Updated Bulls salary cap [post Brewer / Watson]

With the Bulls cap number remaining sourced to me at 11.8 million after the Redick signing, I've calculated the Korver/Boozer contracts as flat as it makes the numbers work out nearly exactly. That may not be the case as either could be off by some amount, but for our cap space this year, it works out fine, so even if they are off, it shouldn't effect the rest of the calculation.

Using the rumors of Brewer on a 3 year 12.5 million dollar deal and C.J. Watson signing for two years 6.5 million with a third non-guaranteed year (per KC's twitter), I've made two separate calculations for the Bulls remaining space, one is for the most possible and one is for the least possible, obviously, somewhere in between is also possible.

That gives the Bulls salaries looking something like this:

Player Least Salary Most Salary
Carlos Boozer $15,200,000 $15,200,000
Luol Deng $11,345,000 $11,345,000
Derrick Rose $5,546,160 $5,546,160
Kyle Korver $5,000,000 $5,000,000
Joakim Noah $3,128,536 $3,128,536
James Johnson $1,713,600 $1,713,600
Taj Gibson $1,117,680 $1,117,680
Omer Asik $1,234,568 $1,234,568
Ronnie Brewer $3,858,025 $4,528,986
C.J. Watson $3,125,000 $3,385,417
Vet Min $473,604 $473,604
Vet Min $473,604 $473,604
Total: $52,215,777 $53,147,155
Salary Cap: $58,044,000 $58,044,000
Cap Remaining $5,828,223 $4,896,845

Given the way the Bulls have set up contracts for Boozer/Korver, I wouldn't be surprised if these deals are frontloaded. With ten players on the roster, and everyone except James Johnson expected to have a role on the team, they have little need to maximize cap room available.

With many teams sitting on trade exceptions and cap space right now, there's unlikely to be great deals available at the deadline for teams wanting to shed salary. There are too many teams who can take it on, and there isn't the massive FA class to get under the cap for this off-season, so I don't expect them to try and maximize cap room for flexibility.

edit ---

K.C. Johnson is reporting 4.5 million left in cap room for the team now.   That's not possible based on the previous estimate I had at 11.8 million unless the 11.8 million I was told was not the amount the Bulls could spend on a single player, but rather the amount they had total under the cap remaining for the whole roster.

If that's the case, Boozer's contract could be considerably more front loaded, likely starting at the max salary and descending.   It will be interesting to see how all these numbers shapes out when the actual deals leak in a few months.  

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  • Thanks for the update.

  • Doug, the NBA minimum roster is 13 players, not 12 like you used in your calculation. If you tack on an addition $473k for the 13th player, you get close to KC's available cap number of $4.5 mil.

    Also, don't the Bulls normally keep 15 players on their roster?

  • The Team USA Camp is gonna be on NBATV @ 2ct. Maybe we'll see Rose's new 3pt range?

  • Thanks for the clarification

  • I say a large chunk of the rest of the cash will either go to Shaq, Josh Howard, or Tmac. If we land Shaq, id love for us to sign Rasual Butler if we could. If we get Howard or Tmac...probably just adding a big body down low like Samuels from our summer league team is what we might do. Shaq is the best available big out there, plus we could deff. use him in the playoffs. Bulls also will be major players in the free agency market in 3 years. All these contracts will be off the books again.

  • In reply to Csharp:

    I don't see the Bulls going after any of the former great players with attitude issues. The Bulls seem to have put together a bunch of good guys with a team first attitude. These former all-stars would ruin the chemistry.

  • 14-MAN ROSTER:

    PG - Rose/Watson/Lucas
    SG - Brewer/?/Byars or Bouldin or Almond
    SF - Deng/Korver/
    PF - Boozer/Gibson/Samuels
    C - Noah/?/Asik

    Ideally, I would like to see the Bulls' brass trade Dickey Johnson for a young SG (S.Young, X. Henry, W. Ellington, C. Brewer, N. Young or R. Fernandez) and sign a back-up Center (Shaq, E. Thomas, K. Thomas or C. Hunter).

    If the Bulls' brass could pull that off, then that would round out the roster nicely.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    These are interesting ideas. I wonder why you haven't suggested any of this until now.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    haha, i was gonna post something like that comment

  • In reply to ZombieKevie:

    Well, when you have repeated blog topics you get repeated answers.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    Asik cant shoot? Thats false adverstising as far as Im concerened.

    Thats a problem. Spacing in the lane is key with D Rose...otherwise if the Defense doest respect the perimeter shooting, they can help out much more when Rose inevitably shakes his man one on one.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    It would only be a problem if Noah and Asik were on the floor together. Even then with other shooters on the floor (Korver, Watson) it could be spaced enough for Rose to operate. Then we have two bigs to crash the boards and clean up the garbage. This lineup can work in spurts. Although it likely will be Noah/Boozer Taj/Asik mostly which should still be fine given Taj's 10-12ft jumper is good.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    without doing research of any kind, am I safe to assume that Asik can shoot from the perimter (being that his is a white, euro ball player?)

    I like the idea of our bigs being able to step out to clear the lane so D Rose can drive and dish...or drive and finish.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    You should do your research. He percentage from the free throw line is just horrible. Under 40% in most of the leagues he has played in. So I'm assuming if he cannot shoot a stand still free throw with any consistency, he isn't going to step out and be hitting 15-20 footers. I read scouting reports on him and they said his only offense is lay-ups, dunks, and stuff around the basket. He doesn't seem too polished on the offensive end

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Watching highlights of Asik....he is more of a garbage man then anything, rebounds, blocks shots, tips ins, dunks. Many people say he is very similair to Noah. He also has very good athleticism from what i saw on the highlights. He does have a decent touch around the rim too though...from what i have seen. I havent seen much of him shooting jumpers.

    IMO...if the Bulls add Shaq to this team...you are a title contender. We have no beef downlow! We need somebody big down there. Shaq can come in play 15-16 min a night, foul hard, block shots, rebound, score easy points, draw fouls. An main thing....gaurd big centers once the playoffs come. boozer,Noah,Taj,Asik....none of those guys can guard Dwight.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Actually the Bulls should trade JJ and cash to Memphis for Xavier Henry. There seems to be a significant problem between Memphis and Henry. Henry could compliment Brewer the defensive 2 guard as the shooting 2 guard.

    At this point I would be thrilled by this move.

    Secondly, we need to look at Deeks boy Romain Sato.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Part of that problem is Henry. He refused to play in the summer league.

    That's not normal. Usually guys wait until they've been in the league awhile before they start causing trouble. Causing trouble before your first game? He's a real pioneer.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Bulls have been talking to Tmac, Josh Howard and Shaq...i bet we walk away with 1 of those guys. I say either Shaq or Tmac. TMac still has plenty of game, check out some highlights of him on the Knicks on youtube. He still has game, plus he has been working really hard this summer. I wouldnt mind him if he came here with the right mindset. You are not a superstar anymore.

    Shaq fills a need an hes the best out there. Bulls might be ablee to land Shaq an then grab Rasual Butler as well.

    Or we trade James Johnson for cash or something an try to land Shaq an Tmac.

  • In reply to Csharp:

    I'll bet you Mr Happys left nut that none of those guys ever comes close to being a Bull.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Assuming he has any to bet....mmm.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    If Asik can do what they say he can do with good to better lat quicks and shot blocking i.e defend well and get opportunity baskets, and run well on the break then that means he's a valuable backup at center IMO. Except for the fact that his horrid foul shooting belies many guys who can't cut it in the league, and also means other teams can get the ball back by hack-a-Shaqing him in the fourth quarter/end of ball games. However, as for possessing all those valuable skills I'll believe that when I see it like anyone else who is unproven in the league.

    Side note: realizing most undrafted players never make it, I'd have to do whatever it takes to make sure nobody swipes the rights to Samardo Samuels. I don't even know how that works if invitees have right of first refusal by the team they played for in Summer League?? But Samuels looked as solid as any non-star/top pick I've watched in the low post/blocks in Summer League play. Plus his quickness to me defensively in the lane looked decent to better. And more importantly he had the "I belong" presence all the way. Let's at least make sure we invite him to preseason camp, and unless he dispells his impressive/effective post scoring capabilities there sign him to a min or slightly above contract.

  • NEEDS:

    The Bulls brass still has to find a #2 Shooting Guard and a #2 Center.

    * Kyle Korver is not a #2 SG and Omer Asik is not a #2 Center.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    For once, you make some sense. But it is easier said than done. I don't know if there is a #2 Center or SG?
    What does our #2 SG has to do?
    1. Shoot 3's and jumpshots at a good rate..(much better than Ronnie Brewer)
    2. Need to be atleast 6-3/6-4...
    3. Need to defend reasonably well and not be a liability.
    4. Should be able to bring up the ball a little bit..
    I think Korver can reasonably do these but he is a SF and definitely not quick to defend smaller SGs..
    The only realistic ones are Flip Murray, Rudy F, Sato..

    #2 Center for the Bulls:
    1. Need to shoot FTs(atleast 70%)
    2. Be able to shoot occasional 3s and jumpers.
    3. Big Body who can atleast slow down centers like Perkins, Shaq, Howard...doubtful about the quickness to defend Howard..

    Options: 1.Josh Boone 2. Anthony Tolliver 3.Kurt Thomas
    Obviously Brad Miller would have been the ideal choice but he is no longer there....

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    schaum,

    I make sense all the time. Just read my posts more often.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    If the link below(the painted area blogspot) is an accurate description of Asiks abilities then he is just about the perfect backup to Noah and a legit #2 center.

    The guys who wrote it sounds like he has seen Asik play more than any of us including Mr. Happy, so I will take his word for now.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    SG can be filled by committee...both Korver and Watson can backup the SG spot. Now our focus only needs to be adding another BIG.

    Possible lineups:
    1. rose, brewer, deng, boozer, noah
    2. rose, watson, korver, taj, noah
    3. watson, korver, deng, boozer, noah
    4. watson, brewer, korver, taj, noah

    The theme is that Noah needs a solid backup b/c I doubt Asik is the guy. The SG/SF spot can be handled by committee now.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Just need some clarification from you guys.

    Why all 3 year contracts? Is the summer or 2013 going to be similar to 2010 and the Bulls want to clear cash just in case?

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Summer of 2013 is when Rose's draft class become unrestricted free agents. In addition to Rose, that class included Mayo, Lopez, Love, Gordon, Westbrook, Gallinari, etc.

    The more likely reasons are (a) the Bulls know they need to conserve cash for Rose's max contract, and (b) there's uncertainty on what will happen with the new CBA.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Is that Eddie House thing legit? I saw it as a headline on espn rumors. Where did you see it. He could help spread the floor a bit.

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    Signing Eddie House would seem to be redundant after trading for Watson given that they're both combo guards. When Brewer rests, we'd have to play some combination of Rose, Watson, House, and Korver, which would be horrible on defense.

    I know House played for Thibs on the Celts, but he was played the Vinnie Johnson, instant offense off the bench role there. Tony Allen was the defensive stopper.

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    Is espn saying were close to signing House?

  • In reply to Csharp:

    csharp,

    Do more than read the rumor section on ESPN's website when making a point.

  • In reply to Csharp:

    QUESTION:

    Did the Bulls trade for SAM YOUNG yet? Just let me know.

    wink.

  • In reply to Csharp:

    SHAQ:

    With the absense of Hinrich and Miller, who brought veteran leadership to the team, should the Bulls' brass sign SHAQ to fill those voids?

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    I do not want them to get House....too small n moody. Kurt Thomas n Flip Murray both of whom can play more than one spot in a pinch...both understand the game n do not bitch n moan a lot.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    I'm all for House, but House and Watson? They're both PGs who play like SGs. Other than House being a long-range guy, they would be pretty redundant in terms of minutes/roles.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    We need a backup SG and a backup C now.

    For the SG position...we can kind of fill it with all the depth. So if we do sign Eddie House...i dont mind it at all. I wouldnt mind Rasual Butler either...he's 6'7 and thats why i put him before House.

    As for the C position...we need somebody that can hold down the paint. A big body that can keep Dwight,Perkins,Yoa etc..out of the lane. When Dwight is further out from the paint...his percentages drastically go down. That why i say Shaq is the man for the job. If he is willing to take a backup role that is. Is he accept it...the Bulls will be scary.

    Wade,Bron,Bosh all can opt out of their contracts too in 3 years...so this whole free agency thing might happen again in 3 years.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    This team can beat the Heat imo....

    Rose, CJ Watson, Bouldin?
    Brewer, Eddie House (if Rumors are true), Morris Almond
    Deng,Korver, James Johnson
    Boozer,Taj, Asik
    Noah, Shaq, Asik

    That might be the deepest team in the league.

  • In reply to Csharp:

    csharp,

    It seems like Lucas will be the 3rd PG, not Bouldin.

    Bouldin, Byars and Almond could fight it out for 3rd SG.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I've been trying to figure out how I feel about Asik. I asked Kc Johnson via twitter if his ceiling was a good rotation player and he told me the Bulls are quietly confident for that in first season. Next I saw this article to shed some light on Asik. http://thepaintedarea.blogspot.com/2010/07/bulls-sign-omer-asik-at-cut-rate-price.html

    Can he be a serviceable back-up? Or is everyone writing him off as a bad Euro player from the start?

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Bulls are close to signing Eddie House.

  • In reply to joeacook3:

    M.O.N.

    Says who? CJ Watson was the combo-guard they went after.

    They don't need EHOUSE now.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    You've never seen Asik play in your life.

  • In reply to DanFrystak:

    Dan,

    I have seen Asik play. He's not a #2 Center, not in the NBA at least.

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    (apologize if this is a repost)

    Boozer - Gibson - Samuels...look at that murderer's row at power forward. Unbelievable. Maybe we can now finally go into the post and hold a lead. Not only is this team going to win games but maybe just maybe the wont give bulls fans heart attacks in the process.

  • In reply to Redwhitenblack:

    not quite the 27 Yankees

  • Morrow from what I have heard is as bad or worse defensively as Korver. At the least, Korver is taller and has a higher shooting percentage.
    But the point is not just offense when this #2 SG subs for Brewer...it is, if they can defend the other team's SG reasonably well and not make a shot for shot contest.
    If Korver can do that...he can be our #2 SG but it might need some imaginative defense from the team when Korver is playing the SG position..

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    I have to assume that Morrow at a minimum has the requiset athleticism to play with 2 guards.

    Korver, unfortunately plays defense as if he has a piano strapped to each foot not just on his back.

  • My gut tells me that we(Bulls fans) will really regret not going after Morrow.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Bigway,

    I liked him too. And the price wasn't too bad.

  • Doug, I like to analyze college prospects, and evaluate known commodities. I have read the CBA rules before, but honestly I just don't have the time(kids, wife, jobe etc. or inclination) to keep up with that aspect. Plus I'm much better with stats then the wheretofores of a verbose, legal document.

    Simply, keeping in mind Derrick and Joakim resigning with major raises if the Bulls made it to the hallmark of 50 wins or higher, and made it through two rounds to the ECF with Derrick averaging at least say 23-24 ppg(progressing steadily to superstar status) would that be enough for Jerry Reinsdorf to resolve himself to paying the luxury tax for at least one season if it meant not dismantling/parting with any quality/depth pieces simply for cost cutting sake?

  • Sorry for the re-post...

  • Doug,

    What's Korver's natural position? That would be SF.

  • ...mmm.

  • MRHappy, what was that comment for? Im at work dude an i was simply asking if espn was reporting us signing Eddie House or not? Do research before i make a point lol I was asking a question not making any points....you should read post before responding back to them... your ridiculous

    IMO....Shaq='s title contender
    Kurt Thomas='s 3rd 4th best in east

  • In reply to Csharp:

    csharp,

    I'm moody today...sorry.

    My point was that I wouldn't rely on the rumor section on ESPN's website.

  • KORVER vs SALMONS...and the affect on DICKEY JOHNSON:

    Essentially, isn't Kyle Korver just replacing John Salmons in the rotation?

    I'd say yes. They are both SG/SF, but much better at the SF position in the NBA.

    How does that affect Dickey Johnson?

    Last year, Dickey couldn't get on the floor because he was behind Deng and Salmons at SF. Well, the same thing is about to happen this year. I don't see Dickey getting much floor time because he'll be playing behind Deng and Korver.

    Thus, it makes sense to TRADE DICKEY JOHNSON and acquire a young SG in return.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Is there anyone in particular you had in mind?

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    He has in mind that YOUNG SG/SF who is actually much better at the SF position but he thinks he is better at SG. This young player will also be behind Deng/Korver and is as unproven as James Johnson and has less upside than James Johnson. Basically, we trade crap for crap...

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    DEJA VU:

    2009-2010 Bulls' Roster...

    SG - Kirk Hinrich
    SF - LuolDeng/John Salmons/Dickey Johnson

    2010-2011 (PROJECTED) Bulls' Roster...

    SG - Ronnie Brewer
    SF - Luol Deng/Kyle Korver/Dickey Johnson

    Unless the Bulls' brass wants to keep being MEDIOCRE, they better find another SG.

    TIP: Trade Dickey Johnson for one.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    So let me follow your logic. Johnson is so bad, he doesn't belong in the league, yet we can trade him for a SG good enough to prevent us from being MEDIOCRE.

  • In reply to muhammond:

    PJ,

    "Someonelse's trash in another one's treasure."

    Dickey Johnson is not trash, but he can't develop being the 3rd SF on the Bulls. There are a handful of young SG's who are in the same position with their teams.

    I have listed those guys before, so I don't need to do again.

    All I'm saying is, the Bulls need a #2 SG, more then having three SF's.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I don't recall ever seeing what shooting guards you believe to be available.

    Would you mind giving us a list?

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    Well, at least you like Matt Bouldin without watching any summer league. It's funny how the Bulls have shared your same interest. At least Mr. Happy knows these guys and is throwing options out there girl. What do you think of our SG situation?

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Is this Mrs. Happy?

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    Can't be...no caps.....mmm.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    I think the Bulls mistake is not coming up with more creative trade options.

    For example, We'll trade James Johnson and our 1992 championship banner for Rudy Fernandez.

    Sometimes you've got to sweeten the pot, guys.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    That sweetens the pot? Lol...I think the Luvabulls would be of more value to them then one of our banners! LOL

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Tmac off the bench would be a great addition. This guy is still better then half of guys in the league.Check his games online from last year. He was still good and he wasnt even in shape and he didnt even play for about a year and half. He has been working hard this summer, id give him a cheap 2 year contract...if he does good his 1st year, then your risked payed off an you get him cheap for another year. Shoot, Reinsdorf said he would pay for a winner....then go get Shaq too. You wouldnt be in the luxury by that much plus your a legit contender and the deepest team in the league. Why wait to contend when you can contend right now with your young players starting still.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Ok #1Bullsfan, how about James Johnson and a 'game worn' pair of Michael Jordan shoes?

    Come on............you know you wanna....

  • In reply to Dmband:

    I agree though....James Johnson can be traded for cash all i care lol We have to many guys that can play the SF spot right now. Turn him into a SG or draft pick or cash imo.

    As for Tmac being a cancer to locker room....im not sure about that claim. Hes never had a big outburst in any locker room that i can remember. Only problem he had was with Houston and his knee problem. But as far as being a good teammate, ive never heard anything bad about him.

    Josh Howard on the other hand has admittedly said he smokes weed during the offseasons. And i think he has a video out their on youtube that showed him not standing for the saying of the national athem or something lol Who knows. I think Howard would probably be more of a cancer then Tmac. Plus Howard is just coming off his injury also.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I actually wouldn't mind having TMac come off the bench and back up Brewer. The guy has something to prove. If we can get him at a good price and if he'd be willing to come off the bench, why not bring him in?

  • In reply to Vedo:

    Vedo,

    To be honest, I'm skeptical about was TMAC has left in the tank.

    I'd rather the Bulls' brass find a younger SG via trade.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Why didnt lucas play the last 2 games? I heard he was a big time ball hog during summer league too.

  • In reply to Csharp:

    csharp,

    Maybe the Bulls' brass was trying to hide him. Who knows?

  • Doug,

    I didn't guarantee a thing.

    But I did know that they would be going after Wade and Bosh hard.

    The result seems like it was pre-planned though.

    It is what it is.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    You said all three we're coming to Chicago. As is your custom, you said this repeatedly.

    You also repeatedly said that you knew something followed by "...mmm."

    Thankfully, evilhoban has kept the "...mmm" alive.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    Who?...mmme?

    :)

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    JOHN LUCAS III:

    via Marc Stein...

    A season together with the Yao Ming-owned Shanghai Sharks in China did wonders for John Lucas

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    And are you suggesting that you were the only one who thought the Bulls would go after Wade and Bosh?

    Really. A team with $30m in cap space pursued some of the top free agents available? Your powers of deduction are superhuman. Without you, no one else would have saw that coming.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    All kidding aside, Mr. Crappy, you did act like you had some inside knowledge....and as usual you made a total ass out of yourself while destroying whatever minuscule amount of credibility you had (and this is BEFORE you decided to dry hump Sam Young's leg).

    "You don't even get a crummy copy of our home game....you're a complete LOSER!!!!"

  • lol iiight no prob

  • Id agree though....James Johnson should be traded now for extra cap space or a good player in return. We have so much depth right now, James probably wont even see the floor. Or we just stash him in the Dleague...dont know how much that will help him though.

  • I get it about Memphis. They're trying to start a new trend. Why now and why with him?

    That being said, from what I've read, it's not uncommon for draft picks to play in the summer league without a contract. He still could have played.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    His agent advised him not to.

  • In reply to mdot1986:

    Well, I don't care about the why's where's or who's. As long as there is an opportunity the Bulls should pounce.

    I bet that JJ and cash would get it done. $1.5 million is half the going rate for a first round pick and would just about cover Johnsons salary.

  • TRACY MCGRADY:

    via Marc Stein...

    The Clippers do have legit interest in McGrady and are scheduled to work him out Tuesday. As Clips general manager Neil Olshey told ESPNLosAngeles.com

  • OK,thanks for the info. Honestly if Derrick blossoms(23-24 ppg, 9 assists, 4 or above boards) with IMO the major increased offensive talent level around him, then I think we very well could end up in the ECF.

    Really as importantly as it is for him to improve at drawing and creating contact for 6 or more trips to the line(and jawing for respect calls from the refs like all the big time scorers do), I think his defense becoming consistently solid/not a liability is just as important. That is if he is going to build momentum continuously without taking it back down on the D end. He does that, and the team will follow him(and follow Joakim).

  • It also might depend on the new CBA and it might impact the Bulls differently than what we anticipate.

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    Damnit can we just sign t-mac already? I think he'd be a great add but that's not the point. I'm sick of reading McGrady to Bulls rumors. Seriously, it's been a decade of this. It's like that ugly girl your mo keeps saying over and over you shouldtake to dinner...I cant take it anymore. Let's just sign him and see if he puts out.

  • In reply to Redwhitenblack:

    hilarious.

  • Mitchell,

    What makes the Bulls better in the short-term and long-term, a younger SG, Fernandez or Young or an older SG, like McGrady or Butler?

  • Redwhitenblack,

    Careful what you wish for.

  • jus because she put out doesnt mean it will be good. she may be infected.

  • Mitchell,

    I agree. I don't really see us making any trades. A lot of teams want Taj in a deal and I don't think we are willing to give him up. I think we just need to add one more of those shooters at a good price and see if we can somehow get another big just to back up Noah. Asik backing up Noah is not enough IMO.

  • Mitchell,

    The Bulls gave him his shot in Summer League, so that should count for something. Hopefully, he doesn't sign with the COWARDS OF MIAMI squad.

  • bullybull,

    Safety first.

  • If you want Tracy McGrady's current status summed up just google Knicks McGrady. Sorry, unbelievably I don't know how to post links. But the N.Y Times article states what seems generally acknowledged that he's simply "a decent 30 yr old backup."

    You'd think someone might take a gamble on the knee getting better possibly, but his delusions of grandeur, self-adoring quotes would make me steer a mile clear of him with a young, still somewhat unestablished core like Derrick and Joakim. It will be enough to gell all these new personalities, and see if Joakim and Derrick are up to the challenge of establishing their leadership through both their play and their actions: how they carry themselves.

    As many NBA media talking heads have said, and I have to agree on this one, Tracy McGrady is a lockeroom cancer for hire.

    If I really wanted to take a chance on a recently somewhat star caliber talent with anti-social tendencies that has taken a fall sweepstakes might I suggest Josh Howard. Especially if available for say $3 Mil, and with Deng somewhat regularly dinged. Unless there's a consensus that his knee is permanently damaged. But warning he will need a major weed connection set up by the time he relocates here.

    Seriously we could use a big if not Josh "I Love America" Howard. But hopefully someone else is out there besides 37 yr old Kurt Thomas. And Shaq if ever there was an overbearing, disrupting cancer he'd be 1a to McGrady's 1.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    sorry this stupid thing jammed/double posted

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    REPORT:

    I guess we now know why Golden State traded CJ Watson to the Bulls.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5396732&campaign=rss&source=DALLASHeadlines

  • If you want Tracy McGrady's current status summed up just google Knicks McGrady. Sorry, unbelievably I don't know how to post links. But the N.Y Times article states what seems generally acknowledged that he's simply "a decent 30 yr old backup."

    You'd think someone might take a gamble on the knee getting better possibly, but his delusions of grandeur, self-adoring quotes would make me steer a mile clear of him with a young, still somewhat unestablished core like Derrick and Joakim. It will be enough to gell all these new personalities, and see if Joakim and Derrick are up to the challenge of establishing their leadership through both their play and their actions: how they carry themselves.

    As many NBA media talking heads have said, and I have to agree on this one, Tracy McGrady is a lockeroom cancer for hire.

    If I really wanted to take a chance on a recently somewhat star caliber talent with anti-social tendencies that has taken a fall sweepstakes might I suggest Josh Howard. Especially if available for say $3 Mil, and with Deng somewhat regularly dinged. Unless there's a consensus that his knee is permanently damaged. But warning he will need a major weed connection set up by the time he relocates here.

    Seriously we could use a big if not Josh "I Love America" Howard. But hopefully someone else is out there besides 37 yr old Kurt Thomas. And Shaq if ever there was an overbearing, disrupting cancer he'd be 1a to McGrady's 1.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    "Chicago is where those close to McGrady say he

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