While the majority of the talk of recent days has been about possible free agent guard options, there still exists a need for an extra big men. The Bulls currently only have four, of whom three (Carlos Boozer, Joakim Noah and Taj Gibson) figure to take the majority of the minutes. The fourth (Omer Asik) is something of a project still, recovering from injuries of his own and short of high level professional experience.
In the interests of safety, therefore, there ought really be some insurance there. Particularly if Carlos Boozer misses significant time due to injury (although this only seems to happen in lottery seasons, which hopefully we're not having.)
Kurt Thomas has been mentioned as a candidate, as has Anthony Tolliver. Last year's occasionally useful backup Brad Miller is now off the table, and even Bulls summer leaguer Samardo Samuels is gone, joining up with the Cleveland Cavaliers. With signings such as Jamaal Magloire (Miami) and Craig Smith (L.A. Clippers) also going down, the free agent crop just got thinner.
Here's what's left on it.
(Note: both power forwards and centres are listed - including some power forwards best suited to small forward - although a centre is more desirable at the moment. Players listed in no order other than alphabetical.)
Malik Allen - Our old boy Malik has been plying his trade with the Nets, Mavericks, Bucks and Nuggets since leaving here. He has consistently not added to his game, demonstrating little else but a pick-and-pop jumpshot and an aversion to physical defense. Last year, he wasn't even good at the shooting part, shooting only .397% and doing his usual act of taking only 13 free throws all season. At the very least, you know what you're getting from Malik Allen. I reared back for a compliment there, but that's all I could find.
Louis Amundson - Amundson is way too good to be any team's fifth man. But for whatever reason, this free agency market doesn't seem to know that. You could make a legitimate argument that Amundson outperformed Taj Gibson last year, and the two are certainly comparable players. Amundson doesn't have a mid-range jumpshot as good as Taj's - although it's not bad - but he's of a comparable size, a slightly better rebounder, a better shot-blocker and a better pick-and-roll option. He's in his prime and fresh out of Phoenix, which can be bad for a man's numbers, but he is better than a minimum salary 11th man. The boy showed last year that he can play. Someone should let him do this.
Earl Barron - Despite their free agency plan, the Knicks never renounced Earl Barron. They did this because they intend to re-sign him for more than the minimum; in 7 games last season, Barron averaged 12/11. Barron is a big old boy - 7 foot, about 250lb - who only really wants to use that size to get off mid-range jumpshots. He has great touch on that shot and is a pretty polished offensive player, but he's not a physical defender, and nor is he normally a good rebounder. Those numbers from last season were the exception, not the rule. Barron is good enough to be in the NBA, but if it's not going to be for the minimum salary, then it's almost certainly not going to be here.
Maceo Baston - A former Bulls draft pick, Baston's NBA redux between 2007 and 2009 didn't see him play a whole lot, but he did do quite well in the time that he did get. Last season was his worst season, yet even Baston's worst season was pretty good; he averaged 2.5 points and 2 rebounds in 8 minutes per game, and his PER was 12.3. His career PER is 14.4, too, which makes you wonder why he's only played 831 NBA minutes in three and a bit seasons. He didn't play in the NBA last year and is now 35 years old, but he's always been productive. And, in the NBA at least, he's always been overlooked too.
Esteban Batista - Batista's two years in the NBA saw him do nothing but offensive rebound and foul. He then won a place in fan's hearts for his performances with the Uruguayan national team against the USA, including an alley-oop dunk over Amare Stoudemire. Batista has been in Europe since leaving the NBA, with mixed results, and he continues to offensive rebound and foul. He couldn't get any shots off in the NBA and was too slow to keep up, but his jumpshot has improved in his time in Europe, which might help.
Jonathan Bender - Last season, Bender came out of retirement at the ripe old age of 28 to play for the Knicks. Bender was always good, but retired because he ran out of bone cartilege; after a few years of letting the pain subside, Bender came back to see if he still had anything to give. He was OK, putting up a PER of 10.8 in 25 games, not helped by a broken finger. Bender's lost the athleticism of his youth, but he's a skilled face-up 7 footer who can shoot and drive the ball. He's always been an incredibly disinterested rebounder, and he turns it over quite a lot (perhaps in part due to the lack of court time), yet Bender can still block shots, even now he can't jump as much. He's a permanent injury risk, but he's still intriguing.
Rod Benson - Rodrigue Zsorryon Benson still has still not played in the NBA, despite his fame and his notable talents. He can rebound, run, and score a bit, and is also an elite post defender in the D-League. Benson has spent the last three years there, waiting for a call-up that never came. Comparable and even inferior players have played in the NBA before Benson has, and some players even more than that. Zendon Hamilton, for example, cranked out six NBA seasons. And while Hamilton was all right, so is Benson. Is it just sheer bad luck that keeps Benson out of the league, or is it something to do with his off-court personality? Probably a little of both.
Mark Blount - Last preseason, Minnesota encouraged Mark Blount and his representatives to seek a trade for him, since the Timberwolves didn't want him. They couldn't find one. Minnesota then encouraged Blount and his people to find someone who'd sign him in free agency, so that they could begin buyout talks. They couldn't find one of those either. Minnesota eventually waived Blount anyway, and he did not play a single minute last season. That should say something.
Josh Boone - Boone did not improve during the duration of his rookie contract; in fact, after Marcus Williams left, Boone only got worse. This decline is evident in his free throw percentage, which achieved the unusual feat of going downwards for four consecutive seasons (54%, 46%, 38%, 33%). Nonetheless, Boone is occasionally useful for some pick and roll offense, and grabs enough rebounds to matter.
Primoz Brezec - Like the majority of the "shooters" on this list, Brezec does not have three point range. Not in the NBA, at least. His jumpshot is pretty much all he has - that and the clumsy foul - and even then, Brezec has only 1 career made three point field goal. He can't dribble, post, finish, rebound, defend or run; what you're left with is a very, very, very big jumpshooter. By the way, Bruno Sundov is also available.
Kwame Brown - For all of the abject fail that has drizzled his career, Kwame Brown can truly defend the post. Anything offensive-related is highly questionable; Kwame can't catch, never could shoot, doesn't have good touch, has gotten worse in all facets of shot making, and has lost his athleticism. Yet he rebounds well enough (16.2% total rebounding percentage last season), and defends the post admriaby. It comes at the expense of fouls, turnovers and no offensive ability whatsoever, but since this is the minimum salary we're talking about, it might be OK.
Jackie Butler - Butler hasn't played, anywhere, since the end of the 2006-07 season. And when he did play, he had only two good months. Butler is 6'11, athletic enough and can score the ball, but he but he does not rebound, defend, or stay in shape. Or stay in work.
Jason and Jarron Collins - The two are listed together for the simple reason that they're identical in every way. Jason used to be considerably better, but he's not now - not since Keifer Sutherland and Eddie Izzard have two different people been so identical in every way. Both are little things players, big and versatile defenders, charge-takers and heartbreakers; neither can score or rebound. Both put up absolutely dreadful numbers when measured by any conventional metrics. Coaches continue to love them anyway for their "intangibles." For this reason, they are candidates, regardless of whether we want them to be.
Jermareo Davidson - Davidson has played two years in the NBA, with the Warriors and the Bobcats, but not necessarily in that order. His problem is that he's about to turn 26, and hasn't improved hugely. More than anything, Davidson is still thin. His height and athleticism gets him rebounds, blocks and some points, and the jumpshot is OK for a man who can't make a foul shot. But without the strength, he'll continue to get pushed around (and out of) the NBA.
Francisco Elson - Now 34 years of age, Elson split last season between the Bucks and the Sixers. Between the two he totalled only 66 minutes, 12 points and 14 rebounds. Elson has made hsi name as a defender, which explaisn why he continues to get NBA work despite being neither a scorer nor a rebounder.
Melvin Ely - The days of Melvin Ely being thought to have promise are genuinely over. The now-32 year old did not play in the NBA last season, and never play in it again. Apart from one good season - conventiently, a contract season - Ely has been (not had) a substantial bust in his NBA career, shooting only .457% and having a career total rebounding percentage of only 11.7% (which is only just better than Luol Deng's career mark of 10.8%.) Ely can block the occasional shot, but so can many players. And most of them can grab rebounds and score better than that.
Adonal Foyle - Adonal Foyle would be the ideal candidate for the role, were it not for one small flaw. He has played only 10 total games over the two seasons, including none last season, due to a knee injury that may force his retirement. Foyle has made no official statement on the matter, and as recently as March was said to not want to quit, yet it doesn't look great.
Marcus Haislip - Former Bucks first rounder Haislip returned to the NBA to play for the Spurs, after making himself into a star in Europe. He then proceeded to do absolutely nothing, playing only 44 minutes for the team. It's not that he can't play in the NBA; Haislip is an extremely athletic 6'10 player with an inside/outside offensive game, and good enough rebounding. He just needs the opportunity to play in the NBA that he doesn't have to fight to get in Europe. Can the Bulls offer him that? Probably not.
Chris Hunter - Hunter spent all of last season with the Warriors, where he fouled a lot. He also didn't rebound well. Nevertheless, aside from the fouls, Hunter doesn't make too many mistakes, which is a far cry from his Michigan days. He also blocks some shots, is decently athletic, and has an OK jumpshot. If he can get better at the last thing, he might find a niche for the long term.
Didier Ilunga-Mbenga [DJ Mbenga] - Mbenga is an athletic 7 footer and a shotblocker, with decent rebounding rates, and an occasional desire to shoot on every possession, which can be highly amusing in garbage time and highly destructive in actually important moments. He also has two championship rings, which may or may not be more than the rest of this list combined.
Jerome James - ...Yeah, maybe not.
Nate Jawai - After three teams in two years, Jawai couldn't get so much as a qualifying offer from the Minnesota Timberwolves. They traded for him to fill out their roster in last year's training camp, and even gave him a couple of starts, but Jawai responded with bad foul and rebounding rates, and a PER of only 11.0. He then injured his ankle and played very sparingly after January; the team then saw fit to bring in Greg Stiemsma for the remainder of the season and did not extend Nate a qualifying offer. Those things do not bode well.
Rob Kurz, Linton Johnson or Brian Cardinal. Or Marcus Landry. Or Steve Novak. Or Antoine Walker. - If you want a combo-forward face-up jumpshooter with varying degrees of defensive ability, then there's some names for you there. Best to start from the left, though.
Sean Marks - Quite incredibly, Sean Marks has just completed his tenth NBA season. It's incredible because I'd be willing to bet there's a good many NBA fans out there who have managed to not see a single minute of hot Sean Marks action in those ten seasons. Marks's career totals in those ten years are only 201 games and 2,067 minutes, including only 14 games and 75 minutes last year. This is partly because he's often injured, partly because he's often fighting for a contract, yet also because he's a marginal talent. Marks is a soft 7 footer who doesn't like physical play and who doesn't rebound well, and while he's a good shot maker, he has shot only 45% for his career. It's very much to his credit that this limited CV has turned into more years of NBA experience than you've had hot dinners, yet eleven seems like a definite stretch.
Sean May - As a lottery pick, Sean May busted quite badly. Partly due to weight problems, and partly due to knee injuries exacerbated by the weight problems. May lost weight last summer and joined up with the Sacramento Kings, looking for a career redux; however, he didn't get one. May played only 37 games for the Kings - which admittedly is a career high for him - and was out of the rotation for most of the season. May can make shots from inside and out, as well as pass the ball, but he makes plenty of mistakes, scores inefficiently, and has a very lengthy history of knee trouble.
James Mays - Former Clemson forward Mays has always preferred to face the basket, and is a talented face-up passer, yet in recent years he has resorted to taking a lot of threes. Perhaps the reason for his new-found three point affinity has something to do with the torn achilles tendon that caused him to miss almost all of the 2008-09 season. That can cripple a man's athleticism. Whatever the reason, though, his 29.6% conversion rate in Puerto Rico this spring doesn't seem to justify the career move.
Pops Mensah-Bonsu - Pops is English, but I'll try and leave any bias out of this. He's once again a free agent, and all of this is still true.
Darius Miles - Miles returned from what was believed to be a career ending injury to play for Memphis in 2008-09, amidst a hugely unpleasant soap opera. And despite all the drama, even in spite of having to re-invent himself as a smaller big man, he actually wasn't bad. He played less than 300 minutes but posted a PER of 16.1, which would have tied his career best had he played a more significant number of minutes. He chipped in with some rebounds, blocked a ton of shots, and even found a free throw stroke for somewhere, no longer the world-beating athlete of his youth but still a good one, even after the supposedly career ending knee injury. However, this was all undermined when it was revealed that Memphis were worried about Miles's poisonous attitude, the reason why they did not invite him back. Of all the things Miles needs to work on - health, staying in shape, jumpshot, ball skills, not smoking pot - this one must come first if this comeback is ever to get anywhere.
Mikki Moore - Moore started last year with the Warriors, but was waived part way through the year, even with 20 starts under his belt. He was an underrated and underpaid backup who, because of the brilliance of Jason Kidd, quickly became overrated and overpaid. Soon to be 35, Moore hasn't got many years left, yet he should still be able to help a team with his athleticism, energy and rangy jumpshot.
Randolph Morris - Morris just completed a guaranteed two year contract with the Hawks, and now has four years of NBA experience to his name. Also to his names are totals of 438 minutes, 140 points, 104 rebounds and 100 fouls. Nonetheless, he showed a little something last year. Morris only ever received garbage time minutes, but in them, he at least showed the ability to score the ball. 62 points in a season is not something to be ecstatic about from a fourth year player, yet Morris demonstrated the offensive talent that got him this far, and it might just help him land somewhere else for next year. Now, he needs to stop fouling.
(If you need proof that Morris made significant strides last year, look no further than his year-on-year PER; 1.5, 4.3, 1.8, 14.6. Quite the crescendo. Even better, Morris only played 4.4 minutes per game, so per 36 minutes that equates to a PER of 118.7. And that's quite high.)
Radoslav Nesterovic - Rasho has had a career which has been far in excess of that of almost everyone else on this list. He has been a good player for many years, even once the starter on a title winning team. Now into the 18th season of his professional career, Rasho is very much on the backslide of his career; nevertheless, he remains productive, blocking some shots, rebounding averagely, and hitting jumpshots. In an exciting piece of additional trivia, Rasho amazingly attempted only 5 free throws all of last season, compared to 149 field goals. This isn't really indicative of anything; I just wanted to say it.
Patrick O'Bryant - O'Bryant was Rasho's backup last season, and has not done anything in four NBA seasons. In that time he has totalled 186 points, 127 rebounds and 126 fouls. Last year, O'Bryant played only 51 minutes all season for Toronto, and fouled 12 times in that span. O'Bryant really isn't as talentless as his numbers suggest; he can make a few baskets around the rim and is a good shotblocker. But to keep getting contracts,he's going to have to get (and seize) a good opportunity. And to do that, he's going to have to stop fouling.
Shaquille O'Neal - Doug puts forth the case for acquiring Shaq here, but I'm not buying it. Nonetheless, in terms of sheer production, Shaq owns the remainder this list, something that ought not be overlooked. But since the retirement of Lindsey Hunter, Shaq has become the oldest player in the NBA. Nor can that. (Incidentally, Kurt Thomas is second.)
Fabricio Oberto - Last season for Washington, the 35 year old Fabricio Oberto totalled 650 minutes, 83 points, 105 fouls, 36 turnovers and 121 fouls. He's a good little-things player, and it's good that he is, because he sure as hell can't do the big things any more.
Oleksiy Pecherov - Stewie's season peaked in a preseason game versus Chicago. He kept Minnesota in the game single-handedly with 16 points in 21 minutes, then lost it for them single-handedly with a series of incredibly bad decisions. Offensively, he takes bad threes and turns it over. Defensively, he fouls. He's quite a good rebounder, but that's all he's shown.
Shavlik Randolph - Randolph just completed his fifth year in the NBA, although he's played only 40 games over the last 4. He's an OK shooter and a good rebounder, who gets to the free throw lines, and who overcomes being a bit weak on the interior with his good energy level. Randolph has been injured in recent years, but he keeps getting looks in the NBA because he's genuinely pretty productive.
Theo Ratliff - The 37 year old Ratliff is still capable of blocking shots, and is no less capable of getting through a season than he ever was. That's kind of a backhanded compliment, admittedly.
Jared Reiner - 28 year old Reiner is working on a streak of seven consecutive training camp contracts. He is much the same player as he was when he played with us back in 2004-05, although Reiner started to develop a three point jumpshot last season, hitting sixteen of them in 8 games in the Puerto Rican SN (making four), and somehow managing to attempt only 3 free throws to 107 total field goals. He had not hit a single three pointer in his entire collegiate and professional careers combined, over a span of ten years. It would be a stretch, though, to say that he's now got a three point stroke.
Chris Richard - I don't know what the Bulls see in Richard, an oft-injured undersized 6'9 centre who can't score, defends via the foul and who doesn't rebound particularly well. But they seem to see it anyway, so he makes the list by default.
Michael Ruffin - Another old boy, Ruffin finally flumped out of the NBA last year, and spent a month in Spain instead. The worst offensive player in thie history of the NBA can still play aggressive perimeter defense. However, he is also still completely unable to produce anything of substance on the court, other than slightly above average offensive rebounding.
Brian Skinner - It has never really mattered that Brian Skinner is undersized, because he collects rebounds and blocks anyway. He may have all the catching ability of a lettuce and a soft dexterous touch akin to being groped by Captain Hook, but defense is defense. Skinner produces just as much as Kwame Brown does, and without the soap opera. He just turned 34 and was dreadul last season, but the previous 10 were pretty good.
Courtney Sims - After a blistering start to the 2008/09 D-League season, Sims became hot sizzle. He had already played in training camp with the Pacers (2007) and the Hornets (2008), but it was that year that he really broke out, winning the D-League Player of the Year and All-Star Game MVP awards, and averaging 22.8ppg/11.0rpg/2.0bpg. It earned him midseason call-ups to both the Suns and Knicks, and then for training camp 2009, he signed with Atlanta, where he failed to make the cut. Sims trailed in other leagues last year (Belgium, China, D-League, Puerto Rico), and his star was definitely burning brighter at this time last year, but he should still probably come with a training camp contract somewhere.
James Singleton - Singleton has long been a favourite of mine, an effective combo forward who fell out of the NBA when he never should have done. He can't dribble, but he can shoot, defend, hustle and rebound, providing the same sort of mismatches that he similarly fails to alleviate. Every team needs a player like James Singleton. This is how Devean George gets so much work.
Joe Smith - Smilin' Joe is familiar to us as an offensive option, armed with a good mid-range jumpshot, hook shots with both hands, and an impossibly chipper demeanour. He is certainly not the player he once was, and probably wouldn't even be the player that he was once was here either. This is evidenced by the 40% he shot last season for Atlanta, scoring 194 points on 193 shots. Yet if we're willing to overlook last year as an anomaly, then Joe has something to contribute here.
Goran Suton - Suton was drafted by the Jazz out of Michigan State last year, but was waived and is now a free agent. He is adecent replica of Mehmet Okur in his early years, a face-up power forward and good enough athlete for a 6'10 with good post defense, OK rebounding and a jumpshot, one which doesn't yet have three point range, but which probably will do. He's not physical, barely posts and is not a leaper or a shot blocker, and his first professional sesason consisted of only 31 minutes due to injury. But I like him, and that will suffice.
Mike Sweetney - Sweetney's never-ending weight problems, covered here before, are no better. He was listed on the Wizards summer league roster earlier this month, yet he never played for the team. The Wizards wouldn't let him because turned up too fat. The chances of him ever rejoining the Bulls are somewhere between 0% and 0 Kelvin, and the chances of him ever playing in the NBA again are getting similar to that. But I'm not willing to remove him from the candidates list yet.
Robert Swift - After five years and only 97 games played due to injury, Swift fell out of the NBA last summer and went to the D-League to play for the Bakersfield Jam. Swift was born and raised in Bakersfield, so it was a logical unison; however, after only two games with the Jam, Swift asked to be released for personal reasons. The Jam obliged him, and their head coach Will Voigt said that it appears Swift is done with basketball aged only 24. If he has a re-think, it is worth the Bulls seeing if he was healthy, for, on the rare occasions that he was, Swift showed signs of usefulness. But if he isn't, and if he just doesn't want to do this any more, then it's a non-starter.
Stromile Swift - Tyrus is more similar to Stromile than we ever could have accepted, which is slightly worrying as Stromile spent last season in China. He was bought out by the Nets at the 2009 playoff deadline, and signed with the Phoenix Suns to complete the 2008-09 season. But the only contract he could get for this season was an unguaranteed minimum with the Sixers, and even that was insufficient, as the team waived him before the regular season started. Stromile then went to China, where he averaged 22.1 points, 11.8 rebounds and 3.1 blocks per game for the playoffless Shandong Flaming Bulls. (As an aside, Stromile hit four three pointers on the season; curiously, all four of them came in the same game.) It was only two short years ago that Swift was an effective player on both ends of an NBA court, and although he's now 30, I believe that he could still be so.
Etan Thomas - Thomas's 6 year contract has finally expired, and it didn't exacty crescendo. Etan has played only 49 games over the last three seasons due to a variety of ailments, including open heart surgery and a torn MCL. The injuries have more than deraield his career; they might have ended. Nevertheless, if Thomas is still healthy enough to play, then he has enough skills to contribute. He insist on using a jumpshot that he doesn't have, yet he makes shots around the basket, blocks shots, and is pretty atheltic for a 6'10 player. HIs rebounding has tumbled away after all the injuries, but that used to be decent too.
Kurt Thomas - Covered here, Kurt looks like being one of the best candidates for the job.
Tim Thomas - Since the last time we bought him out it, Thomas has been with the Mavericks, whose former stats guru called him "underrated." Thomas responded to that acclaim by playing in only 18 games all year due to injury, and recording a plus/minus of -5.3. Still, it's been a while since we bought Tim out.
Anthony Tolliver - If the Bulls are still not convinced that they have satisfactorily alleviated their outside shooting concerns, then help does not necessarily have to be found solely in the backcourt. Tolliver was an undersized rebounding centre in college who knew he needed to develop an outside shot to make it at the next level, and now that he's done so, it's the vast majority of what he does offensively. He's not a bad defender, either, and he's been mentioned in these parts before. If the interest in him is genuine, he ought vault towards the top of this list.
Jake Voskuhl - Voskuhl did not play professionally last season. In the season before that, he put up a PER of 0.4 in 38 games for Toronto. Just firing it out there.
Nikola Vujcic - The Bulls were said to be interested in Croatian centre Vujcic back in the summer of 2006, ultimately signing Ben Wallace instead. At the time, Vujcic was at the height of powers - unlike Ben Wallace, as it turned out. (Whoops.) Now 32, Vujcic has just been released by Olympiakos, who are looking to trim payroll. Vujcic is a highly accomplished offensive player, standing 6'11 with great low-post and passing skills; he has the only two triple doubles in the history of the Euroleague, both of which involved assists. He is no longer the superstar that he was, and his minutes took a nosedive due to the presence of Sofoklis Schortsanitis and Giannis Bourousis last year (amongst others), yet Vujcic is as close of a like-for-like replacement as there is for Brad Miller out there, albeit with far more low post than high. For that reason, despite his advancing age and ever-increasing tendency to get injured, there exists a good opportunity here for Vujcic to finally join the NBA. But he'd probably have to take a discount.
Sean Williams - Williams was in the NBA to begin this season, but only because his salary was guaranteed, and not because his play had merited it. He played in only 20 games and 227 minutes with the Mets before being waived when they needed a roster spot for someone they didn't even want (Sean's namesake, Shawne Williams). Considering Sean came into the NBA needing to improve many facets of his game - particularly anything resembling consistent offensive contribution - it was perhaps disconcerting that he got worse year on year, rather than better. Williams's athleticism and shot blocking are all in order, but the other facets of his game are not, and he's continued to encounter trouble off the court in his NBA career.
That's a list of candidates. Most of them are unsuitable, but it's good to be concise. I would have listed Mario Kasun and Curtis Borchardt, but time was a factor.
Not listed: Sam Young.
Filed under: Free Agency
Tags: chicago bulls, free agency, Ideas, kurt thomas

Funny last line.
Wow thats some list. I would rather just sign TMAC now and just go with the big men that we have and see what happens later on as the season starts.
Here's an idea I know no one else has thought about. Lets trade James "Dickey" Johnson for Sam Young, Nick Young, Thadeus Young or even Neil Young. I know Neil Young is pretty old, but he's got a lot of experience.
Oh boy.....here we go.... :)
Amazing!!!for the list u have compiled. You are a NBA Big Man Encyclopedia......
You should be proposing more trades with the knowledge you have unlike the same old trades which don't happen:-)
With all this knowledge about big men being so valuable...Why don't most of these centers try to practice shooting(Free Throws, 3-pointers, jump-shots) etc..? It is amazing that even today these big guys can't shoot better than what they did 20 years back...
Now that Ratliff has signed with the Lakers, what about Erick Dampier? His 13M unguaranteed contract is sure to be bought out. Charlotte has too many centers after the trade with Dallas. Dampier can still block shots and bang with other bigs.
Any quality European or International options?
Wow what a terrible list of players lol Half of those wouldnt be in the league if it wasnt for them being 6'10-6'11 lol Sign Tmac and bring in Kwame Brown. At least he is athletic an can rebound. He could help push Dwight Howard out of the paint too. Need size and strength imo.
If Asik as an unproven can't cut it it could spell trouble. But maybe he will. Often besides athleticism strength and body wieght are a huge issue guarding other centers(ask Joakim). I would doubt this guy isn't going to have trouble in that regard/has enough weight/muscle.
Getting another big guy might be the thing to do, but only if he's not a complete stiff like most of those guys are. I still would like to see Boozer play some center, and yes I know he's only 6'9(or less). But if he's willing to take his turn in the barrell defensively, offensively I think he kills at that position. And, as I've said, Thib's went out of his way to compliment Joakim's righty hook more then once. And watching Joakim if he plays PF some many of these guys are now under 6'10. And when he shoots the hookd against shorter guys, he just flat out cans them. So I hope this scenario comes to fruition at least a little bit.
But the only big guys I want to see come in are humble/professional/reliable vets. And not some mouthy prima donna like Shaq or attitudy(?) presence like Mikki Moore.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1rZBxn3Zx8 its getting tough to find some highlights of these guys on youtube. which means were really looking at the bottom of the barrel, then again they wont be getting many minutes anyways
Hunter blocking Greg Oden
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSnosleX8Sg
as for sg's i got lee,fernandez,n.young,a.parker..no mcgrady ,s.brown ,sam young or terrance williams.. we need range,scoring,handles and defense.. courtney lee is the best besides fernandez.. lee is buried in the bench.. and started for the magic who went to the finals.. if we thought reddick would fit than lee's gotta gel.. lee is the best defender on this list some say better than sefa.. could dribble an score for himself and is athletic and has a good enough jump shot to play off ball..i.e orlando..
lee & brewer is a helluva young athletic & defensive tandem for the price of nothing.. bobcats first for lee(worth it) than trade jj & a second round for a big.. like the john brockman deal..
get lee or fernandez please! back up bigs are easy to get..richards coul be our lindsey hunter... but we need a starting two guard badly.. we will regret mcgrady.. courtney lee or fernandez...
Yunqn,
You and I are on the same page.
MEMPHIS and NEW JERSEY have an over-abundance of WING players.
Logically, those are the places to look, if the Bulls want to add a SG/SF.
Interesting observation. Why haven't you mentioned this before?
6'3" GUARDS:
The Bulls' management apparently loves them.
THIS JUST IN:
http://twitter.com/BQRMagic/status/19280311778
i thought Brown was 6'4". but then again what you say is true, Rose is 6'3" i think they love him
Kurt Thomas is coming to the Bulls. Solid move
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=5403367
Missed off Ike Diogu. If he's healthy, he's all right.
Kurt Thomas was probably the best veteran out there. Can't complain.
Anyone in particular that you think might be available from these teams?
Kenyalla,
You know the list. I was responding to Yunqn.
Jealous?
So you admit that you've already made the same exact comment numerous times. And yet you feel the need to once again post the same exact opinion.
Just confirming.
Yeah...and does anybody remember the flaw in trading JJ? NOBODY WANTS HIM!!!!
I thought we had agreed the best trade was Rose for Sam Young, based on their college stats, of course.
Not straight up... I thought Memphis would want us to throw in Taj Gibson and a pick...:)
My bad. Sam Young's college stats were definitely much better than Rose's, so Bulls have to sweeten the offer.
I think that is what is holding this trade up. The Bulls are reluctant to part with the Charlotte pick.
SHANNON BROWN (part II):
It could be the CAVS now.
http://twitter.com/BQRMagic/status/19302071821
Anyone have a thought about Joe Smith? I think he helped us last time around. Or Jason Kapono?
Seems like we have enough pieces and money to actually make a deal for a much better SG or Big. Wonder if Gar/Pax is has one big surprise left for us.
Manuakea,
I like Joe Smith. Can he play back-up Center? Not sure.
As far as a surprise goes, I don't see any unless Dickey Johnson gets traded. That doesn't appear to be evident. The Bulls' management however appears to be keeping it's love for UNDER-SIZED GUARDS as Shannon Brown will be heavily pursued by the Bulls' brass, as soon as something with Matt Barnes gets decided.
Joe Smith doesn't have much left in the tank. His game really declined last year. Beside, Smith is a PF, not a C. If we're going to take on a veteran to provide depth on the bench, I'd pick Kurt Thomas.
I think Philly would give away Kapono to anyone who would take him. All Kapono does is shoot 3's, but his 3-pt shooting percentage has decreased every year since he signed his big contract, dropping to a career low of 36.8%. He's not a good defender or rebounder, and he'll make $6.6 mil this year.
Cross THEO RATLIFF off the list.
http://twitter.com/ChrisMannixSI/status/19294234647
Anyone care about Shannon Brown? That looks like it could happen.
IN RETROSPECT:
It's too bad the Bulls' brass couldn't have pulled off my INDIANA TRADE idea.
To Bulls: Jeff Foster and #10 (Paul George)
To Pacers: Kirk Hinrich, #17 and CASH
They would have had their young WING player and BACK-UP Center.
It's too bad you're still out of your mind. Yet you continue to make absurd trade proposals! Do you remember what the Bulls got for Kirk? As I recall, it was nothing. Nothing.
So the deal that was available to the Bulls was Kirk AND the Bulls' 1st round pick... for nothing.
This was the market. So based on that, you think the Bulls could have gotten Jeff Foster and the #10 pick?
Please explain your logic. You make no sense.
Report: Chris Paul wants out of New Orleans
Hornets point guard Chris Paul wants out of New Orleans and has compiled a list of his preferred trade destinations, CBSsports.com's Ken Berger reports.
The teams on Paul's list include the Knicks, Magic and Lakers, where he could be paired with another superstar ala LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh in Miami.
Al,
It's actually the Knicks, Magic, Trailblazers and Mavericks.
It is getting ridiculous. These guys all want to buddy up and decide where to go. It is looking like there are looking at contraction of teams in a few years time. And who's helping Paul...Mr. Decision himself.
The new CBA has to put some rules in place to keep parity. Otherwise, it is not going to be interesting to watch the NBA in most cities.
schaum,
What if the Bulls get Melo?
I guess he was singing Rose's praises at the USA camp today.
I'm okay with a few SUPER TEAMS, as long as the Bulls are one of them.
Paul can go to the Knicks and they'll still suck. Amare will break down and they'll be worse than New Orleans....
I agree send him to the Knicks.
I always thought he was over-rated anyhow...
Agree...That's probably the only way this guys get some heart and will power and stop acting like "Divas"..
Paul was hurt for almost the whole of last year and he is blaming others???
PROPS TO DROSE:
http://twitter.com/RicBucher/status/19293147039
How great is that to read? Handle your business, young fella!!!
D.Rose is on a mission to be our new Jordan.
I know we didn't get LeBronda James but, I think we all forgot that we already have LBJ on our team. I'm not saying Rose is better than LBJ NOW, but i guarantee you that he can be. He has a great work ethic and he's not scared to be the man. He isn't afraid of the shadow or the six rings. He is our Jordan and he wouldn't have it any other way. Watch for him this season guys!
In 2 years LeBron will regret not choosing Chicago...
He'll regret it after this season. Lakers just got Barnes. Along with Artest, I think those two will stop LBJ and Wade and Chris Bosh is too weak for Bynum or Gasol. Hell, I think Lamar could take him. The 3 amigas will fail.
And I will dance on the grave of their hopes and dreams...:)
No way Mimai will beat the Lakers now! Barnes was a big pickup for them. Shannon Brown will get some big time looks from the Bullies.
I'm not giving Miami a free pass to the finals. They have to get out of the east first. No one is going to lay down for this team.
Its going to come down to Shannon Brown, Tmac, Rasual Butler and Roger Mason. I say either Tmac or Brown.
As for Bigman....we desperately need size. Some one can at least help push Dwight out of the paint...in that case...i say Kwame Brown. 6'10 275 plus hes a decent athlete. Even though he sucks...i say sign him up too.
Rose, Watson
Brewer, Tmac or Shannon Brown, Morris Almond
Deng, Korver, James Johnson
Boozer, Taj, Kwame
Noah, Asik, Kwame
We will be a exciting team to watch thats for sure.
Matt Barnes to the Lakers per Yahoo sports
Supposedly Portland wants Taj and a 1st round pick for Rudy an Jeff Penegraph....saw that on hoopshypes forums. Taj an a 1st seems a little much.
csharp,
Change it to Dickey Johnson and the Bulls/Blazers have a deal.
So you believe the Bulls should trade James Johnson? Interesting.
Why exactly do you think the Bulls should trade him? Could you please explain?
Portland is probably the greediest franchise and they overvalue their players way too much compared to others...No wonder with all their talent...they haven't won anything for a long time.
We need to trade Taj/1st round pick for a guy who disappeared in the playoffs and might go back to Europe and a forward who is a 2nd round pick and hasn't done anything much...
I don't think Gar/Pax are that stupid...
schaum,
Not that stupid.
if Barnes signs with the Lakers should the Bulls go after shannon brown?
Kurt Thomas is still the way to go...refs will respect him more than the others by far
drob,
The Bulls' brass reportedly will pursue him heavy. Read below.
I'm all in for Kurt Thomas and Anthony Tolliver. Josh Boone is a low-risk choice. Ratliff's about to be signed by the Lakers
booger,
Anthony Tolliver is rumored to be going back to G.S.
The other guys are alright.
Isn't ERIC DAMPIER supposed to be getting waived?
That is one hell of a list.
The Yugoslav guy Vujcic sounds interesting, both as a player, and as a guy who spells his name almost like mine(Vujica).
Since we are basically looking for the last big man off the bench, and an insurance policy on both Asik(bust) and Noah(injury) a guy like Kwame Brown or Josh Boone makes some sense. Shaq would also, if he wasn't The Shaq.
Brown and Boone essentially provide a big body and a physical presence to bang bodies committ some hard fouls, play some D and grab some rebounds.
To me offense would be secondary with these guys. Vujcic sounds like he would provide more O but maybe less D and rebounding.
Singleton might be interesting but he is clearly not a center, and I think that we have enough forwards, barring injury to Boozer of course.
Kwame or Boone? I like Boone's athleticism and activity over Brown, but Kwame is a bigger body. How has he fared against Howard, who NOah has problems guarding. That could be the deciding factor, since we are going to have to get past Orlando and Miami, just to get to the Lakers and Bynum, whom we could use another big body against.
Does anyone have an opinion on why we passed on Samarko Samuels? He seemed like he was a hard worker and would be a fan favorite.
Maunakea,
Good for him. He would have been the 3rd PF, at best, on the Bulls.
Now he has a multiple year deal and a bigger role with the Cavs.
I compared Sam Young's college stats to Derrick Rose's. Based on the results of my analysis, Sam Young is a much better player than Derrick Rose. So I would trade Derrick Rose to get Sam Young.
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=derrick-rose&i=1&p1=sam-young
Kevie C,
If you haven't figured it out, we are ALL trying to move on from that discussion.
FACT remains, the Bulls still need to add a SG/SF and another BIG.
It is not a fact that the Bulls need another wing. It is simply your opinion.
Ask Devin Brown how he liked being the 10th man on the team last year. There simply aren't any minutes left. You realize only 5 people play at a time, right?
KW speaks the truth...TMac would be an absolute CANCER if get got Devin Brown minutes (think Larry Hughes on crack).
Then again if we had someone better, he might have played more minutes than Devin Brown...
You also have to keep in mind though, we freaking had Vinny Del Negro as our coach who only played 7 guys all the time.
That IS true!
Good point.
I imagine Thibadeaux will follow the Doc Rivers model for now. How many did the Celtics play regularly last year? A quick glance at last season's minutes played looks like they went about 10 deep, so maybe there would be some time.
That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if free agents are reluctant to come to the Bulls at this point. If I'm one of these guys, I'm looking elsewhere. The minutes may or may not be there.
KW doesn't speak the truth...sorry.
I totally agree. Noah missed time last season, which had a serious impact on the Bulls playoff seeding. I'm sure Boozers' injury history is known. No one knows what to expect from Asik yet. If Boozer stays healthy, I think the Bulls need back up shot blocking from the 5 behind him. If Boozer misses time, then back up post scoring will be needed. Another shooter would be nice, but doesn't seem essential at this point.
Kenyalla,
The Bulls have 3 SF's and only 1 true SG.
They need and will add another WING player.
Where's Oliver Miller when you need him???
i like Bender but mostly for his name which is similar to this guy http://www.thecrapreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/John-Bender-300x286.jpg
I'd love to see the Bulls sign Chris Hunter. He's from Gary IN so he's a local kid, and he played 60 games (9 starts) for 13 min last season for GS so he has a little experience, I think I would be comfortable with him as the 5th big man at the minimum.
He was supposed to play for the Knicks' summer league team, he was on the roster on the SL website but wasn't even at any of the games.
I haven't heard anything else that is going on with him, if his agent has something else worked out or if the Knicks decided they didnt' want him there.
Mitchell,
I can't believe Phoenix hasn't re-signed him yet.
Hell yeah, though he's not the best shooter I can see him being a good back up to Brewer. My business teacher coached the kid in highschool in Maywood.
Bothers me a bit that he played well for the Lakers and sucked donkey nuts for us. Judd Buchler syndrome maybe? I hope he won't "Pargo" it up for us.....
Our team sucked. Kobe made him good IMO. I think he could be a good backup for us now. And i don't recall him getting a lot of minutes when he was with us anyway.
Could be....I wouldn't be against it. We need what he gave LA.
oh yea they got some ballers over there. I hope we make a push for Brown to come back to Chicago. So far, I seem him as the best available option for our backup 2.
The cavs are watching who the bulls have interest in and trying to sign them before the bulls get to them.