How does Derrick post his first triple double without being the lead?

How did the Bulls respond to a road game against a decent team without Boozer and Noah?

Luol Deng scored 28 and suffocated Rudy Gay with his defense.  Kyle Korver drained six threes to help build the lead and demoralize the Grizzlies every time they had a chance to make a run.   Gibson, Asik, and Thomas combined to play truly outstanding interior defense which shut down the paint for the Grizzlies.

Oh, and Derrick Rose had a triple double as well, grabbing the final rebound just before the final buzzer.

Credit the defense first

First and foremost, the Bulls won this game on the defensive end of the court.  Gibson threw a block party with six blocks helping the Bulls overcome an apparent lack of talent and depth inside.

The Grizzlies were held to just 37.7% free throw shooting though the Bulls hacked them plenty to keep the percentage that low.   The big guns for Memphis couldn't get anything going though as Zach Randolph scored 21 on 26 possessions while Rudy Gay scored 9 on 15 possessions.

Ironically, Bulls trade target, the slumping O.J. Mayo, had perhaps the best night for the Grizzlies shooting 7/14 from the field.   However, it was far from enough as the Bulls were never threatened.

It's hard to believe this is Rose's first triple double

He has all the tools to rack up a few triple doubles, but playing with Noah/Boozer probably limits his rebounding chances.   Still, you'd have thought he'd have had one by now.   The Bulls really needed Rose to step up on the glass this game, and he came through.  Without Noah/Boozer, the Bulls guards needed to rebound.  Mission accomplished.

Offensively, it wasn't Rose's best game, or even close.  He missed a lot of shots and many of his assists were gimmies by just flipping the ball to Korver for a jumper.   Still, great effort by Rose to score for the Bulls, distribute the ball, and help on the glass.   Even when he's not dominating the point totals, he commands so much attention that everyone else's job is immensely easier.

The open looks for Korver/Deng were a result of the Grizzlies being ready to quadruple team Rose all the time.

Luol Deng played at his best

He knocked down his open jump shots and slashed to the basket over and over taking advantage of the lanes Derrick Rose left for him.  He just blew up Rudy Gay on defense as Gay couldn't get anything going at all.     He even passed the ball well and helped on the glass.

If Deng could play this well with a healthy roster, the Bulls would be nearly unstoppable.  Playing this well today compensated for the Bulls missing out on their
other key players.

Kyle Korver busted out of that slump

22 points and six made threes.   Korver's shooting was one of the biggest difference makers in the game.   The Bulls got him open looks, and he found his rhythm.  Hopefully, he can keep it up going forward, because the Bulls are deadly when Korver shoots this well.

Taj Gibson stepped it up

As mentioned earlier, Gibson blocked shot after shot and contested even more.  His interior defense was one of the primary reasons the Bulls were able to win the game, and he scored at a much better clip than he had in recent performances.  

Gibson seems to play better with the starters and when he knows he's going to have a big role on the night.  Perhaps the uncertainty of his minutes and role when coming off the bench hurt him, but Gibson played like earlier this season when Boozer was out.

Kurt Thomas knocked down his mid range jumper

After struggling to score earlier in his stretch, Kurt Thomas has done an admirable job the past couple games of knocking down the mid range shot when left open.  His defense has continued to be solid, especially given his lack of footspeed.   If only we could bottle that and give it to Boozer.

Don't look now, but two decent games in a row for Bogans

His totals might not look awesome, but four boards, three assists, and four points in 16 minutes is a solid night for Bogans.  We'd actually be content to take that from him most nights and consider it to be a high quality contribution for him.

I still think the Bulls should bench Bogans, but the past couple games he's been contributing rather than killing the Bulls. 

Final thoughts

The Bulls found a way to get a win without Noah and Boozer which is big for them, especially since it's a road game and an early start.  Hopefully the Bulls can keep the momentum going against the Bobcats tomorrow.

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  • The way Rose is playing...a decent SG would look great next to him like a Jed Buechler next to MJ. I guess Mayo might be the best of the lot in terms of age, contract, skill set etc.. Now, only if he was available!..

    I think this was probably Deng's best game this season if you think of all the issues(playing on the road, missing Noah/Boozer, playing against an borderline all-star) and he played great on both ends.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    No arron afflalo..ibeen bandwagoning the guy since preseason because of last year..

    No one is better for us than arron afflalo..no one has to worry about shots..no one has to worry about being a defensive liabilty like mayo(korver was open for most shots) and no one comes at a cheaper price and better mentality then afflalo who's a gym rat like the other four guys he"ll be next to.. mayo will want 10 million next year.. nothing less.. afflalo..around 8.5. Mind you our offensive system stays the same..rather than adjust to mayo..afflalo plays the bogans role but on steroids ..

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Boozer staying healthy is critical in the long run, but right now with Taj being more of the featured post guy and getting more minutes/important role on the team again this cloud certainly does have a silver lining.

    If Thibs would play Taj 26-28 minutes a game with Booz some at center, and start Kyle at SG with Derrick, and get C.J. all Bogan's minutes at SG for a total of 25 or more a game with Ronnie getting up to his 30 subbing for Deng then Thibs would get my vote for best coach in the league bar none. Course he's already done one hell of a job with the defense and player effort has never been better.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    100%

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    Derrick Rose

    It's becoming clear, even to me, that Rose is something special.

    I can't think of another Chicago athlete so critical to his team.

    For the Bulls winning the #1 draft pick, the odds were just a little over 100:1. That sounds about right.

    Rose is something special.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    There is no one playing better basketball than DRose right now period. He has had 2 starters out for basically the majority of the season at different times and the Bulls are still winning. He has improved in every aspect of the game and the Bulls are on pace to win 15 more games than last year. He is the MVP right now. The only competition I see is Amare. I feel New York will have a tough second half though.

  • In reply to argie2333:

    He's shooting a lower percentage this year than any other in his career. That is to be expect with volume though.

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    He's shooting a lower percentage from the field, but a higher percentage from three and the line. That, combined with him taking a higher percentage of threes and free throws, means he's been slightly more efficient this year despite the increase in volume.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Amare Stoudemire will not be MVP. His team is sinking and will struggle to remain above .500 after playing bad lately against bad teams. Despite making SC top plays with some great blocks, he really is a liability on defense. It's no surprise that none of the teams he has ever been on were good defensively. He makes Carlos Boozer look talented on defense.

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    Via ESPN

    "Time and again, the Suns scored with ease in the paint, with Stoudemire being especially passive on defense whenever he felt he needed to guard against foul trouble harder than he was guarding whatever Phoenix player was attacking the rim. Stoudemire also picked up his 12th technical foul for playfully but forcefully intentionally bumping ex-teammate Channing Frye after he fouled Frye on a drive to the basket, and another four techs will earn him an automatic one-game suspension --as will technicals Nos. 18, 20, 22, etc.

    "I'm going to have to play with a zipper on my lips," Stoudemire said.

    The technical on Stoudemire was issued by quick-triggered and occasionally short-tempered referee Joey Crawford, who was in rare form in asserting his presence and making his voice heard. During one juncture in the second quarter, Crawford screamed at Gentry and D'Antoni to both return to their seats, which prompted Carter to offer the following advice to Crawford: "Relax, Joey."

    "No! You relax!" Crawford shouted back.

    But the only thing that relaxed from that point on was the Knicks' defense, and that was their demise on a day when they again were reminded how far they still have to go to make the leap to the NBA's next level."

    I'd be pissed if D'Antoni and Amare were in Chicago rather than
    Thibs and Boozer. DRose MVP all the way.

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    Via ESPN

    "Time and again, the Suns scored with ease in the paint, with Stoudemire being especially passive on defense whenever he felt he needed to guard against foul trouble harder than he was guarding whatever Phoenix player was attacking the rim. Stoudemire also picked up his 12th technical foul for playfully but forcefully intentionally bumping ex-teammate Channing Frye after he fouled Frye on a drive to the basket, and another four techs will earn him an automatic one-game suspension --as will technicals Nos. 18, 20, 22, etc.

    "I'm going to have to play with a zipper on my lips," Stoudemire said.

    The technical on Stoudemire was issued by quick-triggered and occasionally short-tempered referee Joey Crawford, who was in rare form in asserting his presence and making his voice heard. During one juncture in the second quarter, Crawford screamed at Gentry and D'Antoni to both return to their seats, which prompted Carter to offer the following advice to Crawford: "Relax, Joey."

    "No! You relax!" Crawford shouted back.

    But the only thing that relaxed from that point on was the Knicks' defense, and that was their demise on a day when they again were reminded how far they still have to go to make the leap to the NBA's next level."

    I'd be pissed if D'Antoni and Amare were in Chicago rather than
    Thibs and Boozer. DRose MVP all the way.

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    Its really a shame because Amare has the tools to be a freakish defender, guys like that piss me off.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Plus he's not adverse to throwing the shoot percentage killing half court shot at the end of the quarter.

  • In reply to Waldock:

    That's DRose, From back to Shake's comment about shooting %

  • In reply to Waldock:

    Doubles.

    Not double doubles, or even triple doubles. Doubles as in two defenders flanking a deadly(MVP) threat like two MP's guarding a dangerous captive. "Tssshhh, Charlie Bravo we have the target sighted. Target engaged. Over." "Roger that Charlie Bravo target has 28 kills(wins). Fleet(League) wide alert has been issued. Use all force necessary.. eradicate. Repeat, eradicate. Do you copy?" "10-4 that."

    Look either you see it this way or you don't, but like Kobe, Wade, M.J. on the rise, the doubling of Rose is getting proportionally more agressive/desperate as his team, the Bulls who now stand at a fairly stellar 28-13. Especially considering the injuries, and loss of two all-star caliber players for good chunks of the season.

    As Derrick Roses's numbers mount so do the landscape altering, pecking order disturbance of his soaring Chicago Bulls. And yes when you are emerging as a true league dominating stud, not dominating in stats alone, but wins, then the doubles come out of the woodwork. Out from the foul line to the three point line. Even the poor defensive teams get worked up not wanting to take their turn in the barell with the Bulls and Alpha Leader D-Rose taking them out.

    But as the dedication of forces escalates eventually a response is required. Point being, if you do realize an escalation of doubling has ocurred(from the foul line until now out to the three point line) since oh the Charlotte game, then Miami, and certainly the Memphis game then eventually there has to be a response. Derrick's not going to keep scoring 24.5 ppg under that kind of duress. Scorers score at a prolific rate because they can do it with relative ease. Going to the line. Slicing people up to get to the rim or wide open mid range floaters. And retreating under screens means three bombs away.

    A smaller guy like Wade has seen extended doubles especially when the team gets hot - his game and the team's mounting winning beomce a threat. So what do you do? Different things.

    Maybe the biggest is sending a big/screen, and then slipping to the basket as the Bulls have done a couple of times with Taj and Kurt. You'd think Boozer would be good at this, but oddly enough when he gets the ball away from the basket he tends to setlle for jumpers. Another thing, Iso with everybody out past the three point line for several plays in a row. If they still double then bring the screen, and dish it to him. You agressively push toward the rim(Reggie Miller, Wade) and get the ball back in lethal open space. Or you can do a guard/guard screen and let them(the other guard - Kyle, C.J., Ronnie) attack in open space. Or the screener runs to a spot, and you practice this knowing where he's coming, and then you take out one defender, and run past the other.

    Of course there are other things you can do with hyper extended doubles, but right now they've mostly been effective in slowing Derrick down. That's saying something considering Rose had 34 against the Heat, and a triple double in Memphis. But his confidence and speed are so high right now that he still has done a lot of damage. Still, it has restricted him at times. And if you allow opponents to take the ball out of your hands consistently it does wear down your energy/make the game to difficult to continue scoring at a prolific pace.

    Hopefully the Bulls will make the adjustment. Of course it's easier to double a scoring guard who you know is going to walk up with ball, and be the focal point running the offense as opposed to a SG who can roam. But the Bulls probably don't want to change a 6'2 player into a SG. So other countermeasures will have to be employed.

    One final note: if the Bulls do meet Miami in the playoffs that hyper extended double team will be employed guaranteed. And a certain big who can slip that double/screen, and handle the ball like few other bigs/7 footers(and happens to have a 37 inch vertical) already plays for Chicago. His name.. Joakim Noah. And he could be the answer the Bulls need against the doubling Heat/league.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    Agree...If we meet Miami in the playoffs, you can bet that Rose will see double teams and traps. And LeBron and Wade are probably the only two who can match him in athleticism from the elite teams and not just go on guile or skill(like Pierce, Kobe,Rondo). That's where Noah and Boozer can have their max impact and help Rose.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    Awesome win against a tough Front Court with our backups...I'm liking this Watson DRose tandem Thibs is breaking out here and there...makes you think he just might bench Bogans someday. Change CAN be good :-)

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    When teams double Rose (at least the good defensive teams), it underscores the need for 2nd ball handler on the perimeter that handles well enough to let Rose play off the ball from time to time. Watson can be that guy against smallish back courts but it would be a problem defensively against big back courts.

  • In reply to magestew:

    Watson's height deficiencies aren't as big of a deal defensively as some may think. Sure he won't get blocks and he can't force players to elevate their shot as much. But he can contest shots fine, he is quick, and is the perfect size to get the benefit of the doubt in close charge/block fouls.

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    Agreed CS. His steals per minutes are excellent, and he stays in front of his man probably as well as any guard on the Bulls.

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    REALITY CHECK

    look how well SAM YOUNG play against BOGANS... hahahah soon mappy is gonna demand we trade for Bogans

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    Yea the issue is Rose is forced to bail the team out all the time. When everything breaks down they just toss it to him with 3 seconds left on the shot clock and he is forced to throw up a low percentage shot.

  • yeah !!! he is playing as a real mvp right now. no question about that. I mean who could beat him in mvp race ?
    -Howard ? he is not the first scoring option of orlando. They'd rather take 3pt shot than feed howard in the low-post.
    -Stoodemire ?? his team record isn't enough good.
    Nowiztki ?? he runs away from court giving injury as a justification.
    Lebum ?? i don't think so, queen james doesn't deserves that becuz he's already win it 2 times but didn't bring any championship title.
    ROSE FOR MVP. LET'S KEEP YELLING MVP EVERY TIME HE GOES TO THE LINE AT THE UNITED CENTER !!

    s

  • That what i was about. i've been telling that bulls don't need Noah even boozer to beat like memphis, charlotte, New Jersey and Philly. Wasn't I right ??? Next time bulls gonna play ugly basket-ball and loose against wizards or rapotors, I hope nobody is going to say it'S because of Noah injury.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    the Bulls played great, but you're not going to shoot like that every game

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Bulls won this game because of what I have said in the past, they need to remain focused. Noah already not with the team and now with the hopefully minor injury to Boozer, the team was ready to play and was 100% focused. That's all it takes for this team to win the games that they are suppose to win if they are to remain one of the top teams in the eastern conference.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Its true focus got us the win, and we should expect focus on every night. But the reality is NBA teams are composed of humans with some of the same everyday worries and problems that many of us have. No team can come out focused as a unit every night, it takes the same determination from everybody. The more realistic expectation would be that this team doesn't fall into extended funks, going multiple games in a row lacking team focus. I think thus far the Bulls have shown that when they have an off night they can respond. 100% focus will come playoff time.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Haven't had a chance to watch the game yet (hate early games, 3am for me). But what an important win while we're down with injuries, with Boston and the Heat both battling injury problems if we can make up some ground then the important 1/2 seeds are still in reach. With the way this team has played at the UC you'd think home court in the second round would give them an excellent chance at the conference finals.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    It was a great all around effort win by the Bulls, who seemed to want this win more than the Grizzlies. If you looked at this game on paper and the intangibles, it screamed Grizzlies in a blowout. The Bulls had just played a hard fought game against the Heat on Saturday and were down to the 2nd stringers in their front-court.

    But alas, this may very well be why the Grizzlies are an under .500 team in the West and why it might be time to shakeup their roster. The team has all the pieces to compete, but they just don't have the players who have the heart and determination to do the little things to be a winning ball club. Their interior defense was terrible in this game as Rose, Deng, and even Korver on one play diced them up with drives inside.

    This game showed me more about the type of team the Grizzlies are more so than the Bulls. I already knew the Bulls were one of the hardest working teams in the league. The Grizzlies can talk all they want about wanting to win, but until they start making the plays that define winning basketball, they will continue to be another average team in the West. Talk is cheap and their lack of leadership is killing their team. Sorry, I'm a Bulls fan but when I see an NBA team with plenty of talent not living up to their potential it gets me hot.

    Also, Rose's defense the past two games has really stood out to me and is just another reason why he should be in the MVP discussion. His one-on-one defense against Wade on Saturday and Mayo today is something we wouldn't have seen in his first two years. When both of those players were heating up, Thibs showed enough confidence in his defense to put him on those players and slow them down. This would have been labeled a "bad-coaching" move his first two years, but not anymore.

    One last thing: I'm not saying Memphis needs to trade O.J. Mayo to our team, but he does need a change of scenary. I can kind of understand him not starting over Tony Allen, but Sam Young? Are you kidding me? I'll let that question marinate with you guys until my next post.

    Okay, I'm officially off my soap box for MLK Day. GO BULLS!

  • In reply to Bulls986:

    Memphis is pretty close to .500, has played a tough schedule, and beaten some pretty good teams. This was the toughest sub .500 team we've faced. They seemed confounded by the Bulls suffocating defense. That's what I love about this team and I hope more people can get into it, the Bulls play some excellent team defense, Van Gundy was pretty impressed all game. Teams aren't used to facing that kind of defensive efficiency, so many NBA teams are a joke defensively and playing the Bulls can be a shell shock for a team that gets used to the average NBA defensive opponent.

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    Oh and I agree Mayo needs a change, and I'd like for it to be us.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Now I've watched the game knowing Rose got a triple double, it's funny how meaningless a milestone it was. Rose played well but he has played plenty of better games this year.

    Korver's shot was night and day from what it has been, his misses were really clanking off the rim before, today even the misses were rattling around. Funny how Korver and Gibson both played bad with Boozer in the team and now with him out they both stepped up with increased responsibility.

    The front court defense given they were short handed was great, Asik had one of those good games with an awful box score. Speaking of Asik he needs two simple rules on offense: we can live with the screen being in the wrong place so just stay still, and if you're given the ball don't think about what to do just try to dunk.

    Deng was outstanding on both ends, Doug you mentioned a while back about the Bulls being an elite defensive team with no all-defense team members, but I wonder if Deng has a shot. Look at the guys who made it the past couple of years and only LeBron seems certain to return, KG and Smith have a shot, but Varejao, Battier, Artest and Wallace seem unlikely, so there's at least one spot open, probably for a small forward type. Counting against him is that Deng didn't even get a vote last year, but with the Bulls such a good defensive team this year surely the coaches have to recognise someone?

    And begrudgingly I have to mention Bogans, he outplayed Brewer for the first time in ages. He had a little stretch earlier in the year where he played decent though, so I'm going to wait and see if this little two game run lasts.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    The scoring part of a triple-dub is meaningless in itself. 10 point, really? That is impressive?

    The assists came today because Korver & Deng were hitting their shots, & Rose was being his usual self, getting penetration whenever he wants.

    The rebounds came b/c Rose is in beast mode, willing his team to victory however he can. He has had very impressive rebound numbers lately.

    Rose is so much more than statistics anyways, particularly shooting. He played great today. His mere presence & effort are enough to benefit his team. I actually thought he was atacking very well, and lets not forget team defense. The whole team played great D, and a lot of the credit has top go to your star player

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Now that was fun. This game clearly showed that in the regular season...... Good Defense and Good 3 point shooting is what makes the Good teams Good.

    I know it's trite, but it just sucks the life out your opponent.
    You could see it today.
    One and Done.

    Even though Memphis is under .500, they were at home and on a winning streak, until today.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Because of the Bears....the Bears are the only game in town right now. May as well shut down til the Bears are done for the season.

  • In reply to Perno:

    speak for yourself

  • In reply to Perno:

    Any legitimate Chicago sports fan has plenty of room for both. Its the half ass mamby pamby pretender fans that will be blinded by the Bears.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    I just bet my friend Dwight Howard finishes ahead of Amare in MVP voting. Who would everyone take?

  • In reply to Jmax:

    The Knicks wont win enough games for Amare to get serious MVP consideration. Howard for sure.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Howard and Rose will finish ahead of him if the season continues on its current track.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    With a month left. The bulls have to make a trade for a 2 guard if they want to fight for a spot in the edge or finals.

    Look if they don't want to trade alot then don't.. go after anthony parker or someone who's not much of an investment.. jj & 2nd if your trading for a solid player..

    Im still praying we go after arron afflalo.. if memo goes to nj in that rumored deal(unlikely) the nuggets get no one to replace memo and squire morrow.. I think the bulls want someone who's defensive and rather prefer afflalo over morrow.. morrow,1st,2nd and cash for afflalo or morrow. Then we could just stop dealing with any rumors and play ball for the next 4 yrs without true needs..

  • In reply to Yunqn:

    Afflalo would be the perfect role player at SG for what we need, he's also on a cheap rookie contract this year so I believe we still have the space to just absorb his contract. I'd probably go as high as the Bulls pick this year + Bobcats pick to get him if we're willing to match on what he gets offered as a RFA (ie probably the MLE). Of course I'm much less high on the potential of the Bobcats pick of late, if you're still of the mind it'll be the #1 pick in 2016 or whatever you don't do it.

    That said it takes two to make a trade, so maybe the Nuggets want to keep him (seems silly for a rebuilding team to keep a role player, but it happens) or think they can get a better offer.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Thats brings up a big question. If Afflalo becomes available, what other teams will be interested? I guarantee you we wouldn't be the only ones after him.

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    Most of the other top teams aren't really in need of a SG, so looking at it closer I'm not sure the bidding would be that bad. It's not like a guy like Mayo where people would be getting the guy in the hopes he could be a star.

    The three teams that I could possibly see being interested are Dallas, Utah & New Orleans. Dallas mostly because they always seem to be interested in everyone. Utah and New Orleans could both do with a SG, but whether they want to pay a guy the MLE long term or they'd treat him as a cheap rental this year I don't know.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    ^ sorry im on my phone.. spell check*

  • In reply to Jmax:

    Wow!! Barkley just proclaimed "loudly" that DRose is the best PG in the NBA and said sorry to Deron Williams about pushing him down to #2.

    If the Bulls win 75% of their games until Noah gets back...then DRose will definitely be top 3 in MVP consideration...

  • In reply to Jmax:

    Charles Barkley just said that DRose is the best PG in the League.
    Better than Deron Williams.
    And includes the Bulls as an elite team.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    Yes the Bulls have enough talent to beat those teams, but when they're playing awfully, it helps Noah is around to bring defense, extra points, hustle, leadership, and energy to the team.

  • In reply to deewaves:

    No one said we shouldn't beat teams like that without Noah. People did say however that not having Noah hurts our team tremendously, more so than without Boozer. The Bulls didn't lose a single game to a bad team when it was Boozer out instead of Noah. Noah is a role player by definition but not in the sense that people use the term around the NBA. Noah is the 2nd best passer, best defender, 4th best scorer(close to third), and emotional leader. Those are all roles but when you are playing that many important parts to the puzzle your absence hurts the team significantly. If this team had Boozer and Noah healthy together for even 75% of the season thus far its hard to argue we wouldn't be the number one seed.

  • Its scary Mitch! Scary to think where they'll be, how far along when the playoffs start! What a great time to be a Chicago sports fan.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    I'm particularly impressed with the attitude of this team, the unselfishness, the desire to be great & the willingness to work to get there

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    It's the half way mark and even with injuries and some pretty bad shooting slumps from Gibson/Korver/Watson the team is on pace for 56 wins. If we can get everyone playing well and be healthy come playoff time the team can beat anyone.

    If we can replace Bogans without losing any rotation players (Afflalo for picks if a Melo trade goes down seems the most realistic hope to me) then I really like our chances. I mean even by the most pessimistic measure, replace only the shots Bogans has taken with a player shooting at Afflalo's rate this year and you increase the teams scoring by a point a game. And that's without considering the spacing he'd provide or the extra shots he's be able take because he doesn't just shoot wide open threes and fast break layups.

    Get a SG who does in reality what Bogans does in theory and this team is a legit contender. I don't know if it's enough to beat the Heat at full strength, but if this team has Afflalo starting come playoff time, I'd pick us as favourites over any other team in the league, and as good a chance as anyone against the Heat.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    The thing that makes Afflalo such a good fit is that he's the type of player that will come in recognizing that this is DRose and Noah's team. He should assimilate more readily since he won't feel the need to assert his style, but will fit in with theirs. As opposed to a Jackson, Hamilton or JR Smith.

  • He's really impressed me lately overall but notably on the defensive end. Dan Patrick was talking about Rose today on his show, he noted how much he likes players like Kobe, Jordan, Rose who are students of the game. Always aware of their shortcomings and willing to do the work to better their game as their career progresses.

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