Bulls agree to two year deal with Kurt Thomas

Sam Smith broke the news on twitter last night, and here's KC's blurb;

As much for that performance as the fact Brad
Miller left via free agency to Houston, Thomas now is a Bull, agreeing
to a two-year deal late Thursday, a league source confirmed. Sam Smith
of Bulls.com first reported the agreement. The Tribune previously had
reported the Bulls' interest in Thomas.

Thomas, 38, is a 14-year veteran
who long has been known as one of the league's top citizens. He can
also still play -- as his playoff performance indicated.

Thomas is a good citizen, a vet presence, and probably comfortable with an end of bench role.   He's been a role player on some really good teams, and I think he's a good fit with the culture the Bulls are trying to breed.

Can't say I'm really psyched about him, as I think basketballwise there's not much left in the tank, especially next year.  Still, the price is likely really low though, so there's little risk in the move.

It appears the Bulls followed their typical MO of filling up the end of the bench with good citizens rather than trying to maximize every ounce of talent.   I don't fault them for that as the improved locker room chemistry probably helps more.

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  • Well I was hoping Asik's mentor could play a bit but I could live with this. Not gonna give us a whole lot but I believe this signing is more that we feel Asik is really ready sooner than later and can contribute immediately.

    My only concern is Kurt Thomas isnt much of a banger and he is 38. He will be 40 next year. I wounder if it would have been smarter to just sign some D-Leaguer who is hungry and bangs but im not in the Bulls FO.

  • In reply to 1096ballenf:

    He turns 38 in October. And just like me, he only has one birthday per year. So he won't turn 40 until 2012.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    Haha, I thought he turned 39 this year and would be 40 at the end of his contract.

    Its wierd cuz he is still only a year younger then Penny who is tryna come back. He still isnt much of a banger tho.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    Maybe he has his own personal leap year.

  • Good move! Kurt filled in big for the Bucks when Bogut went down just before the playoffs. We are a young team, but its good to have a few vets around. Kurt can shoot and play spot 4/5.
    Anyone know the $ or is this a straight vet minimum that Barnes signed with the Lakers around $1.1M/yr?

  • troy,

    I heard $1.7 the first year and $1.9 the second year for Matt Barnes.

  • Sam is saying it's a one year deal now...

    http://blogs.bulls.com/2010/07/bulls-add-big-man-enforcer-kurt-thomas/

  • In reply to scottplummer:

    Good he is too old

  • In reply to scottplummer:

    Not sure what he will help us with besides maybe helping Noah an Asik out. I would of signed a bruiser like Kwame Brown to at least bang with the big centers in the league. What are we going to do when we face, Dwight, Perkins, Jermaine Oneal, Yoa, Shaq etc... WE NEED BEEF downlow. Kwame is 6'10 275 an a decent athlete. He could give you good fouls and rebound for us.

    Its down to Tmac, Shannon Brown and Josh Howard imo. Go with Tmac....make some noise. The guy still can play at a high level especailly after working out really hard this summer. We need bench scoring and some more creators. Plus Tmac standing at the 3pt line is a lot scarier then Shannon Brown or Josh Howard standing there. Make defenses stay honest. Tmac will help open up the lane for D Rose imo. Plus he will have some of those big nights where he scores 20 or so. Roll with Tmac!

  • In reply to Csharp:

    If you want the Bulls to make some noise, Tmac won't do the job. Bulls should bring in Shannon Brown. I can live with him even tho signing him won't be too much noise but is respectable.

  • In reply to Csharp:

    If you want the Bulls to make some noise, Tmac won't do the job. Bulls should bring in Shannon Brown. I can live with him even tho signing him won't be too much noise but is respectable.

  • WING and a PLAYER:

    Who's it going to be?

    I'm hearing Shannon Brown. I'm not sold on him at all.

    I kind of like Mardy Collins, even though he hasn't played all that much with LAC.

    McGrady...not sold on that idea.
    Howard...not sold on that idea.
    Mason Jr....not sold on that idea.
    Simmons...I wouldn't mind that idea.
    Butler...I could buy into that idea.

    Still think a TRADE is the better way to go, but this off-season looks pretty CONSERVATIVE.

    That's our Bulls' management for you. CONSERVATIVE and SAFE.

    I guess they haven't heard of the expression, "No risk, no reward."

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    You think the Bulls should trade for a wing player? Anyone you have in mind?

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    Kenyalla,

    Somebody YOUNG.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I agree...let's see if Nick Young is available!!!!

  • In reply to evilhoban:

    Even though you are just hating on MrHappy, Nick Young would be a nice fit for our guard rotation. It's too bad we didn't get him back in the Hinrich salary dump as opposed to the rights to Vermeenko.

    Now we finally have a real "Kurt." I'm going to laugh so hard if announcers/commentators/etc. start calling him "Kirk" Thomas.

  • In reply to jt563905:

    I was actually half serious. Nick Young is...well...young and he can play. I agree he would be a nice addition to our core if he can be had.

  • In reply to evilhoban:

    TOPICS:

    Doug Thonus (a great guy) and Mark Deeks (another great guy) are just giving us SOFTBALL topics. They need to get into the HARDNOSE topic of whether or not the Chicago Bulls can win a championship with this current roster.

    The answer to that is NO!!!

    The bottom-line is the Chicago Bulls can't complete at SG and SF vs. the Lakers and Heat.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    We can compete at small forward with the Lakers. Heat... No way.

  • In reply to Dileg:

    Artest's stare will injure Deng.

  • In reply to jt563905:

    I would put money on it...

  • In reply to Dileg:

    HEAD-to-HEAD:

    Brewer vs. Wade

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=brewero02&p2=wadedw01

    Brewer vs. Kobe

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=brewero02&p2=bryanko01

    There's a -20 point difference the Bulls have to overcome.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    This is BS...For ex: Brewer played 16 min to Kobe's 43 min. How can you compare that?
    Plus, What about the efficiency of shooting. It is not a good way to compare...

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    schaum,

    Regardless of minutes, you know Kobe and Wade are better than Brewer.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    did u honestly just say that? Ur the only one trying to compare wade and kobe against brewer one on one (which is assinine). different teams have different strong points at different positions. ur logic is just plain dumb

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    just argue that u believe the heat and lakers are a better overall team then trying to make dumb comparisons. and u havent even seen this bulls team or heat team play one game together

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    BSamps,

    Who has the better players?

    Like it or not, talent matters in the NBA.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    did i once say talent doesnt matter? Im just saying the bulls have plenty of it and your crowning the heat before they have played one game together

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    BSamps,

    It's not assinine. It's valid.

    The Bulls don't match-up, offensively or defensively.

    Miami and Los Angeles have been great on both ends of the floor, without their new additions.

    I fully expect them to be even better next year.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    You are such an idiot. Of course Kobe and wade are going to score 20 more points than Brewer. That doesnt mean we have 20 points to make up. Kobe and Wade are using a ton more posessions to score those points and at least 10-15 more shots a game. Brewer isnt going to score like them of course because of the player he is. Rose and others will make up those points. Using a website like ur using is just plain dumb and shows stats in isolation. It shows nothing about actually being on the court.

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    BSamps,

    The stats don't lie. The Bulls are in TROUBLE vs. Miami.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Ur using stats in isolation. which means absolutley nothing. ur comparing thier best players against our weaker ones. its a team game, not a one on one on one on one... Ur stats mean nothing. Im not sayin we are better than them necessarily or are going to beat them in the playoffs, i dont know yet, need to see how the team meshes together. but i am saying ur stats are absolutely ludacris and mean nothing right now

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    BSamps,

    I compared STARTERS. Head-to-Head things don't look good.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    ur also comparing stats when lebron wade and bosh were all option one on their respective teams. they wont all get as many touches sharing the ball with the big 3 in miami

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    Brilliant point.

    I don't know why MrHappy continues to argue with people when he is at such a disadvantage mentally.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    haha, another good point

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    BSamps,

    Like I said...IDIOT.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    your the idiot and you continue to show it, look at the responses, people agree with what i say and just rip on you for the chump that you are

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    Kenyalla,

    Yet another senseless claim by you.

    What else is knew?

    Do you plan on adding anything to this discussion or blog? Or do you intend to show your age by acting like a child?

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    All this stupid banter does is ruin the blog. How about you all stop it? Mr Happy, this means stop with your irrelevant agendas. Everyone else, this means stop baiting Mr Happy.

  • In reply to MarkDeeks:

    I feel like a little kid getting yelled at by my parents or something, lol. I agree though, Mr Happy needs to stop with his asssine comments, otherwise its too easy to bait him

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    I'll stop.... out of respect...

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    BSamps,

    FYI...I can't stand the Miami Heat organization or their fans.

    That being said, unless the Bulls add another SUPERSTAR to the mix, preferably Melo or Deng and Brewer turn into All-Stars the Bulls will have a hard time beating the Miami Heat in a 7 game series.

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    You need to stop too, with the comments exactly like that one. That is bait. We're all going to feel stupid if this place winds up being moderated like a freaking message board, but if this doesn't stop - and it's shown no signs of doing so - then it'll have to be.

    This is NOT a prompt to start the "ok I'm sorry but he was doing this first.....", et cetera. We're all adults here, so let's get on with adulthood.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    HEAD-to-HEAD:

    Carlos Boozer vs. Chris Bosh

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=boozeca01&p2=boshch01

    RECAP (vs. Miami):

    Rose vs. Chalmers...Rose +2
    Brewer vs. Wade...Brewer -20
    Deng vs. LBJ...Deng -15
    Boozer vs. Bosh...Boozer +2

    How the HELL are the Bulls going to make up that -30 difference?

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    So what ur saying is the bulls are going to lose to miami by 30 every time we play them? Ok we will see when the season starts.

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    BSsamps,

    No.

    I'm saying the Bulls don't look like they match-up very well vs. Miami.

    (SG and SF)

    It goes back to my original point.

    Rose, Brewer and Deng need to play out of their minds or the Bulls better get MELO, if they plan on COMPETING with the Miami Heat.

    I hate to say that, but on paper things don't look too good.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    HEAD-to-HEAD:

    McHappy vs. The Burger King

    RECAP

    Whopper vs. Big Mac ...Whopper
    BK fires vs. McHappy fries ....McHappy
    Chicken Tenders vs. Chicken Nuggets...

    ...we all know McHappy doesn't have any nuggets!!!

    WINNER: The Burger King!!!!!

  • In reply to evilhoban:

    Excellent comparison. Too bad you don't have a link.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    Kenyalla and evildope,

    Why don't you two clowns grow-up and actually get add some productive to this forum for once?

    Your childish demeanor is over-played and out-dated.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Rudy Fernandez didn't do too bad either.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    And the Lakers and Heat can't compete at PG and C against the Bulls.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    Kenyalla,

    The Lakers and Heat can COMPETE at C, but not a PG.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Ugh...

    Start your own blog and podcast then. Doug and Mark kick ass...and they do it for next to nothing out of their passion for Bulls basketball. This blog, that occupies most of your day obviously, is born out of their dedication. Without them....you would have no voice and nothing to do. If you don't like what they bring, move on. Please. I've been listening to Doug since the first Bullsbeat, and will be here until nuclear holocaust. Show some damn appreciation...I was just having fun the last couple of days, but now you are seriously pissing me off.

  • In reply to evilhoban:

    I agree, happy can go start his own blog if he doesnt like the topics and he can comment to himself (no one else would read his blog-no offense, dont see it being very basketball intelligent)

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    BSamps,

    And when have your or your childish friends said anything informative about basketball on here?

    I have yet to see it.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    This is really the first day ive actually commented and i have already made 20 times the intelligent comments than you have made, you just repeat your dumb ass comments again and again and again...

  • In reply to evilhoban:

    evildope,

    Here's some advice for you. Quit acting like a child.

    Try adding something knowledgeable to this discussion.

    Kurt Thomas is insignificant to what's important heading into next season.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    You are the one acting like a spoiled brat. You not only bring no real, rational or intelligent basketball insight or knowledge, but your comments are the equivalent to, as Kevin Nash would say: "Taking a dump in the punch bowl." I am not joking around anymore. I have issues with your disrespect to Mark and Doug with your above comment. It's childish and unappreciative....knock it off.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    how bout Brigham Young?

  • In reply to ZombieKevie:

    or Young MC?

  • In reply to ZombieKevie:

    Little Happy,
    Thank God I got you to say something other than we dont match up at the PG and SF spot. Maybe theres hope for you yet. And by the way, my therapist doesnt see there is anything wrong with a grown man playing with dolls. I just got yesterday my Mr. Happy chatty doll, but am curious why does the pull string pull out of the ass instead of the chest? I am sure you can explain it to me, but please one post will be enough.

  • In reply to ZombieKevie:

    cathy,

    I'm sorry you have issues with dolls. Keep working with your therapist.

    Maybe you can get your insecurity issues fixed.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM?

    I'm not feeling right now.

    Rose would have to play on an Isiah Thomas level, Brewer on a Joe Dumars level and Deng on a Mark Aguire level.

    The point of playing pro sports is to WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS.

    I still think this team need another SUPERSTAR. Carmelo Anthony would do the trick.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Do you have any trade proposals to acquire Carmelo Anthony?

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    Kenyalla,

    The Bulls need to keep adding young talent so they can try and trade for him.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    1) Deng, Gibson, James Johnson, Charlotte 1st, our 2011 1st & maybe 2012 1st or a couple of 2nds.

    -- while that likely doesn't cut it, it would be ideal.
    -- Noah, Boozer, Carmelo, Brewer, Rose would be a hell of a starting lineup. Probably pie in the sky though.

    More realistic scenario but harder pill to swallow:
    2) Noah, Deng, Johnson, 2011 1st (not Charlotte's), 2012 2nd.

    --that might make it but we'd have to have a guarantee that Carmelo is signing the contract extension Denver has on the table.

    I'm not positive that the #'s add up but I'm sure they're close enough to make a few minor changes for it to work for NBA rules. As such, I'm too hungover to check them.

    I'd hate giving up on Noah but let's not continue to overvalue our talent like we have in the past. If we can get Carmelo and Noah has to be a part of it, then so be it. Carmelo is light-years better than Bosh.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    Why is everyone so quick to judge how well/bad this team will be? The season hasn't even started and we have yet to see this team play together and everyone is already making judgements. Nobody thought Boston would make it to the Finals but they did. I'll save my judgement for later.

    As for Kurt Thomas and whoever the next additions are, i could careless who they are cause we already have a nice young 9-10 man rotation already. Everybody's not gonna play every night, ask Devin Brown.

  • In reply to joeacook3:

    M.O.N.

    Injuries aside, the Heat and Lakers have the better rosters.

    I don't need to have the season start to know that.

    I'm just concerned about the Bulls ability to compete at SG and SF.

    They look clearly OVER-MATCHED.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    As long as he his healthy, he should be fine. He always looks angry....that might be a good thing if he is the enforcer.
    He is not that wide though...so not sure if he can guard or bang with Howard.
    Do we now get TMAC even though there are a lot of red flags about him. We need one controversial player...Everyone on the team seems too professional and nice guys:-)

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Yes go with Tmac! IMO he could help put us possibly 2nd seed in the east.We would be unbelievable deep. He seems like he just wants somewhere to play. His ego might have been put in check this summer.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    TMAC won't get it done...PASS.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    CHAMPIONSHIP CONTENDERS (Not right now):

    Rose vs. Fischer (Lakers) and Chalmers (Heat)...I'll take Derrick Rose.

    Brewer vs. Kobe (Lakers) and Wade (Heat)...The Bulls are SCREWED.

    Deng vs. Artest (Lakers) and LBJ (Heat)...The Bulls are SCREWED.

    Boozer vs. Gasol (Lakers) and Bosh (Heat)...Boozer can hold is own.

    Noah vs. Bynum (Lakers) and J. Anthony (Heat)....Noah can hold is own.

    Unless Brewer and Deng play out of their mind and raise their game to an All-Star level, the Bulls have ZERO chance of winning an NBA CHAMPIONSHIP right now.

    The only other thing they can do to COMPETE for a title is add CARMELO ANTHONY.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Remember one thing, defense wins champions,sometimes you can't always have paper champions.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Reesel,

    People need to face reality. The Bulls can't COMPETE at SG or SF.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Let's get the season started first and see where the Bulls are and how they mesh together first. There is a trade deadline if the Bulls need to make more moves.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Reesel,

    And I have a feeling there chances of winning it all could come down to what they do at the trade-deadline.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    That's going to be tough to do if he wants to go to New York to play with over-rated Paul and broken down Amare. We might be the best fit, but, imo, we were the best fit for LeBron...

  • In reply to evilhoban:

    ...and I would hope Noah could hold his own with Anthony....Jesus.....

  • In reply to evilhoban:

    MrHappy-
    you talk way to much and just suggest assinine trades that have or had 0 % chance of happening. What do we have to offer for Melo? Just stop posting unintelligent posts. Its annoying to read. You are way to off topic as well. Talk about what the actually post was about.

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    BSamps,

    And you are an IDIOT.

    The Bulls can't COMPETE at SG and SF right now. They just can't.

    FACE REALITY.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Way to name call. Ur an absolute tard. You have no basketball intelligence whatsoever. Just stop posting. Its annoying to hear ur crap. We dont have much to offer for melo. They dont want deng back and his bad contract. We have noah. Thats about it. And picks. u jsut need to sit the next few plays out

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    and btw, basketball is a team game. Comparing player by player at every position doesnt necessary determine the winner. And you completely disregarded bench and depth. Which the heat have none of. We have a ton of. Are wade lebron and bosh going to play 48 minutes a night for an 82 game season and playoffs?

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    You need to FACE REALITY that you are an uneducated basketball mind who probably never played any competitive basketball past middle school. You got pretty defensive there with ur little name calling. post only when u have something smart to say, which will probably be never

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    BSamps,

    I clearly know more about NBA and NCAA basketball than you.

    I wasn't getting defensive, I was trying to get your attention.

    It worked.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    and how do u clearly know more than me? you havent shown that with ur stupid stat comparisons and retarded trade proposals. U know nothing about the game of basketball. Have you ever even played competitive basketball in ur life?

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    Actually, he's the self-proclaimed "NBA expert" around these parts...(emphasis on "self-proclaimed")

  • In reply to evilhoban:

    I would put a big emphasis on the "self proclaimed" part. cause I dont think anyone else is buying it or proclaiming that themselves.

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    Agreed...

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    BSamps,

    The NBA is a player's league.

    MATCH-UPS and talent level matter.

    Don't act CLUELESS!!!

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    No crap they matter. Im just questioning your comparison of players one to one based on position. u dont seem to understand the game at all

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Without taking into account team defense and minutes? Who's acting clueless? Too many factors....

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    BSamps,

    I'm a realist not a tard.

    Who's naming calling now?

    Try a Jr. College basketball blog. That's more your speed.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Happy (nice name by the way fag)-
    trust me, i know more about the nba then u will ever know. ive read ur posts, which everyone rips on btw, and they show ur lack of knowledge of a realistic world

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    HEAD-to-HEAD:

    Derrick Rose vs. Mario Chalmers

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=rosede01&p2=chalmma01

    Rose needs to step his game up against him.

    Chalmers plays vs. Rose like Hinrich played vs. Wade.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=hinriki01&p2=wadedw01

    Not having Kirk Hinrich to guard Dwyane Wade could be a very bad thing for the Bulls.

    Maybe they can get him to do a buy-out in Washington. Just a thought.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Stats are not for interpreting directly. Mathematically, they have to be fed into a complex formula to determine the impact and it cannot be done by you or me. The formula probably will have multiple things...time played, help defense, team strengths, team defensive strategy, home court, back to back game, injuries, shots taken and much much more..I am not a math genius to come up with that formula and that's why they have the coaches to plan and coach.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    schaum,

    Things don't need to be over-analyzed here.

    HEAD-to-HEAD, the Bulls don't match-up with the Miami Heat.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Did I miss the press conference.

    Starting with the 2010 season games will no longer be 5 on 5, instead there will be a series of 1 on 1 matches, and rosters will be limited to the 5 starters.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Yup they annnounced it this morning, mr happy is really happy because now his dumb little stat comparisons make at least a little sense

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    BSamps,

    Don't be NAIVE and childish like the you know who.

    Stats aside, you know as well as I do that LBJ and DWADE are far and away better than Deng and Brewer.

    The Bulls are over-matched.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    and the heat are overmatched at two positions as well with rose and noah and u can call boozer and bosh a push, so there u go. still its a team game, stop making ur dumb one on one arguements

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Bigway,

    Don't be naive.

    The NBA is a players league. Match-ups matter.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    schaum,

    Forget the stats.

    Who has the better talent? Miami or Chicago?

    The Bulls will have a hard time matching up with the Miami Heat Brewer and Deng raise their games to All-Star levels and Rose finds away to solve Chalmers' defense on him.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I dont recall chalmers ever d'ing rose up. Except maybe in the national championship, I dont recall that though. You never stop saying dumb things do you happy? deng and brewer dont need to be all stars to have a chance at beating miami. we may very well have the other 3 in our starting line up be all stars

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    and if he did that was in college, chalmers cant guard d rose in the nba

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    If the Bulls do sign someone at the wing with the $3 Mil left that will be something to comment about. All this attention being paid to one blogger, and just ridiculously immature arguments.
    This is a nice blog/posting site that Doug created, and Mark now is in charge of.

    Let's not turn this into Loserville. If there's not much to talk about then find something else to do. Arguing with some poor schmuck who is lonely and craves attention.. not the best way to spend your summer. Come on.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    RoadWarrior,

    Calm down and relax.

    Wasting our time with talk about Kurt Thomas is pointless.

    The real NUTS and BOLTS issue understanding that the Bulls can't COMPETE with the Heat or the Lakers at the SG and SF positions. Until they can, they WON'T WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP.

    You may like MEDIOCRITY and LOSING, but I don't.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    RoadWarrior,

    Dealing with evildope and Kenyalla is bordering on Loserville.

    I'm done with those two children.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    So you are saying that the only way to win a championship is to compete or dominate at all 5 positions on the floor at the same time.

    That is why Luc Longley, Jud Beuchler, Stacey King, Scott Williams, and your buddy Dickie Simpkins all have multiple rings.

    and Steve Kerr has 5, and Robert Horry has more than anyone in our lifetimes 7.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I expect Flip Murray to be back...it would be nice to bring somebody from last years roster back.

  • In reply to joeacook3:

    M.O.N,

    Do the Bulls really need another UNDER-SIZED SG, who can't defend the SG position?

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    LUOL DENG TRADE IN 2010-2011:

    This could be the year to DUMP Luol Deng.

    AVAILABLE SF's (with Expiring Contracts):

    - Andrei Kirkilenko...they need SF depth.
    - Shane Battier...they need SF depth.
    - Peja Stojakovic...they need SF depth.
    - Tayshaun Prince...they need SF depth.

    * Cleveland needs a SF...they have West, Parker and Telfair holding ex. contracts.

    I don't know if CARMELO ANTHONY will take things to free agency, because of the new NBA collecting bargaining agreement ready to take shape, but if he does, I hope the Bulls would clear out Loul Deng's contract to make a run at him.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Somehow I can't see Carmelo as a Bull. I'm hoping Deng looks at a lot of film this summer to address his poor shot selection. That said I think he'll be a pleasant surprise. p.s. I can't fault the Bulls signing Kurt Thomas.

    Breakout year for Deng!!!

  • In reply to thegreatlie:

    Logic,

    I can see Melo as a Chicago Bulls player.

    Keep in mind, everybody was saying LBJ was coming to Chicago and that didn't happen. Well, everybody is saying that Melo will end up in NYC, but that isn't a guarantee.

    Melo would fit in great with Rose, Brewer, Boozer and Noah.

    He would make the Bulls instant title contenders.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    so clear out one of ur better players for a chance at melo? how did that turn out for us this year with lebron wade and bosh? If melo leaves via free agency he will most likely go to new york. He is a new york guy, born in brooklyn and played ball in syracuse. dont suggest doing that again. would rather go the trade rout where he would be more likely to re-sign

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    BSamps, I couldn't agree with you more.

  • In reply to thegreatlie:

    Logic,

    The Bulls don't MATCH-UP right now vs. the Heat at SF.

    LBJ destroys Deng head-to-head. Melo actually owns LBJ.

  • In reply to thegreatlie:

    Logic,

    It's a bad agreement then.

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    BSamps,

    I'm hoping the Bulls could use Deng to get Melo, but I'm not sure they can.

    Therefore, they should clear out Deng's salary so they will have a better chance at signing him.

    As I said, THE BULLS DON'T MATCH-UP with the HEAT at SF right now.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Mr Happy, you're certainly right about Melo's many attributes. I just don't see it happening. I agree he would be a great fit though.

  • In reply to thegreatlie:

    Logic,

    High risk; High reward.

    I can't see the Bulls winning a championship with Deng as their starting SF. He's just not living up to his potential. Let's remember that he was the #2 high school recruit behind LBJ a few years back.

    Now, if the traded Deng for expiring contracts and whiffed on Melo via free agency next summer, there are still some quality replacements out there.

    - Kelenna Azubuike (UFA in '11)
    - Caron Butler (UFA in '11)
    - Shane Battier (UFA in '11)
    - Andrei Kirilenko (UFA in '11)
    - Peja Stoyakavic (UFA in '11)
    - Sam Young (RFA in '11)

    And I'm sure there are some nice prospects in the draft.

    The bottom-line is, the Bulls can't match-up with Miami or the Lakers. If it's all about WINNING, then they need to add another SUPERSTAR to the mix.

    The best guy that could be available is MELO.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    you and your sam young obessesion. Did you lose your virginity to him or something?

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    BSamps,

    I through Sam Young in for entertainment value.

    He's under contract with Memphis.

    Relax.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    no u didnt, ur trying to trade deng and come up empty with melo in Free agency then sign one of these players, sam young included. So you think young is better than deng? and Peja? YOu buthchered his last name btw. Not one of those players on that list is better than deng, only argument is butler but he is older

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    and you did not deny losing your V card to him btw. Was it any good?

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    BS,

    Are you a child?

    Enjoy your Happy Meal.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    not a child and dont get happy meals like u do apparently, im just wondering about ur sam young experience, its intrieging

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    BS,

    They have to try for Melo, don't they?

    Much like they tried for DWADE and LBJ.

    Wouldn't Melo be an UPGRADE to Deng?

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    obviously he would be, and if it comes down to next offseason and he is a free agent then ya go for him, but dont jeopordize your secess this season or in the future for it. if they can sign him im sure they can pull a sign and trade to some team or antoher for deng with denver getting either deng or a prospect from us with deng going to a third team, but it would be absolutly stupid to trade him for the crap that you are suggesting

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    BSamps,

    Those guys I mentioned aren't crap.

    - Kirilenko...is not crap.
    - Peja...is not crap.
    - Battier...is not crap.
    - C. Butler...is not crap.

    Granted Deng might be better than them, but they certainly can produce in the NBA.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    peja can no longer produce in the nba even close to what he used too. The bulls have no need for him and would never want him, he is a slow 33 year old. AK and battier are defensive guys, you seem to be worried so much about points why would you want them? Niether one compares to deng. Butler, like i said, is the only close comparison.

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    QUESTION:

    What starting lineup has a better chance to beat the Lakers and/or Heat?

    A.) Rose, Brewer, Deng, Boozer and Noah
    or
    B.) Rose, Brewer, Melo, Boozer and Noah

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Lineup "A" because they will have better chemistry and ball sharing than Lineup "B" :-)
    See every question can have 2 different answers. It is ridiculous you keep making the same point. As they say, when the time comes, the Bulls will cross that Melo bridge but for now you have to play with what you have. Discuss on what are the positive aspects of the Bulls and see how others match-up.
    There is no way Carmelo is going anywhere especially with the events of LBJ, Chris Paul...There will be a big backlash against the NBA/Stern...If I were you, I would stop worrying about what we don't have and see what are the best lineups of what we have...

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    schaum,

    That's just STUBBORNESS on your part.

    The Bulls would be a better team with MELO and you know it.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    And this blog would be better without you.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    Kenyalla,

    Don't forget to turn the fries over.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    IMO We should get T.O. instead of TMac. j/k

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Heres my thing, I love what the Bulls have done.BUT...when we do play against the Heat...we cant forget about how many fouls Wade, Bron and Bosh all can draw against us. I love our defense but what happens when Brewer picks up 2 quick fouls in the 1st quarter because Wade an Bron bully their way into the lane and get the foul call. Then....at that point the Bulls are screwed imo.

    As much as i dont really care for the addition of Tracy McGrady...he is still the best player available right now...an he fills a need.Having the guy on the floor makes the Bulls that much more dangerous because everybody knows who he is...he use to be the scoring champ. Defenses will have to respect whether he is or isnt a good 3pt shooter. The Bulls also need some scoring on our bench because right now...we really dont have any besides Korver? and Watson.

    Put Shannon Brown on this team...and he might give you 5-7ppg or so...couple highlights here an there, but he is pretty much the same player as Ronnie Brewer...super athlete with not a very good jumper. I dont buy all the talk about Tmac being a locker room cancer...i thikn the guy realizes no body wants him. If he can come here...hit some wide open 3's, create shots for others and himself when the bench is in. I think he would deff. help us out. We need some bench scoring somewhere. Plus like we all are saying...the Bulls arnt going to win anything anytime soon anyway...take a small chance that could be a big reward. If KC johnson is right tho...he wont sign him.

  • In reply to Csharp:

    McGrady IS still the most talented at the position even after his injury history, but are the potential attitude and team chemistry issues worth the risk?
    If McGrady is in even half way decent shape, I don't think many people are going to say that Brown, Butler, or Mason have more talent.

    If there's any doubt, you have to pass on TMac, it's just too risky.

    The only reason that I think I'm gonna go with Brown for my top option is that he can shoot a decent 3pt shot, and I think his overall game has improved in his two years with LA. He has something to prove now, it's time for him to take the next step.
    Mason isn't a bad choice either ... but I don't think I like Butler. His shooting is not good and that's something we could really use backing up a defensive specialist like Brewer.

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    Silverwulf,

    "McGrady is still the most talented at the position"

    How do you figure that?

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Silverwulf,

    I can't wait to have a rational debate about that FOOLISH statement.

    I'll pass...thank you. It's a wast of time because it CRAZY talk.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    You realize I'm talking about the remaining options right?

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    Silverwulf,

    He's better than Josh Howard?

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    That's a closer call ... Howard has talent and TMac "might" have dipped that far.
    I remember the first time I saw Howard in a summer league game ... his talent was very obvious.
    But I don't like Howard at all ... mostly attitude issues ... so I don't even have him as an option right now.

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    Silverwulf,

    I don't think he is an option either, but it's hard to deny he still has talent. Quite possibly more than TMAC.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    No, he doesn't. And it's not even close.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    This coming from a person who doesn't watch basketball.

    Where's the IGNORE button on here?

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    I wouldn't have a problem with the Bulls taking a chance on McGrady.

    I'm also in the camp that believes games are played for a reason. I'm not ready to hand Miami the Eastern conference, nor to say they match up better against the Bulls. Games aren't played on paper. The Bulls are a young team who can definitely make strides at improving. Thomas brings some experience and toughness. Can't wait until the opener!!! p.s. I've got my hat ready.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Because no matter what his physical state might be ... and there's no doubt that he doesn't have the athleticism he used to ... or the athleticism of a guy like Shannon Brown.
    That still doesn't take away from the enormous talent he's always had for getting the ball in the basket.
    I've never really likes TMac ... I don't like the selfish ball hog type of players. Ones who score big, but do so inefficiently.
    But he always had great talent, and always gave you more rebounds and assists than anyone outside of a guys like Kobe, Lebron, and Wade.
    He doesn't play defense, but but with Brewer at the SG position, I wouldn't be as concerned about that.

    Anyway ... In terms of sheer talent, McGrady will probably always have more than the any of those other guys.

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    Silverwulf,

    It's hard for me to get behind those statements when McGrady hasn't produced in just over 2 seasons.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Happy, I can think of another pretty good SG that came back after being away for a year and a half at the age of 31 and still seemed to have plenty of talent left.

    And yes, I know Tmac is no Jordan ... but if we're just talking about whether 2 years away from the game is going to take away his talent, I don't think so.

    The athleticism will never be the same ... but age doesn't take away scoring talent like McGrady had.

    It doesn't really matter much to me, I'd be just as satisfied with Brown or Mason.

    But for a cheap contract over a year or two, and if you're reasonably sure there won't be attitude or team chemistry issues ... I'm not sure it would kill the team to give it a shot.

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    Silverwulf,

    Well, if the Bulls do in fact sign TMAC, as his twitter messages are indicating, let's hope he becomes COMEBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Indeed ... let's hope.
    Let's hope that he's satisfied with the role we need him to play. That would go a long way to making me more comfortable with the situation.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    PRO MCGRADY CAMP:

    - Vedo
    - csharp
    - Logic
    - Derrick Rose

    Anyone else?

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    hahahaha we'll have more people join shortly.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I'm gonna have to stay neutral at this point.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Derrick Rose is about as pro McGrady as you are a pro basketball player, or prognosticator for that matter.

    But I guess that you have to grasp at any and every straw, no matter how thin it is.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Bigway,

    Apparently, you didn't read the article on ESPNCHICAGO.

    He also shares the same agent with McGrady.

    Do your research.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    QUESTION:

    How far does this team go this year?

    PG - Rose/Watson
    SG - Brewer/McGrady
    SF - Deng/Korver/Johnson
    PF - Boozer/Gibson
    C - Noah/Thomas/Asik

    Predictions?

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    If they all stay healthy and everything goes according to plan, I'll give them 60+ wins.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I'm predicting a 53 win season and #3 seed for the Bulls. I thought they were a 46-47 win team last year without the injuries.

    They get to the second round pretty easily ... probably taking on the Bucks or Hawks. They have a tough matchup in the second round and I see them having a slim chance to move to the ECF.

    Miami - 25-30% chance to move on.
    Orlando - 40% chance to move on.
    Boston - 50% chance to move on.

    If all goes very well and we managed to get to the ECF, I don't think we're quite ready to make the Finals.
    Give us another year and maybe a couple changes to the team and we might be ready to compete for a spot in the championship.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    wow 60? idk

  • In reply to sharynlewis:

    probably a firm 60. As long as they stay healthy, I really think they could. Look what CLE did and IMO they didn't have a team better than the one we have now.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    CHRIS PAUL TO ORLANDO?

    http://twitter.com/STEIN_LINE_HQ/status/19379939901

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    SCARY STUFF:

    Vince Carter and his $18 million is NON-GUARANTEED after this year.

    TRANSLATION: They could possibly add Carmelo Anthony.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Not with the cap...they'd have to trade off everyone else!

  • In reply to evilhoban:

    I hope you are right.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Say it AINT so...Jannero Pargo back with the Bulls...huh...what?

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/ct-spt-0724-bulls-chicago--20100723,0,5374925.story

    14 Man-roster?

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    How about Mardy Collins? He's got the same agent as MELO.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Happy, I thought you were sharp till reading this particular post. T-Mac doesnt have it anymore and would disrupt this team trying to prove he has. Plus you keep repeating over and over and over the same point.Like a chatty Cathy doll with a pull string. We aint getting Melo, and we arent beating the Lakers or the Heat. Sometimes you just have to realize, time will tell how good we get, but we arent good enough yet and Melo aint being traded here.

  • In reply to stinger226:

    Cathy-stinger,

    I am sharp.

    I'm not on the T-MAC bandwagon. I don't play with dolls. You on the otherhand, I'm not sure.

    You don't know what Melo is going to do. Nor do I. And we both agree the Bulls aren't good enough to beat the Lakers or the Heat.

    FYI: I think I saw an add in the paper where KEN DOLLS are on sale. You might want to go get one Cathy.

  • In reply to stinger226:

    cathy-stinger,

    One more thing. Know what I said, before you comment on it.

    Have fun playing with your dolls.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    MrHappy, how do you envision Orlando using VC's expiring contract to add Carmelo?

    Orlando has ~$92 mil in guaranteed salary for this season. This number goes up to $97 mil next year (including VC's contract). With VC's expiring deal plus Anderson's team option, they'll save $20 mil but will still be $19 mil over the cap and $7 mil over the luxury tax line.

  • In reply to Soji17:

    Soji,

    I'm not a cap expert. That's Doug's department.

    Just a little panic on my part.

    All this business of SUPER-TEAMS is cluttering my mind.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Also, we don't have anything to trade for a nice 2 guard so he has to be the best available option.

  • In reply to Vedo:

    Vedo,

    They have CASH, picks, Dickey Johnson and I believe some form of a trade exception.

    Certainly something could get done if the Bulls' management chose a non-CONSERVATIVE approach.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Vedo,

    In all honestly, do any of these older guys WOW you in anyway?

    By older guys I mean McGrady, Howard, Butler, Mason Jr., House, Murray, etc.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Vedo,

    Even Shannon Brown doesn't excite me as a player.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    But if the Bulls do get him I hope he can still play and wont breakup team chemistry, that is if we have any because we have yet to see this team play together. Positives would be if he is a cancer and is no longer serviceable they can always NOT play him and/or send him home because its not like we will be giving him a long term contract with big time$.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Happy,

    To answer the question NO, not at all. Howard and McGrady have been All Stars though. Howard can't play until mid season anyway. He's not coming back from that surgery right away, at least it's what I hear. McGrady has been working out and I think he's finally ready. IMO, he's the best option out there. If somehow we could pull off a trade and get a younger shooting guard to come off the bench I might change my mind, but I don't see that happening.

  • In reply to Vedo:

    Vedo,

    I don't see a trade happening either. I hope they surprise me.

    I would hate to see the Bulls' brass make their 1st bad deal of the summer. When I say bad I mean in terms of money and lack of production.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Vedo,

    Actually change $ to years of contract.

  • In reply to Vedo:

    Vedo +2 couldnt agree more with you

    MR Happy...im not really big into coming up with trades...but i do like Nick Young, hes a nice talented young offensive player. Rudy Fernandez is alright but i wouldnt give more then James Johnson an a 1st for him. Im not sure Memphis wants to deal Sam Young...he had a great summer league and he is a solid player, but they do have a lot of wings on that team.

    IF were only looking at FA and thats it...i think its down to Shannon Brown an TMac. Unless Shannon Brown has become a really good outside shooter. I think you gotta take Tmac. Just having him on the court makes defenses honest, opens up the lane for Rose. Like i said before....if Shannon Brown is at the 3pt line an Tmac is at the 3pt...Im running at Tmac every time...not sure about Shannon Brown. Tmac will help space the floor for us i think.

  • In reply to Csharp:

    csharp,

    SETTLING for what's left is a cop-out in my opinion. I hope a trade is coming.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    csharp,

    Careful when you praise SAM YOUNG. I wouldn't want people chastising you for bringing up his name, yet alone saying something good about the guy.

    For some reason, you and I are the only ones on here that recognize his talent.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    MrHappy,

    I neither for or against Tmac because of what I just posted. Either way I am happy with what the Bulls have done since the miami debacle. Theres always trades that can be made we. Im just optimistic about this time because we should be very exciting. Either way Drose said that he thinks Tmac can help the Bulls according to a report on Espn Chicago. So if Drose wants Tmac then he may just became a BULL. Either way i just cant wait for the season to start. I wont be mad if we sign him.

  • In reply to sharynlewis:

    bully,

    Keep HOPE alive....haha.

  • In reply to Csharp:

    HAHAHA csharp, I think it's just me and you on this one. TMAC has said countless times that he loves this roster which tells you he knows what his role will be here, and that's to come off the bench and score, it's what he does best. He knows he's not young anymore. He just stated it in his last tweet. The guy wants to win and he knows out of all the teams he's interested in going to its gotta be the Bulls. I really hope he shows that he's still got something left on Monday and we sign him.

    Per McGrady:

    "yeah, came down 2 bulls / magic n '00...yall can understand my desire 2 play @ "home" back then...maybe things diff this go round.. da bulls"

    http://twitter.com/TheReal_TMAC

    He wants to come here...now the ball is in the management's court.

  • In reply to Csharp:

    This is a little surprising ...

    http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=5405427

    I wouldn't have expected that.

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    Ok, I was wrong now its me, csharp and d.rose for TMAC to the Bulls. LOL

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    Silverwulf,

    Has Rose ever said anything negative about anybody?

    I'm not sure.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Happy,

    Good point, D.Rose. And it really doesn't matter. Mgmt. makes the decision. oh and LeBron too LOL

  • In reply to Vedo:

    Vedo,

    Anybody got a HOT TUB TIME MACHINE?

    (TMAC in his prime...2000)

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    Silverwulf,

    I like how DROSE said, "I'm my favorite player now."

    What happened to the modesty? haha

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I don't mind him getting a little more self confident if you're going to be a superstar in the NBA you have to believe in yourself ... and no, he's not really one to talk badly about anyone else.

    My surprise is more along the lines of the fact that he's kinda stayed out of the recruiting process ... and this doesn't bother me, I just didn't expect it.

  • In reply to Vedo:

    It just seems like it would be a big mistake. I think he would be on a team right now if he was a serviceable SG at this point in his career.

  • In reply to sharynlewis:

    bully,

    You said it.

  • In reply to sharynlewis:

    bully,

    There's that word HOPE again. Careful. I got chastised for using it earlier.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    bullybullzphan,

    Pass on both.

  • In reply to Csharp:

    csharp,

    If Tracy McGrady is the best WING PLAYER available, via free agency, wouldn't a trade be a better option then? Why settle for the CONSERVATIVE approach?

  • In reply to Csharp:

    When will all you people(former Ben Gordon fans) realize that TMac, AI and Shaq are all the same guy, i.e. poison. they just play different positions

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I like the signing of Kurt Thomas.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I have a deal for you:

    you get the Nuggets to trade us Melo for Deng and you can keep posting your ludicrous suggestions on this site.

    Until that happens you no longer have posting privileges on this site.

    Time for you to MAN UP, what do you say.

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    BETTER QUESTION:

    Do the Bulls have a better chance at beating the Lakers and/or Heat with Melo or w/o him?

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    They would have a better chance of beating them with Wilt, Michael, Kareem, Magic, Hakeem...

    and the odds of acquiring Melo are barely better than the odds of adding any one of them, including Wilt, who is no longer with us.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    to start, you dont need to have a better player at every position to beat a team, I'm not sure why you are still harping on that position by position battle, ya it matters but not like u are making it out to be.

    Trust me, I would love Melo with the bulls and think he is a better fit than Lebron would have been. I am a huge melo fan, him and rose are actually my two favorite nba players (well Allen Iverson but he might not be in the league for to much longer). But i just dont see it happening, via trade or free agency so i dont see why you would trade a solid player in deng for expiring contracts and screw yourself out of contention or using him in the future for another trade say when deng only has one or two more years left on his contract

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    BSamps, once again we are in agreement.

  • In reply to thegreatlie:

    Logic,

    And you would be wrong just like BS.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Logic Prisoner seems to be one of the poeple on this blog who have some logic, unlike you Happy. How are we wrong, please enlighten us with your vast knowledge?

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    BSamps,

    Read what Reesel has to say down below.

    He knows the TRUTH.

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    BSamps,

    What has Deng accomplished, while being on the Bulls?

    Not very much.

    That's why it's worth going after an elite ,like Melo.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Let's see, he was one of our best players with gordon and hinrich on a team that won close to 50 games on a couple occasions. One of those teams sweap miami (defending champs). He has had a solid, not great career so far in chicago. He was our second best scoring option last year behind rose and arguably our second best player (i love noah but he is getting a lot of love for one good year). He has solid averages for his career(you love your stats). So why give him away for nothing at all. When you can compete with him now and maybe move him next year or the year after when his contract will only have a year or 2 left on it and you can pick up a valuable assset down the road. Maybe a marque player. But for some reason you would rather throw him away for nothing and come up emtpy again in free agency with melo like lebron bosh and wade this year. That is assuming he doenst re up with that extentsion in denver. But ya good idea, give away an asset for nothing and hope we get melo, but more likely than not end up not getting him. You should be the bulls gm.

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    BS,

    It's doesn't matter what Deng's status is on the Bulls. Around the NBA, he doesn't compare or match-up to LBJ or MELO.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    no one ever said he needed to (except you). we have one of the best up and coming point guards in the league. d rose will be better than wade within two years no doubt. and he has the opportunity to be a top five to eight player in the league

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    BSamps,

    Hopefully that comes true.

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    OMER ASIK vs. PAU GASOL:

    Did anybody see this video?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RHPrjL-Hq4

    I actually saw this game when it was on. Asik does have some promise.

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    QUESTION:

    How do you get Carmelo Anthony?

    #1.) Hope to God he doesn't sign an extention in Denver.
    #2.) Add one or two more TRADE-able pieces to the roster.
    #3.) Be in 1st Place in the Central Division at the trade-deadline.
    #4.) Hope to God that Denver is struggling in their Division...they should.
    #5.) Put together a great trade package and make it happen.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Your plan involves a whole lot of HOPE and not much SUBSTANCE.

  • In reply to muhammond:

    You forgot to mention that #2 and #5 are the same thing and can't happen with current roster/salary cap (unless you're giving up Rose), #3 is irrelevant and #4 won't happen.

    Oh... and #1 is most likely to happen. Other than that, this plan is rock solid.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    Amen brother. Could not agree with you more. love the last comment too.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    Kenyalla,

    #2 and #5 are related, but aren't the same thing.

    #3 is relevant.

    Let's say Melo decides to leave Denver. Should he go to the Bulls, a first place team, or the Knicks a team that might not be in the playoffs?

    Positive impressions matter.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    He'll go to the Knicks to play with his friends....just like Ja-Bron-i.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    if he is leaving by a trade like ur suggesting it doesnt matter where he wants to go based on standings, it matters where the denver nuggets would send him in a trade. ur making no sense

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    Melo,

    Not true.

    Melo will dictate where he wants to go. It would suit the Bulls best interest to put themselves in an attractive position to get him.

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    MrHappy-
    Do you realize that no one seems to ever agree with you or your dumb ideas? Yet you continue to post about 50 comments on each blog. DO you have a life? Stop being so ignorant and hating on everyone

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    BS,

    Who's hating? It's not me. I'm just facing reality.

    Adding Kurt Thomas is INSIGNIFICANT in the grander scheme of things.

    The Bulls can't match-up with Dwyane Wade, who is a top OFFENSIVE and DEFENSIVE player in the NBA, as well as LeBron James, who is a top OFFENSIVE and DEFENSIVE player in the NBA.

    It's great the Bulls are making some nice improvements, but there is still a long way to go, in terms of this team reaching a CHAMPIONSHIP level.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    just cause you average nearly couple steals a game and a block a game doesnt make you a TOP defensive player. ya lebron and wade both get in the passing lane and make a spectatular block more games than not. however, niether one of them are a lock down defender like ur making them out to be. not to say that they cant be for a quarter or certain possessions but ur making them out to be the two best defenders in the league. some players who get a lot of steals arent necessarily good defenders. they just get in the lanes. Rando is a perfect example, he has KG to clean up his miscues. Who will clean up wades and lebrons? Bosh, Big Z? niether are great defenders. Anthony is ok but is not KG or perkins by any means. ur putting this whole team on a pedistool and making them unbeatable and its annoying. go find a miami heat blog to talk to heat fans about how much you want to blow lebron and wade.

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    BSamps,

    Is LBJ and DWADE on the All-Defensive team? Yes or No?

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    BSamps,

    Is LBJ and DWADE at the top of the NBA in scoring? Yes or No?

    Now, answer those questions for Brewer and Deng.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Correction: Are

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    1. How will Sam Young/Nick Young/Rudy F all matchup against LBJ/Wade? They have no chance and you want them as a Bull we don't get Melo? We saw the risk/reward thing with LBJ..
    2. All these awards are for reg season which LBJ will dominate against some poor "YOUNG" and get to be on the def team.
    3. Honestly, LBJ/Wade are two of the top 5 players in the NBA...so how much we cry we cannot top them at their positions. Does it mean, Reinsdorf fold up the Bulls and award the championship to the Heat just because they are better at a few positions on paper?
    4. Boston almost beat LA and Ray Allen shut down Kobe for the most part. On paper, Kobe is much better than Ray. And Pierce stopped LBJ and we know who dominates on paper in every category.
    BTW, LBJ dominates Kevin Durant on one-on-one matchup...Does this mean, we try to trade Kevin Durant because we can't matchup against LBJ???

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Schaum,

    You obviously missed my point on Sam Young.

    I said trade James Johnson for him, if possible.

    The Bulls need a #2 SG more so than a #3 SF.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Schaum,

    To your second point about Allen, Pierce and Garnett, we all know that Pierce, Allen and Durant are better players than Deng and Brewer.

    Those comparisons are weak.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Schaum,

    Read the questions I asked down below.

    I look forward to your answers.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    and sam young is a #2, or #3 SF so what is your point.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Some of you guys need to chill seriously. The Bulls are indeed building for the future and no they wont win a championship this year or probably the next either with the B.S. that Miami has pulled on the entire league but the Bulls have put themselves to be in a very good position to maybe go after Melo. I'm quite sure he is smart enough to know which teams to sign with in order to contend for a championship if he doesn't sign his extension with Denver. The Bulls job right now is to keep a good and competitive team for the next couple of years to show free agents like Carmelo to sign with them. These players now are going to want to win championships with the moves that Miami have made and they are not gonna want to go to teams that aren't close to winning a championship. The Bulls core players are young and in a couple of more years this Bulls team will be in the thick of contending for a championship barring injury and making all of the right moves. The Bulls or any of these other teams that had cap space weren't going to stop these guys from signing with Miami because they had already planned this. So as I stated, the Bulls have to make all of the right moves over the next couple of years to match Miami and Orlando cause they are obviously the 2 teams in the east that the Bulls are now chasing because of the Miami fiasco. The Bulls already have the pieces in place with the good signings that they made this off season so like I said it is now up to them to stay competitive and if Carmelo doesn't resign to go all in to persuade him to sign with the Bulls cause he will be looking to win a championship if he does decide to leave Denver. Everyone knows that Lebron was suppose to sign with the Bulls but he was obviously weak minded and let Riley and Wade get into his head and made him choose the wrong team so it set the Bulls back maybe 2 or 3 years in winning another championship. It is a step by step process and the Bulls with the off season moves they have made are moving in the right direction in overcoming Lebron's weak minded decision.

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Reesel,

    The only way the Bulls can get Carmelo via free-agency is if they DUMP Luol Deng for expiring contracts at the trade-deadline.

    That's assuming the Bulls couldn't use Deng in a trade for Melo.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Ok so if Melo wants to play with the Bulls then I'm quite sure the Bulls will trade Deng. But just like this free agency... Melo would have to want to play for the Bulls. You see these guys only want to play for certain teams, no one can make them go to a certain team if they are free agents. EXAMPLE...LEBRON WADE BOSH. No one can say where they can go BOTTOM LINE

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Reesel,

    I agree.

    Melo is in control of where he wants to play.

    However, the Bulls can maybe sway his decision by putting themselves in a good position to get him.

    - Add trade-able parts
    - Or free up Deng's contract
    - Be in 1st place at the trade-deadline

  • In reply to Reese1:

    Here's an idea-

    If you dont like someone's posts. Dont read them or respond.

    Its America.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Dmband,

    I'm taking that stance when it comes to CHILDISH IDIOCY.

    I certainly don't mind responding to differing viewpoints to mine.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    great english, but anyways yes they are because of both of there ability for the huge defensive play (i.e. block or steal) doesnt mean they are lock down defenders. u are putting them both on pedistools

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    BSamps,

    I made the correction.

    I already said I was bad at grammar, because I type too fast and don't edit my work. I'm sure you get the point.

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    Haven't seen so much pointless back and forth debating in quite awhile.
    So many half points and half arguments it's hard to keep track of who's half right and who's half wrong ...

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    Silverwulf,

    Since when is WINNING CHAMPIONSHIPS pointless?

    That's what I'm talking about.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Happy, you completely obscure the fact that you have a some truth to your argument by wrapping it in half truths, poorly thought out "facts" and points, and generally caring yourself like an ass. Makes it difficult to want to even bother to have a rational debate with you.

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    Silverwulf,

    That is completely false.

    My arguements are FACTUAL and completely valid, unlike yours.

    Don't be an ASS.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Well, if nothing else, you're still good for a couple laughs on this board.

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    Silverwulf,

    Nothing personal.

  • In reply to Silverwulf:

    Go get TMAC and call it a day. The man wants to come here and play. You have one true 2 guard on this team. He can come off the bench and play 20 min a game and just score. We need a 2 guard that can score. I don't buy this whole TMAC ruins team chemistry crap. These are grown men who wanna win, just give the guy a shot. You guys saw what he can do in that debut with NY. I think he came back a little too soon and he didn't fully succeed. We need a big name that can come in here and put the ball in his hands and score and who better to do it than him, especially off the bench. I don't like all the 2 guards that are left out there. Flip Murray? the dude goes like 3 for 15 in a game, what does that do for you? Roger Mason sucks, Rasual Butler doesn't impress me, Shannon Brown is good, but I don't think he can provide us with the shooting that we need on the floor. If he has a good workout for us on Monday and is willing to come in at a good price and off the bench, you should sign him. Sometimes you have to take risks to be awarded. We'll see what happens.

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    Correction: He only has one comment. He just posts it 50 times.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    Kenyalla,

    You aren't even worth the time of day. You have nothing productive to say about basketball, so don't bother me with your stupid comments.

    I'm done with your CHILDISH IDIOCY.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    haha very true

  • In reply to muhammond:

    PJ,

    I disagree.

    Melo hasn't made a decision one way or another about his future in Denver. The Bulls still have the $ and ability to add a one or two more trade-able assets. Based on the additions they have made, the Bulls should win their Division. Denver plays in a tougher division that includes OKC, PORTLAND and UTAH, so they may struggle a bit, especially if they can't get over some of their injury and health related issues. And finally, the Bulls do have some nice pieces to include in a trade for Melo. I would like them to add more, but we'll see.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    What makes you think Denver will struggle in that division? I'm really curious. Like they haven't been one of the top teams in the league the last few years and didnt give the Lakers a run for the money in the playoffs two years ago? They will have George Karl back and wont lose one key contributor on the team. Added some scoring in Al Harrington. Billups is a year older but still has a lot left. Utah digressed a bit with lossing boozer for al jefferson. There is no reason why denver wont be a top 2-4 team in the west again this year. They have won their division the past two season and dont see why they wouldnt compete again this year. Definitely a tough division but dont see ur little propsal going down like you want.

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    BSamps,

    Denver has to deal with OKC, Utah and Portland.

    Those are all pretty good teams.

    They battled them to an even record last year.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Denver had one of the best record if not the best record against the better teams in the league last year(teams over .500). That means they are going to struggle? How? Ya they battled them all for the best record in their division.

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    while dealing with injuries and a missing coach i might add. which with health and karl back they should be just fine

  • In reply to bsampso2:

    Check out by proposal above. I know everyone would cry bloody murder if Noah had to be part of the deal...but if we want Carmelo he has to be.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    On paper, it might look bad. But if Deng is healthy(that's a big IF), he matches up very well with Artest and LeBron.
    It is all about match-ups and the Bulls do pretty well. Acually, Boozer might not match-up well with Gasol. We can dream of Carmelo. But you also saw how the Nuggets lost to Utah or Chicago Jazz without Noah and Deng kind of players.
    That willpower to win is not there yet in Carmelo but we should get him if he is available. But just wishing or you expecting the Bulls to get him is not going to work.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Do not make value judgments about a guy's "willpower to win." That is just ridiculous. Denver did not have the youth or depth to compete in the West any more. Their window closed after L.A. knocked them out of the WCF two years ago. Plus, Andersen was on a bum knee the whole playoffs. And we all know what the combined knees of Nene & Martin look like. Many many stitches.

    And Deng does not match up "very well with Artest and LeQueen." He's a sufficient match but not a very good one, even if healthy. Both of those guys defense make Deng look like a D-Leaguer on the offensive side of the ball.

  • In reply to jt563905:

    Denver didn't even make it out of the first round against a depleted Jazz team with home court advantage. Off-course, his teammates were suspect but if that doesn't tell you about his "willpower", what else? He is talented and is not a young player like Rose learning the league. I am not saying Carmelo doesn't like to win but you have to look at somebody more skeptically if they don't even win in the first round.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    There is no I in team, buddy.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    If we sign Tmac....id say we could win anywhere from 55-60 games. I really think Tmac could help us. Id probably say 3rd seed BUT i think we would have a chance at the 2nd seed as well.

    Rose, CJ Watson, Lucas/Bouldin/Pargo
    Brewer, Tmac, Morris Almond
    Deng, Korver, James Johnson
    Boozer, Taj, Kurt Thomas
    Noah, Asik, Kurt Thomas

    I really like that team. Very competitive. Very good defensively. Tmac can help provide bench scoring for us. And i bet once the season starts going, Tmac will probably see alot of time at the end of games for us too.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    csharp,

    Those are some LOFTY expectations you have. I hope you are right.

    I just HOPE the Bulls win their Division and I'll take it from there.

  • In reply to jt563905:

    HEAD-to-HEAD:

    Deng vs. Artest

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=denglu01&p2=artesro01

    Deng vs. LBJ

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=denglu01&p2=jamesle01

    Consider the Lakers' depth and that's a -15 point difference the Bulls have to overcome.

  • In reply to jt563905:

    BLOG QUESTION:

    The questions Doug Thonus and Mark Deeks should be asking are these.

    #1.) How do the Bulls COMPETE at SG vs. Miami and LAL?
    #2.) How do the Bulls COMPETE at SF vs. Miami and LAL?

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    By getting two bloody good defenders at those positions; this is exactly what they've done.

  • In reply to MarkDeeks:

    I certainly hope that Brewer is a better defender than Deng, otherwise what was the point of signing him as a defensive wing.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Bigway,

    Brewer is a really good defender, but so are Wade and LeBron.

    The Bulls need more offense.

  • In reply to MarkDeeks:

    Mark,

    They have to score too. Points do matter.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    And they will, sugar. Luol Deng is a 17ppg scorer.

  • In reply to MarkDeeks:

    Happy would trade deng right now for a bag of sand, 2 shiny pennies, and a gym bag, i dont think he realizes deng is a top 8-12 SF in the league

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Kenyalla Wright vs. MrHappy (McDonald's)... MrHappy is SCREWED.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    Kenyalla,

    Based on your childish comments, you seem to be the one looking for a Happy meal.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Kenyella...don't insult yourself by giving him equal billing....

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    Wouldn't that make him McHappy? :)

  • In reply to evilhoban:

    I like McHappy. I think I'll go with that for awhile.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    You are right except that Gasol will shoot right over the top of Boozer, as was demonstrated in the playoffs this year. And Bynum will shoot right over the top of Noah if he's healthy. The Lakers are the team to beat. No one can match up with their front court. Adding Ratliff & Barnes just made them a better defensive team as well. I hate the Lakers but I can't wait to see them crush Miami.

  • In reply to jt563905:

    Tyrus,

    Exactly.

    Right now the Bulls don't match-up. That's a problem.

  • Mitchell,

    Explain how the Bulls have the better depth.

  • I agree. This is a good summation of all the points that people from NY and Hoston who have been around him have been making. Simply, he's a jag that could ruin this team's young, newly evolving/for a short time fragile chemistry. No f-ing way do I bring in McGrady. If the Bulls are trying him out to help he and his agent, a Bull's friend Arn Tellem, legitamize him, and get him signed somewhere then fine. But that's all this better be.

  • Mitchell,

    Offense matters to.

    Last I checked, Wade and LeBron aren't bad defenders and the Miami Heat has been a top defensive team in the league without LeBron and Bosh.

    So have the Lakers.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Here is the easy solution for you MrHappy. Become a Heat fan go on their blogs and bother their readers, if not stay and STFU for a change. I am tired of you dominating this otherwise good blog with your constant repetitive comments.

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