Bulls Beat #167 - Through the Texas Triangle

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Bulls Beat #167 - Through the Texas Triangle
The Bulls won two of three in Texas and are off to an excellent start on this circus trip. A wrap up of the past three games and an outlook on the next three as well as a breakdown of how well the Bulls have played overall.

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  • The HEAT's big three are playing better but outside of that Joel Anthony is garbage... he's just awful and there's really nothing else that scares you on that team other than Wade, LeBron and Bosh. But I digress.

    I could only imagine what this team would be like with a legit scoring threat at the SG. I think thats the piece that puts them into Championship caliber talk. Right now they are a top team in the East but not one that can win a title.

    If they could get a SG that could make threes and get to the line which is something this team needs.. someone who can draw fouls and make free throws. Play solid defense and hit open 3's.

    Then I think you can talk Championship potential.

    Someone compared the Bulls to the Spurs the other night I think on ESPN and hell if thats the model you wanna use to win titles I'm all for that.

    But I think they are a legit two guard and backup PG away from Championship talk.

    I think this is the most optimistic I've been about the Bulls since they signed Ben Wallace.

  • In reply to souleater7:

    So you think we are going to sink into a mopey morrass of internal discension.

  • In reply to souleater7:

    Bulls are 7-4 now, lets say they go 2-2 to close out the road trip, then 3-3 over the next 6, then they go 13-1 playing a bunch of crap teams over the next 14 while they have Boozer. Thats a record of 25-10 over about the first 3/8ths of the season, pacing ourselves for a 58 win season

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    BACK-TO-BACK STATS:

    -Yes the Bulls lead the NBA in back-to-backs(B2Bs) played w/ 23

    -But, here's the good news, we play in 26 games with the opponent on a B2B, giving us a +3 advantage

    -Of our 23, 15 our only us on a B2B, 8 are both Bulls & opponent

    -Of our opponents 26 B2Bs, 18 are just them on a B2B, with the same 8 shared B2Bs

    -After the road trip ends, we'll have only 10 B2Bs left where we are the only one on B2B, while having still around 16-17 games with only our opponent on a B2B

    Get the full stats here: http://basketbawful.blogspot.com/2010/11/unnecessarily-comprehensive-and-overdue.html

    Also interesting, here's how the schedule is made: http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/19219/how-to-build-the-nba-schedule

    Read more: http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2010/11/bulls-beat-167---through-the-texas-triangle.html#ixzz15xdpUDZU

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    BACK-TO-BACK STATS:

    -Yes the Bulls lead the NBA in back-to-backs(B2Bs) played w/ 23

    -But, here's the good news, we play in 26 games with the opponent on a B2B, giving us a +3 advantage

    -Of our 23, 15 our only us on a B2B, 8 are both Bulls & opponent

    -Of our opponents 26 B2Bs, 18 are just them on a B2B, with the same 8 shared B2Bs

    -After the road trip ends, we'll have only 10 B2Bs left where we are the only one on B2B, while having still around 16-17 games with only our opponent on a B2B

    Get the full stats here: http://basketbawful.blogspot.com/2010/11/unnecessarily-comprehensive-and-overdue.html

    Also interesting, here's how the schedule is made: http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/19219/how-to-build-the-nba-schedule

    Read more: http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2010/11/bulls-beat-167---through-the-texas-triangle.html#ixzz15xdpUDZU

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Someone tell me or show me the next 25 games for the bulls

  • In reply to jaymccray:

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/2011_games.html

  • In reply to jaymccray:

    really? you can't look it up?

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    BACK-TO-BACK STATS:

    -Yes the Bulls lead the NBA in back-to-backs(B2Bs) played w/ 23

    -But, here's the good news, we play in 26 games with the opponent on a B2B, giving us a +3 advantage

    -Of our 23, 15 our only us on a B2B, 8 are both Bulls & opponent

    -Of our opponents 26 B2Bs, 18 are just them on a B2B, with the same 8 shared B2Bs

    -After the road trip ends, we'll have only 10 B2Bs left where we are the only one on B2B, while having still around 16-17 games with only our opponent on a B2B

    Get the full stats here: http://basketbawful.blogspot.com/2010/11/unnecessarily-comprehensive-and-overdue.html

    Also interesting, here's how the schedule is made: http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/19219/how-to-build-the-nba-schedule

    Read more: http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2010/11/bulls-beat-167---through-the-texas-triangle.html#ixzz15xdpUDZU

  • TWO POINTS (for Doug):

    #1.) Newsflash...Dirk Nowtizki is possibly a future Hall of Famer. He's going to score.

    #2.) It's not the rebounds that made the difference vs. Dalls, it was the FTA's.

    * A team can get all the (offensive) rebounds they want, but it's what they do with those extra possessions that matter most.

    ** The Bulls ATTACKED THE BASKET late in that game, instead of SETTLING FOR JUMPSHOTS, which is why they beat the Mavs.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Actually they made huge three pointers and rebounded well. CJ Watson, Korver and Gibson's game changing 3's are what got them past Dallas. But yeah the did attack more maybe then they did against the Spurs.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    hey doug, it's probably far too early to ask this, but what about nolan smith from duke. He seems like a good fit as a back up pg next year. It might allow us to let cj play as the back up 2 guard/scoring option off the bench. At the moment, i'm more than content with cj as the backup pg. It's just next years 2 guard options suck.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Hey Doug, love the podcasts! I was wondering since they like Korver off the bench, maybe they would put him in earlier like in the end of the 1st with Rose, Noah , and Deng? I am a HUGE Korver fan since his days in Philly, or maybe have him come in quick in the 3rd quarter since that has been the most frustrating quarter for the bulls this year, Keep up the great work.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Nice write-up on Noah after the win over the Mavericks.
    http://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/art_garcia/11/21/joakim-noah-feature/?ls=iref:nbahpt1

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    1) you can contain him by putting a hand in his face

    2) no, it was the rebounds. Bulls were not getting to the line in the 1st, yet they had the lead. You can win games by rebounding

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  • Tough choice, agree with Doug, or agree with Mappy Pelosi.

  • If Boozer isn't the missing piece, a quantum leap for the team as a whole, then we sure wasted $75-80 million dollars. Unless he transplants souls with Ben Wallace, I don't think we wasted our money.

    Boozer is at least the second best NBA player on our roster right now. He is probably closer to being the best than anyone else is to him being the second best, Although Noah is closing that gap.

    That alone should allow us to cross the threshold from a competitively good team, to an elite team. When Deng is now your 4rth best player, you have to be in another class altogether than when he was your best or even your second best player.

    I say hell yes hell is the missing piece.

    Can't discount Thibs vs. Del Bimbo either.

  • exactly, you out rebound an opponent by 25 some boards, and 95% of the time you are going to win. Any coach will tell you that

  • the only thing brutal about the schedule is there is still tons & tons of back to backs to be played. 18 more if I'm not mistaken...that sucks. The only thing we can hope for is for opponents to be playing on back to backs as well. Anyone know of anywhere to get stats on opponent back to backs?

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    FOUND SOME BACK-TO-BACK STATS:

    -Yes the Bulls lead the NBA in back-to-backs(B2Bs) played w/ 23

    -But, here's the good news, we play in 26 games with the opponent on a B2B, giving us a +3 advantage

    -Of our 23, 15 our only us on a B2B, 8 are both Bulls & opponent

    -Of our opponents 26 B2Bs, 18 are just them on a B2B, with the same 8 shared B2Bs

    -After the road trip ends, we'll have only 10 B2Bs left where we are the only one on B2B, while having still around 16-17 games with only our opponent on a B2B

    Get the full stats here: http://basketbawful.blogspot.com/2010/11/unnecessarily-comprehensive-and-overdue.html

    Also interesting, here's how the schedule is made: http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/19219/how-to-build-the-nba-schedule

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    What a brutal schedule to start the season, esp. with Booze going out, but it could reall be a blessing in disguise, a silver lining of sorts, as if really pushes us to be the best team we can be right out of the gate, & for the players to push themselves.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    BACK-TO-BACK STATS:

    -Yes the Bulls lead the NBA in back-to-backs(B2Bs) played w/ 23

    -But, here's the good news, we play in 26 games with the opponent on a B2B, giving us a +3 advantage

    -Of our 23, 15 our only us on a B2B, 8 are both Bulls & opponent

    -Of our opponents 26 B2Bs, 18 are just them on a B2B, with the same 8 shared B2Bs

    -After the road trip ends, we'll have only 10 B2Bs left where we are the only one on B2B, while having still around 16-17 games with only our opponent on a B2B

    Get the full stats here: http://basketbawful.blogspot.com/2010/11/unnecessarily-comprehensive-and-overdue.html

    Also interesting, here's how the schedule is made: http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/19219/how-to-build-the-nba-schedule

    Read more: http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2010/11/bulls-beat-167---through-the-texas-triangle.html#ixzz15xdpUDZU

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    BACK-TO-BACK STATS:

    -Yes the Bulls lead the NBA in back-to-backs(B2Bs) played w/ 23

    -But, here's the good news, we play in 26 games with the opponent on a B2B, giving us a +3 advantage

    -Of our 23, 15 our only us on a B2B, 8 are both Bulls & opponent

    -Of our opponents 26 B2Bs, 18 are just them on a B2B, with the same 8 shared B2Bs

    -After the road trip ends, we'll have only 10 B2Bs left where we are the only one on B2B, while having still around 16-17 games with only our opponent on a B2B

    Get the full stats here: http://basketbawful.blogspot.com/2010/11/unnecessarily-comprehensive-and-overdue.html

    Also interesting, here's how the schedule is made: http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/19219/how-to-build-the-nba-schedule

    Read more: http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2010/11/bulls-beat-167---through-the-texas-triangle.html#ixzz15xdpUDZU

  • ypu, really eases up during that 18-20 game stretch. A very long, 15-20 game win streak is not out of the question, but of course 2-3 loses is acceptible

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    26-14 would be a 53 win pace

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    & I think that 26-14 est. is a worse case scenario, barring a major injury

  • I agree with your cap premise.

    The cap is Rose's carelessness with the ball, even moreso than his defensive issues(which TT should be able to fix, if the desire is there on Rose's part).

    He needs to become at least as good a ballhandler as Jordan was for this team to become a legitimate championship contender. In other words he needs to become an elite ballhandler.

    When the game is on the line, the guy with the ball in his hands all the time has to be unflapable with the ball and with his decision making.

    Right now he is nowhere near there, and I don't think that he can get there during the course of a season.

    He needs to dedicate an offseason to it with the same maniacal determination that Jordan had in the summer of 95. Hopefully, Scottie Pippen can show Rose what that was like, since Michael can't.

  • I agree, & would add Deng needs to step up & should after becoming the 3rd option, and also team play, the defense on a string & ball movement. All players need to improve individually & in Thibs' system. We don't need anyone outside of the team, just growth from within.

  • Kobe, Wade or Manu are there for sure. Maybe Stephen Curry, and I'd add Monta Ellis if I actually thought he'd keep this production up all year. Although if you want to get creative, put Paul, Williams, Rondo, Westbrook or Nash at the point and play Rose as the SG.

    Still it's a pretty short list, all are all-stars or close, and nobody that's available.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Oh of course you could also play SF like LeBron or Durant out of position at the SG, but we're still talking untouchable all-stars. :)

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    The SG situation is perplexing to say the least. We know Bulls need a Big Upgrade, but how can they achieve it? That's the question. Somehow I'm hoping an opportunity will present itself by February. I look how Portland acquired Wesley Matthews, it was a bold move and many thought Portland paid too much, but $6mil for a good starting SG is not a lot (but it was for 5 years which Bulls did not want to commit to). We see how Michael Beasely is now producing and was a steal for Minnesota. Things Happen...

    We don't know where we will find our SG, but I've come to the conclusion that Rudy's not good enough, we need someone better, seriously better. We need top 10 at his position quality, but that doesn't have to be top 10 rated at the time of acquisition - that's the tricky part.

    Can Gar and Pax pull it off? We'll just have to wait and see...

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