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After Redick, what next? (All this, hopefully.)

J.J. Redick's offer sheet was matched. Wesley Matthews went to Portland. Raja Bell went to Utah. Dwyane Wade was as serious as Barry Chuckle about coming here. Ray Allen re-signed. Anthony Morrow went to New Jersey. And Josh Shipp stayed in Turkey.

Shooting guard free agents are scampering all over the globe, but not one has come to Chicago. In fact, as things stand, the Bulls don't have a single shooting guard on the roster. In fact, they only have one guard in total; the insatiable Derrick Rose. Alongside him, there's nothing. Behind him, there's less.

Worse still, the remaining free agency shooting guard crop is about as attractive as leprosy on a warthog. Redick is not an irreplaceable player, but due to the make-up of the rest of the roster and the weakness of the remainder of the free agent market, he became an imperative signing. And we didn't get him.

But despair not, dear viewer. For faint heart ne'er won fair lady.
Based on whispers about the Bulls interest in players such as Tracy McGrady, Josh Howard and Adam Morrison, the Bulls seem willing (if not forced) to sign small forwards instead. In theory, they will either play those prospective players at shooting guard, or put Kyle Korver there instead. Either way, I don't like it.

We don't need a long term solution right away, and thus should not strain to do so. Despite the truly advantageous position into which we entered this offseason, it was never necessary to fill every long term goal in one offseason, and it still isn't. We need improvements - at this point, we need anything - but it doesn't need to be the perfect solution. And nor does it need to be done in one fell swoop.

With that in mind, there is nothing (except a possible lack of imagination) to stop the Bulls from taking the route that other teams have opted for in this situation. If there are no free agents around, or none that will sign with you, use your cap space in trades. And if you can't trade for the players you want, trade for assets that might get you them payroll. This is a young team. They can play the long game.

The distinct advantage to filling cap space via trade is that you can make trades without needing to send an equal amount in salary back. Teams with big payrolls who wish to trim salary need that relief, and teams with cap space love to take advantage of it. For proof of this, look no further than the Oklahoma City Thunder. In the span of the last three years, they have:

A) Received two first rounders from Phoenix in exchange for taking on Kurt Thomas's salary.
B) Traded up from #32 to #18 in this year's draft in exchange for taking on Daequan Cook's salary.
C) Traded up from #21 (and #26) to #11 in this year's draft in exchange for taking on Morris Peterson's salary.
D) Turned a second rounder into a first rounder by taking on Chucky Atkins's salary.

Et cetera.

Oklahoma City aren't the only team to do this. Memphis have also done it quietly and effectively in recent years, and the L.A. Clippers and Sacramento have done their own versions of it at times too. It's a good strategy that earns a team future assets for no significant short term detriment. It is a strategy that a team like the Bulls should explore.

And in the following ideas, they do.

Not too many teams are threatened by the luxury tax at the moment, due to the whole free agency thing. But one team that is is the two time defending champion L.A. Lakers. They are perfectly willing to play for their title-winning core, but when it comes to depth and extras, they look to trim salary. They ran with the minimum of 13 players last year purely to save money, and sold their first round draft pick in the 2009 draft in a money-saving scheme. (As it happens, they shouldn't have sold that first rounder; New York bought it and used it on Toney Douglas, who would have helped L.A. significantly last season. As would DeJuan Blair, who was also available at that pick. But I digress.)

Therefore, with their ever-present desire to trade excess salary alive and well, I propose the following trade; Sasha Vuajcic and the Lakers' 2011 first round draft pick in exchange for nothing at all.

[NB: teams can't actually give up nothing in a trade; they always have to give up "something." But they can still give up incredibly little. This is why Vladimir Veremeenko's draft rights were included in the Hinrich-to-Washington trade. They counted as "something." In fact, the Meenkster's rights could be the "something" in this trade, too. It'd mean a quick end to the Vladimir Veremeenko era, but I think I could handle that.]

For three years, Sasha Vujacic was a terrible player who couldn't do anything right. Billed as a "tall point guard," Vujacic soon showed that "tall" was about his only positive attribute. He was slow with the ball, couldn't drive, was fantastically bad on the fast break, had a sub-par jumpshot, and he couldn't play defense. It also quickly emerged that he couldn't dribble or pass. His only positive production came from very rarely turning the ball over, and yet even that was a direct side-effect of never trying to do anything with the ball. The outlook for Vujacic was, frankly, a bit bleak.

Then, Sasha grew his hair out long like a girl, probably on account of his first name. Suddenly, he became a feared jumpshooter off of the bench, a man you were genuinely concerned about when he came off the bench in big playoff moments. As unlikely as it was, it happened.

Then he started dating Maria Sharapova, got paid, and relapsed back to his former ways. Once again, he is no longer an NBA calibre player.

For the unwanted services of this 11th man, the Lakers are slated to pay $5,475,113 next season. That's a lot of money for a player that they don't want; it's even more so when you consider that number is doubled because of the luxury tax. Is it worth trading a first rounder to shift that $11 million, sacrificing a player who probably wouldn't play much anyway in a bid to keep your payroll below 9 figures? I think so.

More importantly, I think the Lakers think so too.

For the Bulls, Sasha would provide jumpshots, man-bags, and not a lot else. He would be at the end of the bench, a role player who could be called-upon if needed yet not in the nightly rotation because he's just not good enough. But he should be able to provide some decent situational jumpshooting, something which you can never waste too much of. And he's also an expiring contract, which therefore means he could be readily used again in a trade later in the year should something desirable avail itself. Plus, they get a free first round pick.

Considering that a late 20's pick landed us Taj Gibson, the usefulness of that asset is presumably obvious.

Applying the same logic to a different situation, the Indiana Pacers are also a financially burdened team. Years of pointless and directionless mediocrity, salvaged only by the drafting of Danny Granger, have seen them win only 36, 36 and 32 games in the last three years. And next year, they're going to do much the same.

At the moment, Indiana's only point guards on the roster are T.J. Ford and A.J. Price. Ford played a lot with the Pacers to begin last season, but ended up being Tim Thomassed and was DNP-CD'd for six straight weeks. And A.J. Price currently has a broken knee cap. That is it - those are their horses. The team seem convinced that recently drafted Cincinnati shooting guard Lance Stephenson will help alleviate their point guard problem, but I am thoroughly unconvinced by that.

It follows, therefore, that Indiana will be looking for some point guard help. But there's a problem there. Despite their constant mediocrity, Indiana has no money to spend; without even having signed Stephenson yet, they already have a payroll for next season of $68 million. They have needs at every position at small forward, including the most notable point guard hole, and yet they can't afford to fill them.

Indiana's only chance at breaking out of this Fred Funk lies in the 2011 free agency period. For all their gross expense on unworthy players this summer, a boatload of that money is expiring; $42 million of expiring can be found between Troy Murphy, Mike Dunleavy, Ford, Jeff Foster and the long-since-bought-out Jamaal Tinsley alone. Their only players on the cap for the 2011/12 season at the moment are Granger, Price, Paul George, Roy Hibbert, Tyler Hansbrough, Brandon Rush and Dahntay Jones. Four of those players are on rookie scale contracts, and Price is earning the minimum. Next summer, they will be able to spend.

However, Dahntay Jones's inclusion on that list is a little......unnecessary. Jones is a veteran backup shooting guard on a team not short of wing options; even next season, with only six other players on the payroll, three of them play on the wings. Indiana just don't need Dahntay Jones, and certainly not as much as they need every possible dollar in 2011 in a bid to finally break out of this despondent pusillanimity.

Jones joined the Pacers last season from the Denver Nuggets, where he had made a reputation as a defensive stopper. Indiana soon found out that that reputation was unfounded, but not until they had given him a 4 year, $10.6 million contract. Jones is capable of playing some pretty good perimeter defense, but only sometimes; they were expecting Bruce Bowen, yet they got Keith Bogans. With a foul problem.

However, to make up for that, Jones demonstrated a hitherto unexpected offensive game. He can't shoot threes and never could, but Jones demonstrated a decent long two point jumpshot, which, if nothing else, is better than having a bad long two point jumpshot. Jones is also decent at finishing around the basket, particularly with the dunk, which is fun if not especially meaningful. He cannot create his own shot and his dribble drive game is far from pretty, but in running the court and blind assertiveness, Jones was able to get to the lane, where good things occasionally happened. Through the first 16 games of the season, Jones scored 16 points per game, not a bad infusion of scoring from a guy signed as a defensive specialist.

The novelty soon wore off, however, and Jones lapsed back to being as inconsistent as his minutes. He finished up the season with averages of 24 minutes, 10.2 points, 3.0 rebounds, 2.0 assists, 1.7 turnovers and 3.1 fouls per game, shooting 46% from the field and 13% from three. He had a PER of 10.8, average but inconsistent defense, problems with fouling and consistency, and no outside jumpshot at a position where you really need one.

You don't need a player like that obstructing your cap room. Therefore, trade idea number 2 involves Indiana trading Jones to the Bulls, along with their 2011 second rounder, in exchange for another healthy mouthful of nothing at all. How about Mario Austin's draft rights this time?

(In my mind, Indiana then follows up that trade by trading T.J. Ford to Golden State to Dan Gadzuric, opening up a further $1.5 million in 2010/11 salary room. They then package Brandon Rush and Solomon Jones to Minnesota in exchange for Ramon Sessions and Greg Stiemsma, and then put forward a 3 year, $8 million or so offer sheet for Will Bynum. They then start Sessions, Dunleavy, Granger, Murphy and Hibbert, with Bynum, George, McRoberts, Hansbrough and Foster off the bench. And they use only about $2 million of next year's cap room to do it. These are the things I think about.)

The addition of Jones and Vujacic give the Bulls two backup shooting guards, yet still without landing a starter, and it cost them $8 million to do it. They got two picks, but those picks should both be in the 20-40, which probably leads only to two more backups. They therefore have only $3.8 million (approximately) to get a backup point guard, one more shooting guard, and one more old fart big man.

To fill the backup point guard spot, I propose that $1.8 million of that go to former Heat, Nets and Magic guard Keyon Dooling, in a two year deal worth roughly bi-annual exception money.

Dooling is an athletic point guard, strong defensively and in transition, whose jumpshot is streakier than a naked Tim Thomas but who contributes offensively anyway. He is far more effective in the full court than the half court, but he can score in isolation, making him one of only two such players on the Bulls roster to do so. The jumpshot is not great, but it's improved over the years, and Dooling boasts a career three point percentage of .351. Last year for the Nets, he averaged 6.9 points and 2.5 assists per game, while also playing good defense; 2 years and $3.8 million sounds like the perfect price for that level of production.

As for the additional shooting guard, I implore the Bulls to look overseas, in particular to former Spurs draft pick Romain Sato.

Sato was drafted by the Spurs in 2004 ut of Xavier, and immediately signed with the team. He played there for half a season, appearing in 0 games and totalling 0 minutes, 0 points, 0 rebounds and 0 assists before being waived in February 2005. In the five years hence, bar one month in Spain, Sato has spent all of his time in Italy.

Sato has spent the last four years with Montepaschi Siena, the current giant of Italian basketball. Siena have won the Serie A championship in all four years that Sato has been there, and Sato has been a big part of why. Last season, Sato averaged 14.7ppg, 4.3rpg, 1.2apg and 1.8spg in 26.8 minutes per game, shooting 52% from the field and 44% from three point range. The three point percentage comes on four attempts per game, so it's no fluke; in 2008-09, Sato shot 47% from there in Serie A. Sato is only about 6'4 tall and does not dribble the ball much, but he has a huge 6'11 wing span and is a fine defensive player. And when you consider that he can shoot as well, Sato is ticking every box.

To be honest, I'd rather have him than Ronnie Brewer.

Sato's contract with Siena has expired, and he is moving on. Despite all their success in recent years, Siena are facing budget cuts and can't afford to retain him. The three current highest bidders for Sato's services are perennial European big spenders Real Madrid and Olympiakos (where he would replace Josh Childress); also in the running for him are the Dallas Mavericks. Sato would get minutes on the Bulls, who are very much looking for a two-way player at the shooting guard spot. A deal starting at the Bulls's last remaining $2 million and running for two or three seasons, plus the promise of decent minutes on a good NBA team, should be enough to get it done.

If it's not, take more out of Dooling's paycheck.

(Note: I would rather trade for Brandon Rush than Dahntay Jones, on account of his better three point shot (that he refuses to use enough) and his $500,000 cheaper price tag. But I also believe the Pacers would be less likely to deal him in such a fashion, hence the inclusion of Dahntay instead. Nevertheless, if the deal could be done for Rush instead, then that's totally bodacious.)

The Bulls are now out of cap space, and limited to minimum salaries. They could use an extra centre; if Brad Miller will take it, then that's a fine result. If not, other candidates include Brian Skinner (who has hands like bags of spanners, but who can rebound and defend the paint), D.J. Mbenga (who defends the same, except with the bonus of a 15 foot jumpshot that he likes to show off at every possible opportunity, and with worse rebounding), Francisco Elson, Kurt Thomas, Josh Boone, Theo Ratliff or Primoz Brezec. Or any other random tall old person that you can think of. Bruno Sundov? Peter Jones? Robert Wadlow? Geena Davis? Ru Paul? Sure, why not.

With the need for more shooting still present, John Lucas III wins (in my scenario) a roster spot out of summer league to play as the third point guard. Derrick Byars could make the roster for wing depth, and Rob Kurz could return for some combo forward depth. To be honest, you can choose your own personal favourites for the 12th-thru-15th place minimum salary signings. The more important thing is that the main rotation is set.

By this time, it would look something like this:

PG: Derrick Rose, Keyon Dooling, John Lucas
SG: Romain Sato, Dahntay Jones, Sasha Vujacic
SF: Luol Deng, Kyle Korver, James Johnson
PF: Carlos Boozer, Taj Gibson, Rob Kurz
C: Joakim Noahwitzki, Brian Skinner, Omer Asik

It is, of course, far from ideal. This new prospective Bulls lineup still only has one half court creator (Rose), and only one and a half ball handlers (him and Dooling). There remain big questions at the shooting guard spot, and no doubt big weaknesses as well. And James Johnson's role is as yet-undefined; if he can beat out Dahntay Jones for those minutes as a defensive specialist, then good luck to him. Yet regardless of those questions, the important thing is that by using the cap space via trade, the Bulls gain assets for the short and long terms. After all, is that not the point of having it?

I prefer this to a trade for a huge salaried ill-fitting player such as Monta Ellis or Andre Iguodala (who I would take in place of Deng, but not alongside him). It's not what we were looking for when the Kurt trade was announced, but that doesn't matter now. After these prospective deals are done, the Bulls will have four picks in the 2011 draft (two firsts, two seconds), financial wiggle room (if not cap space), the Bobcats first rounder (ask Utah how potentially lucrative such things can be) and production from every position (in theory). $11.8 million isn't the best tool to have when you have no one to spend it on, but it should still be enough to get you assets.

And here, in this meandering drone of thought, it does.

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  • This is sort of a REPEATED TOPIC, so I'll give a REPEATED ANSWER.

    The Bulls can look in TWO places for some SG's. That would be MEMPHIS or MINNESOTA.

    MEMPHIS:

    - Ronnie Brewer (free-agency or trade)
    - Sam Young (trade)

    MINNESOTA:

    - Wayne Ellington (trade)
    - Corie Brewer (trade)

    * Of course, there is an outside chance PORTLAND trade Rudy Fernandez to the Bulls.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I honestly dont want either Brewer or them starting on the Bulls. Neither can shoot and the lack of floor spacing would hurt us. Ronnie Brewer for cheap and off the bench is ok though.

    Young isnt as good as you think he is and Ellington is decent. We dont have any trading pies and both wont be huge upgrades from whats on the market. I dont see a point in trading for them.

  • BIGS:

    Brad Miller and Craig Smith or Louis Amundson

    * Unless of course they want to go international with Bourounsis.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    OOPS:

    Bourosis isn't available. He re-signed with Olympiakos.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VREocQM_lME

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Craig smith is not a C and we dont need to draft any PF. Taj is taking all the backup min. Its a waste of money.

  • You're crazier than Sam Smith.

  • In reply to GreenNight:

    John,

    Why is that crazy? It's actually very REALISTIC.

    Memphis is loaded at SG/SF.

    SG - Mayo/Allen/Vasquez
    SF - Gay/Henry/Carroll

    * That frees up Brewer and Young.

    Minnesota just added Webster, so that makes either Ellington or Brewer available.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Looks like they signed Brewer 3 yrs $12 mil.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    THIS JUST IN:

    The Bulls have signed Ronnie Brewer.

    http://twitter.com/KCJHoop/status/18705669703

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Ronnie Brewer is really better than Flip Murray? the two guard on the Bulls needs to be able to shoot well n defend since D Rose is hardly Mr Defense at this point....a lack of a shot or an unwillingness (or inability) to defend say Kobe will haunt this team if they are not wise.....KK should be a 6th man not start at guard..didn't they try to convert Salmons didn't they say Deng might be able to play some 2...what a crock that was.

  • In reply to drob:

    Not to fear! Brewer is here! LOL

    He can defend very well. If he works on his shot this off-season he can really be offensive threat as well(not premiere offensive threat but serviceable). His D is his strong point and his athleticism. He is only 24 so he has room to grow.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Thank God! We got a big two guard in Ronnie Brewer who can defend and take the pressure off DRose. Definitely prefer him over JJ Redick

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    ronnie brewer is now a bull 3yr 12.5mil 3rd year not guaranteed

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Brewer's deal is for 3 years, $12.5 mil.

    Does anyone know what's the deal with Rashad McCants? He was a 1st round pick and averaged close to 10 ppg, but he was out of the league last year. He'd probably play for the league minimum just for a shot to prove himself.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    K.C. JOHNSON:

    Here's the article on Ronnie Brewer.

    http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/07/bulls-agree-to-deal-with-free-agent-guard-brewer.html

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    now we need a specialist behind him only real good 3pt shooters left is jarvis hayes and roger mason......i would bring in rafer alston or jason williams as my back up point guard both are capable 3point shooters

  • In reply to MrSwAgG:

    Mr.SwAgG,

    Acie Law can hit 3's and would be a fine and cheaper back-up for Rose.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    i have no problems with acie law as the back up he did a good job when rose was out the only problem with that is it was only a short stretch i wonder if he can do that for the whole season

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    We're turning into the Utah Jazz.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Crowned,

    No...the Chicago Jazz...haven't your heard?

  • In reply to Crowned:

    RONNIE BREWER:

    In his own words...

    http://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo/status/18706415137

    Big ups to him for choosing Chicago over Boston. He probably will be starting in Chicago.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Looking for a big? I heard Mark Eaton is available.

  • In reply to RockfordBullsFan:

    Do you remember the NBA Jamz Session show with Aamad Rashad where he goes to Eaton's house to make Borscht? Epicness.

  • In reply to RockfordBullsFan:

    Are you guys reading John Hollinger's twitter?

    http://twitter.com/johnhollinger/status/18706695922

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Wow. I am knocked out. Funny. I spent years in SLC watching the Jazz. Eaton was so freakin' big.

  • In reply to RockfordBullsFan:

    I'm sorry for you

  • In reply to RockfordBullsFan:

    DI think the bulls have contacted barnes.... if u check his twitter it says he would announce where he is going today .... but after that happened with reddick he changed it and said a couple more teams came into the mix and he said he'd let everyone know in a couple daysLeave a comment...

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    In reply to RockfordBullsFan:

    I'm calling it now...Ronnie Brewer will be 6th man of the year. I don't think he's the starter, we just need Korver's shooting to spread the floor for Derrick too much. But he's going to bring a lot off the bench. No more moves necessary for this team. The Bulls can pretty much bring on Bouldin, Byars and Samuels from the summer league squad and be just fine this season.

    Nice job management for not sitting on their hands but bringing Brewer in immediately. I think Redick would've had a career year next to DRose, but let's face it - Redick's contract would've almost been Kirk Hinrich redux.

  • In reply to Redwhitenblack:

    Korver is not gonna start over brewer shooter or not the guy cant defend at all he will be better of the bench anyways

  • In reply to Redwhitenblack:

    Red,

    It looks to me like Brewer will be the Bulls starting SG, so 6th-man is a long shot.

  • In reply to Redwhitenblack:

    schaumburgfan,

    I think the Bulls' should stay YOUNG and make a trade, rather than going with Flip.

    I gave the list of candidates earlier on.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    You did? Must of missed it. Oh wait your the guy who has posted wanting Young at least 100 times now. How did I forget?

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    Was that Nick or Sam, I can't remember, I expect he will be after Sean(the crazy hollywood chick) next

  • In reply to RockfordBullsFan:

    Brewer is the replacement for Hinrich and Seraphin basically and is he a taller version of Hinrich? Pesky Defense, Decent Ball Handling skills and expert on shooting bricks?
    Is Flip Murray the best choice now in terms of instant offense at the 2-guard position? We need somebody like that rather than a stiff shooter like Kyle Korver...

  • In reply to RockfordBullsFan:

    THE MAIN QUESTION:

    Is Derrick Rose a BATMAN or a ROBIN?

    That is still unanswered. If he isn't, then the Bulls better find away to add MELO come FEB.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Derrick Rose is clearly a BATMAN happy. He's the #1 player on our team...a FRANCHISE PLAYER. He will reach superstar status this year.

  • In reply to mdot1986:

    #1Bullsfan,

    There is no question that Derrick Rose is the BATMAN of this current Bulls' team. However, I still feel that this team would be better if Rose was a ROBIN, say next to MELO.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    The likelihood of us land Melo is so small(like a 1.7% chance!)and to get it done would require trading half of the team. What happens to our solid bench.

  • In reply to MrSwAgG:

    I don't want Alston and his career 38% FG anywhere near this team.

  • In reply to MrSwAgG:

    KC Johnson makes a good point about the Brewer signing that may have been over looked

    http://twitter.com/KCJHoop/status/18710359519

  • In reply to italia8811:

    excellent point! I cant wait for the year to start even more!

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    $8 MILLION:

    They still need a back-up PG (Acie Law?) and a veteran Center (Brad Miller?).

    I'm guessing Brad Miller signs next. Could be today.

  • In reply to GreenNight:

    MEMPHIS PROJECTIONS:

    PG - Conley/Vasquez
    SG - Mayo/Henry
    SF - Gay/Carroll
    PF - Randolph/Arthur
    C - Gasol/Thabeet

    Where does that leave Ronnie Brewer and Sam Young? AVAILABLE!!!

    That's at least my opinion.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    * And I didn't even put Tony Allen in there.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    There are a couple of "Brewers"...Rodney, Corey??? I am getting worried that our season is dependent on a bunch of guys who are named for making beer and have an average/below average NBA game....

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    schaum,

    There aren't too many options out there. Sorry to disappoint you.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    WASHINGTON:

    I guess we could include the Wizards as a team, who could give up a SG.

    - Nick Young (trade)
    - Kirk Hinrich (if he decides on a buy-out)

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Everyone can't be stars. Some people fill a role. Ronnie Brewer fills the role of perimiter Defender and he's young and athletic. Corey Brewer is Happy's newest man crush...

  • In reply to mdot1986:

    Not to mention Happy's first manlove with anyone names "Young"...that continues to this day..uncanny...

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    old Fart Big Man?

    How did you know my nickname on the court Doug?

    Seriously, I wonder how judicious it was of the Bulls to take themselves off the free agent market for 1 week letting the Orlando Magic dawdle on the JJ Redick decision for a week?

    The Chicago Bulls stuck it to Orlando with their JJ Redick offer and the Orlando Magic returned the favor by burning a week of free agency activity for the Bulls.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Oops.

    Reading is a skill I guess.

    Mark wrote this article, not Doug.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    I've long been a fan or Romain Sato's game.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRaJ8b7kuV4&feature=related

    What is the deal with Matt Barnes? Why are we not trying harder to get him. He fills a huge need for the Bulls at SG.

  • In reply to TheRedPlanet:

    Ronnie Brewer is a better signing than Barnes: younger(room to grow), more athletic, just as good perimeter defender. Besides Matty is going to SouthBeach...not that I mind.

  • In reply to mdot1986:

    Barnes can shoot 3 pointers because he has two functioning arms.

  • In reply to TheRedPlanet:

    Than why only 32% from 3 last year. Down from a whopping 34% the year before.

  • In reply to mdot1986:

    And, why not bring back Jerry Sloan as a back up 2-Guard. He can also help coach. This is getting weird, but at least the new guys have a chemistry.

  • In reply to TheRedPlanet:

    Yes but first the Bulls need to hire you in the front office.

    Never understood why more teams don't just hire two dudes on the cheap (say, $30,000/yr), supply them with laptops, full access to salary information, cold beers, and the occasional bong-rip. The team's bright future would practically plan itself. Where do you think Presti is getting all his ideas?

  • In reply to bzoooty:

    Believe me. That role exists.

  • In reply to bzoooty:

    CJ Watson! Another defender but with ballhandling and shooting skills. Gasp! That sounds like... Kirk Hinrich!

  • In reply to bzoooty:

    Dude,(that would be you Mark), it must be a Brit thing but you just wrote the longest post in the history of the world(2 million words?, or it just felt like it) about the possibilities of acquiring 5 players that nobody in the NBA give a crap about.

    Even if the Bulls signed any of them, they would almost certainly be gone in a year or 2.

    Seriously, I would almost rather laugh at Mr Happy's crap than spend this much time debating those 5 guys.

    I would take Matt Barnes over any of the guys mentioned.

    The only guy that I might be interested in is the guy that I have never heard of, the Ceasar Salad guy, and only because I don't already know how useless he is.

    If we were even going to consider any of those guys we should have just given Miami sqaut to acquire Beasely, which may in the end to turn out to be the biggest steal of this free agent season. I certainly would have given them James Johnson for Beasely, for whom I wanted to trade Gordon or Deng to Miami for the #2 pick used to draft him 2 years ago.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Does the word count offend you?

  • In reply to MarkDeeks:

    Only if you leave out the "O" and even then it depends on the circumstances. Otherwise, I have no idea what you are alluding to.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    I fail to see why you had to point out that that was quite a long post. I know, sir. I'm the one that wrote it.

  • In reply to MarkDeeks:

    It was ridiculously long given the gravity of the subject matter(players who will wave towels from the bench), that would be why.

    Was it not one of your countrymen, Shakespeare, I believe, who said, "Brevity is the soul of wit"(intelligence).

  • In reply to BigWay:

    I nodded off 3 times trying to get through the post thinking there must be something in here worth the time put in to type it.

  • In reply to Chachi:

    I'm sorry I let you all down?

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Apparently you haven't seen much of ShamSports.com. Incredibly long posts about players no one cares about is his specialty. Thanks to Mark for doing the dirty work. While the rest of us are debating whether we want LeBron or Wade, Mark knows all the details about realistic options and how much they cost. He has one of the best NBA salary websites out there, when you feel like playing armchair GM. The Bulls would do well to pay him $40,000/yr with unlimited beer and spotted dick as a consultant for reliable info on overseas players and outside-the-box ideas.
    PS - I'm sold on the Italian dude. Any update on Childress?

  • In reply to Davidmon5:

    Thanks, but I don't drink.

    Childress has been signed and traded to Phoenix already.

    It was announced a few hours ago that Sato had signed with Panathinaikos. It was then announced a couple of hours after that that he hadn't signed with Panathinaikos after all.

  • In reply to MarkDeeks:

    Do you take requests? Once the roster is set, I'd love to see a Sham-style breakdown of our new team's collective criminal history (being sure to point out how much cleaner we are than average, of course) . Off the top of my head I can only remember Noah's partying after his first year. Before he suddenly became a hard-working team leader. I seem to remember something about Johnson getting in trouble in Idaho in the offseason. The SAT thing if you stretch it. As far as NBA teams go, that's a pretty clean rap sheet.

  • In reply to Davidmon5:

    Only arrest I know of for anyone on the team was Noah's. Also, Rose got caught for speeding just before his rookie year and got six months of court supervision.

  • In reply to MarkDeeks:

    Thanks i don't drink......
    but who told you I love a nice spotted dick especially if it's out of the Euro league LOL

  • In reply to Davidmon5:

    The Italian dude is African, I believe.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    I think Sato is a great idea. My only wonder is how much would he costs. European teams offer a whole lot more than US teams. Look at Childress. He is a great shooter and finisher. I wonder what his defense looks like however since he is only 6'4.

    But he is a great shooter and runs the floor and can rebound decently. If he can play D then give him 4 mill a year and see if that works.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    MAYO and CONLEY:

    I know O.J. Mayo has been playing some PG during Summer League, so maybe Memphis puts Mike Conley on the trade market. Perhaps a bigger trade involving Brewer, Conley and Young can get done between the Grizzlies and the Bulls.

  • Mitchell,

    I definitely can see Bouldin, Lucas, Almond (another former Jazz player) and Byars getting invited to the pre-season training camp.

    My concern is that Korver is more of a back-up SF, which means Johnson needs to go.

  • Mitchell,

    I'm all for the DUMP JOHNSON plan.

  • italia,

    Brewer is the younger and taller version of Hinrich.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    If that is what he turns out to be then we got a steal, and saved $5million in cap space

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    way more ATHELTIC.......... for got that part as well.

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