Former Bulls leap to the defense of franchise

Former Bulls leap to the defense of franchise

After Dwyane Wade spouted off his insanity about the Bulls organization lacking loyalty, ex-Bulls from all over the place have leaped to defend it.

Phil Jackson:

"(Wade) made a statement about the Bulls not being loyal," Jackson
told NBA Fanhouse. "However, he forgot there are about six or seven
people there still with the Bulls like Bill Wennington and Stacey King
and John Paxson and on and on, Pete Myers and so forth and so on. But I
guess he was looking at Pippen and Jordan. I guess that was just the
front of the Bulls."

Jay Williams:

"D-Wade is absolutely wrong," Williams said Thursday evening in a phone
interview. "The Bulls did nothing but stand up for me in a time of
trouble. (Chairman) Jerry Reinsdorf and (then-general manager) John
Paxson were great to work with. Nobody said they had to take care of me
for an extra year after I got hurt.

"They kept me on medical insurance through surgery after surgery. They
showed me the family style that the organization was run by. I have no
words to explain what they did for me. I'm thankful to them for the rest
of my life."

Bob Love:

Franchise giant Bob Love even called from his hospital bed.

"I haven't walked in almost three weeks," Love told the Tribune. "I've
been really down. I suffered an acute case of gout that I almost caught
too late. I kept hurting and didn't know what it was and I was treating
it with the wrong medication.

"Jerry Reinsdorf, (marketing vice
president) Steve Schanwald and (legal vice president) Irwin Mandel
searched around and found doctors for me. They said don't worry about
the costs. Just get me up here walking. (Friday) I'm supposed to be able
to get out of bed for the first time in weeks."

Randy Brown:

"It's funny because sometimes you hear other people say Jerry can be
too loyal," said Randy Brown, a former player and now a player
development coach.

Brown joins Love, Paxson, Pete Myers, Bill
Wennington and Stacey King as former players currently working for the
organization. The late Johnny "Red" Kerr and Norm Van Lier had longtime

The article goes on to discuss Pippen calling Krause to thank him later on when the Bulls gave him an extra 23 million dollars by S&Ting him to Houston. How the Bulls financed surgeries to try to repair Bill Cartwright's larynx.   It brings up bunch of guys who worked for the organization in some capacity over the years.

Heck, many of our personnel problems are perhaps grounded in the idea that the Bulls were too loyal to present players and overpaid them to stay.

For his part, D-Wade sort of back tracked on twitter saying his comments were taken out of context.


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  • Wade is spouting off because he's worried the heat will miss out on bosh or lebron this summer. I hope we can snag one of the two and beat the dog shit out of Miami until Wade's career is over.

  • In reply to ohbullsfan:

    hahaha lol ya im not really a big fan or Wade hoping we can land LeBron an beat Miami until his career is over too lol

  • It was interesting to read a Sam Smith article about Gar Forman defending the franchise's loyalty yesterday and learned that only 3 former players have roles within the franchise and minor ones at that.

    It's funny. Embroiled in a bitter divorce and with Pat Riley's history of backstabbing coaches Stan Van Gundy and Erik Spoelstra, you'd think Wade would want to stay away from topics of loyalty.

  • First off, Dwyane Wade is getting killed in the media for his comments. I haven't seen one online site or newspaper not support the Bulls' organzation over Dwyane Wade.

    Secondly, if I were Dwyane Wade I wouldn't be burning any bridges with the Bulls' organization. When it's all said and done, coming to Chicago might be his best place to win more championships.

    PG - Rose
    SG - Wade
    SF - Deng
    PF - Bosh
    C - Noah

    It's either that, or he can watch LBJ and BOSH team-up in his hometown and win titles.

    PG - Rose
    SG - Hinrich
    SF - James
    PF - Bosh
    C - Noah

    I believe one of those two lineups will materialize come this July.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I hope your right.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    D-wade can suck eggs. I dont want him on my team. And its so funny how a guy so loyal didnt resign with his team, want other players to join his team and be disloyal to their teams.

    So he is loyal but wants everyone else to be disloyal. Isnt that disloyal? Its really unethical and morally wrong.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Loyal organizations, hmm.. let's see: "Former" coach and head of operations for the franchise Riley i.e. Dad apparently to Wade who does his bidding by bashing/sabotaging the Bulls the way Riley instructs his players to do during games.

    Riley slitting the throat of one of the league's bright new/top coaches in Stan Van Gundy so he could have a healthy Shaq and Wade for his own ends/glory.

    Riley stating if the right star player(s) comes along his well regarded defensive protege in Spoelstra would be fired if that opportunity presents itself.

    Riley has always been a Machiavellian user of his players picking guys he can control like puppets to do his cheap shot bidding. Alonzo Mourning was not a dirty player/cheap shot artist? Shaq didn't take an inadvertent number of cheap shots when he joined Riley?

    And now the cheap shots extend off the court as Riley is trying to get his boy to hook up in a media campaign and player sit down to bash the Bulls/eliminate the competition.

    It's so fitting to Riley's ego that he doesn't acknowledge he was beaten fairly despite his thug army he created in New York by the Bulls. He simply in a bizarre manner sports Michael Jordan's number from his rafters as if to say had it not been for "bad luck" that Micahel didn't play for me(as Magic and Kareem did), I would have not been defeated.

    Riley should never have won that series with Dallas either. That game in Miami with the phantom foul call for Wade deciding the end of that game was a crime. It's a good thing for Riley Stern hated Cuban as much as he did. If not for that last "championship" where all Miami did was Rodmanize post up layers so they couldn't catch the ball, and hyper-extend doubling of the point guard so he was smothered. Guaranteed a coach like Jackson, Pop etc. would have adjusted to such thuggish tactics and overplay. Good thing Riley only had Avery Johnson who had the talent to win 67 games, but got gimmicked/outcoached by Don Frickin' Nelson.

    Riley you ruined Pat Ewing's career as you've used/ruined many guys career's since you left L.A. And what have you surrounded Wade with for years but garbage. He will always be known as part of a tainted tank job if ever there was one to throw a season to get the No.1 Derrick Rose. Good thing it didn't work. Instead what did you get for your cheating and scheming? One Michael (Mrs.) Beasley. And well deserved. Too bad for a troubled kid like Beasley he's with such a user in Riley who doesn't give a damn about him anyway.

    If there's any justice other G.M.'s will stop letting Riley use/punk them, and Wade will just get the f-ck out of dodge, and get his shit straight with a good group of guys who also have backbone say like the Bulls. I blame Riley much more for this bashing/sabotage then I do Wade. Dwyane just needs to wake the f-ck up, and quit being such a d-bag. For Riley, a lifelong prick, there is no hope.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    By the way. This whole loyalty thing is a cheap attempt at exploiting the mishdnadled situation with Vinny.

    Indeed the Bulls should have politically amidst the media fire storm just stated Vinny was the coach for the rest of the season. Sometimes you do just have to play the game.

    Ironically though as history, literature, movies etc. have often depicted it's often a complete injustice/misinterpreation of the reality of the situation that gets perpetrated as a "cause" to villainize someone or some institution, country etc. It's the genius of Shakespeare such as in Othello, and a timeless opportunist campaign of villainy that you certainly have the vehicle for/to be exploited in today's reactionary/looking for a villain to make money media. And usually the fuel for the fire is a legit dislike. In the Bulls case that would be their owners insulting, disingenuous way he's handled other coaches(hires) and statements to the fans/media that are hogwash.

    Most ironically, it was the "victim" in all of this Vinny, who never stood up for his players with the refs, nor exhibited a manly comraderie with them at any time whatsoever with a sterile, extremely unsatisfying "existence" with them on the court before, and during games.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    We can't get both Wade and Bosh since they both want the extra 6th year, which requires a S&T.

    We have the assets for one S&T, but not 2, and Deng almost has to be one of those assets to make the money work.

    Hinrich could be used, but he will only be in a deal for salary cap purposes, not talent. You can at least make an argument for Deng on talent.

  • Looks like the comments Wade made have backfired on him with these others stepping up in support it may show the Bulls do more things RIGHT by ex-players than most franchises. Thanks DWade for setting the ball in motion.

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    +2 yep....he saw everyone was getting a little attention, so he tried to make some news and now its really backfiring at him lol He's a idiot and his ego is pretty see those stupid phone commercial where he is all posing and stuff.

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    The Bulls offered the head coaching gig to a guy that has never even coached before lol I bet no other team in the league would do that. Vinny should be a appreciative if anything to us.

  • In reply to UnstopaBull:

    Former Bulls like Love, Jay Williams coming to the defense doesn't make much of a difference. Pippen has to come out on this and also advise some Free Agents on this. Otherwise, the perception will exist as Riley-Wade have planted the seed of doubt. Whatever we think of Riley, he is known as a HOF Coach and I as assuming he has more respect than Gar/Pax in the NBA community.
    All that said, probably one player can join Wade in Miami and hopefully NY doesn't steal the others.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    I agree.
    Pippen is a contributor. I'm sure he is preparing an article on the subject right now

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    What about the fans? Chicago fans still filled the UC in the "lean" years and the Heat can barely get half a stadium full. His only loyalty is to himself......and he can shove his loyalty up his ass.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    I was listening to Will Perdue last night on Westwood one radio and he talked about the loyalty of the Bulls mentioning how they paid MJ over 60 million in 2 years which is unheard of even today. He mentioned that the Bulls offered MJ a role in the organization but that MJ declined it. He mentioned how the Bulls have helped Pip through the years and that, get this they were talking about bring Pippen back this year as an assistant coach with whoever they hire. I'd love that.

    Will Perdue was solid in defending the Bulls.

  • In reply to souleater7:

    Man, if anyone can make something of JJ, it's Scottie! I'm sure he would help Noah with his passing game, too.

    I wonder if that would be appealing to Lebron.

  • In reply to msalivar:

    I would love Pippen on the sidelines and in practice with LBJ6.

  • In reply to msalivar:

    All this has done for Wade is burn his chance at coming to chicago, I thought the bulls would take a chance at him but its clear the bulls will be after James Bosh and Johnson, I wonder if D rose can show up to that secret meeting and tell Wade to leave.

  • In reply to msalivar:

    I just saw Chris Broussard on ESPN talking about a potential 82-0 team... He said Bron, Wade and Bosh could all play together in Miami if, and this is a huge if, they are all willing to start their contracts around 13 mill a season. That's not that big of a drop off... It's probably less likely than Reinsdorf paying the tax but for a moment there I was scared of how bad that would suck

    Watching basketball would be pointless...I'd have to do something else with my time because Miami would easily win the next several titles. The good thing is no one has even contemplated any of the three, let alone all of them, taking less than the max not to mention I don't think their egos could take it.

  • In reply to MADman24:

    Actually, they can give all 3 the max, if they salary dump Beasely, or S&T him for Bosh. Wade can/will get the 6 year deal, Bosh could in an S&T, then Lebron would have to settle for the 5 year deal, or maybe even something shorter.

    But they could all get max salaries.

  • In reply to MADman24:

    I just dont see it happening....Bosh,Wade and Bron...I think LeBron wants help but not that much imo. But who knows....we got about a month more of we will see what happens.

  • In reply to msalivar:

    Scottie Pippen on the sidelines would be unreal lol He deff. would help out a lot of our guys and im pretty positive they would listen to him. Probably even LeBron lol He could help Rose, James Johnson, Deng, Noah, Taj...shoot scottie would help the whole team lol Bulls should hire Thibideau and then put Scottie somewhere in the coaching staff. Pippen would finally get a chance at LeBron is practice too lol hahaha

  • In reply to msalivar:

    Of course, thats if LeBron signs here...BUT i think the addition of Scottie would be a good idea.

    I wonder what Wade would say then lol "Wheres Scottie at???"

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