Derrick Rose expected to play [per Rose/Thibodeau]

From Nick Friedell:

"He had some soreness, but he appears to be fine," Thibodeau said on Tuesday. "If he says he can play, he'll play."

"He has a lot of toughness, both mental and physical," Thibodeau said.
"He doesn't like to take any plays off. He doesn't like to take any days
off. He attacks the basket, he gets knocked down, he gets back up.
He'll keep going. He doesn't shy away."

"If it's up to me, I'm playing [on Wednesday]," said Rose, who wore a
black brace on his right arm at practice on Tuesday. "Knowing that it's
only sore, and usually I can play through soreness.

wrist] is not that bad. The wrist really is not that bad. If anything,
my elbow hurts more than my wrist. Right now I'm a little beat up, but I
think I should be able to play through it."


Of course if he's healthy then he should play, but no need to push the boundaries in a game against the Raptors.   The Bulls have an excellent shot at winning whether Rose plays or not, and they have Thursday and Friday off which would afford him an extended rest if he were to sit out this game.

I have a feeling that Rose is still too young to consider sitting out in all except the most extreme cases though, so he'll campaign to play.


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  • No need to hold him out if he says he can go, and if the medical staff says the MRIs & Xrays are negative. Jordan understood he had a responsibility. There were kids coming to see him, & if something wasn't broken, he would make sure he was playing. Rose is tough & I think he already understands that responsibility, as I'm sure a lot of Toronto & NBA fans bought tickets to that game under the impression that Rose would be on the court.

    Let him play, he knows his own body.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Rose seems to be more fragile than Jordan was. Except for that broken foot thing, Jordan was nearly indestructible, I definately don't get that sense from Rose, I am scared to death everytime that I seem him hit the floor.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    I agree, but Rose still has never tore anything, nor broken anything. All minor injuries, and could probably play through half of them if the Bulls let him. My point though was, there are fans paying good money to go see the Bulls, families taking their children out & paying good money, and they would be let down if he doesn't go. If he's injured, by all means, but if he is sore, let him play. I think beyond just the toughness, he also understands the responsibility.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Even though MJ is 2 or 3 inches taller than Rose, he weighed about the same or a maybe even little less during his first few years. I don't know if he was any less fragile, but MJ was a master at minimizing or completely avoiding contact back then. As he got older and put on weight he sought out and absorbed contact more often. But when he was younger, he just had a knack for avoiding big hits. I hope Rose can develop this ability.

  • In reply to magestew:

    right, but people can't have it both ways, either he avoids contact & never gets to the line, or he seeks it out, does, but risks injury more

  • I am worried that soreness could hurt his new found 3 point shot! And if it hurts it enough it could take he confidence away from that shot even after the soreness is gone

  • In reply to UtahBullsFan:

    he didn't look great shooting after he returned last night, so that would be a concern, but I think the confidence would return fairly quickly.

    Also, even if he could only go half speed, its better to have him out there availiable at the end to shoot clutch free throws instead of Lucas, should the opportunity present itself again :)

  • In reply to UtahBullsFan:

    Derrick Rose should sit this one out
    Derrick Rose is one tough mofo
    CJ Watson should fill in fine

  • In reply to jpbaker81:

    You for got to tell us we are all CLUELESS FOLLOWERS

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    CAPS LOCK gets me kind of EXCITED.

  • In reply to MrHappysBoyfriend:


  • In reply to MrHappysBoyfriend:

    Haaaa...this all made me laugh at 8:30am. Thanks.

  • In reply to jpbaker81:

    The problem is with CJ filling in that means Lucas has to play solid minutes.

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    No he doesnt. CJ could just as easily take the 35 minutes Rose normally plays and we could make sure that Lucas plays no more than 8-10 minutes. We could even eliminate those minutes entirely with a larger line up that includes Brewer JJ Deng... and there would be enough ball handling from that squad to dispell 2 minutes per quarter.

  • In reply to bcz1980:

    that's what a coach who wouldn't play Keith Bogans would do. Thibs would play Lucas, & probably at the end again if we needed free throws

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    I think Thibs is being reckless here. Rose should not have been in the game when the fall occurred and he DEFINITELY should not have continued after that. Thibs says "Rose wanted to play," but the coach has to make that decision since it's obvious that in the emotion of the moment Rose would "want" to play even if his hand fell off.

    Sam Smith is on the money:

    "So I would declare Rose out for the 9-15 Toronto and probably the 5-20 Clippers. Get Rose a week off and ready for the next big stretch of games, four in six nights around Christmas. Let

  • In reply to adamlweber:

    come on, the game was not decided by then, that fall can happen anytime

  • Eh, if it's just soreness, he'll be fine. And if there's one thing Rose hasn't had a problem with, it's confidence. Glad he's OK, and I look forward to (hopefully) seeing the Bulls run their win streak to 7 tomorrow against the Raptors.

  • exactly, let him play, jump up fast, don't let off the gas pedal, then he can rest most of the 2nd half.

  • The ABA had more FTA per FGA than the NBA at the time. I think Rose belongs in the 70s NBA if anything.

  • the officiating has been an absolute joke, between the Noah, Rose, & Taj touch fouls on the defensive end, & the no calls for Rose on offense, it is becomming incredibly frustrating.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

  • I'd support a return to the style of the ABA, but Noah would have to let his hair out into an afro.

  • The NBA is in desperate need of more funk.


    Have you heard about this pending trade of SG Terrance Williams to Houston? Williams has physical talent, maybe he will get himself together under Rick Adleman in Houston.

    This is the type of deal I could see Bulls making soon. Bulls have to do some development work with the player to add a SG unless they want to give up major assets.

    Players like O.J. Mayo would likely require Taj, the Charlotte pick, and more... I don't think Bulls want to give up that much.

    Houston acquiring Terrence Williams makes me wonder if Courtney Lee might be available?

  • In reply to Edward:

    Also there are rumors of the Bulls talking with Denver about J.R. Smith, not sure about that move although he can put up some serious points when he has his head on straight and he's the type of guard the Bulls need but he has some attitude issues.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    I find it hard to believe any JR Smith talk given the Bulls previously threw him away for a couple of second rounders withuot even giving him a game due to him being a head case. And that was before he killed a man.

  • In reply to Edward:

    I doubt it, I expect they're hoping if he works out that he'd be their cheap replacement for Battier at SF.

  • In reply to Edward:

    On this topic, speculation is the nets are stockpiling picks to try to send them out in a Melo trade:

    I wonder whether "Melo will only sign an extension in New York" includes the Brooklyn New Yorkers?

  • Thibs would look good walking the sidelines in a purple suit with leopard skin lapels.

  • I've liked Courtney Lee since he played in the Finals his rookie season with Orlando. I believe he may have started??

  • In reply to Edward:

    He took the starting spot from ... wait for it ... Keith Bogans.

  • I think NJ are crazy to take that risk, I think they have to convince Melo that they're a New York team and he should sign an extension with them. From NY's point of view I don't think they should do anything but lowball Denver since all signs point to Melo coming along for free in the off season. If they can get him dead cheap to reduce the risk of the CBA then sure, but they shouldn't be giving up anything worthwhile.


    New Jersey is trying hard to trade for him, but he is blocking trying to block it.

    As I said months ago, it should come down to Chicago and NY.

    December 15th is tomorrow...just saying!!!

  • Actually, it could be Chicago and Denver. That's just a hunch.


    He's going off on the Lakers again.

    At the half...

    17 points on 7/13 FG shooting.

  • In reply to MrHappy:


    The Lakers went off on him again.

    At the buzzer ...

    Nick Young: 21 points on 21 FGA
    Lakers SGs: 40 points on 26 FGA

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    ended up with 21 points on 21 shots, 0/4 from 3, 1 rebound, 2 assts, 2 stls, & 2 TOs

  • In reply to ChiRy:


  • I thought it was New York because his wife wanted New York, and screw the rest of it. I mean if he wants to win then demanding to go to Orlando makes a lot more sense.

    As far as NY's offer, if you believe what Sheridan is saying (and I don't think he has inside info, he's just speculating) then NY's best offer is Curry/Fields/Gallinari and a first (theirs, taken back by trading Randolph). That IMO is a horrible trade for NY, you're left with Felton/Douglas/Melo/Chandler/Amare, and a bench of Turiaf and Azubuike. Horrible defensive team, no cap space, no picks to improve. NY's only chance of becoming elite is to risk signing Melo for free so they can move some of their pieces for a defensive center.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    "NY's only chance of becoming elite is to risk signing Melo for free..."
    Excellent point and I completely agree, Shakes.

    I feel Bulls have a bit of the same dilemma as well. Bulls are getting close yet can't afford to give up assets to fill their holes and become elite.

    Its like the Garnett trade to Celtics and Gasol trade to Lakers. One-sided deals where Celtics and Lakers got way more than they gave up. It's a power shift and an elite team is created. Without Gasol, Kobe doesn't win another ring. If Knicks can sign Melo as a FA for nothing they become one of the better teams.

    To become elite Bulls need to somehow make a great trade or signing without giving up too much. We just have to wait patiently...

  • The other thing to note that Nick Young is putting up a point/assist ratio normally the sole domain of Eddy Curry. Dude is a complete black hole.

  • The problem with the trade is it gives up talent and uses up their cap space.

    If they don't make the trade even if they miss out on Melo they can just look to sign other guys with their space, maybe someone like Tyson Chandler to really help them out defensively. Right now the Knicks are already doing great offensively with Amare as their first option so it makes little sense to give up much for another first option type guy.

  • The only thing that scares me about the Knicks getting Melo is the possibility that one of Howard/Paul/Williams decides they want a Miami Heat type scenario and they're going to force their way there. NY will have the expirings to make it happen at the 2012 deadline.

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