Watson's good, but Carmelo hits a walk off to win it for the Nuggets

I said in the pre-game thread that this was the type of game C.J. Could step up and play well in.  When he is called on to score, will get big minutes, and can dominate the ball, he's a different player. 

He came through and proved it tonight, but it wasn't enough.  The Bulls lost this game on the decision to put John Lucas in the game on the final offensive possession.  Then when Kyle Korver had the ball with 14 seconds left, he elected to pass to Lucas rather than accept the foul..

The Bulls were fortunate to get bailed out when it looked like Lucas turned the ball over, but Lucas misses both free throws anyway.   On the Nuggets final possession, the Bulls play good defense but fail to get the rebound which rolls out of bounds off them, and then they fail to double team Carmelo who fakes a drive and gets a wide open 20 footer for the win.

It was a great effort, but mental mistakes at the end of the game cost the Bulls on both ends.

Watson topped my 30 point upside scenario and hit the Bulls last three field goals.
   C.J. Watson knocked down some threes to help the Bulls back into the game, got to the line (largely off of perimeter fouls that were terrible plays by Denver), and then carried the Bulls down the stretch.   It was really a phenomenal day for Watson who hit 11-22 shots.

Joakim Noah had another big night. 
He had 17 points and 16 boards, but more importantly he played excellent help defense down the stretch to help limit the Nuggets chances and control Melo in the paint.  If it weren't for the bailout call Melo got (which didn't look like a foul), then the Bulls would have won the game.  Noah had big rebounds in traffic all night and did a nice job knocking down all seven of his free throws.

Luol Deng shook off a terrible start to have a nice game.  If memory serves me correctly, he was 2-8 in the first half.  However, he had an excellent second half, and played solid defensively on Melo throughout the second half as well.  He hit the glass hard, knocked down his foul shots, and did a nice job redeeming himself.

Taj Gibson barely played and struggled when he did.
  Presumably the foot was an issue, but Taj didn't play well while on the court, and didn't play very much, especially given that the Bulls were already short handed.

Keith Bogans chews up minutes to little effect.
  You don't see him making any huge mistakes, but you don't see him doing much positive out there.   For an end of rotation role player, that's okay, and even though Bogans is starting, he's playing minutes like the 8th man.

Kyle Korver shot us out of this game and made a critically bad decision to pass the ball at the end.
He did hit the big three to give the Bulls the lead in the fourth, but he also shot just 2-12 on the night, largely with good looks.   At the end of the game, he should have let the Nuggets foul him the first time he got the ball, and after passing it off, he darn well shouldn't have passed it off again when he got it back.   Kyle, you will knock down both free throws, make them foul you.

Ronnie Brewer was largely invisible tonight.  About the only thing I remember him doing was getting called for an iffy goal tend.

Omer Asik was somehow a +20 tonight despite playing pretty dicey.  Omer was really good in the first half, where he had multiple blocks and played strong defense, but in the second half he seemed to have a hard time with the three second rule and after getting buzzed for it once, he kept dancing in and out of the paint and got too concerned with it, and gave up some plays.   He also failed to convert on any of his shot attempts at the basket.

James Johnson had a great first half, but was sloppy in the second half.
  After playing with a lot of energy and helping the Bulls early, in the second half he just straight threw the ball away on two possessions early in the third quarter and ended up riding the pine afterwards.  The positives are there, but he needs to minimize the mistakes.

John Lucas is the goat of the night.
  I'm not going to rag too much on a guy who was just signed in off the street, but you have to wonder about the philosophy of putting him in the game during a critical stretch.  He almost turned the ball over and wasn't even close on the free throws.  I think I'd have gone with Bogans in that situation.   Still, the blame really falls on Korver for passing him the ball rather than just taking the foul.

Though I hated his call of Lucas at the end, Thibodeau coached pretty well.  He called his timeouts at just the right points to stop the runs and get the Bulls back in the game, and he had the team playing well out of the timeouts.  He did a nice job managing the rotation given the limited players at our disposal, and the Bulls almost pulled off a big upset.   I hated the Lucas thing (have you picked up on that?), but overall it was a well coached game, and I don't want that to get lost in the hate over putting Lucas out there in a critical situation.

Final thoughts:
Most of the stuff I'd put in the final thoughts I threw into the intro, but one other interesting note is that there were clearly .2 seconds on the clock after the shot passed through.  Are you at all annoyed the Bulls didn't get a final play?   .2 is only time for a tip, so they almost certainly would have lost anyway (2-3% chance of winning in that scenario), but given that they replay everything at the end, I was surprised the Bulls didn't get a shot.

The game definitely lacked buzz without Derrick Rose in it, but the team played tough and clearly wanted it more than Denver as they outhustled Denver all night long.   I liked the effort if not the result.

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  • Heck, the Bulls don't need Melo.

    He sucks, right?

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Wow, that was hard to predict, even Mappy Pelosi could have gotten this one right.

  • NOTE:

    To the CLUELESS,

    The Bulls have VOIDS. They don't have a true CLOSER. Rose is NOT a CLOSER, but Melo is.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    If you don't think Rose is a closer, you must have thought that tonight was the season opener.

  • In reply to Houston:

    Houston,

    How many GW's has DRose hit, when he doesn't have a STIFF NECK?

    Try NONE!!!

    He missed one in Phoenix the other night with the Bulls trailing 108-107. If you watch basketball, like I do, you would know who the CLOSERS are. Melo is a CLOSER. Rose is NOT!!!

    Get a CLUE.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I have a clue...maybe I can find you one. Have you watched Rose play at all this season? Have you watched him hit clutch free throws, take over 4th quarters? Go buy a television Fred Flinstone, the radio ain't working for you...

  • In reply to Houston:

    Seriously, he doesn't hit as many game winning shots because he puts the game away before it comes down to that.

  • In reply to msalivar:

    msalivar,

    Where's your proof of that?

    You don't have any, because it just doesn't exist.

  • In reply to Houston:

    Houston,

    I love Derrick Rose as a player and I'm happy he is on the Bulls. However, he's not a CLUTCH player. Melo is. That's been proven.

    Compare this game vs. the Bulls game in Boston. How did Melo do vs. Rose in a CLUTCH situation?

  • In reply to Houston:

    Honestly it felt like a game we should have been beaten fairly easily. I have no idea what the deal is with Nene, he's a beast but Denver really don't get him involved enough, he was killing us (just like last time) then they go away from him and can't hit a shot and we creep back in.

    Still you have to love the fight of this team, with Rose & Boozer out and Gibson limited that it even became a situation where we made them hit a shot to win is a good effort.

    No matter how good a free throw shooter Lucas is historically it's clear he choked from how far off the attempts were. Not really a smart decision to put in a guy who hasn't played in 3.5 years and only learnt that day he was on the team.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Damn I really hate you are a bull fan miss happy

  • In reply to jaymccray:

    two,

    Who cares? Not me. And it's MrHappy.

    Sorry if the TRUTH hurts. The CLUELESS just don't get it!!!

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I don't think that "miss" was a typo...

  • In reply to ironsam:

    iron,

    Avoid the CLUELESS at all costs.

    You might learn the game of basketball then.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Just curious, what do you think would be the likely outcome if everyone who regularly participates in this blog met at a neighborhood bar anywhere in Chicago and invited Mappy Pelosi as the guest of honor?

    mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    No it is not, it is Mappy Pelosi, lithium freak.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Yes, I am pissed about the clock. I'm more in shock about them reviewing the play and missing that than the whole Lucas and missed rebound ordeal.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Just in case you're not aware, it's not necessary to use CAPS to emphasize your points. This board allows you to put text in italics or bold. Not that you care about what others think, but it's been my experience that people tend to give you more credibility when you don't use CAPS frequently. Food for thought. And Go Bulls!

  • In reply to tekioko:

    New,

    I like CAPS, but thanks for the tip.

  • In reply to tekioko:

    Flash: At the 8:24 mark Luol Dung actually made a 4th quarter field goal but otherwise was invisable.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Melo was 2-7 with 6 points in the last 6 minutes. I wouldn't really call that a closer

  • In reply to Dpauley23:

    Dp,

    And you apparently don't know basketball.

    Who hit the game-winning shot? That makes 17 GW's for Melo.

    * 2 against the Bulls

    (He hit the game-winner at the UC last year.)

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    What did hitting a game winning shot do with closing out the game. If he was such a great closer then he would of had to hit that game winning shot

  • In reply to Dpauley23:

    Dp,

    Is that a rhetorical question?

    Melo won the game for his team, despite having the flu.

    Why is everyone on here so CLUELESS to that FACT?

    Melo is a DIFFERENCE-MAKER, which this Bulls' team lacks.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    He also traveled before he missed his second to last shot but it wasn't called. It was a blatant travel and refs ignored it. He's so amazing.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    MrTroll, who would you rather have, Big Shot Bob, or Rose?

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Thibs probably assumed Lucas can handle the ball and a new guard should knock atleast one FT rather than making a contested shot.

    I guess Taj being out of sync hurt the rebounding numbers which contributed in not getting rebounds/points out of Korver's/Deng's misses.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    He's still a chucker

    Melo gets bailed out A LOT by the refs

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    come playoffs you are not getting those ticky-tac BS calls, which would explain some of the lack of playoff success by Melo

  • In reply to Dpauley23:

    What in the HELL was Thibodeau thinking putting Lucas in the game, what a frickin bonehead.

  • In reply to cleansupwell:

    clean,

    And you have to love the lack of a double-team on Melo.

    Another great coaching decision by Thibs.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Yes, Vinny would've done better

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Are you even a Bull fan? I rarely ever see you make a point about something the Bulls have done well. Apparently you think our team should be Melo, Young, and others, but can give us no real way to trade for them. I know you show us the trade machine allows it but that doesnt mean other teams will accept it. I really dont see what you bring to these "conversations" except criticisms?

    Even now you point out 2 "bad" moves by Thibs and say it in a way that implies he sucks or has no business being here. I dont agree with those 2 moves either but the guy has been a HUGE upgrade

  • In reply to bcz1980:

    I don't think Mr. Happy isn't even a Bulls fan, and just post here for a center of attention.

  • In reply to pduh:

    Phil,

    So, you are one of Doug's CLUELESS band members too.

    I am a Bulls' fan. If you knew basketball, you would see the TRUTH in my comments.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    LOL @ you did you ever listen yourself when you talk or read what you are typing?

    I guess we who knows more basketball than your left pinky are clueless. Maybe you do know basketball but you sure don't know what you are talking about that is coming out of your ass.

    I give you one credit though you are one funny man.

  • In reply to pduh:

    Dude, don't even comment on this clown's posts. I think this is the only form of social interaction he can find. I end up having to skip passed some other people's quality commentary just because I make it a point to ignore this fool. Too bad DT doesn't ban him.

  • In reply to gdelgado217:

    Senor, you are on the right track, we can ban him by default by simply ignoring him, he will wither on the vine without the attention, he seems to thrive on the venom.

  • In reply to pduh:

    As I have mentioned several times before there is a very easy way to get rid of attention starved adolescents, ignor them.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    KYP:

    In the words of Stacey King, "KYP...Know your personnel."

    This says it all.

    http://twitter.com/christomasson/status/8380334374653952

    4 years?

  • Of all the players Thibs could have had inbound the ball on the Bulls' final possession, I am shocked he turned to Lucas. Brewer, Bogans, JJ, hell even Scalabrine would have made more sense. I know the game came down to much more than that, but if any of the other 4 guys (or the others I suggested) on the floor are at the line, at least 1 of those FTs is going in. I'm proud of the gritty effort the team showed in coming back without Rose, Boozer, and a very limited Gibson, but to lose on what can only be considered a bad coaching move by Thibs hurts.

  • In reply to tekioko:

    Yeap, Scalabrine is my choice to inbound that ball. He's gritty, a pretty good FT shooter, and tall enough to guarantee an inbound. Without a timeout, Lucas inbounding the ball alone is a dicey proposition. There were just so many things wrong with that play it's hard to assign fault, but I hope Thibs apologized to the team.

  • In reply to tekioko:

    You mean having a midget who was sitting on his dad's couch earlier in the day isn't the ideal strategy with the game on the line.

    Look, I love having TT as our coach, but he obviously has a few things to learn about real time decision making.

    In life there is no substitute for experience, and Thibs doesn't have enough yet.

  • Agreed, Deng outplayed Carmelo. Carmelo says he was sick, apparently being disinterested in your current team is an illness these days.

  • It's time to be positive, though. Thibs is a rookie coach, and he's going to make mistakes. I'm sure he didn't foresee us passing the ball around, and wanted to get the ball to Korver or Watson and have them just take the foul.

    What a hell of an effort to come back from 19 and 17 down while missing our two best players, and probably our 5th best barely playing (though Watson might have something to say about that). This team is showing an elite ability to overcome adversity, and I'm excited to see how they play when there isn't any. This is going to be an amazing year, we should all unwind our nerves a bit and sit back to enjoy it.

  • Trade Deng,JJ,Gibson and both first rounders for Melo = Bulls in Eastern Conference playoffs.

  • In reply to cleansupwell:

    At this point and I know it will be close to being impossible but the Bulls need to do all they can to hold on to Taj.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    The longer Denver waits the value of trade pieces go down.

  • VOTE:

    Guys who don't have the HEART or TOUGHNESS to play because of a STIFF NECK, don't deserve to get VOTED to the All-Star team.

    Derrick Rose lost my vote tonight. Way to MAN-UP!!!

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Why are you such an asshole. If you couldn't move your head without turning your body, I'd bet you be sitting on your ass the whole day

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I think Rose will go to the All-Star game. If I had a vote, I would vote for him. Stiff neck and all. Both teams tonight were short-handed, but despite Rose's absence the Bulls still nearly pulled it off.

  • In reply to tekioko:

    You do have a vote.
    http://www.nba.com/allstar2011/asb/eng/ballot.html?referrer=&cid=
    Early and often, my friend, early and often. It's the Chicago way!

  • In reply to msalivar:

    Amen! Everyone needs to vote at least 10 times! Stuff that ballot box baby! (not you Mr. Chumpy, you wouldn't know anything about stuffing boxes)

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Anyone been noticing what a joke the Wesern Conf center position is? I've been voting for Nene, but Gasol is a PF technically and no one else really stands out. Its like voting for a picking an all-sar for Kansas City in baseball most years

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Yeah, Nene gets my vote for how he manages to destroy Noah when they actually feed him the ball. Center is pretty much a joke all throughout the NBA, though.

  • In reply to msalivar:

    Not in the East bro, Noah, Bogut, Horford, Howard, Hibbard

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    There's still a huge lack of depth at the position in the league, and less ability to dominate a game than in the past.

  • In reply to msalivar:

    of course, the game is changing both leaguewide and with the way kids. particularly big kids are taught the game

  • In reply to msalivar:

    msalivar, did you really say Nene destroyed Noah? You are an idiot. And a big one for that matter. No need to say anything further.

  • In reply to Normie:

    Ok then, I guess you saw a different game where Nene wasn't able to score at will on Noah.

  • In reply to msalivar:

    Nene has my vote in the West.

  • In reply to msalivar:

    he did, but I remember Noah holing him in check their first meeting in Chicago

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Not really, it was the same deal where he scored every time they went to him, but for some reason they stopped going to him early on.

  • In reply to msalivar:

    msalivar,

    You are probably voting for Boozer too.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Being a homer, I'm voting for all the Bulls on the ballot.

  • In reply to msalivar:

    Amen! Especially for all the years Bulls players couldn't buy votes, like the last 2 years when Rose was an average 7th in voting in the East, now I'm going all Bulls (except at SG), all the time (early & often)

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    In reply to tekioko:

    I'm not even gonna gripe. The only thing that can make this okay is a 30 point smackdown in Sacramento.

    You know, the kind that we win.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Why don't you "man up" instead of being a troll?

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Go make comments somewhere else. The guy LEADS THE ENITIRE NBA right now in Pts + Ast + reb avg per game. Ahead of Durant, Kobe, oh and Melo too.

    Dont break a nail typing to much either. I dont know what I would do if you had to take a night off of talking so much shit

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    You never experience of a stiff neck, it is nothing to take lightly for so stop your none-sense little boy. Yes that is right I am calling you a little boy.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Mr. Chumpy,

    How is he supposed to play against the best athletes in the world if he can't even move his head?

    I take most of the crap you say with a grain of salt but this is ridiculous petty crybaby bull shit. Go suck Melo's dick & cheer for Denver or whatever team he forces himself too to make himself more famous, because you are no Chicagoan

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    ^ I second ChiRy.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    ChiRy,

    It's called TRYING. He didn't do that.

    And it's Happy with an H.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    How do you even claim to know if he tried?

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    No it is Mappy with a P as in Pelosi.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    I know what you are saying but that grain of salt has to be the size of the Rock of Gibrlatar to stomach anything that Mappy Pelosi has to say.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Mr Happy, questioning Derrick rose heart or worthiness to be an ALL-Star is where you lose all credibility. Give me a break!!! That guy is ALL HEART!!!

    GO BULLS!!!

  • In reply to thegreatlie:

    Logic,

    Melo played with the flu and hit the game-winner...THAT'S HEART.

    Gibson tried to play with a pinched nerve and swelling in his foot...THAT'S HEART.

    Rose sat out with a stiff neck....NO HEART or TOUGHNESS.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Again you never experience a stiff neck before, and it matters depend how stiff it and a guy who stated can not move left and right. You know if you force out moving your neck with no rest that can get really serious you know that? Obvious you don't but you know but yet you continue to act like you know something but you don't.

  • In reply to thegreatlie:

    Actually, he lost it eons ago.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Great! Don't cheer for the Bulls anymore.

  • In reply to boogernights:

    exactly, and I bet you were happy when Melo hit that mulligan last shot

  • Doug,

    And Melo had an off-night and still OUT-PLAYED Deng.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Just because you keep repeating something in caps doesn't make it true.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Shakes,

    Open your eyes.

    Melo had the better game, even with the flu.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Despite the arguably questionable decision to put in John Lucas as another ballhandler, you can see the upgrade in terms of coaching. The Bulls now always have a chance despite missing its best player and an injured starter (Gibson).

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Melo had an off night and still out-played Deng?

    Yep you have no clue what you are talking about and you call everyone else clueless the only clueless is you.

  • In reply to pduh:

    Phil,

    Which team won the game?

    Melo's team, because he hit the game-winning shot.

    STAT-LINES:

    Melo - 22 points, 8 assists, 6 rebounds and 1 block.

    Deng - 24 points, 11 rebounds, 1 assist and 1 block.

    CONCLUSION: Melo had the better stats and game.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Yes Melo's team win and you know what cause the Bulls to lose the game. Despite without Derrick Rose and despite Melo hit that game winning shot.

    A few mental mistake the Bulls make that cause them the game you want me to list them? Let me listed them for you....

    -Thibo put John Lucas III on the floor at the end which boggles my mind that his mistake there. Then obvious Lucas III missed both free throws

    -Do you remember that one shot that Melo missed and so many red jersey that could get the bound but couldn't capitalized.

    -With that four seconds left the clock the Bulls should double team Melo right away or at the very least Deng should do a better job putting pressure on Melo.

    He give Melo a little to much space to have time dribble and knock down the shot.

    Those are the mental mistakes at the end that cause the Bulls to lose.

    Also before your post from above you say yourself that Melo had an off night but then you say Melo had a better game.

    Seem like you flip flop right there it can not be both.

    Now I want to say you to just for not getting the wrong idea that Melo is a better player than Deng and I do prefer Melo over Deng. But last night games indicates that Deng outplayed Melo on the floor yes Melo hits the game winning shot(which it matters.) but doesn't always mean a player out-playeds that player on the floor for the entire game.

    If you know about basketball you would agree and understand.

  • Careful Doug, the truth turns some people schizophrenic. Just look at Happy.

  • Doug,

    Like I said, "Doug Thonus and his band of CLUELESS followers."

    Get real.

    Melo is a game-changer. He proved that tonight.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Hey Happy, I'm sure I'm not alone in saying, f*** you.

    My apologies, Doug, insofar that you want them.

  • In reply to msalivar:

    F*** me? F*** YOU.

    I'm just TROLLING. Don't take it personally.

  • In reply to Seth:

    ^satire. FUNNY STUFF.

  • In reply to Seth:

    I get the trolling, and I get the satire. It's not so much that I take it personally, but it pisses me off that he's insulting some really bright basketball people. I am pretty clueless when it comes to this game, but there are some really good minds who post here, and some who have stopped.

  • In reply to msalivar:

    msalivar,

    Bright basketball people...you aren't one of them.

  • In reply to msalivar:

    msalivar,

    That's okay, because it's not validated.

    I happen to be right.

    You apparently are one of the CLUELESS.

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    In reply to MrHappy:

    Why is that okay to you? I don't get it. Maybe you're right man. Really. Maybe the Bulls would be a 100% bonafide championship squad if they got rid of all these bums and brought in Melo, Nick Young, Sam Young, Sonny Weems and whatever D leaguer you could trade Noah and Gibson for. Okay, you might actually be correct about that.

    How does dissing the board help you make even one point though? Doug and his clueless band give you someplace to test your ideas so you don't have to get arrested haranguing people at bus stops. Show some love man.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    No question that majority of Bulls fans would love to have Melo depend what cost of course(trading and such.) while Melo hit a game winning shot but he has not play well tonight and you say yourself he has an "off night."

    And like I say the only clueless is you I do not think you never ever play basketball your entire life. If so you probably the level of Smush Parker.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    If he was such a game changer, he would have led his team to a blowout against the shorthanded Bulls

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Ok since you keep mention "Melo is a game changer" I want to hear your "definition" of what is a game changer to you so go ahead and give me your definition.

    I will explained later once you post your definition.

  • Are you implying that Happy doesn't bathe?

  • I'm thinking it could be both, Rain-X on his glasses.

  • Assuming we can't afford to resign him when it comes time, is his value better now, or in a couple years if he keeps this pace up? I don't think that I'd want to give him and Deng up for Anthony, but if we were to get a guy like Mayo or Harden for Taj and one of our own picks...

    With Asik and Taj both on the bench, I don't think we have enough minutes. Noah is the only one of the four who can really shift positions, so it makes sense for our bench guy to be a center. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to keep Taj, but if we can get value and fill a hole... that's a hell of a decision to have to make.

  • In reply to msalivar:

    unless the CBA dramatically changes, I don't know why we wouldn't be able to resign Taj

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    We'll see if JR is willing to spend that much on a backup PF, and how much others are willing to spend for a decent starter.

  • In reply to msalivar:

    he knows Boozer is now on the downward slope of his career, if not directly at the top. He knows Boozer has an injury history, it would be a good investment

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    He should also know that Taj won't be the starting PF next to Noah on a championship team. What chances do we have of replacing Boozer with that sort of contract for Taj?

  • Everybody,

    What THE HELL was Lucas doing on the court with 24 secs to go? I knew that was a mistake before he bombed the 2 free throws.

    I LOVE THIBS, but you don't put in a guy who YOU JUST SIGNED 5 HOURS AGO, who played a total of 5 minutes up until then, and ask him to potentially hit 2 clutch shots. He was just way TOO GREEN!
    I knew he was going to be the one to get fouled, & I knew he was going to choke....

    BAD MOVE Thibs, go buy a CLUE

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    He was trying to have John Lucas do his best Sundiata Gaines impersonation LOL.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Doug, I really didn't want to do this, and I know everyone is entitled to an opinion. But don't you think it's time you ban MrHappy from this blog?

    He's the most pessimistic person I've ever encountered! He seriously drains all the positive energy the awesome Bulls fans on this board have.. He undermines everyone here.. And it's not like we're not critical of our Bulls.. You me and everyone else here will give credit to our team when it's due and obviously and fairly criticize them when our expectations aren't met..

  • In reply to rustumt:

    do it doug, ban him

    he really does drain all the positive vibes this site builds

  • In reply to rustumt:

    I second the motion. He's trying to be a contrarian just for the sake of being a contrarian. He just wants the attention.

  • In reply to rustumt:

    I can't believe he hasn't been banned already. This is a great blog, but Mr. Chumpy turns every post into his own personal discussion - a discussion noone else wants to be a part of.

    Maybe he hasn't been banned yet because he helps crank up the page-views and comments to the blog?

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    This tells that Watson is more Rose like(obviously not so good) than a Duhon type. I guess we need a Chris Duhon type PG who can run an offense for 10/15 mins when Watson is doing badly. Watson can play with Rose and take some minutes out of Bogans.

    Korver/Taj were obviously out of sync tonight....if they had been a little decent in the what-ifs world..

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    CJ just needs to be himself when Rose is out and not over think things, he needs to be aggressive and score to keep us in the game while the starters rest.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    It's easy to play armchair coach now. But I guess at that time there was no other ball handler reliable.

  • In reply to boogernights:

    I played armchair at the time too. Bogans would have been better, even Scal

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    You mean the same Bogans who lost the ball off his ass(or was it his head, hard to tell the difference)on Melo's first game winning miss.

    That guy should never be in the game to start a quarter or to finish one. He should be sharing veteran stories with Thomas at the far far end of the bench.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    I can't say I disagree. I think he'll do fine once he gets into his proper role, but he's a long ways from 4-8 minutes a game to start the 2nd and end the 3rd quarter. Brewer needs to be starting, with Watson backing up both guards unless we manage to trade for an upgrade somewhere in there.

    But after last night, I want Watson getting a good 20-25 minutes a game. I'm seeing 10 backing up Rose, 10 backing up Brewer, and 5 going small with a Watson/Rose/Brewer/Deng/Noah lineup.

  • That sucks to lose a game when its so close. But i think the most important thing to take from this is that the Team will not lay down for anybody or any circumstances.

  • Man, that would be great. I doubt he'd help a whole lot against Orlando and Boston, but it would have him ready for OKC and LA.

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    In reply to msalivar:

    Heck yeah he'd help. Maybe he can't bang yet, but what this team needs more than anything is to get Derrick some help getting easy buckets in the 4th quarter. This team's working way too hard down the stretch.

  • no moral victory tonight. No excuses. This is one that got away, slipped through our fingers, and there are no good feelings. I just feel sick. Lucas blew it, he is not even a real Bull, he shouldn't have made the team tonight over Weaver either.

  • How many open shots did Bogans brick? Move Brewer into the starting lineup & play Watson & Korver more as reserves @ the 2, Bogans kills are offense.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Unfortunately Korver bricked even more than Bogans.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    he did, but still, who would you want shooting an open 3?

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Yea, but at least he doesn't get us down by 17 in the first and third quarters every game.

  • At the same time, I want him to be extremely careful coming back, no pushing it and reinjuring himself. We're playing well enough without him, so I would even be ok if it got pushed toward Christmas if he really needed it.

  • I have mix emotions right now. I honestly thought the Bulls were going to get blown out of the gym. I was a little worried because I didn't know who the go to scorer was going to be tonight. I'm really happy for CJ Watson but I feel real bad for Noah.

    JOHN LUCAS OWES THE BULLS LUNCH OR DINNER. It's not his fault though, Coach Thibs put him in that position. I wouldn't want Brewer out there, but probably preferred Bogans or JJ. If only John Lucas would've given the ball to Deng, we probably would've won.

    Overall, I'm very happy with how we competed. I guess Thib's system is making the Bulls a better team and we were able to hang with Denver without Rose, Boozer, and Taj.

  • In reply to truniac307:

    Don't hear all the gripers complaining about CJ tonight!

    Where are all you haters?

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    That was the CJ Watson that I jumped up and down for when we signed him this summer.

  • In reply to truniac307:

    True, I already pegged this as a loss the moment I read Rose wasn't playing and when they were down at the beginning of the 3rd. Guess it was too much to ask.

  • don't forget the complete lack of leadership that allowed his team to mindlessly go through 47.9 minutes, commiting turnover after turnover, playing no real D other than reaching in for the steal, forcing up mind-numbing shots, and generally act like a bunch of knuckleheads

  • agreed, but a lot of the blame for having Lucas out there in crunch time

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    THE GOOD THIBS GIVETH & THE GOOD THIBS TAKETH AWAY

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    ARRRGH! Still feelin this tough loss :(

  • Apart from CJ's performance in this game, he's been terrible. I often wondered when he was turning the ball over, making bad passes, throwing up bricks, who is this guy, which hole did he come out of? We need to get a real backup at the point.

  • In reply to Normie:

    that's just not true, he's been getting better, and rarely turns the ball over. His job is to lead the 2nd unit & keep the opponent from making a run & he's been doing that

  • 1.) People (definitely Doug included), a game isn't lost in the last minute when you play like absolute shit for the first 26+ minutes of the game.

    2.) Rose wanted to play. He couldn't turn his neck. A point guard who can't turn his neck shoots 15%, turns the ball over ten times, and gets schooled by Ty Lawson. There's another game tomorrow. If he misses that, cool. If anyone says they projected 50 wins for this team picked more than eight wins with a loss to NY at the UC, they're fucking lying.

  • FYI Melo had the stomach flu so he had a somewhat under par performance, and even with that he's on the floor at the end to hit the game winner. You forget the Nuggets also had 40% of there normal starting line off the court, Billups and Kenyon Martin. If we could trade Gibson,JJ,Deng and both first rounders to get Melo this team makes it to the Eastern Conference finals and possibly beyond.

  • In reply to cleansupwell:

    Clean,

    Thank you for not being clueless, like so many other posters on here.

    DT included.

  • Thibs made a bad move on that one, but overall has done great.

  • Didnt see the game but it sure sounds like a coaching mistake to put Lucas in for the final possession. Doubt Thibs will do it again.

  • Hi Doug and all the "clueless??" followers.

    Like any playground bully Mr Happy trives on the attention.

    Can I ask that no-one ever respond to anything he writes - otherwise it is, in my opinion, allowing a troll to dictate an excellent Blog and so getting his much needed attention.

    We were told from a young age that bullys are really wimps and if you ignore them long enough they will leave you alone and go and find someone else (another blog) to get their much needed attention from. I assume we are all mature adults here and would not expect our children to pander to a bully/troll.

  • In reply to Jersey66:

    I second that. From now on, let's ignore that poser.

  • In reply to boogernights:

    Wish we had the option to HIDE his comments like many other sites have.

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    Hide feature would be great

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    Circus Trip: No Clowning Around

    The Bulls are becoming something solid on this Circus Trip.

    They're interesting, they defend every night and give you their best, and sometimes they're down 1 or 2 guys from full strength.

    The Bulls aren't perfect, but they're becoming effective.

    On a night I thought Denver would destroy the Bulls, the Bulls didn't give an inch. Noah comes to play each night, Watson surprised all of us (and Denver), and Thibodeau learned something (don't put in cold players at the end of the game).

    On the one hand Thibodeau might have lost the game by inserting Lucas at the end. But Thibodeau had the guts to try a young player at the end of a game. Thibodeau wants players to improve and you can see that in the play of James Johnson, Asik, and others.

    I'm rambling this morning. Just wanted to say the Bulls are worth watching this year. Like Noah said weeks ago, as the season goes on, "This team is going to get ugly." And ugly is a good thing.

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    BRAVADO:

    In Melo's own words...

    After a timeout, Anthony was unable to connect on a tough shot in traffic, but the Bulls couldn

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    THE TRUTH:

    To the CLUELESS,

    Stop living in denial and actually read my posts. Sorry THE TRUTH hurts.

    Get a clue and learn the game of basketball!!!

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Uh how cute(no homo of course.) think Mr. Happy telling the truths and think he knows basketball awwwww.

  • In reply to Jersey66:

    I am on board if everyone else is. I've been suggesting this for a while. We can self ban him by ignoring him.

  • Mitchell,

    I'm craving attention. I'm just speaking the TRUTH.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    not craving attention

  • Nene' should be an All-Star.

  • Doug,

    GET A CLUE DOUG.

    Melo hit almost had a triple-double and hit the game-winning shot, despite having the flu.

    That would be a Jordan-esque type performance.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    if you were watching Melo play all night, at no point should you have been thinking Jordan-esque, especially needing a mulligan on the game winner

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    The only flu that Melo had was of the pot induced variety.

  • Mitchell,

    Don't be one of the CLUELESS. You are better than that.

    Certain people on here just don't know basketball.

    And they get offended and/or defensive about when I expose the truth.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I believe that you officially annoited him as clueless earlier in this post, and we know that you are never wrong, quite the conumdrum.

  • Doug,

    Winning is the only thing that matters Doug.

    GET A CLUE.

    Who hit the game-winner, Deng or Melo?

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Now I know what you do when not annoying us. You annoy the rest of the world as an umemployed attorney.

  • Mitchell,

    What was I wrong about?

    - Derrick Byars played well enough to make the team a year ago. He was cut over money.

    - Sam Young took PITT to the ELITE 8. James Johnson couldn't get WFU out of the 1st Round. He was the better NCAA player. He's also the better pro player.

    - The Bulls met with Dwyane Wade 3 separate times trying to get him to sign with them. They only met with LBJ once. My "business was good" comments referred to that. I NEVER said Wade was coming to the Bulls.

    - Wayne Ellington was the MOP of the Final 4, unlike James Johnson, who NEVER got out of the 1st Round. He was better than JJ in college and he's better than him in the pro's.

    GET A CLUE!!!

  • Mitchell,

    Your logic is DUMB-FOUNDING.

    You have officially entered the land of the CLUELESS.

  • Won't the bird rights on Taj keep JR from paying luxury tax on that contract, though?

  • Hehe, Cliche of the Day

    Doug, you should make that a daily feature! Every day, everyone has a guess as to what that day's Cliche of the Day will be. At the end of the day you can run a script to tally Happy's comments and find his most repeated phrase. The first person to guess that phrase wins beer and honor! Or just honor would be cool.

  • In reply to msalivar:

    Shouldn't that be CLICHE OF THE DAY!!!!

  • In reply to BigWay:

    YES!!!!!

  • That's right, but how long has the luxury tax been around?

  • You mean that final rebound that they would have gotten had Asik been in the game instead of Bonehead Bogans(apparently he is Boylans long lost brother from another mother).

    Just another small aside that Thibs missed on at the end of the game.

  • In your own inimitable way you may have said what I have been saying for a while, Boozer is our Melo, only a much better dude.

  • CJ just needs to feel confident in his role on this team, and after tonight it is obvious that when Rose is out CJ needs to be aggressive.

  • I wasn't clear, probably typing too fast. I meant if anyone who thought this was a 50-win team says they picked more than eight wins in November that would include a loss to NY at the UC, they're lying.

  • Effort isn't really Denver basketball in that sense. Because their entire defense depends on blocking shots, they're foul machines. Look at their wins and the quantity/efficiency of long twos and threes. They win and lose, equally lazy, just at a faster pace.

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