He also lost the ball twice when over penetrating and having to pass the ball out from deep under the basket.

The good news is that despite six turnovers, Rose passed the ball effectively when trapped creating easy baskets for the team.   The Bobcats has been one of the most effective teams in trapping Rose previously, but the Bulls managed to punish them severely when they tried it this game, ripping up one more blue print on how to stop Derrick.

Luol Deng really stepped up his play

Deng was probably the most instrumental guy in helping Derrick Rose out when trapped.   He was frequently getting the ball with a weak zone in front of him and drove to the hoop to punish the Bobcats. 

With Deng driving very well with space in front of him, the Bobcats has little hope to defend the Bulls.   Deng also highlighted the Bulls second quarter when the bench came in scoring five points in about 30 seconds to give the Bulls their first real push in the game.

He didn't have a lot of defensive pressure on him most of the night, and he made the Bobcats pay for that.

Carlos Boozer had a so-so night

He had 16 points on 7-13 shooting which is always pretty good, but a lot of those points were pretty much gimmie baskets where Derrick Rose delivered him a great pass after a perimeter double team.

Still, Carlos did his job with the shots he had and gave the Bulls some efficient offense.  It wasn't a dominant night for him, but he played reasonably well.

Big Sexy and Keith Bogans set the tone early

Kurt Thomas knocked down two jumpers and a tip in the first six minutes of the game to help lift the Bulls early offense.   Keith Bogans knocked a couple of threes in the first quarter as well.   Having the weaker offensive players knock down their shots makes a huge difference for the Bulls offense and was one of the big reasons the Bulls had such an explosive first quarter with 29 points.

Kyle Korver was the X-Factor

Along with Luol Deng, Kyle Korver really made the big difference in this game for the Bulls.  He had 15 points with 2/2 on twos, 3/3 on threes, and 2/2 from the line.   When a guy scores 15 points on just six offensive possessions it makes a huge difference for the team.

Consider if the Bulls scored their average six points on those possessions instead and this game is a nail biter down the stretch.  The Bulls found Korver some good looks behind the three point line, but he drilled a few of those two point shots off screens that he's struggled with recently as well.

Great game for Korver, though he almost fouled with five fouls in just 15 minutes.

C.J. Watson and Taj Gibson both got robbed on non calls

In two plays that happened over about a 30 second span, the Bobcats got credit for two blocks that I believe both should have been goal tends.   The Watson one was absolutely a goal tend as the ball hit the backboard and bounced about six inches off it before it was blocked.  It was obvious at full speed and mind blowingly obvious in slow mo. 

I don't know how the refs managed to screw up that one.   The Gibson shot was closer, but it also looked like he got the ball on the glass prior to getting blocked.   In between those two plays, Omer Asik got called for a BS foul as well.    Those three consecutive calls were a six point swing in the game, and the Bulls still lead comfortably at the time.

Without them, the game may have turned into a blowout early though.

Scottie and Michael together again

Jordan attended the game with the Bobcats and watched from courtside sitting next to Scottie Pippen, the title on the yahoo sports picture said 'former players' which made me laugh as if it was Mike Sweetney and Eddie Basden checking out a game together.

Nice to see the pair together again though.

Final thoughts

I don't think this was really a 'monkey on our backs' type of game.   In reality, the Bulls should have beaten the Bobcats in their other two games, and they played fairly mediocrely here.   Rose and Boozer brought their C game, and they allowed the Bobcats fairly lousy offense to shoot 48% from the field.

The one thing they did was move the ball well offensively and the role players stepped up and played well.   They won largely because of a combined 11/14 30 point performance by Korver, Thomas, and Bogans and Luol Deng shooting 10/19 for 24 points.  The Bulls can't really count on that nightly, but then Derrick Rose isn't going 5/14 with six turnovers most nights either.

Good to get this one in the books, bring on the Spurs.

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  • So glad we got this W!! Doug I can't remember how many games ago was it that you started that 20 game outlook for the Bulls?? I think it was 9 games ago after the Bobcats game? So we are 7-2 so far with only one more game without Noah!! Not bad.. Are they on pace with what you thought?

  • In reply to UtahBullsFan:

    Bulls are actually 8 games in, still with those 2 loses (6-2)

  • In reply to UtahBullsFan:

    I think it started with the Orlando game ... so that would be 8 games ago.
    That would put us at 6-2 so far. Which isn't bad at all.
    The next 12 games is possibly the hardest stretch of our season. (Although there was a 12 game stretch earlier that was also pretty tough)

    An interesting note ... We haven't lost a big game in two and a half months (Dec. 3 @ Boston) The biggest losses would be against the Knicks on Christmas and maybe the Blazers (both currently #6 seeds) last week. But during that stretch, we've beaten the #2, #3, #4, and #5 seeds in the West ... and the #1, #2, and #5 seeds in the East.

    Hopefully we'll keep that streak alive against the Spurs tomorrow.

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    That record against quality teams is exactly why we are true contenders, also coupled with the fact that we have yet to play 1 game with our starting lineup 100%

  • In reply to UtahBullsFan:

    INTERESTING STAT ALERT:

    Bulls lead the NBA in 4th quarter scoring margin with a 2.6 pt differential, which is significantly better than 28 other NBA teams

    http://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/average-4th-quarter-margin

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    memphis and charlotte are in the top ten of your famous stats : ie it's meaningless !!

  • In reply to deewaves:

    DWave I think you're misusing ie there, bro.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Great stat.

  • Glad we beat the Bobcats finally!
    Nice to see Jordan and Pippen sitting next to each other courtside!

    I wish we had Livingston on our team! The guy is a huge PG at 6'7" and gave Rose trouble with his size and speed!
    I rewatched the youtube of his knee blowout and it's amazing he is back and at the level he is playing! Too bad the local kid (well Peoria, IL) isn't on the Bulls as their backup PG!

    Pretty funny, but also mean that King and Funk called Kwame a T-Rex with his small hands and zoomed in on them!
    We all know the guy has normal size hands but he is a 7 footer! :-)

    Asik is doing awesome the past few games, it sucks that Noah got hurt and hasn't played but with Asik and Thomas having strong games, I can't wait to see how we do once Noah gets back and we are playing like we are capable of! GO BULLS!!!!

  • We benefitted a lot from the absence of Tyrus Thomas. he was the X-factor in both previous losses

  • In reply to bulls6:

    Tyrus made a bone-headed or lucky play in the game they won at Charlotte. I think their coach was upset but then realized it somehow worked. I love Tyrus but he is a disaster waiting to happen during crucial moments.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    +100

    The ultimate hurts you more than he helps you guy, but all he cares about it making the highlight shows

  • In reply to bulls6:

    I'm really loving this Bulls team right now. 3rd in the East for now, and they're 5 games ahead of ATL and ORL. Tom Thibodeau has to win COY this year. If Scott Brooks of OKC can have a 50-32 record and get COY then Thibs damn well should win the award.

    And you know how we used to say that the more threes Bogans made the more games he would keep starting, well I think the more threes and the better Bogans keeps playing the less likely I see the Bulls making a deadline move. Noah will be back next week so it will be good to see a full Bulls team before the deadline. And now that I think about it, the deadline falls on that Heat game but IF they make a deadline deal sending out players the Bulls wouldn't have a full team for the Heat game cause more than likely we would be waiting for those players to pass physicals. I would really like to see this current team up against the Heat in that game.

  • In reply to joeacook3:

    I don't want to steal Doug's next blog post, but does anybody else see a correlation between the timing of JJ's run in the d-league and the trade deadline? Seems like a motive might have been to showcase him for a potential trade as much as a chance to get some run. I'd still like to see Thibs get him 8 minutes a night as Deng's backup, but Thibs doesn't seem to share that goal. And if Deng goes down, there is no way Korver can be effective in those heavy minutes.

  • In reply to bullshooter:

    JJ as Insurance Policy, or Trade Bait

    Although I think Coach Thibodeau is doing a fine job overall, his overuse of Deng mystifies me. Can't we use James Johnson to give Deng a break in minutes?

    JJ did fine in the developmental league but had one shot and an air ball last night as I recall.

    Luckily James Johnson is a good citizen and doesn't seem to be complaining. Wasn't Scottie Pippen working with JJ in practices? Whatever happened to those efforts.

    Just hope something good comes from this JJ scenario: more playing time or a decent trade.

  • In reply to bullshooter:

    bogans 3/4 from downtown, i think this guy really doesnt want to get traded. But Bulls shouldn't care about. They must send him away with brewer and the fisrt draft pick for JR smith !

  • In reply to deewaves:

    There is no way I would give Brewer+Bogans+1st for JR Smith

  • In reply to UtahBullsFan:

    this team with JR at 2 is much better than having bogans and brewer at 2. Seriously Brewer isn't a player. HE'S TOO LIMITED OFFENSIVLY. Smith is a hot scorer a hell of defender. he is tough. Bogans is nothing !

  • In reply to deewaves:

    there is no way Bulls management would take on JR Smith, the guy is a nutbag. Are you crazy?

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    i dont mind his behavior. He is a good basketball player. If it was matter of behavior, no nba teams would like to have lebron.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Its not a question if you'd mind his attitude, its a question of if Paxon, Forman, Reinsdorf, & Thibs would mind it, and if the team would mind it.

    You can't compare LeBron to JR Smith

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    and u do mind his attitude ??

  • In reply to deewaves:

    personally? not really. If I had to play with him I probably would. I don't think the team would respond well to that deal, so indirectly, yes, I would have a problem.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    There's no easy way to get Smith. Denver won't take on salary to give him up, and we don't have expirings to match.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    aren't bogans, brewer, watson signed for for 1 year ??

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Watson and Brewer are both guaranteed for next season as well as this season. JR Smith expires at the end of this season.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    ok

  • In reply to deewaves:

    JR Smith is one of the worst defenders in the league, and he has the basketball IQ of a goldfish. No thanks.

  • In reply to joeacook3:

    good win from bulls. Bobcats had to learn who are the best.
    Trade deadline is coming very faster : Bulls must do somthing !!

  • In reply to deewaves:

    -100

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    haha!

  • In reply to joeacook3:

    I'm favoring status quo now. I actually want Bogans to start (with this current group of 2 guards). If he keeps hitting those 3's to the tune of 50%, I have no problem with him getting 15mpg, and starting with Rose

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    In playoffs, he can't keeps hitting 3's.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    you know this?

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    BTW, everyone had been saying New York is the team you don't want to get in the first round (along with anyone you would play as the 4th or 5th seed), or that New York could be the team you don't want to play (Melo), but take a look at what Philly has been doing. They have gotten some huge wins, are playing together as a team, and are 23-15 over their last 38 games.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    what's ur point ?? dont get u ! do u mean philly can beat NY ?

  • In reply to deewaves:

    its an unrelated topic

    just saying you don't want Philly in the 1st round, they are getting better, much better

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Philly is clearly better than New York and will likely catch and pass them. So it's likely if the Bulls stay in the 3 seed they'll face them. Still the Bulls are a far better team and it should be a fairly easy match up.

    I'm not worried about New York so much, they're not going to shoot 60% or whatever stupid number the shot from three to beat the Bulls every night in a 7 game series. So long as Denver holds out on not giving up Melo cheaply even if they make a trade they're not going to be much better.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    If NY gets Melo, which I expect, then that will likely no longer be the case.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    If they get Melo for the reported asking price they're not hugely improved. I'd actually fear them less, because they'd give up three point shooters which is the only way they've beaten the Bulls.

  • In reply to joeacook3:

    So u want bulls to take a risk of not improving the team just because of one game ? Don't forget Noah wont be 100% this game, bulls will certainly loose anyway.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    it's pretty much the last month & 1/2, not just 1 game. Bogans has been doing extensive work on his jumper & follow through with lead assistant Ron "The shooting doctor" Adams, but of course you already knew that being the knowledgeable fan that you are ;)

    And its more risky to bring in a head case or someone that wants more than only team success than it is standing pat. Like Mitch says though, if a great deal presents itself, by all means...But don't make a deal just to add a player. Address it in the summer.

    note I just realized your response was not directed to me, but I don't care, it's still relevant.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    when i says one game. I'm talking about the upcoming game miami heat vs chicago. ManOnNeptune said that he would really like to see this current team up against the Heat in that game.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    I know, sorry, I realized that to late, and didn't feel like erasing my thoughts. You're right, its crazy to make a move/not make a move for 1 regular season game

  • In reply to deewaves:

    If the Bulls can improve in both the long term and short term than they should absolutely do so. If they can only improve in one of those facets then they need to weigh the cost/benefits of the long term vs the short term.

    Obviously if they improve their situation in both respects it's a no brainer, otherwise it takes more thought.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    +1 i totally agree !

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    this always is the case, always goes without saying

    but I don't think you are at all desperate to make a move to compete

  • In reply to joeacook3:

    I'm hoping everyone votes for Jerry Sloan as coach of the year. Since he's retired it'd be a clear lifetime achievement award, he deserves it. Probably never happen though.

  • In reply to bulls6:

    -100

  • In reply to bulls6:

    When I heard Tyrus would be out for this game, I knew it would be easier to beat them.

    And it has less to do with the numbers he put up on the court as it did with the attitude he brings when he plays against the Bulls.
    He plays against us with a chip on his shoulder ... as if we should have kept his under achieving ass ... and that attitude seems to infuse his team when we go head to head.

  • Trapping Rose will be Harder

    In watching the game, the double teams on Rose seemed pretty intense.

    Is it a good guess that when Noah comes back with his quickness and coming to the ball, that these traps on Rose will decrease?

    Also, since I am an Omer Asik fan, do we expect to see more or less of Asik when Noah comes back? I'm just wondering what creative ideas Thibodeau is working on as he gets ready for Noah's return.

    What a fun team. And as I've said before, the best addition to the team this year is Coach Thibodeaux.

  • In reply to rkraneis:

    u're an Asik fan ?! ur post doesnt deserve to be read !

  • In reply to deewaves:

    -100

    Asik has been playing great, what can you possibly not like about him?

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Asik is great ? So Mbenga, thabeet, chris richard, arron gray are also great.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    come on, get real. I said he's playing great, as in doing everything that's asked of him. Those extra possesions on the rebounds are huge. The way he protects the paint is huge. He is an active athletic 7 foot rookie. No one's asking him to be the next Shaq, but he's helping the team no doubt, and is only going to get stronger 7 better.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Good to see deewaves is giving Happy competition for biggest troll on this blog.

  • In reply to jpbaker81:

    i'm going to make the pressure until the deadline !! i really think, we need changes !

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    u're right but nevertheless i would trade him Lee !!

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    I've noticed a trend of late.

    Rose's FG% is down a little this year. So I've been watching his shot selection lately.
    I realize that with the greater quantity of 3 point shots, his percentage was going to go down.
    But there's another part as well.
    He's taking several bail out shots per game now.
    The Bulls run their offense ... going through option one and then option two ... and if we don't get anything out of them, Rose ends up getting the ball back with 4 to 5 seconds left on the clock and having to quickly make something out of nothing.
    It's not terribly worrisome right now, but I wish the players would take the open shots that they are being given when the offense does it's job.

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    +100. It concerns Luol, bogans and brewer ! fake shooters. the team needs another scorer than Rose and Boozer. Please GarPax make a trade quickly !!

  • In reply to deewaves:

    It concerns everyone. Boozer, Taj, and Korver have been just as guilty.

    And we have other scorers than Rose and Boozer ... have you not noticed that Deng is averaging about 18ppg? That's star quality production.
    Korver and Noah returning soon.

    Lay off the nonsense please.

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    Boozer is consistent. But not Deng. Do u know deng gets 18 ppg ? : he scores 10, 28, 16, 24, 8, 20, 40(portland game), 12, 15,22,10 ... if u do an average u'll 18 ppg. And how can u count on a player who give 40 on a given night then give 8 ?? How are we suppose to beat heat in playoffs if dengs

  • In reply to deewaves:

    24, 39, 23, 24, 51, 19, 12, 41, 16, 22, 27 ... do those numbers look familiar?

    How about ... 41, 16, 24, 17, 28, 22, 14, 34?

    The first is Lebron's last 11 games.
    The second is Wade's last 8 games.
    The Heat seem to be doing just fine with their "inconsistent" play.

    Do you even watch basketball?

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    OWNED.

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    +100

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    when lebron goes off, there's still wade and vice-versa. how can u compare boozer with wade when lebron is off ??

  • In reply to deewaves:

    I thought we were talking about Deng?
    Can you stay on topic please.
    And when Deng has an off night, I thought that what we have Rose and Boozer for?
    You're not making any sense at all.

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    anyway when lebron is off he still score 20 pts, when deng is off he makes 10pts. Lebron doesnt spend the whole half without a point. wade or lebron doesnt dont always disapear the 4th quarter !!

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    Interesting stat:
    It has been 18 games now since Bogan's shooting % improved and we are 14-4.
    Another interesting stat:
    In the 18 games before Bogans improved shooting % we were 14-4

  • In reply to adocarbog:

    +100 ! At last interesting stats : It shows how much that guy has no impact !!!

  • In reply to adocarbog:

    28 - 8 ... a 64 win pace for the season. Yep, we suck. Time to get rid of the whole team and start over.

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    he only means bogans adds nothing to the team! don't overreact !

  • In reply to deewaves:

    How ironic that our team is far ahead of expectations this season and playing absolutely great, and yet you're the one demanding that changes be made while telling other people to not overreact.
    Why don't you try taking your own advice and stop overreacting.

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    yes we are far ahead of expectations this season and playing absolutely great. but we arent yet ready to win a championship. that'S why we need changes.

  • In reply to adocarbog:

    Deng's three point percentage fell off a cliff the same time Bogans three point percentage went up. That's pretty odd, but the balance has been that the team's three point shooting has stayed fairly flat.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Except it hasn't, Bulls are shooting 40.6% over the last month (14 games). They've been absolutely on fire from three lately.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Well the Rose coach firing effect is in reverse with Silas getting the full time nod after a loss to the Bulls. Who will Rose give an extension to next?

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    The Indiana coach?

  • In reply to adocarbog:

    the competition over the last 18 was more difficult than the previous 18 however, & the last 18 were all without Noah, while the 18 before that featured 7 games with Noah

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    I am far less scared of Boston now that I have seen the development of Asik and what Kurt can still do!! Our rotation of bigs is amazing to me because they variety of different skills and attributes they have.

    Once our bigs rotation is healthy we can counter matchup problems and create ones of our own this is going to be the funnest playoff run for the Bulls since 98!!

  • In reply to UtahBullsFan:

    Interesting point, Asik will be huge against big front lines. And Kurt as well.

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    Boozer, Noah, Taj, Thomas, and Asik
    vs.
    Garnett, Perkins, Davis, Shaq, and Jermaine O'neal (If he makes it back)

    I'd like my chances in that matchup.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    FYI:

    Ronnie Brewer hurt his hand yesterday. He's having an MRI done.

    * And let's not pick on Reesel. He's a smart Bulls' fan.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Where did you hear this from? I couldn't find it anywhere

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I wouldn't call it picking on me Happy, it's just that a lot of these guys don't like that I keep things on a realistic perspective when it comes to the Bulls. We are all Bulls fans that post on this Blog but some are homer fans and don't like when some of us speak the truth or negative about the Bulls. It is what it is and trust me when I say I get a kick out of some of these guys responses to my comments cause I noticed that I do annoy quite a few even tho that's not my intention. It's all good tho and I appreciate you, deewaves and a few others being able to see what's really going on with the Bulls. They are a good team but still need another scorer to be able to compete for and win a championship and hopefully they will do something next week to address that. Now... where the homers at, I know they got something to say.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    +100 well said ! we're all bulls fans but it's absurd to think this bulls roster can beat miami or boston 4 of 7 seven games in playoffs !

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Speaking of stats...JR Smith's career numbers are not much better than Bogans...I def dont trade anything of worth for him. (Not Asik for sure and I personally like Brewer more than Smith)

  • In reply to bullswin60606:

    no comments on madness!! basketball isn't only about stats : don't be clueless like john holinger !!

  • In reply to deewaves:

    preach!

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    it's simply stupid what he is saying. No matter what the statistic tells, how can u compare bogans to smith ?? u are comparing garbage time player with a guy who can win 6th man of the year award. I dont need to preach anything. I dont want to be rude, but that'S madness.

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    That doesn't concern me so much as when the ball comes to Brewer to make a long two or a three because someone else passed up a shot.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    True, that's not a good position to be in as well.

  • it's really great that he is seeing it now, and getting better at beating it now. He will be ready for it come playoffs.

  • +100

  • Another interesting stat, this was on the pregame of the Bobcats feed... Derrick Rose accounts for 45% of the Bull's offense which is #1 in the NBA. If that stat doesn't say MVP I don't know what will.

  • In reply to Dileg:

    that's what I have been saying all along

    take that stat (field goal invlovement), add in the effort teams place on stopping Rose & game plans that are devoted to him, throw in his team success without another all-star on the team, throw it in a blender, and you have the MVP

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    a top it all off with good defense

  • I think in the playoffs, quarters 1-3 become a bit more like quarter 4. I like this stat a lot. I think it really tells you who comes to play when the game is on the line, who puts games away when they have to. Numbers can be skewed a bit when teams are usually blowing people out (Miami), or getting blown out (Cleveland) in the 4th, but all in all this is a good sign.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    however, the Bulls style does seem to play into this stat. They usually keep it close or fall behind a little, then make their run in the 4th.

  • +1

  • It's just fake player as brewer, bogans or asik for what u need(Smith, mayo or Lee). It's very different from Orlando case.

  • They do in "Happy Land" where you just snap your fingers and Luol Deng is swapped for Carmelo Anthony.

  • they thought Lewis or Carter weren't important, weakness or whatever that's why they're in a bad situation. But in our case, brewer and bogans aren't indespensible. Smith defends as well as them and scores far better. Asik important ? this guy doesn'T even play every game therefore ...

  • I think it's a reasonable comment.

    As frustrating as Tyrus can be he is a difference maker on defense. That's not saying the Bobcats are a better team or anything, just that if he hadn't played in the first two games the Bulls probably would have won those too.

  • IMO it's about the bench. The Bulls bench is deeper than most other teams so I think they probably put up most of that margin at the start of the 4th when they have Watson/Brewer/Korver/Gibson/Asik as the lineup. Teams second units have real problems scoring on those guys.

  • He makes 1.8 next year, 2.8 is if we pick up his option for the 4th year (which I can't really see happening). I can certainly see the Bulls holding on to him as a guy they can use to help match salary since he's an expiring. I mean Brewer/Korver/Watson will all be on the last guaranteed year of their deal next year too but you probably want to keep them if possible so having any other sort of expiring is helpful.

  • IMO...i dont think we are quite good enough to beat Boston or Miami in a 7 game series...that being said, if there isnt any deal out there, then what can we do? If thats the case, lets just wait til the summer....ORRRRR like hoopshype.com is reporting...looks like the Bulls are looking into JR Smith. If we can somehow get him on the cheap....DO IT! Guys like Rose,Booz,Deng,Noah and coach Thibs should all be able to keep him in check.

    Happy is right though...i just heard on the radio that Brewer has a hand injury.

  • In reply to Csharp:

    Maybe it will free some more time for Korver? Maybe some for JJ?

    I think the Bulls can compete with the best, but no one will know until the sieries' actually start.

  • I'm not saying Tyrus is the main reason, I'm saying in a close game if you take our one of the winning teams' rotation players then you probably make a difference.

    You take the good with the bad with Tyrus, everyone knows he's never seen a pump fake he didn't like and he's not always going to read the play that well. On the other hand any shot that goes up near him he's going to effect, and he's quick enough to get near a lot of shots.

    If he gave effort and played smarter on offense like he has thus far on the Bobcats I'd be happy to still have him on his current contract. He's better than Gibson or Asik, even if he didn't always show it on the Bulls. That said, if he wasn't traded to give him a wake up call I'm sure he'd still be walking up and down the court not giving a crap.

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