Bulls Beat #150 - Free agency talk

Beat #150 - The latest FA news

I discuss the matching of Redick, leaving of Miller,
signing of Brewer as well as the other potential players left for the
Bulls to pursue in free agency.


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  • Good stuff. Next time maybe don't record the podcast whilst riding your bicycle on Lake Shore Drive.

  • SUMMER LEAGUE UPDATE (since you haven't watched):

    - Dickey Johnson belongs in the D-League for an extended period of time.
    - John Lucas III seems to be a LOCK for the pre-season roster.
    - Samardo Samuels seems to be a LOCK for the pre-season roster, unless he signs elsewhere.
    - Derrick Byars plays well when he gets 20 minutes of action. He could get an invite.
    - Trent Plaisted seems to be on his way towards getting on invite to training camp.
    - Matt Bouldin needs a lot of work, but for some reason I think the management loves him.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I've also watched the games and shockingly, I disagree.

    Bouldin is the only player from the summer league team who should be on the opening day roster (along with JJ).

    Something tells me Lucas, Samuels, Byars and Plaisted are going to appear in your posts a minimum of 5 times a day. However, none of them belong in an NBA rotation. Ever.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:


    If you wear glasses you might want to put them on during the games.

    Johnson has been HORRIBLE. Byars has played well, only when he has gotten 20 minutes of action. Lucas and Samuels have been the Bulls best two players during summer league action, which leads me to believe they are LOCKS to get INVITES to training camp. Bouldin has been up and down, but I do think the Bulls' management has a crush on him, so it wouldn't shock me to see him make the team.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    JJ is a 1st round pick with a guaranteed contract. He will be on the opening day roster.

    Your blood pressure will go down when you accept this.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:


    My blood pressure is fine.

    Yours might be high from kissing Dickey's ass though.

    He belongs in the D-League, so he can find his game and improve his trade value. It makes no sense for him to sit behind both Deng and Korver.

  • In reply to MrHappy:


  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    Are you serious? Samuels, Byars, Lucas and possibly Almond deserve a shot, and that's it. Bouldin has consistently been overwhelmed by summer league defenses. I'd hate to see how he responds to real talent and athleticism.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:


    Nobody thinks these guys will more than the 3rd player at their position.

    For example, John Lucas has a very good chance of being the 3rd PG.

    And Samardo Samuels has a very good chance of being the 3rd PF.

    And Morris Almond has a very good chance of being the 3rd SG/SF.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    I give Vinny a fair amount of credit, but I think his handling of the roster was mediocre at best. This includes his misuse of James Johnson and not giving him a clearly defined role. I remember thinking we should've drafted Spencer Hawes over Noah after his rookie year.....but I no longer think that.

    Take summer league games with a grain of salt. Taj looked like a bust (fouling out of like every game) in summer league and ended up 1st Team All-Rookie. JJ just needs a coach who will maximize his abilities and Thibodeau will do that.

  • In reply to DickeyJohnson:


    Dickey needs some serious time in the Summer League.

    He needs to figure things out, including how bad he wants to be in the NBA.

    The coach doesn't matter.

  • In reply to MrHappy:


    My mistake. I meant to say the D-League.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    He never did get a D-League assignment, did he? Pity, I wonder why. There's gotta be a D-League affiliate in his home state of Wyoming. Maybe he'd tear it up there.

  • In reply to DickeyJohnson:


    I detect a bit of sarcasm, but also TRUTH.

    This is an issue of DEVELOPMENT.

    I would think he and the Bulls' management would want him to reach his full potential.

    I don't think he can DEVELOP sitting behind Luol Deng and Kyle Korver. Therefore, the Bulls' brass ought to send him to the D-League or trade him to a team (Memphis or Minnesota) where he can get more run on the court.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Wow I didnt know JJ was going to get this much talk after all we have Loul Deng and Korver now at the SF position. You all are acting like he is being talked about to start as a 3rd option of the bench I'm fine with him he is capable of spelling guys 9-12 minutes. Tom Thib said yesterday that he liked JJ's defense and thats what they wanted from him so all in all JJ as your 3rd SF/PF isnt bad.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    and if you looking for trade value. i think its set with him and cant go any higher. he showed some talent last season and if he does what he is asked for this team as a 3rd option, but thats exaclty it JJ is a 3rd option SF/tweener to any team and thats his highest value.

  • In reply to ChardBull85:


    I have a problem with that.

    If Dickey Johnson, a #16 pick, wants to settle for being the 3rd SF, then why should the Bulls keep him? And why should the Bulls' management have their #16 pick settle for being the 3rd SF?

    It's all about DEVELOPMENT. I don't think the Bulls drafted Dickey Johnson to be the 3rd option at SF. They need to DEVELOP him (in the D-League) or trade him to a team who can.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    with what the Bulls did in free agency JJ has become a 3rd option/2nd option if Korver is not hot. Having him in the pros is better for his development then in the D-league. He can learn from Thibs and can improve within practices and team management and if someone goes down like last year (isnt hard to imagine with Deng) JJ will have the confidence and capabilities to try and step in by being at practice with this team instead of the D-league (which offers very little competition)

  • In reply to ChardBull85:

    Agreed. Thibs still has about 3 months to teach this kid a thing or two. Thibs hasn't had any real time with him yet. I can't believe Happy is so down on him already. Goodness what were you saying a couple of summers ago when Noah didn't look so great?

  • In reply to MrHappy:


    #1.) What does Dickey Johnson need to do as a player? DEVELOP.

    #2.) What does the D in D-LEAGUE stand for? DEVELOPment.

    #3.) Honestly, can he DEVELOP getting limited behind Deng and Korver at SF?

    * I think those are all FAIR QUESTIONS.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    James Johnson doesn't need the D-league. He will not improve his confidence going against inferior competition and different kind of offense/defense sets than the Bulls.
    He will probably learn more from practicing with guys like Deng, Korver, Brewer etc... daily..
    As Doug said, if he fails at practice...he will be out of the league soon. The Bulls will probably look at him in practice and then decide to trade him/keep him..

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:


    Dickey Johnson needs the DEVELOPMENT.

    He won't get it sitting on the bench behind Deng and Korver.

    It's just like last season when he sat behind Deng and Salmons.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    He was a young rookie last season. Nobody is arguing that he doesn't need development and a better understanding of the game. The problem is where should he get that development?
    Each individual is different...some guys need reps and others need game time to develop. Whatever you and me think of him...Thibs will need to study him and decide on where he should be. From what we have seen:
    1. JJ has potential and is/can be very athletic
    2. He has size and can defend a SG/SF/PG if he learns.
    3. He is young and seems to be lost in the team game.
    4. He is not going to be #1,#2 option anytime soon. He will be that in the D-league team and will still not learn how to play in a team game or play against high level competition
    5. He is only in his second year and is very young. Some guy

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    I meant to add...some guys need time to develop and don't compare him to Taj, Blair etc.. Compare him to Al Harrington, Jermaine O'Neal..who were sitting on the bench and practicing for a few years before they got on the floor...

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I wouldnt mind keeping him there...help him out a little bit...maybe we bring him up half way through the season or something

  • In reply to Csharp:


    Dickey Johnson needs FLOOR TIME.

    He could start for the Iowa D-League team. That's a good thing.

    I'm glad you and I are on the same page here.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    As for Free agent talk....Bulls should sign Shaq, either Tmac,Rasual Butler, or Josh Howard, and if they still have cash try for Eddie House or Rafer Alston. All Shaq has to do is play 13-15 minutes a night as a backup. Could let him take some back to backs off if were playing weak teams. And once we get into the playoffs we have a guy that can guard the big centers in the league. Id give Shaq his 2 year deal, Butler,Tmac or Howard can have 3 year deals and in 3 years we try free agency again. Brewer,Korver,Shaq, Tmac/Butler/Howard all off the books. An the Bulls will still be a young team.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    In regards to JJ... I'm hoping he has a nice season, mainly because it might stop the "Dickey" comments from MrCrappy.

    That being said, he doesn't look in shape to me. Yes, he lost weight. However, there is absolutely no definition in his arms. He just looks like a fat guy who lost weight and now has too much skin.

    We all know Jared lost weight eating subway sandwiches, but that doesn't mean he's in shape. And, unfortunately, neither is JJ.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:


    Say what you want, but James Johnson has put up rookie numbers similar to Dickey Simpkins. As long as that continues, I will keep referring to him as Dickey Johnson.

    You and Doug need to get over your CRUSHES on him!!!

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I've watched the summer league action and JJ's issues are not just being in shape but what the hell he is doing when he is on the floor....another lost lamb.
    Lucas is small but for 10 minutes a night or so he will not make a pile of mistakes.
    Let's see the roster filled out with guys how understand the game. Enough of the guys that cannot figure out why they are where they are....the years of Tyson n Tyrus muddling spacing has be rough to take

  • In reply to drob:


    God forbid, another fan (drob) has criticized Dickey Johnson.

    What's his nickname going to be?

    Grow up and stop kissing Dickey Johnson's ass while you are at it.

  • In reply to drob:

    I agree. JJ looks lost. KC Johnson made the point in his Trib article last week that Bulls concerns were with this basketball IQ, decision making, and focus.

    JJ has one more guaranteed year in his rookie contract, so the Bulls will keep him on the roster and hope that they're able to salvage something out of last year's pick. Maybe he'll focus on defense and be the wing-defender the Bulls need when Korver is on the court, but his 6.5 fouls/game in summer league play isn't encouraging.

    His greatest value may be as an expiring contract since teams can decline the 3rd year team option.

  • In reply to Soji17:



    Kenyalla will give you a nickname for criticizing Dickey Johnson.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    'Evilhoban' gave you the nickname. Give credit where credit is due.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    Yeah! :)

    I have a few other choice nicknames for Mr. Crappy too, but they would be inappropriate....

    By the way...I think it's funny how, according to Mr. Crappy's lack of logic, if you say "I hope James Johnson puts it together this year" you somehow have a "CRUSH" on him or are "kissing his ass". Yet he can give Derrick Byars and Sam Young a complete rim job....

  • In reply to evilhoban:

    Hahahahaaa! My thoughts EXACTLY(gotta love his caps)

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:


    The Bulls and Cavs are interested in Flip Murray.


  • In reply to Soji17:


    Dickey Johnson - 6 fouls, 2 turnovers and only 2 pts. at the half.

    Morris Almond (12pts.) and Derrick Byars (7pts.) had solid 1st halfs.


    I think you forgot to mention Scottie Pippen on your Podcast. Maybe next time.


    Morris Almond could also get an invite to training camp. SG invites are up-for-grabs.

  • Great job, Doug. Always enjoy your podcasts.

    Personally, I like Bouldin, Almond, Samuels, and Byars is a long shot. I could see any of those guys getting a shot in the preseason.

  • Mitchell,

    All the things you mentioned in your post.

    Plus, I think the Bulls' management has a crush on him.

    Personally, I would choose Almond and Byars before Bouldin.

  • These summer league games don't seem much different than playground basketball. Lots of guys running around and hoisting up shots to get noticed. Bouldin isn't like that.

    In the midst of all that chaos, Bouldin seems different. He doesn't get rattled and plays the game, makes good decisions. I know his numbers aren't there, but the guy looks fundamentally sound.

    He also has good size and seems to be in the right spots on the court. Just seems like a smart player who understands the game isn't just running around trying to "get his." I also think he moves the ball well in whatever stripped down offense they're running.

    That being said, I'm no expert on NBA talent, so take my opinion with a grain of salt, but this guy has the cool and calm I'd want on my team regardless of the sport I'm playing.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:


    Let me give you some advice.

    If you want to analyze the summer league roster or the Bulls in general, you might want to actually watch the games first.

    Bouldin has been SPORADIC at best.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Check Bouldin's turnovers during Summer League play too.

    Not good.


    Here's my thoughts and the roster and their chances of making the team.


    - John Lucas III (3rd PG)
    - Samardo Samuels (3rd PF)
    - Morris Almond (3rd SG/SF)


    - Derrick Byars (3rd SG/SF)
    - Matt Bouldin (3rd PG/SG)
    - Trent Plaisted (3rd PF/C)

    * I can't see anybody else from the SL team getting invited to the Bulls' training camp.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Maybe Chris Richard, I guess.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I agree....Lucas is a ball hog though. Morris Almond exploded last night! I want him as our 3rd SG

  • I am not sure how much we can figure out from summer league games. It is more like a pick-up game at the park. The only thing I am not sure is are they running anything the coaching staff want to implement?

    Yesterday, Samuels was taking Cousins to school...Does this mean Samuels will be a better player in the NBA than Cousins...definitely not..
    So, let's hold of on JJ's criticism...and see how he performs in training camp. The problem with him is he needs to be given a simple role than asking him to do multiple things. Let's give Thibs and his staff some time. They just finished the crazy FA stuff just recently and probably haven't had time to go through a lot of film and make concrete plans and suggestions to JJ...

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:


    With Korver set to back-up Luol Deng at SF, it would be best for Dickey Johnson to spend some quality time in the D-League refining his game.

    He could also raise his trade value up.

  • lets not forget James Johnson was a power forward in college and now has to change his position at the highest level of basketball...i dont think changing to the perimeter after playing mostly in the post is the easiest thing to do on the fly so i think he is going to take a little more time to develop u cant expect everybody to come in and average 20 and 10

  • In reply to MrSwAgG:

    Great point. Let's give the guy a chance to adjust & hope he's not a bust.

  • In reply to thegreatlie:

    If we could give Tyrus all those chances, I think we should at least give J.J a chance this year. It's only his second year.

  • In reply to Vedo:


    Dickey Johnson needs time in the D-League.

    Maybe that will MOTIVATE him to become a better player or he could put up some nice stats with guys more on his level, so his trade value can go up.

  • In reply to Vedo:


    I don't see why sending your boy Dickey to the D-League wouldn't be the best thing for him.

    It also makes sense from a roster standpoint. Korver should be the back-up SF.

  • In reply to thegreatlie:


    Give Dickey a chance to adjust in the D-League, where he belongs.

    Maybe that will wake him up and realize that his NBA career is at stake.

  • Exactly. The key is the structured setting.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:


    Don't tell me you plan to kiss Bouldin's ass too.

  • Mitchell,

    Bouldin didn't all that good during summer league.

    I don't know if you watched the games, but the stats can speak for themselves as well.

  • Mitchell,

    The question is, "Who's getting invited to training camp?"

    Just watching the games, it looks like it will be Lucas, Almond, Samuels for sure, while Byars, Bouldin and Plaisted are seriously on the bubble.

  • Doug,

    How's his confidence and belief right now?

    I would think it would be low. Maybe he could dominate the D-League, which would increase his confidence, as well as his stock in the trade market.

    If anything, maybe it will SCARE him and give him that FEAR that he could be out of the NBA soon.

    It's great he's in better shape and that does show more commitment, but that doesn't seem to have helped his BASKETBALL IQ any.

    That's where he needs the DEVELOPMENT.

  • i hope the Bulls are even sniffing around rudy. i think he is a great running mate to Rose and an effort guy on defense. with his slashing and 3pt threat he fits the hole the Bulls need to fill but again it will come with a high price tag given Portlands train of thought. i think its a long shot to getting him but the best available option

  • Mitchell,

    The problem with Portland is they don't need Dickey Johnson.

    They are pretty stacked at SF.

    I still think MEMPHIS is the best trade location. They are deep at SG.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    While I agree they don't need Johnson I wouldn't say its because they are stacked at SF.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Checkout my new photoshop pic of Coach Thibs:


  • Mitchell,

    I guess you haven't heard of Luke Babbit and Bradon Roy plays some SF.

  • In reply to MrHappy:


    You have to look at Memphis' depth.

    SG - Mayo, Allen and Young
    SF - Gay, Henry, Carroll

    Based on Young's comments over the weekend, he wants to be a 6th-man. He may not get that in Memphis be that he is their 3rd SG right now.

    If he came to the Bulls, he would undoubtedly be their #2 SG.

    Also, I'm pretty sure James Johnson can move ahead of Carroll in the Memphis rotation. He has more offensive skill and is just as good defensively.

    Swapping Johnson for Young makes good sense.

  • In reply to MrHappy:


    Sam Young is a better shooter than he is given credit for.

    Look at his numbers in the Summer League and at PITT.

  • In reply to MrHappy:


    I get it that we spend a lot of time talking about various roster spots here, but FAR too much time has been spent discussing guys that are basically inconsequential.

    Bottom line, if JJ or whoever from the D leauge is playing any type of substantial minutes on your team, you're a seven seed or worse.

    All that being said, is it possible to have Korver and Brewer combine thier DNA prior to the season and we can create a very solid 2 guard who can shoot and defend.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Dunno if Brewer can shoot much better considering his elbow problem. Hopefully, Korver can be taught to play better D though.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    hello Rudy Fernandez haha

  • In reply to Dmband:


    I think SAM YOUNG has that kind of potential.

    His 3pt. shot looks really improved, based on his Summer League play.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Anyone know the deal on Flip? I want him back. He's a crafty veteran guard that can flat out score the ball. Instant offense off the bench.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Cho just named GM now lets see what they do with Fernandez

  • In reply to ChardBull85:


    I saw that too.


    Rudy Fernandez would be a nice get, if they price is right.

    Does anybody have Bob Barker's phone #?

  • In reply to ChardBull85:

    Dwyane Wade:"I'll send Chicago and New York 'gift baskets"- If I were the BULLS front office, i would tell Dwade: GFYS BTW we are gonna beat you this year!

  • In reply to vinmotors:

    We should send him some anal beads with the Bulls logo on each bead and a note saying "Prepare to get pounded this season"....in a basket, of course.

  • In reply to evilhoban:


  • In reply to MrHappy:

    What's wrong with a basket?

  • In reply to evilhoban:


    Let's look at Portland's depth.

    SG - Roy/Mathews/Williams
    SF - Batum/Babbit/Mathews

    Does Portland really need Dickey Johnson?

    It doesn't look like, but you never know.

  • In reply to evilhoban:

    Can the dogs in Heat please shut up? A gift basket what for? its a business, you dont give gift baskets to all the jobs that you passed up. Doug you really didnt miss anything with the Summer League, the only player worth mentioning is Lucas III. But he's 3rd point guard option on any team if that. The bulls should just take him at this point to stop Miami from signing him.

  • In reply to Snypershawn:


    Samuels, Almond, Plaisted and Byars, on occasion, also played well.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    No they didn't.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:


    You clearly don't know the NBA or bother watching games.

    So, your opinions are pretty much null and void.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Say's Mr. Crappy who said Wade and Bosh were coming.....

  • In reply to evilhoban:


    I never said Wade and Bosh were coming.

    I said I wanted them to come to Chicago.

    Don't hate, just appreciate.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Except for Samuels occasionally, I don't think anybody else has a shot at a training camp invite. We need to see if there are players on other summer league teams we can pick up for an invite!!

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:


    The Bulls need shooter, so don't discount Almond, Byars or Bouldin.

  • In reply to Snypershawn:

    Also, sorry to see Brad go. I'm very concerned Asik is completely unproven with a history of injuries. Plus he's a disaster from the free throw line at 36% this eason in Euro and 50% last year. Brad with lots of rest can still impact a game offensively. Not good. I might have paid the $5 Mil rather then rely on Asik.

    And one other Summer League note. James Jonshon can not shoot. He has a very funky release/ball comes of his palm not his fingers and he sort of flings it. He has so much talent, but usptsairs I think he's a disaster. I hate to say it, but IMO it's too bad we can't trade him if we could get any value for him in a first round pick or late rotation big.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    Where is this "so much talent" part I keep haering with Johnson? Dude was supposed to have a football type body who has the agility to plays basketball. I see an over weight out of shape son of Bernie Mac.

  • In reply to Crowned:


    That's harsh.

    Hopefully, he finds some game in the D-League.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I think JJ should/will get a D-League assignment at some point during the season, though I'm with the other posters who say he'll learn the most from Thibs's practices. Getting his butt kicked by Carlos Boozer every day should do wonders for JJ's psyche...though I hope it doesn't injure Boozer in the process. And who knows, maybe Thibs envisions JJ's defensive potential in the frontcourt (so he shouldn't slim down TOO much). We didn't have a guy like Booz on the roster last year, so which power forward could physically challenge JJ? Hakim Warrick? Taj? I love Taj, but...no. And if Samuels makes the roster, there's another physical PF to knock JJ on his behind in practice.

    So you see where I'm going with this -- I want to develop JJ as a power forward in the Lamar Odom mold. Taj gives us great insurance if Boozer goes down...but then who backs up Taj? Call me crazy or biased, but I'd take JJ over Samuels every time (and that assumes Samuels even makes the roster).

    And since JJ can't backup Noah at center, get Kurt Thomas!

  • In reply to evilhoban:


    If Portland wants to have Dickey Johnson as their 3rd SF, then maybe this works.

    To Bulls: Rudy Fernandez and Jeff Pendegraph
    To Blazers: Dickey Johnson and CASH or future considerations


    If I'm the Bulls' brass, no way I'm giving them Taj Gibson.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I think Portland is going to want to leverage Rudy in order to get under the luxury tax line. Rumor is that they front loaded the offer sheet to Wesley Matthews with a $9.2 mil 1st year cap hit, which puts them $3 mil over the luxury tax line.

    Joel "the Vanilla Gorilla" Przybilla's $7.4 mil expiring deal seems like the logical contract to move (as Doug mentions in his podcast), but doing so would eat up almost all of the remaining salary cap space for the Bulls.

    To make the deal work, the Bulls could give up JJ, 1/2 of the TPE from the Tyrus deal, and a future 1st round pick. In return, we'd get Rudy and Przybilla. Bulls remaining cap space would be around $1 mil, although we would still have $1.2 of Tyrus's TPE remaining as well as Salmons's $800k TPE to round out the roster.

    The issue is that Przybilla re-injured his patella tendon slipping and falling out of the shower last March. While this isn't as bad as Greg Oden requiring microfracture surgery because he slept on the couch funny, it does mean that Przybilla probably won't be available to the Bulls for the 2010-2011 season. We'd still have the glaring hole for a backup big man.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Happy & Co.

    I think you guys are right in that the final roster spots will be filled by up and coming guys..which is the right move. Im not familiar with Sam Young, so I hope to see more of him. Lucas III is going to be on the squad IMO.

    I will say, the Bulls seemingly have gone about this offseason having learned mistakes of the past. 3 year deals on the role players means that we will have much more flexibility in the future to trade or sign other FA's down the line.

    I think that Deng contract really taught them a lesson!

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    In reply to MrHappy:

    I like what Doug was saying on the podcast...let's see if detroit will take deng for gordan and then pick up richard jefferson. Now that's a championship team.
    Now as for reality. Can we d-league JJ's ass already?He's not going to contribute much playing like he is. Even tho tibs said he liked JJs defense the other day he was such a disaster on the offensive end you cant keep him. You really have to lay eyes on his summer league play to understand how unrecoverable he is right now. He's not even running the floor consistently!

    Samuels might see d-league action too but only to get him some minutes before they bring him up at the deadline. The guy's a beast. Maybe he and JJ will develop a rapport

    Lucas is a lock for the bulls . Thibs called him, "an ideal nba 3rd guard". I'm on the fence aboutbouldin and almond. Theres a spot for almpnd if JJ gets demoted. Bouldin has a lot to learn but he really IS a guy that can develop on an nba bench tather than next to lesser dleague competition.

    Can we stop throwing out names of geriatric players like howard and shaq please? The future of this team is NOT going to be found in the 1996 draft! If the bulls use the dleague prospects and use cap space for draft picks we'll be head to head with the heat for the foreseeable future.

  • In reply to Redwhitenblack:

    Exactly! Forget these washed up has-beens we need young promising talent...meaning we need better scouts. Also, JJ will be fine like Schaumburgfan said compare JJ to Jermaine O'neal and Al Harrington: solid players that developed on their teams in the NBA not the D-League. For some it takes some time to "get it" in the NBA...but talent rarely surfaces from the D-League(last year's Warrior team was an exception).

  • In reply to mdot1986:


    That's just a bad comparison.

    Jermaine O'Neal and Al Harrington were HIGH SCHOOLS kids when they entered the NBA, while Dickey Johnson was a 22 yr. old Junior from an ACC school.

    Dickey Johnson needs time on the FLOOR. He'd get it in the D-League.

    He's not going to get it sitting behind Deng and Korver.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    You are bent upon sending him to the D-league. There is no point arguing when you have only one opinion. Anyhow, Thibs/coaching staff will decide on where he belongs and hope they make the right decision. When I compared him to O'Neal and Al, it means they were not ready to get on the court in terms of basketball IQ. It doesn't matter if JJ played a couple of years more in college than those guys.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:


    It's a valid arguement and very relevant given his lack of DEVELOPMENT.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    I wish we could have drafted Dominique Jones with that No.17, but we took the shot. Luke Babbitt was my other pick(along with Ekpe Udoh), and probably my top choice. One of those guys would have been a nice addition.

    Regarding the Summer League roster Samardo Samuels has the body, post quickness/moves, decent lat quickness defensively from what I could see, and the "I belong" demeanor. He's the only guy I could see making the Bulls team.

    Bouldin does a few nice things, but he athletically appears completely outclassed to me. And he's not a good shooter. No chance IMO. Almond looks mentally lost. He jacks up shots with no rythm, and wanders around lost. Probably not interested. Byars if it weren't for his constantly confused/defeated mask of negativity I might be interested. You have to think you belong, and he doesn't.

    So IMO Samuels is the only one who should have a shot of actually making the team. Almond or Byars would not shock me though if one of them did do to minimum salary slots possibly needing filled, and they both are perimeter shooters. As for Lucas based on his freakish A/To ratio in college and prolific threes on 40% I would not be shocked if he made the Bulls or somebody else's roster. Apparently Riley/Miami is trying to horn in on him already.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    Samuels reminds me of a worse Scott Williams. I agree with your D. Jones pick, btw...

  • In reply to Redwhitenblack:

    Update on Matt Barnes - Report from David Alridge from NBA.com: Doesn't look like the Bulls are among the teams pursuing Barnes.

    "As of late Sunday, according to a source, the Cavs were still in the running for Barnes -- though their opposition was formidable, with the Lakers, Celtics and Heat, along with Toronto, all making strong pitches."

  • Mitchell,

    Back-up PG seems to be the biggest need right now.

    Adding a #2 SG and a VET BIG are right there as well.

  • Mitchell,

    I didn't say Roy was a SF, but he does play that for them sometimes.

    Don't be shocked to see, if Elliot Williams develops.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    And let's not forget about Wes Mathews either.

    He's a SG/SF they just added from Utah.

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