Derrick Rose named all-star starter

Derrick Rose on being named an all-star:

"I'm
feeling really loved right now and I appreciate all the support that
helped me earn a starting position in the All-Star game.  I want to thank all the fans that voted, especially the people from my hometown of Chicago.  I
also want to give thanks to the Bulls organization that did a great job
promoting me, and most of all I want to thank my teammates and coaches
for putting me in this position." 

Derrick Rose ended up obliterating Rajon Rondo in the vote.  Rondo may have read after the early returns, but Rose ended up winning by over 300,000 votes.   He came just 120,000 shy of Dwyane Wade, the leading guard from the Eastern conference.

Rose was came in with the fifth highest vote total overall, trailing Kobe, LeBron, Wade, and Howard.   Historically, the fans have occasionally had some crazy voting, but this year they definitely got it right in the East (Rose, Wade, LeBron, Amare, Dwight) though China managed to vote Yao Ming as a starter onto the team again in the West.

That said, while the vote doesn't mean much, it does show how much Rose's reputation has grown.   With enhanced reputation, there's a subconscious desire to give him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to fouls. 

We have seen Derrick's free throw attempts rise some over recent weeks, is his reputation part of that or has his game changed?   Maybe a bit of both.   Rose has started to force contact more, but he also seems to be getting a bit more benefit of the doubt on the close ones too.

Congratulations to Derrick, he obviously deserves it, and he gives Bulls fans some real incentive to watch the game.

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  • Good for Rose, and I prefer to interpret people voting for Yao as voting for Gasol to be the starting center, with voting for Yao the only way the ballot allowed that to be achieved (OK, fans are probably not that smart, but I can dream).

  • TOO GOOD, TOO FAST, TOO STRONG : THIS IS DERRICK ROSE !!! MVP !!

  • No post on how D-Rose managed to not eat for several days and has a stomach ulcer and only decided to tell the staff before it came to the point he thought he was having a heart attack?

  • In reply to Sluggers:

    He's a grown man, not a child. I doubt fully grown NBA players report their diet, or their bowel movements for that matter, to the team trainer.

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    And, yet in this case he did.

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    Congrats indeed. Rose 5th overall being only James, Wade, Howard, & Bryant

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    behind I mean, don't know where I got being

    Who wears #1 for the Eat, Rose or Amare?

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    They should do it like they used to where everyone wears their own uniform and they could both be #1.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    yeah they probably will, its all about selling jerseys I guess.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Kind of off topic, but LeBron and Wade obviously let their all star selections go to their heads against the Knicks ... never seen two guys refuse to share the ball like they did in the 4th, just ISO after ISO resulting in missed shots. Erik Spoelstra is powerless against these guys egos to make them play proper basketball.

    I kind of flip flop on the Heat, when they're rolling LeBron/Wade/Bosh seems too much talent to not win games but then they come out and play like me first guys and you have to wonder whether the Heat can win 4 best of 7s in a row without a meltdown.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Good Point.
    Madison Square Garden, star studded crowd, national TV, Knick's defense and the Heat played like the Summer League.
    Gallinari really played well...Who needs Melo? Knicks need a center.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    To be fair, I think LeBron's ankle was hurting him a little bit(they were showing him iced up even during timeouts)and Wade shot well but we have seen that before.
    But you are right though...they were playing lot of ISO ball. The key I feel to beat the Heat is if two of the three can be stopped one on one, then you can double the other guy.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    I know they're missing Bosh and LeBron got a bit banged up again, I doubt the Knicks can beat them no matter how selfishly they play if the Heat are at full strength. But it was almost like LeBron saw Wade playing well and wanted to prove a point the he was the best, then that triggered Wade to realise if he gave the ball up he wasn't getting it back so he started playing the same way ...

    I mean all the public talk was about how great it was to play with their friends and have great players around them but they sure don't play like they're happy to be on the same team at times. Sometimes there's a bit of that Kobe vs Shaq edge to it where they want to win but only if they're the best player while doing so.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    We will see. If the Heat end up with #3 seed, it likely will be them & New York in the first round of the playoffs.
    Upset anyone?

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    As much as I don't like NY's style of play. They will have a decent chance of upsetting whoever they play in the first round. Not because they are that good, but because they have the ability to get that hot. ie our first game against them this season.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    I kind of got the same feeling last night.. An underlying need to be the man at the cost of winning.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    To be fair he was playing like a selfish jerk. At one point he was 4/20, yet still kept forcing it while going iso. At least go pick n' roll and make it a 2 man game.

    Side note: Its such crap the way he gets away with that lowering of the shoulder, plow through the defender. He gets the blocking call almost every time.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    +100

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Best way to stop the Heat may not to have the tougher front court or penetrating PG, it may just be to start some random Twitter rumors about the team (D-Wade and LeBron's mom, anyone??) and let nature run its course.

    The Miami Heat are the NBA version of Cobra Kai. Tons of skill, but lacking heart & discipline.

    Pat Riley = Billy Zabka, of course!

  • In reply to saigman:

    Sweep the leg, Lebron.

  • In reply to adamlweber:

    Or Asik (in Bosh's case)

  • In reply to bcz1980:

    Really, after the recent 'incident', if the Bulls play the Heat in the playoffs, isn't that the first thing you have happen: Asik diving for a ball near Bosh?

    Between that and the crowds at the UC chanting 'Who's your daddy' while holding up Delonte West masks, I'd say the Heat would be done in 6 games.

  • In reply to saigman:

    One thing I saw yesterday for some time was how physical Boston and Portland were against each other in the 1st half. I didn't see the second half. I am sure Boston is waiting to be on Bosh during playoffs...I hope Asik, Thomas and Boozer can do the same and take him out of his game.

  • In reply to adamlweber:

    So Far....this is my Mid Season Awards!

    MVP- Derrick Rose
    Rookie of the Year- Blake Griffin
    Coach of the Year- Thibs,Pop, and Monty
    6th Man of the Year- George Hill or Big Baby Glen Davis
    Most Improved Player- Kevin Love...hes putting up monster #'s
    Exec. Of The Year- No Brainer Pat Riles

  • In reply to Csharp:

    If you watched Charles Barkley yesterday, he picked Kurt Thomas as an all-star...lol
    Barkley is in some serious love with the Bulls..

  • In reply to Csharp:

    Exec. Of The Year-Dwayne Wade

  • In reply to saigman:

    "You're the best... around..." !

  • In reply to bcz1980:

    That's what LeBron's Mom said about Delonte West

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Derrick is/was until recently having an MVP type season so of course he should be the starter at his position for the all-star game. Hell, he almost got more votes then Wade.

    It's too bad about his ulcers. Hope they heel up quickly/quit giving him so much pain/discomfort. And regardless of what the Bulls do with these Jordan Rules/extended doubles I still think Derrick will somehow manage to get back on track. Though it may take a while. Eventually the coaches will have to find a way to help him exploit the double teaming and use it to his/the Bulls advantage. I've seen enough 30% shooting nights out of D-Rose and the Bulls recently. Enough is enough Thibs and Co. do your jobs offensively, and make some flippin' adjustments. Though as I admitted overall looking at the team stats until recently they have been contender worthy, and up until recently you'd have to consider Thibs coach of the year worthy.

    As for JJ, I keep going back to his (post)draft day press conference with Taj Gibson. Sam Smith asked them(in jest) if they ever heard of a certain No.23 that also played for Chicago.

    James Johnson muttering, "Old dude's crazy." That's what he said before a stunned Bulls media core. He may be a nice guy, but his maturity level/I.Q. maybe in life as well in the game of basketball seems unquestionably sub par. That's not to say he's not a smart person overall, but unwise in his approach to things including the game of basketball. I hope in the D-League he shoots the mid range J, plays good fundamnetal defense, and then earns his right to take someone off the dribble or in the post. But he's got to improve his handle no question as he exposes the ball.

    And when you look at Aaron Brooks, Matt Barnes, C.J. etc. while oddswise yes most relegated there(D-league) are busts, I wouldn't say J.J. didn't show us enough(unlike a lot of these other duds) to think he might be able to develop some obvious talents, and find a place in the league.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    "old dude's crazy"? Wow I didn't know he said that, unbelievable. James Johnson could probably use a behavioral therapist to help him gain self awareness.

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    It was surreal. I have never uploaded anything to youtube nor do I know how, but I wish someone would have put that press conference on there. Taj is just freaking out laughing incredulously, but also completely embarassed.

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    Ya i saw that but hes terrible nowadays lol I remember back when he was with the Kings...he was killing it! And throwing all those nice passes! He was one of my favorite players!

    Anybody see that OJ Mayo got caught taking some drug (DHEA i think it was) which is a viagra type drug i believe lol Bulls can probably pry him away from the Grizz for cheap possibly now.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Its why they won't win, chemistry & toughness matter

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Not only do they matter, they are absolutely essential to a championship.

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    Exactly.

    Agree 100%

    Hate to reference Isiah Thomas, but he notes that the "secret" to basketball, is that its not about basketball. Its about chemistry, sacrificing for your teammates and the team, playing well as a team...

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    BULLS NOW 2ND PLACE IN THE EAST

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    let'S hope they don't loose tomorow against magic most of all if Rose doesn't play.

  • Most people seem to have Bosh but if Doc Rivers is the coach for EC, he might give a shot to Boozer because of his relationship with Thibs..

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    All the coaches vote on it, not just the coach of the team, so Doc being the coach of the East wont matter.

    Pretty sure Pierce, Garnett and Bosh will be the backup forwards.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    I voted for Rose way more times than I've voted for President.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Jan 13 Jan 27 Increase
    DRose 1,225,575 1,914,996 689,421
    Kobe 1,757,226 2,380,016 622,790
    Howard 1,537,619 2,099,204 561,585
    Wade 1,499,768 2,048,175 548,407
    LeBron 1,518,807 2,053,011 534,204
    Durant 1,270,729 1,736,728 465,999

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    In terms of Derrick's improved FTA I think the votes help subconsciously but the biggest difference took place Jan 8th when we beat the Celtics, this is from the ESPN recap

    The All-Star point guard credited a little film study for his abundance of free throws. Rose said he noticed recently he needed to take another dribble on his drives so he could get deeper into the lane and draw more fouls.

    "Usually I just try to take off and avoid the contact or take off, and they block my shot or something," he said. "Just making sure I take my time in the hole and go up to their body first."

    Its funny because Hollinger cited a lack of FTA was Derrick's biggest obstacle in terms becoming an elite player...Well not any more i guess.

  • You just summarized 50% of the altercations I've had since getting married.

  • In reply to Davidmon5:

    I had a stomach ulcer and the pain is terrible but you think it's just real bad heartburn and you'll get over it. Until one day the pain is so bad you think you're about to die. I had to bail out of work and drive to the hospital I thought I was dying. Turns out just a stupid ulcer and they gave me pills, within about 1-2 weeks I was completely back to normal.

  • In reply to Davidmon5:

    I'm so proud of DRose and being a Bulls fan!

    If Boozer and Noah weren't hurt this year we probably would have 3 of our guys playing on the All-Star team this year! :-)

  • In reply to Davidmon5:

    I'm so proud of DRose and being a Bulls fan!

    If Boozer and Noah weren't hurt this year we probably would have 3 of our guys playing on the All-Star team this year! :-)

  • In reply to Davidmon5:

    I thought this was unique to my wife, glad to hear

  • In reply to Davidmon5:

    I thought this was unique to my wife, glad to hear

  • Well it's really no surprise a team with 3 players can't win without 1 of them. I think they knew that before the season started.

    What would worry me more is Spoelstra's refusing to step and force them to run plays "Because we can do miraculous things offensively with our talent and skill level."

    And Wade saying this would scare the hell out of me:

    "We're not the Boston Celtics. We're not these kinds of teams that need to play together. We have guys that have the individual talent, and sometimes the individual talent, one-on-one ability is going to take over. Boston has more of guys that have great individual talent, but they feed off each other. We're a new team and we're still figuring it out."

    Thinks they don't need to play together because they have individual talent ... just about sums up how they lost the game today.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    lol, Wade is really not the brightest of all. As long as he and his friends have this theory of winning, hang on, it's going to be a fun ride for the rest of the league. And of course every other team wants to beat them and give their A-game. So much for the 72 games record being in danger.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    ..it's official...congratulations to d.rose..too bad noah can't join him in the east all star team..he for sure is an all star..hopefully boozer will be joining rose..GO BULLS!!!

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Them going 1-5 without the B3 doesn't surprise me. But its not meaningless, they should be able to do better than that. The talent level around them isn't THAT bad.

  • Is it me or do is ESPN really biased towards East Coast teams like NY/Boston or sometimes West Coast. It looks like a lot of these employees are from there and have grown up as fans of these teams and can't let go of their bias even though they try to be objective sometimes. Or that generation of reporters/employees hate the Bulls because of all the MJ/Bulls winning championships. I don't think there is one major guy from Chicago area on the NBA beat on ESPN main office.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    I think you are partially right but the guy on PTI is a bulls fan

  • In reply to UtahBullsFan:

    Wilbon was in Chicago forever and loves the Bulls.

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    It's actually pretty funny because im pretty sure his costar Kornheiser hates everything Chicago

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    Kornheiser is an east coast liberal clown.

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    What does liberal have to do with it? This isn't a dittohead msg board Limbaugh and his lemmings should stay in Neverland.

    Last I checked Chicago was just as liberal (if not more so) than Boston or NY. Or do you reside in the suburbs?

  • In reply to adamlweber:

    Whoa chief. I wasn't referring to "liberal" as in democrat or republican. I'm talking about Korneiser's whole perspective on sports. The guy always takes a liberal stance on things like head injuries in football. The guy basically thinks the NFL should play with flags. He is liberal in his stance that more control and more rules is always the answer.

    As far as politics go, I'm not so ignorant that I polarize my views as an American to Democrat or Republican agendas. All I can tell you is that this state has been controlled by Liberals for quite some time, and our economy is the second worst in the country. You do the math.

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    liberal want more rules? really? Pretty sure they are called liberals for a reason...you know, liberty, freedom.

    You're thinking of conservatives wanting more restrictions

  • In reply to adamlweber:

    Ya Barkley is really loving the Bulls right now. He called Rose the Best PG in the game the other day.

  • In reply to adamlweber:

    ^ same with Webber an Kenny Smith

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    Mitchell Wiggins....Dude i commented on that guys article too! It WAS TERRIBLE! He had a TON of comments prooving him wrong. I really cant believe that he wrote that and that ESPN even let him put that on their site. Believe me I told him he was TERRIBLE plenty of times lol

    NEWAYS! CONGRATS to D Rose!!!! I voted probably everyday for the last 2 months! He really deserves and the guy is making it to stardom! Rookie of the Year, NBA All Star, NBA All Star Starter! I love it....he has really helped turn this thing around in Chicago!

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    pretty sure he's not a liberal

  • In reply to KingOfCrumbs:

    I loved him until he said if he was chosing a PG to build a franchise around between Rose and Rondo He'd choose Rondo

  • In reply to UtahBullsFan:

    Almost as bad as watching the Cavs ex coach on ESPN the other day and they asked who he would build his team aroung in terms of a PG and said that is such a hard question because there are so many. He then proceeded to rattle off Westbrook, Williams, Paul, Rondo, Nash...

    But NEVER mentioned Rose. It was obviously a mental lapse Im sure, but really amazing you cant remember Rose.

  • In reply to bcz1980:

    I was watching that too and I was like c'mon he is atleast a top 5 young guard. I think he did it deliberately as he said he will build around Westbrook and he was coaching in the Central Division.

  • In reply to UtahBullsFan:

    In case you guys haven't heard J-Will most likely going to the Grizz

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Eastern
    Seaboard
    Programming
    Network

    If they could give you Yankees vs. Red Sox, Heat vs. Knicks and Giants vs. Eagles 24/7/365.25, they would.

  • Abbot is a disgrace.

  • Anyone know where I can read Hollinger/ESPN insider articles without paying the lame fee?

  • In reply to adamlweber:

    Put a key logger on a friend's PC that has access???

  • In reply to adamlweber:

    I'll sell you my username for half price...lol jk.

  • They were probably required to vote for Yao two times each, kind of like they are only allowed to have kids two times... f'in communists

  • amen Wiggins, I've probably got an ulcer right now. The stress comes with the territory when you're providing for a family.

  • There are extremists in every aspect of life who have a point and are correct on that point but they don't understand or look at the big picture. That's why they are extremists.
    But that said, because of a lack of editing and people being able to post opinions, it is gotten crazy. Look at MrHappy posting on this blog based on some ridiculous stats and then making absurd comments/conclusions based on that.

  • all of the sudden they are not so hot. They are not feasting on a steady diet of crap teams any more, and further, they are having some trouble dealing with adversity. God their egos are so fragile.

  • all of the sudden they are not so hot. They are not feasting on a steady diet of crap teams any more, and further, they are having some trouble dealing with adversity. God their egos are so fragile.

  • "Note how from 10-26 to 11-9, that 4 players on the Bulls, including Keith Bogans, produced more wins than Derrick Rose according to his formula."

    Only world in which that makes sense has Charlton Heston running around screaming "Get your paws off me, you d@mned dirty statistician".

    In the next article from Dave Berri, he uses solid numbers to argue that Pate de Poop and S_it on a Shingle should replace Foie Gras and Filet Mignon on luxury dining menus nationwide.

    What a twit.

  • "NBA referees, don't get me started on the worst officiating system in organized sports."

    I'm still on the fence as to whether or not Olympic judges are worse overall. I could probably be argued into taking one or the other for the title.

    However, in terms of major US sports, there is no question.

    I think professional wrestling refs probably have more credibility at this point!

  • In reply to saigman:

    Much like "pro wrestling" referees, the NBA has had the result of games/matches predetermined in the past. See Tim Donaghy.

  • MW. Wow, absolutely unbelievable piece(of you know what). Bogans not only comes out with more wins produced over the time period you mentioned, HE COMES OUT WITH OVER DOUBLE ROSE'S WINS PRODUCED!

    Like you, I find the "new movement" of statistical analysis to be worth noting and somewhat useful as an evaluational tool. But making absolute conclusions about something as dynamic and complicated as a basketball player's worth to his team's success is pure insanity. I've never been a huge fan of Hollinger, although I do appreciate his contribution of the PER statistic, but reading this actually makes Hollinger seem rational in comparison. This article, and others like it, really hurt Hollinger's saber metric cause. I mean the guy says flat out "Fields is a better guard than Rose". Is he really so in love with his statistical tool that he is comfortable making such finite statements?

    Some other absurd statements he makes:

    "The only real issue is that the three guards in front of him currently; Wade, Rondo and Fields are much better guards."

    -So either this hack is telling us that if a player precedes another in this rating system then he is by qualification a better player period, or the author slipped up and gave his own opinion that Fields, Wade, and Rondo are better guards than Rose. And isn't 'opinion' the very thing this guy is trying to crucify?

    "Rose has only enjoyed one span of time as the

  • That was a great analogy. Also consider that economists are often forced to speculate rather than make absolute predictions/conclusions. Basketball and sports in general, like the economy are just too dynamic to fit a standard formula.

    But you're right, time to switch to decaf!

  • Berri is an economist, although judging by how dogmatic he is about his wages of wins system, probably not a very good one.

  • My favourite part of the Wages of Wins system is he adjusts for position due to not all positions being as box score productive in his system, yet a guy like Landry Fields doesn't get his rebounding adjusted downwards due to playing the SG position, when guard rebounding has been shown to have a very low correlation to team rebounding. Nor does he consider the possibility that there may be a usage vs efficiency trade off. I agree that that's not a settled issue, but the closest you can even get him to acknowledging there's a debate is occasional mentions that scoring does show some diminishing returns.

    My favourite part though is because he basically takes what makes a TEAM successful in box score stats and applies it to PLAYERS he then goes and adds up players "wins" and declares "look my system is perfect at describing how players contribute to team wins". Colour me unimpressed he's shown that cutting something up and sticking it back together again produces what you started with.

    I also find it hilarious how Berri is clutching onto Landry Fields, because without him he'd be wildly exposed by his theory that NY would be much worse with Stoudemire than Lee. Fields is his convenient cop out really. And note that funnily enough his playoffs for Golden State prediction seems to have been quietly forgotten just like Lee has.

    Berri's system is just an example of what happens when you start with a sound premise (volume scoring is over rated in the NBA) and ride it until you've taken it well past its logical conclusion.

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