Bulls Beat #177 - #1 PG

Bulls Beat #177 - #1 PG

Derrick Rose proves he's the best point guard in the NBA by crushing his rivals in head to head match ups on the road. I also discuss the Bulls fight for seeding in the playoffs and how they can prove they're worthy of Jerry spending luxury tax dollars on improving the team.


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  • Thanks Doug. I'm going to listen to it during my run. One comment based on what you wrote here: have the Bulls really not proved already that they're worthy of the tax?

  • In reply to WearShades:

    I don't think they've proved it to Jerry.

  • In reply to WearShades:

    Funny that the Celtics beat the Heat today to mock my prediction that the Heat will easily beat the Celtics in the playoffs. Though I still believe that will be true.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    Funny, I thought the exact opposite. I like the Celtics D a lot. They make you beat them with good ball movement and trap rather well. There is a few great help defenders on that team. If Perkins is healthy, I like the Celtics over the heat. I think Garnett will do well against Bosh defensively, although that really wasn't the case today. I truly believe that if you stop Bosh, you force the Heat do be one-dimensional with dribble penetration by the big 2. That being said, it is one hell of a single dimension. Again, I see Perkins as the key to them winning the series against Miami. He plays, they win. He sits, Miami wins.

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    I think Miami will do well in the playoffs..They will gel and will get better while Boston is a failure waiting to happen this year

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    This seems to be the consensus of people on here and my friends as well. Why doesn't anyone like the Celtics? They appear to be more well rounded than any other team in the Eastern Conference.

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    They are very well rounded, and I certainly wouldn't be shocked if the Celtics won the title. I would put them probably second on my odds to win the title behind Miami.

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    One big worry for the Celtics is if KG can stay healthy through to the end of the playoffs. They probably would have won last year if he was 100%.

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    If the Bulls can get a trade for Afflalo they should, it's a no-brainer.

    The Bulls have a SF, it's Deng. They need a shooting guard and it's clear the Bulls have enough go-to scorers in Rose and Boozer -- they just need a defensive shooting guard who can score 20 on any given night (like Deng) if his name is called.

    Enter Arron Afflalo.
    He would be a great upgrade for the Bulls. He is an all-defense player, a fantastic shooter (.511 this year and .447 on 3's), he's hit clutch shots and he's also young and has a very cheap contract.

  • In reply to JonoHimself:

    And Denver is unaware of all this.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    If that's sarcasm, obviously Denver are aware... I said "IF" the Bulls can get the trade, meaning Chicago could have something the Nuggets need after they've dealt Carmelo.

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:


    * Nick Young went for 30+ again.

    * Melo came up with 28 points.

    Outside of those two guys, there aren't any solid UPGRADES available, which can get the Bulls a #1 Seed. Without a #1 Seed, the Bulls have a very slim chance of making it to the NBA Finals.

    An NBA championship is all that matters.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Beware of knuckleheads scoring a lot of points for really bad teams on 25 game losing streaks.

    Not likely to be much of a team player, which means not likely to be a championship caliber player. If we wanted Nick Young we could have just kept Gordon, although one thing in YOungs favor, he is not a midget.

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    Couldn't agree more about the Heat and shutting down Bosh.
    Side note:As for yesterday's KG v.s Bosh match up, I will take the guy who's willing to hit his opponent in the man zone over, the baby who cries because someone dives for the ball at his feet.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    I think there are some strange dynamics on who can beat who in the East.

    I think the Bulls can beat the Celtics and Heat, but would struggle at times with the way the Magic play.
    The Heat easily beat the Magic but have no chance against the Celtics.
    The Magic can't beat the Celtics or Heat.

    And that's not always the way it would be, but the differences in play style sometimes makes for interesting matchups.
    I really do believe that if any team has a chance to knock the Celtics out of the East, it's the Bulls. If we don't do it, I don't think anyone else will in the East.

  • In reply to WearShades:

    I'm with you on Rose, I had said that the Bulls had to build around him like he's a superstar not because he is likely to become one but because what other option did they have? It's certainly been a pleasant surprise that he actually is playing like a superstar.

    As far as the tax goes, the prospect of a new CBA makes it pretty hard to speculate. It's hard to know how many teams will typically pay the tax and how far over it the Bulls would have to go to get another big name player under a new agreement.

  • In reply to WearShades:

    Great podcast!

  • In reply to WearShades:

    ironic that you'd pick today to call dwight howard out on not being a finisher haha. But generally Id agree with you.

  • In reply to Fumbles:

    It wasn't a close game at the end.

  • In reply to WearShades:

    You brought the Iguadala thing again. While in a vacumn I wouldn't mind Iggy on the Bulls, and I have/had suggest trading Deng for him on several occasions.

    I don't think that Iggy is a true 2 Guard, and the way that he shoots he is definately a shooting guard. I think that is fairly well acknowledged around the league that he plays much better as a small foward.

    while he would bring a temendous amount to the Bulls defensively and athletically, he doesn't fill the bulls big need at 2 guard, shooting .

    Finally, his contract is more hideous than Deng's, so there is no way that you could have them both on this team, especially pre new CBA.

    Lastly, I am extremely loath to trade Asik this year, before we have him for one offseason, and see how much he improves in year 2.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    I suggested trading for him in the off-season, the new CBA would be around.

    I also recommend it not because I think he's the perfect fit, but because he's WAY better than what we have and likely available for what we have.

    I'd rather add Kevin Martin, but I don't think he's available for what we have.

  • In reply to DougThonus:

    How do we match salaries without including Deng? Doesn't Iggy already make Boozer type money.

    Agree on Martin, in fact I'd like Martin and Iggy and no Deng, salary cap issues ignored.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    You can match Iggy a few ways, you can use Brewer and Korver and a cheap third guy like JJ or Bogans, or you can use Watson and Bogans and JJ and one of Brewer or Korver.

    Not that it really matters, I really disagree with the premise, if Philly wants to dump Iggy they can almost certainly do so right now for a trade exception and save a lot more money than dumping him for expirings in the off season. There's no reason what so ever to believe Iggy is actually available in a salary dump.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Exactly Bigway,
    Bulls dilemma is lack of assets. They need to ADD an impact level SG, but can

  • In reply to WearShades:

    Doug, go back and listen to podcast #47 minute 11, you'll get a kick out of it

  • In reply to Daniel7123:

    Haha, not too bad.

    I'll be thankful you didn't pick any one of the really embarrassingly wrong predictions that I'm sure I've made.

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