Chicago Bulls vs Detroit Pistons 7pm on CSN

Is it too early to call game 2 a "must win" for the Bull?  How can a game 2 every really be a must win?    I suppose after the 04/05 team started 0-9 and finished 47-35, there are no real must wins this early, but this one comes as close to qualifying for it as any game would.  

If you've forgotten how ugly the early schedule is, then let me remind you, because this season could fall apart quickly.
Through the end of November:
Oct 30th: Detroit (favored)
Nov 1st: Portland (underdog)
Nov 4th: New York (push?)
Nov 5th: @ Boston (underdog)
Nov 8th: Denver (underdog)
Nov 11th: Golden State (favored)
Nov 13th: Washington (favored)
Nov 16th: @Houston (underdog)
Nov 17th: @San Antonio (underdog)
Nov 19th: @Dallas (underdog)
Nov 23rd: @Lakers (underdog)
Nov 24th: @Phoenix (push?)
Nov 26th: @Denver (underdog)
Nov 27th: @Sacramento (favored)

Granted, some teams may be better or worse than we expect, but without Boozer, I'd give this team 8 underdogs, 4 favoreds, and 2 pushes.   The Detroit game is one in which they're favored, and if things go south there, the Bulls could be in for a real rough start.

My hope was that they could make it through the first 15 games at 7-8.   It'd be a hole in terms of trying to compete for the 3/4 seed, but not an insurmountable one by any stretch of the imagination.    To do that, they need to win all four favored games, both push games, and earn at least one upset.

It's certainly too early to panic, even with a 5-10 start, this team will rebound against the soft schedule that follows with a healthy Boozer and trivially make the playoffs, but if they want to be a second round team instead of a 1st round team then the stakes have been raised, and they need to start looking for more than win totals in the low 40s.   It's critical to get a few of these early games, and that starts with a win against Detroit.

So, keys to beating Detroit? Only three for this game, because this is one the Bulls should put away fairly easily.

1: Don't play down to their level
The Bulls are simply considerably more talented.   Who's the best player on the Pistons?  Rip Hamilton?   Ben Gordon?  Tayshaun Prince?  Rodney Stuckey?   Those four guys are all okay individually but fit horribly with each other and none of them are particularly great.    Their front court doesn't even match up against ours without Boozer, so we should have the advantage all over the court.  

2: Play with energy
The Pistons are coming off a back to back and have several older players, we should run them up and down the floor and make them work all night.

3: Handle your fundamentals
We should be able to dominate the glass against the Pistons as they have a poor front court, and their guards aren't great rebounders either.   If the rebounding edge is even, then the team with the team with better players wins.  That should be us.   On top of rebounding, the Bulls need to make sure not to be careless with the basketball.  Do those two things, and the Bulls should dominate the game.  

I look forward to an easy win for the Bulls home opener. 

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  • Detroit gave Oklahoma a hard time. I guess the coaching staff will be aware of that.

  • HOME-COOKING:

    It needs to be really good this year.

    The Bulls need to be prepared, focused and aggressive in the 1st and 4th for that to happen.

  • And Doug, be more POSITIVE.

    10-5...that's what I'm still looking at.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Your thoughts are comparable to that of those street people that walk around mumbling to themselves. You both say alot but nothing makes sense.

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    And YOUR thoughts are comparable to a high school bully who has nothing to add to an environment besides picking on people. MrHappy has a positive attitude (albeit unrealistic/irrational at times) and that has it's place in this discourse. Keep your stones in your pockets.

  • In reply to adamlweber:

    First of all my comment was meant as humor to a ridiculous comment of a 10-5 record. Second, Happy's ideas DO DOMINATE this thread where he repeats his ideas so often it drives most readera insane and BTW HE BULLIES EVERYONE who does not agree with his ideas so to get on me for giving it back to him once in awhile is laughable.

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    UnstopaBull,

    You have it wrong.

    I don't re-peat ideal. Just FACTS. There's a difference.

    The TRUTH exists in FACTS. Learn the game.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    UnstopaBull,

    And I'm not a bully.

    I can't help it if you or others don't know how to debate.

    LEARN THE GAME!!!

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    and someone actually stood up for you, must have been a relative.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Heres a idea....Leave Derrick Rose in the game alll Game LONG

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    wow... like i said the other day, this year is gonna suck

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    WOW...terrible goaltend call...that was no where near going down

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    I was assuming he had a disability. If not he should keep his unrealistic/irrational comments to 1 per thread.

  • In reply to adamlweber:

    adam,

    Sounds like you have some insecurity issues.

    LEARN THE GAME!!!

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    Schaumburgfan...ya i agree with you...did that ref ever come out with a book or anything? The ref that got caught that is. He could let everyone know what might be going on in the NBA. If the game was called correctly...the league would be different.

    This is another discussion for another day but Kobe Bryant won the MVP last year in the finals....but the games that Kobe played great were the wons the Lakers lost. And the Games that Gasol played great were the ones they won.....BUT WHO GOT THE MVP AT THE END OF THE DAY???? Kobe Bryant did because he is Kobe Bryant. If you remember, Game 7 Kobe played TERRIBLE...he was like 7 for 28 or something like that...i dont know, just something about the NBA really ticks me off nowadays.

    Another thing while were at it...Doug should have a discussion about this too....but does anybody here think that Wade or LeBron should be in the MVP voting this year? If they continue to play how they are...LeBron 15points the other night, Wade 13 vs the Celtics...their averages are going to take a big hit and it should take them away from the MVP correct? Guys like Kobe,Durant etc...should have the edge on them right? And plus, if you have 3 super great talents like that....it should make the game much easier for them, and its not like the opposing team is just trying to stop 1 of them...they have to try to stop all 3. Which imo decreases their value a bit. Thoughts?

  • In reply to adamlweber:

    adamlweber,

    Thanks for the compliment, I guess.

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    Bulls should win this 1...their coming off a back to back i think too. Go ahead and put it to them tonight.

    But what i really want to know is if anybody watched that Magic vs Maimi game last night???? For all the Bulls fans saying we have a major advantage at the center position than Miami...well look no further, the best center in the game played them last night and the Magic still got beat by like 20+ points!!! And the Magic usaully kill the Bulls lol So now what??? This Bulls team as constructed stands NO CHANCE verse Maimi. Trades need to be made...hopefully Gar is talking about getting Iggy or Melo in here soon.

  • In reply to Csharp:

    To add to that. Does anyone know how many points Howard scored in the first half compared to the second half? That would be 19 points in the first and 0 in the second. Yep, 0 points.

    Anyone thinking that we (or anyone else outside of the Lakers) have a snowball's chance to beat Miami in a seven game series is insane, and the Heat still haven't fully figured out how to play together yet. That is a really really scary thought.

  • In reply to Csharp:

    The Magic were playing back-to-back games and the main thing which disappears in the second game is 3-pt shooting which the Magic team is built on. When you miss so many open shots, you give up rebounds to a fast team like Miami. Also, Vince Carter was hurt and they missed a creator. Nelson is a shoot first guard. Not that Carter is a stud, but he is the best they have.
    But that said, this was a spotlight game and the Magic had talked a lot of trash. They should have shown up and given the Heat a game.
    It is too early in the season to be making any conclusions on any team or player. We just need to wait for a minimum of 15-20 games to see a trend.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Especially with regard to the Bulls without Boozer.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    post defense and genreal control of the paint along with telegraphed offensive plays (stare down the guy you are gonna pass to) will be a problem all year. When Derrick runs sets he is easier to pick off than Favre if you watch his eyes. He plays best fast as hell and nearly out of control

  • In reply to drob:

    That was a funny joke!

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    UnstopaBull,

    Don't be jealous. Just learn the game.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    If the Bulls go 10-5 without Boozer then this team should be able to win 60+ games. Dream on buddy.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Happy, you asking to much. it is more like 6-9. Be realistic. At the end of season, with luck, 44-38. BTW, Miami will win about 68 to 71 games. Boston is old and Orlando needs to get Melo. Yea, Melo.

    Finals: Heat vs Lakers

  • In reply to supercesto:

    I think Mr Happy is taking too many Happy pills, but I think you are a bit low on your prediction. I am willing to say that the Bulls will win 46-48 games. I came up with this in two different ways.

    First I went thgrough the schedule picking wins, losses, pushes and came up with 46-47 wins. The second time I just assumed te Bulls would win 2 out of every 3 games they play against "worse" opponents. Then I said they will split the rest of the schedule against tough competition (this includes the like of Miami, LA, but also San Antonio, Milwaukee, etc). Using this formula you get 47-48 wins.

    I think this is reasonable considering the Bulls have talent. They are not elite, but should be very good.

  • In reply to bcz1980:

    bcz,

    Do you want to try some? I have extra.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Prozac, Adderal, and Lithium I presume.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Bigway,

    Skittles actually. Derrick Rose sent them to me.

  • In reply to supercesto:

    Supercesto,

    Optimism...Think positive, like me...haha.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    is that with or without Melo

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Bigway,

    With Melo, Without Dickey Johnson.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    please let boozer get healthy quickly, so rose can stop looking like marbury.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Man im glad we have Luol Deng on this team! HE IS ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE! He is having a hard time getting around TMAC! Get rid of him now before we dont get anything back for him.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    James Johnson needs to be playing more....he has better offensive skills than most of our team.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Bad perimeter shooting leads to bad defense. Poor perimeter shooting will kill this team this season.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Good thing we chose to keep Klank Hinrich over Ben Gordon.....Jeez

  • In reply to Csharp:

    Can't wait to see how many points the Bulls are down to Miami at the half.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    when they play Miami. Gordan a solid perimeter player and ex Bull killing his former team.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    They are getting to the line way too much. The Bulls will lose this game.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    wake me up for jordan's 4th comeback

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Rose doing everything by himself again.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    One word........MELO! no one on this team can provide efficient offense every night except for Derrick and he's our PG.

  • In reply to Vedo:

    Carmelo Anthony anyone?

  • In reply to Vedo:

    whos gonna play defense?

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    What defense? I don't see any defense now.

  • In reply to Vedo:

    exactly...

  • In reply to Vedo:

    how about the bulls take a chance on greg oden, anything is better than this

  • In reply to Vedo:

    Thibs is doing all he can do, this is on the players. No good shooting and bad defense.

  • In reply to Vedo:

    People will start running out of excuses for this team real soon if they keep playing like this. It's just the 2nd game, a lot of new players... YEAH RIGHT!!! EXCUSES EXCUSES...

  • In reply to Vedo:

    bulls getting intimidated at home by a bottom 5 team, i guess that makes the bulls a bottom 3 team

  • In reply to Vedo:

    noah officially turning into brook lopez

  • In reply to Vedo:

    Rose and Noah are good and thats about it lol

    LUOL DENG SUCKS ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But no one wants to get rid of him because he can make a open jumper from time to time....oh and his defense is terrible! Tayshaun Prince is having a night!

    But ya i agree...the players suck...Thibs seems to be trying hard

  • In reply to Vedo:

    rose really doesnt trust any of these jokers, this is a really bad omen

  • In reply to Vedo:

    Bryan Scalabrine probably has more points than Deng right now lol

  • In reply to Vedo:

    this really looks like the 1986 bulls, but rose is no jordan....

  • In reply to Vedo:

    Your best player cant be your PG....we need more talent! TALENT WINS IN THE NBA.....NOT ROLE PLAYERS

  • In reply to Vedo:

    Who is going to be in the draft this year lol

    Rose is the only thing fun about watching these bulls

  • In reply to Vedo:

    Bulls need to get this lead down to 10 by the 4th.

  • In reply to Vedo:

    D ROSE BABY!!!!!!!! He is a freakin STUD! Just think if we had a team around him lol

  • In reply to Vedo:

    I bet there has to be at least one guy in the d-league that can crack the bulls starting 5

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    id say they got one of the worst sg-sf rotations in nba history

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    lol SCALABRINE HAHAHA

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    No one is gonna want Deng in a trade for anybody. He's been playing all summer and still is playing terrible when it comes to NBA play.

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    DROSE FOR SCORING CHAMP!!!!

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    WOW TERRIBLE CALL!!!!!!! AND ROSE DIDNT EVEN TRAVEL!!! THE BALL GOT KNOCKED OUT OF HIS HANDS!!!!

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    wow, these guys are fucked

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    this 2 on 5 mess (rose and noah against 5) will probably get the bulls 1 win out of every 8 games. Add boozer and you play 3 on 5, that'll might add up to 30 wins at the end of the year

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    at least we will make the lottery lol

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    NBA is all about talent....good players wont win you anything

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    kind of ridiculous to see the bulls passing and passing cause nobody take someone of the dribble or hit a contested shot

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    yep i agree lol

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    This is why Taj is expendible...these type of games...i like him as a player but you can get 6 points from a guy in the ymca...(Scalabrine!) lol

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    asik looks like the best new guy on the team

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    James Johnson doing it for MrHappy.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Shakes,

    I love being an inspiration.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Johnson looks like an athlete, deng looks like a 15 year old kid who's getting a handle on his limbs after a big growth spurt

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    HAHAHAHAHA Lol Exactly!

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    how about the bulls secede from the nba and form a league which omits the sg (sg-who woulda thought) position, champs for sure

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    Ya great job by Thibs! Can IGGY Play SG??? Does anyone know??? Hoopshype reports that Iggy wants to come to Chicago...he an Boozer have the same agents i guess.

  • In reply to Csharp:

    you think the sixers are taking deng???

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    I have no clue...but if Iggy is wanting to be traded...we will have to match his salary...and i would think they might need a SF if he leaves.

    Holiday
    Turner
    Deng
    Brand
    Hawes

    That aint bad for them

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    Yep that is the rumor, that Bulls and Sixers have explored possibility of trading Deng for Iguodala. But based on Deng's performance so far, I don't know if the Sixers would take Deng. But Doug Collins used to love Deng during his days on TNT. Not sure if he still loves him though.

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    at least ben gordon showed he wasnt worth a contract either, if only they woulda let them both go...

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    REALITY:

    The Bulls won't be that much better with Iguodala. We all know who they really need.

    SIDE NOTES:

    GarPax have to find a another SHOOTING GUARD.

    - Bogans should be the 3rd SG/SF, not the starter.

    And the same can be said for Kurt Thomas. He needs to be the 3rd PF/C, behind Asik.

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    LOL, couldn't put it better myself. He always seems to lose the ball with minimal contact. He excels at scoring with nobody near him.

  • In reply to DontLetsStart:

    Wonderful adjustments by Coach Thibs! Don't see VDN doing that do you?

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    ASIK IS DA MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    James NEEDS TO PLAY MORE!!!! No Luol Deng in the closing minutes!? lol

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    If we pull this out! WOW

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    I say the bulls buy out deng and start johnson

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    JJ WITH DA NAIL IN THE COFFIN! DENG 2-10 UGGGGHHH

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    BOOOOOOYAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! James Johnson the new starting SF of the Chicago Bulls lol hahahaha!!!!! Noah SWATTED THAT! I wanna see what they are going to say on espn tonight!

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    JJ with the nail in the coffin! Deng 2-10 wow

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    deng must be dying inside

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    Luol Deng is a border line all star lol what are you talkin about haha

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    JJ and DRose MVP's of the game!

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    Luol Deng your job is in jepardy lol Can IGGY play the SG?

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    DROSE CAREER HIGH I THINK?

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    Oh my. What happened to Ben Gordon after scorching the Bulls in the 1st half?

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    still, bulls lucky theey played ther biggest chokers in the league, any decent team woulda won by 30

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    james johnson +23

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    I DECLARE that MRHAPPY must BOW DOWN to JAMES JOHNSON. The is a FACT.

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    that was some pure impact, beyond stats

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    James Johnson isn't DICKEY for 1 night...nice work out there.

    DROSE (career high 39pts....MVP...MVP...MVP...who heard the chants?)

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    ASIK!!!!!!!!!! THERE YOU GO BIG GUY~!!!! get the starters back in now!!!!!!!!!!

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    Rose and Noah need help, I don't care what these other homers say. I would give this team 3 more games and if nothing improves, they need to do something to get Melo to Chicago. They should do everything they can to hold on to Noah, but if things get worst, they might have to pull the trigger with Noah involved.

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    i dont think ive seen a team that gets nothing out of 2 positions

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    ooooh no!!! more CJ Watson....Bulls should start James Johnson instead of Deng lol at least he can create for himself

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    THESE REFS ARE EFFIN STUPID!!!!!!! weak azz hand check

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    at least the bulls dindt sign tmac

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    lol he looks terrible too

  • In reply to Vedo:

    GOOD THING PAXSON HIRED A DEFENSIVE MASTERMIND

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    more concerned by the FA pickups at the moment.

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    that's what we get for getting excited over kyle korver, cj watson, ronnie brewer and kurt thomas. Is that actually better than salmons, hinrich, pargo and brad miller>?? what was everybody smokin

  • In reply to Reese1:

    what's the record for free throws given up on a season, gotta start lookin it up

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Well looks like Deng left his good play in the pre-season, and Gordon left his bad play there. :(

  • In reply to Reese1:

    seriously, can thibodeau be fired already?>

  • In reply to Csharp:

    how about the bulls get a real coach and thibodeau can be his assistant..

  • They may not be significantly better than everyone else right now (although one could make a reasonable argument to the contrary). However, they certainly will be once the big three figured out how to play together consistently and Miller returns to the lineup.

    Their glaring weakness is not having a consistent offensive post presence, but I wonder how much that will really matter in the playoffs with teams not named the Lakers. They did lose to the Celtics, but considering Wade and Bosh were both having a really bad night and James kept them in the game until the last minute, it was pretty impressive.

  • I kind of agree with you about the Celtics. But, the Celtics (at least the past few seasons) is a team built on winning games by playing solid defense, not by outscoring their opponents. So, an 88 point game might be a little low, but not that low.

  • I'm not on the ledge, but simply being realistic. And yes, I can't generalize from one game. I know that.

    You're in the sense that the Magic played the Heat's game. What is slightly alarming, is that the Heat playing the Heat's game only shot 40% and had 17 assists, a pattern that I don't expect to hold up as the season progresses. They are going to be very very good, and I don't think that me pointing that out constitutes me being on the ledge.

  • I would agree that IGGY wouldn't make much of a difference, but to say Melo wouldn't make us compete is just silly. I'm not saying we would be the favorites, but we would give them a run for their money. Let's be fair here.

    Boozer and Bosh is close to a push. James is better than Melo by a good bit. Wade also better than Rose. The rest of our roster would be just as good as theirs. Oh, and I forgot Noah. He is much better than their C.

  • In reply to bcz1980:

    I think Boozer is way more than a push against Jose Carreras(Bosh).

  • I agree! And if anyone has seen LA's schedule the NBA was just as nice to them. Wonder how badly they want MIAMI vs LA !!!!

  • Haha. You may have been taking a subconscious shot at the Heat, a team that consists of a few well known "brats."

  • Quick predictions for the game.

    Rose: 21pts, 8 ast, 1 to
    Noah: 14reb, 11pts
    Deng: 23pts, including 2 of 4 from downtown and 5 of 7 FT
    Brewer: Still looks like sh*t, hope not but that's my gut
    Korver: gets many open looks, 4 of 9 overall 2 of 4 3pts

    Bulls give us a victory and free BIGMACs!! 104-91

  • Will anyone here be at the game tonight?

  • Do you think that is why the Bulls play so many back to back sets? Is the United Center less available to the Bulls than any other team on average? With all the circus events, ice shows, & blackhawks games I would imagine that to be the case.

  • And that is partially the reason why the last couple years i have thought that the NBA is somehwat RIGGED! The league is about MAKING MONEY and bringing in VIEWERS. The champions from the year before gets a schedule that is very much in their favor (its been that way). The Stars in the league get all the calls...Kobe gets sneezed on, its a foul call. Brian Scalabrine gets hacked in the lane an theres no call. Home Court advantage is probably the most impactful its ever been. Its like playing 5 on 6 nowadays. An like i said....its about Money and Viewers...so whats going to get the most money an viewers??? The most hated team in the league going against the defending Champs. Everybody will watch and hope the Heat lose.

  • In reply to Csharp:

    On top of it, you have the referee scandals. And David Stern is known as that type compared to the other top guys.
    That said, we all cried about the FT discrepancy the Thunder had on their homecourt. They seemed to be doing the same thing in Detroit too. I am not sure some of this is looking through rose-colored glasses...

  • PREDICTIONS-

    Rose- 25points 6assist 4 reb
    Noah- 14pts 16rebs
    Deng- 17-18 6-7reb

    Bulls win and get big macs like bcz said lol

  • Tyrus and Doug,

    We'll see.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    ...mmm.

  • People do realize that Orlando played Miami on a back-to-back, right?

    Relax and don't over-react.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Mr. Happy responded to one of my comments. Life is complete.

  • In reply to bryield:

    bry,

    To be apart of your bucket list...I'm honored.

  • You are right. I didn't put much thought. But then again, why I should over-analyze what it is obvious? We are better with Boozer but also the east is better too. plus, minus, blah, blah, blah...Maybe 50 with NOBODY getting injured. 44 is just safe.

  • I agree with you completely, the scary thing is that if this team doesn't win 50-55, then TT is a much worse coach than we think, or Del Bimbo was somehow much better than he appeared to be.

  • The thing that scares me watching them a little bit so far is that they look like they will be a very good or even great defensive team, and rebounding does not appear to be an issue. I could see Lebron averaging 9-10 rpg.

    I still say the Lakers take them in the finals, and the Celtics give them all that they can handle in the ECF

    The question becomes do we root for the elimanation of the mid level exception in the new CBA. If it stays Miami will become better every year, and nearly unbeatable.

    However, without it(the MLE) we cannot improve our team except by trade or from within, and we are just not good enough.

  • NO, but their defense has been much better than expected and that could be scary good.

    The 3 Tenors are only averaging 50 something a game. I think that anyone would take that going into a game with them, yet they still smoked Orlando a high scoring team, and would/should have beat the Celtics if it wasn't game 1(the Celtics played like it was game 7 of the finals) and Wade was in game shape.

  • lol

  • LMAO!!!

  • Mithell,

    FYI...

    As I said, Sam Young is the THIRD SG behind Mayo and Allen. Or he's the THIRD SF behind Gay and Henry.

    It is what it is. I'd take him on the Bulls.

    OPENING NIGHT:

    When given quality minutes, Sam Young came up with 17 points, 5 rebounds, 3 steals, 2 assists and 1 block on 8/12 FG Shooting vs. the Atlanta Hawks.

    LEARN THE GAME!!!

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    dickey johnson looks like a potentially monster defensive player

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Mitchell, CSharp, and MON,

    Let's not OVER-REACT. Instead, try LEARNING THE GAME.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    1. What's wrong with Deng? Is his game all screwed up because he is trying to shoot 3s? Even the "worst case" Deng used to shoot the jumpers pretty well.
    2. I hope our free agency haul this summer is not a strikeout. Brewer, Korver, Watson all look bad. Hopefully Boozer's year is not screwed by his injury. We know he can play but I am concerned about him trying to prove he is some great stud and then struggling...plus there seems to be a "UTAH curse" on Chicago.
    3. JJ needs to be at SG or as a wing player for 20 min from now on even if he makes mistakes. The guy needs some time to develop his game. He is going to be a good trade bait at worst but probably can be a future rotation player if given a chance.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    schaum,

    PLEASE STOP saying JJ needs to be the SG.

    He's a SF.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    He is a guy who can play multiple positions. It's in your head that he is a SF. Depending on the match-ups, he can play 3 positions. He is quick, can handle the ball, shoot the 3, play decent defense, rebound...he can play SG. But that said, he is young and erratic...he needs confidence and I hope Thibs give him consistent minutes.
    Doesn't matter what you think...most Bulls fans think he can develop into a viable rotation player who can contribute.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    schaum,

    It's not in my head.

    James Johnson is a SF. Go look up his draft write-up.

    Heck, go look up JJ's interview for the Sacramento Kings. He even admits he's a SF in the NBA. So does Matt Lloyd, the Bulls scouting director. And so does Paxson, Forman and Thibodeau for that matter.

    You are the one who had it in your head that JJ is a SG.

    That's your fantasy, not mine.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    JAMES JOHNSON:

    It's just one game.

    Let's not OVER-REACT people. The Bulls still need a SG or top level SF.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    im all for melo, go give the nuggets front office some crack and maybe theyll pull the trigger

  • In reply to ixonflex69:

    ixon,

    I have some happy pills for them.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Not if you include preseason ;). He has shown marked improvement this year!

  • In reply to claytonabigsby:

    Clayton,

    With all do respect, JJ had an UP and DOWN pre-season, a bad Summer League and a non-existent Rookie year.

    CONSISTENCY...that's what I'm looking for from both the Bulls' SF's.

    CONSISENTLY GOOD for that matter. It's not there yet.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    KC JOHNSON:

    What do you know? KC JOHNSON had his info. wrong again.

    http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/10/thibodeau-hints-at-asik-sitting-vs-pistons.html

    Thank goodness.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    BTW, please I hope they don't trade for Igoudala. He is like an bigger, athletic Hinrich. We need somebody who can play offense and decent defense rather than the other way around. I think even Deng is better than Igoudola on offense but obviously sucking in the last 2 games.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Dear James Johnson,

    I am sorry... I take it all back.

    LOL but seriously, he had a good game tonight wont make too much of it but I will say I would like to see him play like that more often.

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