Three great players and Joe Johnson to meet to discuss future

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Stole the title shamelessly from Kyrv.. Per ESPN, the big three and Joe Johnson will meet to discuss the future.

Wade told the Chicago Tribune that he's not sure when the three
players will talk, but they've been discussing their futures informally
for a while now.

"[Free agency] has been three years coming," the Miami Heat
superstar told the Tribune. "We've discussed it prematurely, at
different times. [But] you don't know what guys are thinking and where
they're going. I think we'll all sit down, and before one of us makes a
decision, all of us will have spoken to each other and [listened to the]
thinking.

"A lot of decisions [will be based on] what other
players are willing to do and what other guys want to do. So it's not
just a 'me' situation here. We all have to look and see what each other
is thinking."

A source told ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard
that the Toronto
Raptors
' Chris
Bosh
also will join Wade, James and Johnson when they get together
to discuss free agency.

No date or place has been set for the
gathering, but the source said, "Bosh will definitely be there."

Well this means a few things in my opinion:

First, Wade is going to try like hell to recruit everyone to Miami.   Consider his comments on Chicago to e a subtle way of hurting his primary competition.

Second, it's clear not everyone can play together, so the odds here are that they try to land in such a way that no one gets stuck in a really bad spot.

Other interesting notes is that so far, Amare/Boozer aren't part of the meeting.  Now who knows how much really goes down here, but if Amare/Boozer really aren't influencing the plans of the other guys, then I think that's an interesting point in and of itself.

Do these guys come up with an explicit plan of where they're going, or do they just want to get a feel for what the others are doing before making their decisions on their own, really could go either way.

It does back up the idea that the superpowers are going to converge in free agency which has to give Knicks fans some hope.  If the Knicks pull this off, you have to give Donnie Walsh all the credit in the world for managing to get two max deals under the cap.   If not, he just destroyed the franchise.   Either way, he's got some balls.

CHICAGO TRIBUNE VIDEO

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  • Personally, I think Wade said what he said for one of two reasons. He is close to Jordan now and maybe Jordan bad mouthed us and is speaking through wade. Or, Wade knows that Lebron and/or Bosh/Johnson want to come to the Bulls and he doesnt want to get stuck in Miami alone and as a loser.

    I think its the later but I personally lost alot of respect from Wade today. I used to think he was a standup guy but bad mouthing the team is so dumb and immature.

    For the Bulls, I think this could be great or terrible. I dont think we get one person this offseason. I think we get two of them or none of them. I feel that we should be ahead since we are the best team with cap space, and NY sucks so much. I think they want to team up two and two so they can come out this offseason the best as possible.

    I feel Lebron has the most say of them all since I think his decision to leave or not weighs so heavily on everyone else. If he stays that changes he dynamics of free agency. If he leaves he changes the dynamics as well. What he does will shift the power of the NBA vastly.

  • There is no evidence that Jordan is bad-mouthing the Bulls.

    the man he hated - Jelly Belly Krause - left long ago. He is friendly with Chairman Jerry and was a frequent visitor at the UC in his own private box until he bought the Bobcats

  • I gotta say I definitely lost a lot of respect for D Wade. He is clearly doing this to attract LeBron and Bosh to Miami and cancel any chances of them going to the Bulls. IMO, I really hope the agents for LeBron and Bosh are smarter than that and don't fall for Wade's little scheme.

  • In reply to Vedo:

    Vedo,

    Wade's BITTER.

  • In reply to Vedo:

    First, I love the title.

    Second, no one can wrestle the title of "Knicks Franchise Destroyer" away from Isaiah Thomas. His legacy is safe and title undisputed.

    Third, I think you hit it on the head with Wade's motives: secure a superstar for the Heat and hurt the main competition. The pandemonium of the "LeBron-to-Chicago" and "Bosh-will-follow-LeBron" rumors might be too much for him. Plus, it doesn't bode well that he hasn't been covered much. He took himself out of the limelight with his "my heart is in Miami" announcements. But he certainly want that to be thrown back in his face if Miami can only attract Amare or Boozer (assuming they don't bolt for the Knicks or Nets).

    "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer."

  • In reply to Vedo:

    Just attention whores. Why are they all meeting anyway? Wade can't leave Miami now after this whole loyalty thing. So that leaves Lebron, Johnson & Bosh. Has nothing to do with Wade. Lebron will go where he thinks he will have more success. If Lebron is looking to become a "global" icon, he will NOT choose Miami. I just don't see how Wade can benefit from this. Lebron will choose between Chicago or NY and Bosh will try to follow leaving Wade with none of the "big 3" that are meeting at the roundtable. Wade will end up with Amare or Boozer. What's Wade's angle?

  • In reply to Dileg:

    Why cant they just call eachother lol

    I hope Wade ends up with Lee or Boozer lol

  • In reply to Vedo:

    This is bad PR for the Bulls. I really feel Wade is going to damage the Bulls reputation in this type of meeting.

    I hope the other players can see through is BS.

    Wade is enemy #1 for bulls fans.

  • In reply to postdiction:

    postdiction,

    Wade is ABSOLUTELY getting killed in the media for his statment about Bulls' loyalty.

    Check the BLEACHERREPORT (Miami and Chicago).

    Plus, Wade himself rescinded his own comments to the Sun-Sentinel.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Thanks for the info.

    I hope there isn't much effect. I wonder what lies he is spreading to LBJ and Bosh privately

    This is particularly hard for me because, I am a big Wade fan and I know a HS teammate of his.

    It feels like getting stabbed in the back.

    I hope Wade gets booed big time when he goes to the UC.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    GAR FORMAN RESPONDS TO WADE'S COMMENTS:

    He should have.

    http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/05/forman-defends-bulls-loyalty.html

    Good for him.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    good job Gar! Now dont say nothing else...we dont need to be getting in stupid arguments like this...hurts our organization...make Miami look stupid.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I personally think these guys started talking about joining forces but maybe it was just kinda like talk at the time and obviously things have changed in 3 years so maybe they have all gone in different directions as to wear they wanna end up. Maybe they just all wanna get on the same page. I don't know.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    THE NEW PACKAGE:

    Tom Thibodeau has signed with World Wide Wes (aka William Wesley).

    http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/66847/20100527/thibodeau_signs_with_william_wesleys_agency/

    Thibodeau and LBJ...coming to a city (Chicago?) near you?

    (Give me Cheeks, Wade and Bosh...thank you very much.)

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Dude, are you serious? LBJ and Thidabeau would be the best thing we could imagine. Cheeks is ok but this guy could be great. We cant go wrong imo.

    And I dont want any part of Wade. Honestly, I dont think the Bulls even consider him now. f-him...

  • In reply to 1096ballenf:

    This is what I have been saying about Wade all along. The guy thinks he is bigger than Chicago and has no respect for his home town. Let him stay in Miami and hopefully the Bulls will make all of the right signings this summer and we will be beating Wade for a lot of years to come while he is down there on South Beach with the rest of the crack heads.

  • In reply to 1096ballenf:

    Don't be fulled by this announcement. The idea of such a meeting does not make any sense from any standpoint. Each of them is going to pursue his own selfish interests and their interests don't coincide. OPEC who has much close aligned goals can never control oil prices and you think these guys will be able to come up and abide by mutually acepted non-binding promises? Even if they have brains of a chicken and might sincerely believe that such a meeting would be meaningful their handlers are much smarter... what might happen and might make some sense that if one of them gets an offer he will try to recruit someone else or at least find out if another elite player would / could join that same team before accepting the offer but that has absolutely nothing to do with a ridiculous idea of a meeting beforehand.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    WOOOOOO Lol Thats awesome right there....hopefully the Bulls get a good look at Thibideau....i actually really like Thib...maybe he can bring Ray ALlen with him too.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    The meeting hasnt even been set yet either....who knows, there might not even be a meeting. Maybe just phone calls.

  • In reply to Vedo:

    This assembly of elite free agents sounds like a group of super villains deciding the fate of the world in a bad cartoon.

    I know it's not technically against NBA rules for players to talk, but if GMs or Owners assembled to discuss how they wanted to approach free agency, it would be collusion and people would freak out.

    You know guys around the league are gonna talk (e.g., Rose and Lebron's pow-wow), but this just seems shady.

  • In reply to Vedo:

    Wait, until Wade opts out of his 4th year, is he not a part of the Miami franchise? And doesn't his talking to free agents about destinations constitute tampering?

  • In reply to Vedo:

    keep this in mind. Wade does not have a big man like noah and does not have a All star point guard like rose. That is why he is making these comments. That is also the reason why bosh, bron and jj wanna come to "DA BULLS"! : )

  • In reply to vinmotors:

    +5

  • In reply to Vedo:

    In a way, if Lebron's motive's include (along with winning) becoming a global icon, Miami is not the place. He needs to look no further than Dwayne Wade. Wade was not able to reach icon status there and he's been one of the best players in the NBA for years. Lets face it, Miami has a lot of other attractions outside of sports (see southbeach).

    Now lets look at where, in the past, players have become Global Icons.

    LA (magic)
    Boston (bird)
    Chicago (Jordan)
    New York. (no one yet, because the knicks suck. jk)

    Taking the ifrst two out of the equation, and factoring in the fact clearly Chicago has a better core, LBJ has to see Chicago is the clear choice.

    Weve had a global icon, this is a city that has a track record that shows you can become a legend.

    Ditka still make a crap load of money in this city and he only won 1 Superbowl for christs sake.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    well put! I guess LBJ will be rocking that bulls jersey in a couple of months!

  • In reply to vinmotors:

    He should be and thats a good post. MJ is one of the biggest global sports stars ever....and he played in Chicago!

  • In reply to Dmband:

    This development is not good news for the Bulls, particularly since it is Wade doing the talking.

    Wade wants to stay in Miami, the only way the he does so is if at least one of the big guns comes to Miami.

    Miami. because it already has Wade can sign all three if they are able to salary dump Beasely, or get either Toronto or Cleveland to take him back in a S&T.

    MIami is the only team that can land all three. Although, technically the KNicks could if Toronto or Cleveland would take Eddie Curry in an S&T(not happenning of course).

    If find it interesting that apparently the initial group of three was Wade, Lebron and Johnson, not Bosh.

    A significant mitigating factor is that both Bosh and Wade will almost certainly demand the full 6year deal. Wade can get his from Miami, but Bosh needs the sign and trade to get his, then Lebron would have to settle for the lesser deal, which he might because a short term deal might be in his best interest long term.

    Of course this plan could blow up for one or more of this group if they start to split up and one guy feels left out. There are some massive egos involved.

    The real question becomes who is the leader of the group. Does Lebron think that he is, does everybody want to play with Lebron.

    The best thing that could happen for the Bulls would be a split between Lebron and Wade. IF they are on the same page the Bulls are screwed.

    I could live with Bosh in Miami as long as we get Lebron, then we dump Deng and fill in the team with Morrow and Love, or something like that.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Big,

    Nobody wants Beasley. Plus, other teams know what DUMPING Beasely means for Miami.

    It won't happen.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Beasley sucks....im still not impressed with him and he has been in the league for 2 years now.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    HENRY THOMAS' STATEMENT:

    * He has somewhat retracted Dwyane Wade's earlier comments.

    Two hours later, Wade's agent Henry Thomas said that talk of an actual summit is overstated.

    "There is no summit that has been planned before July 1 or anything like that," said Thomas, who also represents Bosh and works with the same agency that represents James.

    There is good reason for Thomas to walk back Wade's talk of a summit. Concerted action among free agents before July 1 could be against league rules since all of the players will still be under contract with their current teams until that date.

    via - RealGm

  • This is basically a chess match between various organizations using different pieces(media, players, ex-players, whoever) to attract what they need and create a public frenzy. Miami can sell lot of season tickets while NY/Bulls always do and will sell more.
    Strangely, ESPN is all about LeBron all the time and Wade has not been covered much. Maybe he was feeling left out of the media.

    But that said, the Bulls need to respond(not directly) but through indirect means to dispel this.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    100% agree with you..can't wait to see how the Bulls respond.

  • In reply to Vedo:

    Reading reactions from ex-Bulls who've needed help, and people in the organization, I'm thinking Wade shot himself in the foot. We'll have to see how it plays out long term.

    Overall, though, I think it's going to be a net positive for us.

  • In reply to msalivar:

    Bulls.com has Gar Formans defense...its pretty good too.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    These players are all going to do what they think is best for them. If you look like you have the best pieces, and have room for two max guys, you're good. That and a willingness to sign a name/winning experienced coach doesn't hurt either. Put down the Bulls as definitely fulfilling the first one of these three, and possibly the second. The third/coach looks very doubtful. If they reach all three citeria, again which I doubt, they'd likely end up very well.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    CHRIS BOSH IS THE KEY DOMINO.

    Unlike Wade and LBJ, he can't afford to sign straight up with a team. He is marketable, but not as much as LBJ and DWADE are.

    That's why I'm sticking to my theme.

    "Bosh leads to (_______)?" Fill in the blank.

    The LOYAL Bulls' management needs to do a S&T for Chris Bosh right out of the gate and have it announced on July 1. They also need to DUMP Kirk Hinrich (to Indiana?).

    That will force either DWADE or LBJ to come to the Bulls.

    These guys can meet all they want, but the owners still hold the POWER.

    That's how the system is set-up.

  • I hope he does start getting booed. He really screwed up here and Bulls fans are pissed.

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