Three team race for LeBron, maybe a two team race, maybe just the Bulls...

Read Dwyane Wade's thoughts here, and it's apparent the two batmen aren't going to play together and instead both look for a robin.   Wade obviously wants Bosh in Miami as his first choice. (thanks to Bigway for pointing this one out to me):

"Me and Chris have been friends since we came into the NBA. We signed with the same agent. So we can't eat together? It's all good. We understand what's going to come about from anything that goes on. But, no worries, it's just friends eating dinner."

So does Wade believe he will end up in Miami?

"I hope so," Wade said.

As for Cleveland's LeBron James, Wade said, "I have no idea. I don't know about anyone else."

He said James is "his own man. He's going to decide for himself. Everyone has their thoughts of what's going to happen. No one knows. I don't even think LeBron knows."

First, congratulations on Dwyane Wade getting around the NBA tampering rules because he's friends with Chris Bosh.   To answer your question Dwyane, yes, the fact that you're both FAs probably does mean you can't go out to dinner and talk about free agency.  

Now, as a matter of course, we all know that tampering happens all the time.  It's just amusing to see a player so brazenly admit it.  It's similar to how the top college recruits are paid huge money under the table every year.   We know it's happening, but we simply decide to punish one school every couple years, shake our fists, and pretend nothing else is going on.

Let's just hope Tom Thibodeau and LeBron hang out at some events sponsored by their sports agency.  I mean they're not going to talk about LeBron coming to the Bulls or anything just have a friendly dinner like Wade and Bosh.

Anyway, Wade seems to completely dismiss Miami as a location for James.   So throw them out of the mix and you're down to three viable teams.   New York, Cleveland, and Chicago.  

However, if Wade has persuaded Bosh to join him in Miami, then it's really down to a two team race between Chicago and Cleveland.   Without Bosh going to New York, they don't have the roster to remotely qualify for LeBron's desire to win, and not just because of LeBron James.   New York NEEDS both Bosh and James to have a chance at either one in my opinion.

In the two team race, look at all of LeBron's actions so far, and it appears that he's distancing himself from Cleveland.

We don't know that Bosh is joining Wade in Miami yet, but if he does, I think it really ramps up the Bulls chance of landing LeBron simply due to the fact that it creates another Eastern Conference powerhouse team, and if LeBron really wants to win titles, he needs to align himself with the most talent.

New York's ability to gather talent is severely hampered, and the Bulls will have more than Cleveland going forward.   

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  • I'm a first-time poster on this site and I'm looking forward to being a regular part of it.

    Allow me please to add my two-cents about what has indicated to me that Lebron is leavin' Cleveland (aside from the fact that "leavin' Cleveland" rhymes and sounds right): The 1st "cent" is, if Lebron James was REALLY about loyalty to Cleveland he would've signed a longer term contract 3 years ago when his rookie contract expired. Although they offered him a 6 or 7 year contract he elected not to sign it stating that he wanted to see where the franchise was going, and keep his options open.

    My second "cent" is from what I heard Lebron say, repeatedly, during the Larry King interview. Four or five times in answering a question he said, "wherever I GO...". Saying "go" so many times w/o adding "if I go" during or after the comment "wherever I GO" seems to indicate that his mind is already made up about GOING, or "leavin' Cleveland" (man that sounds good!).

    Sure he said that he was "leanin' towards staying", but he HAS to say that now, he still lives there and the fans would lose their mind and do who knows what. I think Lebron really is "leanin", but I think he's "leanin'" towards "leavin'". Yup, leavin' Cleveland, and coming to Chicago to win championshipe!

  • In reply to ChicaliK:

    The contract extension had to do with the upcoming new cba, more than anything else. That's the reason why Bosh and Wade also signed only 3-year deals.

  • In reply to ChicaliK:

    Well, if the Heat are off the board, then I'm getting pretty happy about this. It's Chicago or Cleveland and we seem in the driver's seat.

  • In reply to ChicaliK:

    What about the Clippers? Don't they pose a threat as well?

  • In reply to mdot1986:

    I really doubt it.

  • In reply to mdot1986:

    If Bosh signs w/Miami and Lebron signs w/Chicago...can u say rivalry?? This will be great for the NBA. Chicago would knock them out of the playoffs every year! Then Bosh would be kicking himself...

  • In reply to mdot1986:

    all the way to the bank on South Beach, which seems to be that he really cares about anyway, which is why I am not all that thrilled about signing him.

  • In reply to mdot1986:

    Not to be negative but couldn't just about any team do a sign and trade with Cleveland for LeBron/etc? What about a team like Portland going after him? I hope it is the Bulls but it seems like only teams with current cap space are being discussed and if we can talk about getting two top FA's here (Bron, Bosh or Wade) by using a sign and trade for one of them I can't understand why any other team couldn't pull off a sign and trade for them.

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    Sure any team could "possibly sign and trade for Lebron" But its the teams that pose the threat of saying, we can sign him here and you get nothing, that have any legitimate pull in forcing a sign and trade. However, the Cavs seem to be against a S&T regardless.

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    plus, the teams without the cap space would have to match contracts. in the end, CLE will never get back equal talent in such a scenario AND they wouldn't have cap space.

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    Brian Windhorst is at it again! Apparently Lebron will not talk to Izzo

    http://www.cleveland.com/ohio-sports-blog/index.ssf/2010/06/lebron_james_respects_coach_to.html

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    Bulls fans are in dream land with LeBron coming here! I guarantee that we will be in the second tier again next year as LeBron resigns with Cleveland and Gilbert buys a new team! That is the difference between the Cavs and the Bulls ownership. The first sign will be if Izzo takes the job. Who would you rather play for, Izzo or our coach who Boston wouldn't even consider for its possible vacancy. WAKE UP CHICAGO! You will start seeing the signs and the fans in Cleveland will be laughing at us!

  • In reply to elr5409:

    1.I'm sorry but the difference between Cavs and Bulls ownership is 6 NBA Titles and 1 World Series Championship.
    2.You can't just "buy" a new team when you have neither cap space, nor envious trade pieces.
    3.The sign that Lebron stays isn't Izzo taking the job, its if the Cavs can pull off a miracle trade.
    4.The Celtics couldn't consider Thibs for their coaching "vacancy" when their number one goal is to keep Doc Rivers.
    5.Even if Cleveland keeps James, they've got about 10 years of championships to even begin chuckling at Chicagoans.

    Have a nice day.

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    I'm sorry guru but that is history and what scares me isn't the players but OWNERSHIP! that is what will sell Lebron and who is more aggresive than Gilbert? His unenvious players still won over 60 games in the past 2 years and were only beaten by a Celtic buzzsaw that they didn't expect (like the rest of us). Noah really pissed off LBJ by his comments about his dancing with his team

  • In reply to elr5409:

    I don't think Lebron was so PO'd by Noah that he wouldn't come to Chicago. If anything, I think Lebron respects Noah for standing up to him when noone else had. You want a guy like of Noah on your team who isn't afraid to stand up, speak up and defend your honor, team and home court.

    Secondly, Lebron NOT signing a longer contract 3 yrs ago had nothing to do with the CBA (collective bargaining agreement) but again, everything to do with what Lebron stated at the time, he wanted to keep his options open. Besides the CBA isn't due to be re-negoiated until next year.

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    I'm sorry guru but that is history and what scares me isn't the players but OWNERSHIP! that is what will sell Lebron and who is more aggresive than Gilbert? His unenvious players still won over 60 games in the past 2 years and were only beaten by a Celtic buzzsaw that they didn't expect (like the rest of us). Noah really pissed off LBJ by his comments about his dancing with his team

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    I'm sorry guru but that is history and what scares me isn't the players but OWNERSHIP! that is what will sell Lebron and who is more aggresive than Gilbert? His unenvious players still won over 60 games in the past 2 years and were only beaten by a Celtic buzzsaw that they didn't expect (like the rest of us). Noah really pissed off LBJ by his comments about his dancing with his team

  • In reply to elr5409:

    Hahaa! Why would Lebron play for an unproven Izzo? Idk it seems weird. The team other "stars" (Shaq, Jamison) are old. How does that situation get any better in the next two seasons? Who wants to trade for Jamison? Who wants to trade for Mo Williams (ultimate choke artist)?? The writing is on the wall...are you a Cleveland fan posing as a Chicago fan elr5409? Ha!

  • In reply to elr5409:

    While they are still in "building mode" Chicago has pieces to win now...and to win for the next 5-6 seasons.

  • In reply to elr5409:

    He shows himself in posing as a Chicagoan when he says. "WAKE UP CHICAGO! You will start seeing the signs and the fans in Cleveland will be laughing at us!" Mixed up your you's and us's big guy. I'm sure you enjoy role playing as a fan that has had championships to celebrate in the past week, let alone the last 40+ years.

  • In reply to elr5409:

    Just a quick funny note. Anyone notice how, when all the Lebron best fit team debates were going on ESPN, Avery Johnson postulated that Rose wouldn't fit with Lebron and that the Nets were the best fit.. Funny where he ended up signing to coach. What a joke.

  • In reply to jgingeri:

    Yeah he's a scumbag. I'm glad we didn't even consider him as a coach.

  • In reply to Dileg:

    Thank god

  • In reply to elr5409:

    LeBron and the Blackhawks

    Last time I checked, there's a new champion in town. And they are one of the top 3 youngest teams in the NHL. Hopefully, there will be more excitement from the Blackhawks in years to come.

    Does LeBron want to compete with that?

    I don't know LeBron, but I do know he's very fond of "branding and promoting" himself. Rightfully so.

    Coming to Chicago means coming to a town that already has a winter champion. Will that Chicago expectation affect LeBron? Will LeBron consider it fun joining a city of winter champions or will that reduce the spotlight on him?

    Just wondering.

  • In reply to rkraneis:

    As much as I love the Blackhawks, maybe even more so than the Bulls. The fact is that if Lebron comes to Chicago the Bulls will own the city once again. Note that while the Hawks sold out the UC every game this year, so did the Bulls with their current roster. Dare I say hockey is no where near Lebron's train of thought at the moment. If anything the 2 million strong showing at the Cup parade attests to how vast and rabid this city's fans are. Does Cleveland even have 2 million residents?

  • In reply to rkraneis:

    Uhh..Blackhawks would become second nature if LeBron came here. Basketball is already a more popular sport than hockey (And will be in this town if the Bulls get LeBron)..Bulls sell out every game already.

    Besides, I think there's room for two good teams in this city. At best it transfers the Blackhawk bandwagon fans to the Bulls..leaving the Blackhawks with their true fans, and rightfully should be so. The city will still celebrate either team winning titles.

    But expect more people to show for LeBron first title (Assuming he signs here and wins one here), than the Blackhawks rally.

  • In reply to Scoot26:

    What do we mean room for "two good teams in this city"? There's room for all of them. It's not as if one, two or 3 teams winning a championship means we must lessen our support of another team. I have room in my heart to support the Blackhawks, Bulls, White Sox and Bears if they were to ALL win in the same year. What is this idea of no room for more than one championship team in Chicago??

  • In reply to Scoot26:

    CHICAGO - (BUSINESS WIRE) - Car-X Auto Service is making an offer to LeBron James if he makes the switch to the Chicago Bulls from the Cleveland Cavaliers. In what has been dubbed the "King James Version" of oil changes, Car-X is offering FREE oil changes for life on LeBron's Ferrari F430 Spider on the condition that he signs with the Chicago Bulls.

  • In reply to vinmotors:

    Don't be so quick to judge. Lebron's Ferrari will end up in a Car-X, just wait and see. Follow the movement on

    if i had a ferrari why in the hell would I let CAR-X tech's touch my 250k car? ummmmmmmmm no thanks. But keep the LBJ chicago giveaways coming.

  • In reply to Scoot26:

    If Bosh and LeBron come to Chicago to play with Noah and Rose. You can lock up the next 7-10 Championships right now.

    Whats up BigWay!!!!

    *First Time Poster Here, Long Time Bulls Blogger!

  • In reply to Scoot26:

    If the Bulls want LBJ (or DWADE) they better land Chris Bosh first.

    I keep saying it, but it's true.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    You need to go back to college, assuming that you ever went, and take a basic logic course.

    Just because you keep saying it, does not make anything true.

  • In reply to Scoot26:

    ANY BETS?

    If Bosh gets traded to the Bulls and LBJ signs here, any bets that DWADE will be looking for some kind of exception to join the Bulls?

    He should SHUT UP and keep the Chicago door open!!!

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    and what will you be doing/saying when Bosh ends up in Miami with Wade and Lebron ends up wherever Lebron wants to end up.

  • In reply to rkraneis:

    i'd say Derrick Rose is probably the cities most popular athlete, so that alone probably put the Bulls ahead of the 'Hawks. and Lebron would def assume that role if he went to the Bulls. in Miami, the fans would never accept him over D-Wade. Wade's been there his whole career, has won a title there. Lebron would be a hired gun.

    if Lebron were to come to Chicago, can you imagine the UC in April-June with the Blackhawks and Bulls contending every year? and i'm not even a 'Hawks fan. i'm glad my Panthers got their former GM. maybe now they'll stop sucking after a decade.

  • In reply to rkraneis:

    The rest of the world doesn't even know there's a Chicago Blackhawks. But they do know there's a Bulls team in Chicago.

  • In reply to rkraneis:

    If LeBron stays in Cleveland, I do hope Izzo is their coach. So they can get creamed. In a related note, I hope Scott takes the Clippers job or as Phil's replacement (if he leaves). Scott can improve a team with Lebron.

  • In reply to elr5409:

    It's not like Bulls fans just concocted this out of thin air. Going into free agency, it was only a few truly pie-in-the-sky fans who really thought the Bulls would sign LeBron. But at this point, the national and local media have spelled it out pretty clearly: the Bulls are leading the pack. The race isn't over yet, but we're in the lead.

    Cleveland fans won't be laughing. They'll either be thanking their lucky stars or on suicide watch.

  • In reply to ChicaliK:

    "Just friends having dinner? Gimme a break! I know I wasn't the only one that noticed Wade's brazen pre-recruiting recruiting. This is so shady. Sure we all know that teams find ways to get around the "rules", but at least pretend you're trying to hide it. And where is all the reporting hammering him on this and calling the NBA to task to investigate? Riley & Co have to wait til July 1st to start their pitch but Wade, being a player, supposedly isn't held to the same constraints so he can lay the ground work for Riley & Co to come in and close the deal. That way Riley doesn't have to waste his time visiting multiple top FAs and risk alienating someone and walking away empty-handed. Let Wade work it out, find "the One" and come at him as if he were the chosen one all along. Genius.

  • In reply to jamatokwu:

    I agree. They fined Mark Cuban 100 Grand for answering an obvious question. But Riley can do the same thing or more but through the back door. This is a real double standard by David Stern. Wade first screwed the Bulls and now he is openly recruiting...
    I wish they take away a pick or two from Miami to let them know this is not acceptable...

  • In reply to jamatokwu:

    Yeah, Wade and Riley are sketchy, but remember, Rose and Lebron are friends and have been talking this off season too.

    All parties involved will do what they can to influence Free Agents before July 1. Wade has just been a bit more brazen.

  • In reply to mrasmussen11:

    That's totally different! ;)

  • In reply to jamatokwu:

    Haha "Does Cleveland even have 2 million residents?" Yea Bron would be treated like a king here and he would love every minute. If anything the fact that Chicago would have TWO great sports teams would seem to further Lebron's branding for the simple fact that Chicago would continue to be talked about in the sports world.

  • In reply to jamatokwu:

    elr5409 is apparently clicker happy. You say your best argument is ownership. What has your ownership done? Enlighten me. Shaq? Jameison? Mo Williams? Not long ago your squad had a young Lebron James as well as more cap space than any team in the league. Today? You stand with a merely mediocre line up and the biggest super star to grace your streets since Jim Brown about to tread west or east for good.

  • In reply to jamatokwu:

    I agree with your general premise, Doug. I think Wade's remarks do indicate that he and Lebron aren't looking to team up. I also think if one of the other FAs goes to team up with Wade, it increases the chnaces that Lebron comes to Chicago.

  • In reply to jamatokwu:

    If anything, the Blackhawks significantly helped our cause. Chances are, Lebron saw the way the city got behind the hawks, celebs turned out at the UC and even MJ was in the house. Also, the parade and everything was a huge success, Chicago celebrated with class and everyone for the most part was kept safe.

    This is a world class city. That was showcased..theres only one real option for Lebron.

    Get ready. He's coming.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Did you guys catch the scene at Wrigley last night, that was awesome, even if the Sox(Ozzie)had to be in it

  • In reply to jamatokwu:

    All this jibber jabber about Lebron joining the Bulls is a pipe dream. LBJ is no fool and he stands to make tens of millions more by staying in Cleveland. He'll end up owning the Cavs if he wants.

  • In reply to klangley:

    You mean just like Jordan ended up owning the Bulls, right.

    Because, old, rich white men are always giving away their teams to their black former players, it happens all the time.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    LeBron stands to make more salary dollars from Cleveland. However, the Chicago market is the third-largest in the country and LeBron would make far more from endorsements if he played in Chicago. I'm pretty sure I heard rumors he gets a mega bonus from Nike if he plays in Chicago, LA, or NY. Where is NikeTown....Chicago. Where did MJ, the face of Nike play...Chicago. Uh ohhhhhh

  • In reply to ChicagoSpartan:

    Right on, LeBron can make more NBA salary in Cleveland, but he can make much more money in Chicago from marketing alone. Think of how many local commercials and other advertising he'll be a part of that he would never get in Cleveland. LeBron stands to gain alot of money going to Chicago (or New York).

  • In reply to ChicagoSpartan:

    The Bulls should make their pitch to Bosh and move on cause it's starting to look like Bosh is leaning towards signing with Miami. If he signs with them it's not a total disaster. The Bulls can still go after Boozer or Lee and either one would still help to better the Bulls front line and hopefully the Bulls can hang on to Gibson as well. And like I said before that Joe Johnson would not be a bad signing if they can get him to sign for less than the max. So if Bosh does sign with Miami, Lebron should really look to sign with the Bulls cause Miami is trying to put together a very impressive team and hopefully Lebron don't wont to feel left out cause these other teams in the east will definitely be improving around his team or former team. It should be common sense with Lebron to join the Bulls if all of this takes place but who knows what he is thinking.

  • In reply to klangley:

    The Chicago Bulls are one of the biggest world-wide brands in all of sports.

  • In reply to jamatokwu:

    This is exactly what I would do if I were one of these players, and I would carry the Bill of Rights with me to every dinner meeting.

  • In reply to jamatokwu:

    Nike won't give Lebron any more money for playing in Chicago...I believe that would almost be illegal. However, the fact Chicago Bulls are more notably known worldwide helps Lebron's brand in the China markets. That's how Lebron will make more money to come here. Think about it # change AND team change means revenue from new merchandise sold worlwide. Also, him coming to Chicago probably garners him new bandwagon fans worldwide...it's a no-brainer!

  • Yes Bron made those comments its certain that he might leave the Cavs so we know the heat are done in that race also you pointed out the facts of what the knicks have and dont have to get Bron. It seems logical that he would choose chicago whith what we have as players but you never know

  • And does Lebron really want to play with a loudmouth attitude problem like Baron Davis, who along with Kaman, and for the time being Griffin are walking injuries waiting to happen.

    And never mind the Donald Sterling affect.

  • I pointed out this article last night in your previous posting.

    While not particularly specific, it gave me more reason to believe that Lebron is indeed Chicago bound for the same reasons that you have delineated.

    I have always believed that Bosh would end up in Miami, because it is Miami first and foremost and Wade is already there. IF Bosh to Miami "forces" Lebron to the Bulls then I hope Bosh signs there day one.

    We can make other moves to find a quality power forward, there are no moves that can be made to find another Lebron.

    The only hiccup in the Bosh to Miami move, is Bosh's certain desire to get the max max 6 years and the extra $30 million. does Miami have anything that Toronto would accept in return, are Beasely and Haslem enough, I'd say that they have to be, look at what the Lakers got for Shaq(squat), who is /was 10 times the player that Bosh will ever be

    An added benefit of this combination of occurances would be that it debunks Mr Happy's bogus theory that Bosh determines where Lebron lands.

    As far as Wade and Bosh not being allowed to have dinner or socialize, I call BS, it would be a basic violation of everything that is American, and at a minimum most of the consitution.

  • IF the Bulls sign Lebron, Deng will actually becomes useless, rather than his current state of virtual uselessness. The Bulls will have to trade him one way or another.

    Since you don't like any of my Minny proposals, what about Deng for Monta Ellis. I know that you are not an Ellis fan, but the contracts work(a little bit in the Bulls favor) and Ellis would actually get on the court(start) while Deng would just ride the bench.

    The Warrior's appear to have decided that they have to move Ellis. Don't know what they could get from the rest of the league, but apparently the league is not in love with his contract either.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if LeBron came to Chicago and the Bulls couldn't move Deng. I could see LeBron playing in the back court with Rose while Deng stayed at the 3. That may not be the ideal fit on paper because none of them are long-range shooting specialists that could spread the floor, but is there a starting 1-2-3 combo in the league that would be able to match up with them?

    The Bulls won 72 games with Ron Harper, MJ, and Pip starting on the perimeter, none of whom were long-range specialists. Now, I'm not saying Rose, LeBron, and Deng would be as good. But I am saying that, while it helps, you don't absolutely HAVE to have a dead-eye long range threat in the starting lineup to be successful. But they would still need at least 1 or 2 guys coming off the bench that could hit from long range consistently.

  • 2 winning seasons in 30 years. talk about a tradition of LOSING!!!

  • Not just big with Deng and Lebron, but you have the option to go big or small.

  • Would you bet a urine cocktail on that?

  • All this LeBron specualtion has to end.

    "Sources" to said "journalists": "Wait a minute, you're telling me LeBron now uses Cottonelle and not Charmin(to wipe his ass)! Clearly the implications are since Cottonelle is made in N.Y. and Charmin is made in Ohio he's on his way out!"

    Oh No, Dwyane Wade took Chris Bosh to lunch. Oh my heavens!!

    Who gives a shit? Does Bosh have a brain? Is he being brainwashed?If D-Rose was more of a vet and outspoken would we have a problem if he did the same thing?

    The only thing is Wade should just do it privately and without fanfare as someone else suggested. So in that sense maybe he is being a jag.

    And as far as Lebron goes who really knows what his comments on Izzo mean. Maybe he feels obligated to act like he cares about what Cleveland does/that he hasn't already mentally ditched them yet. That's probably the case. The owner has said LeBron has had no input on the Izzo pursuit so either he's a fat liar(fine if so) or he's sort of telling the truth because LeBron may have given his approval, but in a detatched way that is more out of respect/P.R. sake, and not someone who's staying or really invested in what the Cavs are doing going forward "100%".

  • One other thing. I thought LeBron, by mentioning Wade and Bosh again and again, was saying he likely wanted to play with one or the other. But I agree that's not a given.

    I just wonder how smart Lebron really is? You've got a 29 year old injury hampered for years D-Wade. Or you've got a young IMO superstar in waiting in Derrick Rose. With Thibodeau bringing in a two time Phil Jackson thwarting/Championship defense to address Derrick's biggest flaw, his defense, another star with he and Noah, Taj etc. make for a terrfic young defensive machine.

    Honestly old Man Riley and injury plagued Wade with a lousy core over the young turks and the on fire championship commodity in Thibodeau? We definitely have a real shot at Lebron, and if this is handled right he probably ends up in a Bulls uniform.

    If this is handled right..?!

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    Wade isn't 29, he's 28. He has only suffered one significant injury, which hampered the end of one season 07 and the beginning of the next 08. The injury hasn't been an issue since. Wade has already proven he can win a championship. Rose has done little in the way of significance other than lead a .500 team for two seasons, which does not a superstar make. The Heat meanwhile have finished five to seven games better than the BULLS star-studded roster with a "lousy core" as you so humbly suggest. And if Noah is the other "star", thanks but I will be patient with Beasley. Somehow, I think a 20 year old power forward that manages 16/5 in his second season, playing only 29 minutes will evolve just fine. If Wade and Beasley are supposed to take a backseat to Rose and Noah, then I don't have to wonder about how smart you really are. I suppose you could be intelligent, yet delusional.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    Correction, Beasley's stats for this season were 14.8/6.5, which is just fine for a second year power forward playing in the shadow of Wade. All this hype about the BULLS talent is baffling. Where has it been the past two years?

  • 20+ points per game to start with, and a perfect compliment to HInrich and Rose, way better than Gordon ever was.

    Even with Rose and Lebron we will be clamoring for a third scorer, Deng will never play, so he won't be it, Ellis would start and is a proven commodity in the league, likely to get better this year as he fully recovers from his injury of 2 years ago.

    We already have ample proof that Deng cannot play 2 guard, he is already athletically deficient at 3, so that leaves Lebron playing 2. While that might work on offense, I am not sure that I want Lebron chasing guys like Ray Allen around in cirlces wasting all his energy.

    both Lebron and Deng are closer to being 4's than they are 2's, so trying to play them together would definately diminish Lebrons effectiveness and value.

    So yea, that makes a ton of sense, get the greatest free agent ever(maybe) and then make him change his position and game so that Luol Dung can continue to stand around and watch others play, shear genious.

    Last time I checked Ellis scores more ppg than your hero(Ben Gordon)as well as Deng himself, he handles the ball better and he actually attempts to guard people once in a while, as opposed to never.

    I thought that we needed more scoring even if we get Lebron. Oh wait we only need more scoring only if it comes from 3 point shooting.

    Bottom line Deng has no place to play if we get Lebron, and Ellis is one of the few contracts that someone might trade for Dengs, and I think that Ellis is a better player than Deng straight up, and he plays a position that we have a need at, unless of course you want to revisit Joe Johnson.

    given that you think Deng is untradable, you should jump at this deal, if GS would do it.

  • easy

    David Lee. Any missed shot goes to the Bulls with James, Lee and Noah up front. Add in Gibson and Asik this year or next, and that's a very, very good 5-man rotation. One hopes they can get an average starting SG, a younger PG/SG back up and a SG/SF backup... and that's that. Championships R us.

  • In reply to tyger:

    Also, if Lee is intent on leaving the Knicks and they've just lost out on James, Wade and Bosh, I don't think Deng is the worst acquisition for them. It's down to a 4-year contract, which isn't short, but is more reasonable.

    (God, and Hinrich will still be in Chicago)

  • It seems to me that whenever Forbes or somebody like that does a story of the richest athletes, very few of them play in New York, or LA for that matter.

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