Korver may need surgery? Bogans possibly out with strained back

Mike McGraw hints at it here:

Bulls guard Kyle Korver said Monday he's been bothered by a cyst in his
left ankle. He had a cortisone shot, but is hoping surgery will not be
necessary.

CSN's video update discusses it more saying that if his condition doesn't improve he'll require surgery.  Also on the update and linked elsewhere is that Keith Bogans may miss tonight's game with a sore back.

For his part, Korver's said the injury is getting better after the cortisone shot, but it isn't fully there yet.  I'm not a doctor, and I don't know how cortisone would be used to treat this condition specifically, but in my experience with people getting cortisone shots is that if the condition doesn't improve more or less right away, it typically isn't going to get any more benefit from the cortisone.

In that case, I'm concerned that this is going to be an issue which eventually requires surgery, but we'll have to wait and see. 

As for Bogans, his issue seems unlikely to effect him going forward.  

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  • Well, that's depressing.

  • I'm not too worried about Korver. I'm no doctor either but I'm pretty sure Cortisone only makes the swelling around the cyst go away rather than killing the cyst.. but I don't think having a cyst removed or drained would mean much time off.

  • In reply to Panthro:

    Depends on if it is attached to anything important like a tendon or how much extra tissue has to be removed to make sure the cyst doesn't grow back.

  • In reply to Panthro:

    On the plus side, more chances for Brewer to figure things out.

  • In reply to bullshooter:

    Honestly, I have to wonder about the health care decisions that the players and the team make. Why don't they take care of these things in the offseason. Did Korver just find out about this thing, or has it been lingering for a while.

    There is virtually no reason to not remove a cyst the moment that you become aware of it. They tend to do one thing and one thing only, grow, sometimes very fast.

    Luckily, these things are usually benign. The recovery time will clearly be related to where it is in the ankle and what it is attached too, and if any other tissue has to be removed with the cyst.

    There is no reason to wait, cut the damn thing out now.

    Given that he(Korver) is our only legitimate 3 point threat, and the contract that he received, he is arguably the fifth most important Bull(despite his defensive shortcomings, which may not be as bad as I feared) We cannot afford to lose him for very long.

  • In reply to Panthro:

    It is a kind of a blessing in disguise. We can really evaluate Deng's 3 point game(no Korver), Taj's game(no Boozer), Brewer's game(no Korver,Bogans) and CJ Watson.

    I am having this dreadful feeling though that the best shooter on the healthy squad might be CJ Watson and that's a recipe for losing 3 out of 4 games..

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Yea, Watson has been really disappointing, he does not look like the dynamic player that I noticed the few times that I saw him play with GS.

    Hopefully, he is still adjusting to a new team and a new coach, and learning how to play with Rose.

    I was counting on him being an upgrade to Hinrich, at least on offense.

  • In reply to Panthro:

    Exactly. Everyone that I know who has had a cyst, has had it removed via surgery. Don't think it would take very long to heal. Do it now & get it out of the way.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    I had to have my hand immobilized for 1-2 weeks, and it took another couple of weeks to get back any range of motion whatsoever. It really does depend on the type and location of cyst.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    This post of mine is not related to the article but just wanted to share this snippet:

    Young Bucks point guard Brandon Jennings said Maggette has "taken him under his wings."
    Jennings said Maggette has given him some tips on attacking the rim and drawing fouls. Jennings had difficulty finishing at the basket and getting to the line as a rookie last season. Maggette, on the other hand, has had an uncanny knack for drawing fouls throughout his pro career. Last season, Maggette went to the line 551 times.

    "He (Maggette) told me that when I went to the basket that I should create contact and get the foul," Jennings said. "It seems to be working."

    In six preseason games, Jennings has attempted 31 free throws and made 27 of them.
    --- Yes, it's only preseason, but the Bucks are showing signs of being one of the league's best free throw shooting teams.

    What the heck??? What is going on with Rose and his Free Throw Attempts? When is Rose going to learn?

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    I dont see Weaver even on the bench, anyone know whats going on with him?

  • Can we get a pic of that nasty cyst?
    Must be huge!
    Yeah I agree shouldn't take Kyle out to long to have that thing removed.

  • The good news is we don't play Orlando until December, so Rose shouldn't miss a game for awhile.

  • Ha, LMAO! Yes, some obvious blessings would be just what the doctor ordered. Don't need anymore incognito blessings. Just be yourself you silly ass blessings!

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    LOL - couldn't agree more! Korver's syst disappearing overnight would be a nice one.

  • In reply to bcz1980:

    The training staff clearing Boozer to play 1-2 weeks after his cast is removed would be another

  • In reply to bcz1980:

    TWO THOUGHTS:

    With Korver's health in doubt, this is exactly why the Bulls' management should #1.) TRADE JAMES JOHNSON for a Shooting Guard/Small Forward (Sam Young, Nick Young and Wayne Ellington come to mind) and the Bulls' coaching staff should #2.) PLAY KYLE WEAVER MORE.

    If I were GarPaxs and Thibs, I'd go with Kyle Weaver now and come December 15th I'd make a move for MELO, but if that fell through then I would trade James Johnson for a younger Shooting Guard.

    The Bulls SCORING is in doubt, so a trade is essential.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    You do realize that you are not now, have never been, and will never be GarPax, or even GarPaxs.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    The Karma of Jordan's shot over Byron Russell is hurting us;-)...All three Utah Jazz FA's have been hurt in the pre-season.

    BTW, I read Noah is going to play a lot of minutes for the next 2 pre-season games. Will Pax pull Thibs's tie now...

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    In reply to schaumburgfan:

    I don't know. Is it bad karma? Cause MJ did clear him out butt first so i can see how that'd bring on some cosmic consequences. OR, is the universe just conspiring to get Kyle Weaver a contract?

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    I hope this means more playing time for Weaver. He looked good in his very limited minutes, but really hasn't gotten any minutes since. It probably won't considering Thibs said he wants to start moving toward using his expected 8-9 man rotation. Guess we will have to wait and see.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    So Im thinking we start JJ. His D is good enough and his recent play shows that he can help us in extended minutes.

    I say we give the play JJ at SG idea another shot.

    Thoughts?

  • In reply to 1096ballenf:

    Biggestbullsfan,

    You need face REALITY.

    James Johnson needs to be traded. He's an ineffective SMALL FORWARD with the Bulls. He's NOT A SHOOTING GUARD or a POWER FORWARD for that matter.

  • In reply to 1096ballenf:

    I think so too. Give him a shot at extended minutes in one pre-season game and see if he can play through some mistakes. He makes too many mistakes/minutes and they get magnified if he plays less minutes. But I am guessing, Brewer is going to earn the majority of minutes. I would like to see Deng play less as we know what we get from him and let Brewer, JJ play the majority of SF/SG minutes today.

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    In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Extended minutes, yes. At SG? No.

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    In reply to schaumburgfan:

    I said this after Brewer's injury and no one believed me but can we please bubblewrap this team???

  • Hopefully they get the surgery for Korver(if required) done ASAP. His game is probably the easiest to get integrated and he has had some practice anyhow. We saw he was bad in the last 2 games with the injury.
    I would go out on a limb and give James Johnson some time with the starting lineup to see if his BB IQ has improved and maybe start as the SG.

  • the way brewers still dealing with last years issues..im pretty sure we cant count much on him either..we all knew this team would be injury riddled.. that was always my main key to this team.. it wasnt 3 point shooting or playmaking.. it was def. injuries.. boozer,deng,taj,brewer,joakim.. i mean we were begging for it..

    if korvers out for long though.. we cant just sit around.. we have to make a deal.. espec with boozer and potientially korver now..plus kyles was suppose to be dengs backup and you never know with him.. we need to stop being greedy with our 1st round picks and get a qaulity guy instead of signing these kyle weaver's.. make a trade for a sg already ..we have a potiential lottery pick for bascially an expiring.. trade it for afflalo..

  • At least it will be a chance for Weaver to get some minutes. We didn't really have a SG to begin with, now we only have the all injured 2-guard rotation... I'm depressed.

  • IDEAL MELO TRADE:

    To Bulls: Carmelo Anthony
    To Nuggets: Carl Landry (or Jason Thompson), Omri Casspi, James Johnson and Picks
    To Kings: Luol Deng, Taj Gibson and Cash

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=262843w

    Every indication is that Melo wouldn't mind a trade to the Chicago Bulls, so it works out great for him. Denver would be getting two nice young prospects, cap relief and future picks to around. Sacramento would be getting an upgrade at SF and a decent back-up at PF, both of which have playoff experience, which this Kings' team desperately needs.

    * Sam Dalembert could also be moved to Denver, but that wouldn't give them instant cap relief. He does have an expiring contract, which is a nice trade asset.

    SIDE NOTE:

    Sacramento can afford Luol Deng's contract. They have no big contracts, outside of the expiring contract of Sam Dalemebert, on their roster. It's no secret they are building their team around Tyreke Evans and DeMarcus Cousins. When those two guys are do their second (big-money) contracts, Luol Deng and his somewhat hefty contract will be expiring. That works out perfectly for the Kings' management.

    This is the IDEAL 3-team trade for the Bulls' brass to pursue.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Man you've got to lay off the fantasy trade machine.. its getting to your head.

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    hello from HAPPY LAND!

    Today, I am going to GIVe YOU some RANDOM caps LOCK! It's CAPS,and NOW it's not! Here's a James Johnson/Dicky Simpkins joke, Dicky Johnson..HAHAHA! Now for an assinine Carmelo trade of the day, how about five shitty players that average 5 points a game, for Carmelo that averages 25+ a game! IT'S AN EVEN TRADE

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    ROSTERS:

    The Chicago Bulls...

    PG - Rose/Watson
    SG - Brewer/Bogans
    SF - Melo/Korver
    PF - Boozer/Thomas
    C - Noah/Asik

    The Denver Nuggets...

    PG - Billups/Lawson
    SG - Afflalo/Smith
    SF - Landry/Casspi
    PF - Harrington/Martin
    C - Nene/Anderson

    The Sacramento Kings...

    PG - Udrih/Head
    SG - Evans/Garcia
    SF - Deng/Greene
    PF - Thompson/Gibson
    C - Dalembert/Cousins

    That would work out quite nicely for each team & player involved in my proposed trade.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I somewhat agree, but its all a fantasy, you are wasting your energy Mappy.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Wow those ex Utah players are damaged goods!
    We sure got hit hard and fast...well heal up boys the games are going to start counting very soon!
    We should be holding onto Weaver and need to get Dampier.
    We need some big beef because Noah, Asik, Thomas, Taj, Boozer are not going to have us competing against LAL, Dallas, or other teams with dominant big men especially 2 7 footers to go against on the other team.

  • In reply to smiley:

    Exactly, this is why the perimeter scoring needs to be upgraded big time. Teams with a dominate front court will be daring the Bulls to shoot from the perimeter and waiting to dominate the Bulls front court in rebounding when the Bulls shooters miss.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Teams will be looking to pack in the lane against the Bulls cause of the poor shooting. Good scorers would bring those guys from under the basket.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Fellas slow down. You dont trade away a first round pick, especially the Charlotte one, just because of a role player's cyst and some sore hammys/backs. It sucks I know, but we just have to ride it out. We've got to hold onto those first rounders for when Denver calls....

  • NOT GOOD! The Bulls already have scoring issues from the perimeter, now the backup players that they have at the shooting guard spot and who are trying to be made into starters are now coming up lame. Bulls defense and rebounding had better be top notch if no moves are made to address these issues.

  • You left out CJ from your injured list.

  • I totally agree with you Mitch, I don't want Deng playing heavy minutes. His play so obviously declines with anything over 30 minutes that it should be apparent to anyone not named Del Bimbo.

  • I call them Rose and Noah.

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