A plethora of Bulls head coaching updates

Bulls like Thibodeau and Casey:

Despite five teams currently without head coaches, there hasn't been
much reported overlap on candidates the Bulls are eyeing. Dwane Casey,
a finalist when Vinny Del Negro got the job in 2008, is being
considered by New Orleans. And Tom Thibodeau, who could draw interest
from the Bulls when the Celtics' playoff run ends, also has been
mentioned as a possibility in New Orleans and New Jersey.

But not really:

But an NBA source has said Bulls general manager Gar Forman has
settled on the model for his ideal candidate -- someone who has had not
only head-coaching experience, but also postseason experience in the
league.

The premium on playoff experience seemingly would eliminate a few
candidates -- Kevin McHale, Dwane Casey and Eric Musselman -- linked to
the Bulls' search. It wouldn't eliminate Kentucky coach John Calipari,
who made the playoffs with the New Jersey Nets in 1998.

But the Bulls don't like Byron Scott or Avery Johnson:

Playoff experience is no guarantee a candidate will get an
interview. The candidates with perhaps the most postseason experience
-- Byron Scott and Avery Johnson, who each reached the NBA Finals --
don't appear to be on the Bulls' radar.

The Bulls have done background on Franks and Cheeks:

League sources said the Bulls have done background work on Lawrence Frank and Maurice Cheeks.

I'm not real sad about missing out on Avery Johnson or Byron Scott if that's the case.   Lawrence Franks and Maurice Cheeks both appeal to me in some ways and not in others.

I'm officially pulling for Jeff Van Gundy, but I still maintain that it's too difficult for fans to really grade coaches because we don't get to see enough of their job performance to really have an accurate assessment.

We'll see how the search goes on.

Everyone seems in agreement that the Bulls are taking their time which could indicate that they're interested in some candidates who are still in the playoffs as assistants.

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  • Have you heard Stan Van Gundy's recent comments on the Bulls and his brother? Not looking real positive.

    As for speculation that Jeff is a possible candidate for the Bulls opening, Stan was skeptical.

    "I don't think he will coach again next season," he said. "I think there's other priorities in his life. I'd be surprised, in fact, I'd be very, very, surprised if he were back coaching next year."

    When asked specifically if he thought his brother would listen if a team like the Bulls came calling, the Orlando coach went a step further.

    "I don't even think he would have a willingness to interview," he said.

    Jerry Reinsdorf makes my head hurt.

  • Well sounds like Frank and Cheeks are the guys so far? Not sure how I feel about either of those guys but I can't help but feel underwhelmed. I think this coaching choice needs to be a statement in our free-agency and I don't see how either of these guys help our chances there. The one thing I find encouraging is that we are looking for "playoff experience". I still like Avery because now that the Mavs continue to get trounced out of the playoffs after coasting through the regular season, we can no longer solely blame the coach for their lack of a clutch performance. Thanks for the update Doug- let's hope the Bulls make more of a splash than this. We need to define a clear direction - something that has not been done to this point. Basically it comes down to "who fits best with Noah and Rose?" and "what style of game suits those two guys?". Those are the only two "for-sure's". And I don't know enough about these guys yet.

  • When the V.P. and G.M. pursue coaches, and the owner gets on the phone, and personally insults guys(D'Antoni) so that they no longer are candidates, it's freaky.

    Thus it is with the Bulls. Tell you what. Why doesn't Reinsdorf just quit with the phony you guys are in charge of finding the coach crap, and give them a list of three inexpensive, B listers(Lawrence Milk Toast Frank, Mo Let the Players Run the Asylum Cheeks), and then they(Gar and Pax) can have their choice.

    Let's not have the 52 Day Amercia/Bulls Fans held hostage update. Just quit wasting our time, give Pax/Gar the f-ing list, and hire some second rate jag. God knows they won't hire anybody considered first rate Jeff Van Gundy, Byron Scott, Avery Johnson etc.

    "It's a process. It's process oriented. I/we don't want to be put min a box." Gar/Pax I wish someone would put you in a box, and close the lid. Permananetly. Just pick some lame ass, and get dashing all our hopes over with.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    I agree. I've never heard of an owner scaring off a coaching candidate, then turning around and talking another coach (Doug Collins)out of taking the job. Add to that, Jerry taking over contract negotiations by overpaying one free-agent and letting the other walk for nothing. Why do we even have a GM?

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    Doug,

    When I think of Jeff Van Gundy the name John Starks comes to mind for some reason.

    The John Starks experiment didn't work and I don't think a Jeff Van Gundy one would either. Can Chicago Bulls' fans really embrace the guy given his past battles with Bulls' teams? Like Starks, I'm not seeing it.

    Plus, I think JVG stays in broadcasting. He's good at it and seems to like it.

    Add all that to his comments about the Bulls' management and he's on the outside looking in.

    MO CHEEKS or SAM MITCHELL are still my TOP 2 choices for the job.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Among the many things that we need in a coach is a huge personality. Cheeks and Mitchell both have close to no personality.

    We'll just add them to the ever expanding list of things that you were wrong about.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    Is anybody else watching the Magic and Hawks game? Joe Johnson looks horrible. I'm agreeing with Doug. No max contract for Joe Johnson. I've never heard home fans boo so loud in the playoffs. I bet the Atlanta fan base will be glad to let him walk if he tries to get max money. Sadly, I now rank John Salmons as the next best shooting guard in free agency. They just announced that this series was the most lopsided series by point margin in NBA history. Wow.

  • In reply to kbar17:

    I agree that Joe Johnson looks bad for a max contract for 5/6 years. But that said, just don't assume he is bad because there are a lot of factors in play against Orlando. He is not that bad nor he is a great superstar. He can easily be the 3rd best player.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Actually, since most of you guys on this site are stat geeks, you should check this link from the Clippers true hoop blogger.

    http://clipperblog.com/2010/04/28/window-shopping/

    Johnson comes in surprisingly strong in many of those stats that you guys(including Doug)love.

    Johnson has looked horrible, but the bulls would be a much better team with Johnson over the next five years than we would ever have been with Ben Gordon, or than we ever will be with Luol Dung.

    Doesn't mean that I want to pay him the max, but I would swap him for Dung's contract in a heartbeat.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    I am also in the Van Gundy camp despite his Knickness.

    Throw 4-5 million at him and I am sure that his mindset changes.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    Btw guys, our friend Mr Happy wrote into Sam Smith and asked for his opinion on the Batman and Robin analogy. Have fun!:

    I'm having this great debate online about Derrick Rose. I think the Bulls' management has to classify Derrick Rose as a "BATMAN" or a "ROBIN" moving forward. And that they need to do it prior to free-agency in July. I believe that will dictate their direction. To me LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, and Carmelo Anthony are all BATMAN's, while Chris Bosh, David Lee, Amar'e Stoudemire, Carlos Boozer and Joe Johnson are all ROBIN's. The question is, "How does John Paxson and Gar Forman perceive Derrick Rose?" If they perceive him as a BATMAN, then they should target Bosh, Lee, Amar'e, Boozer or Johnson. But if they perceive him as a ROBIN, then they should target Wade, LBJ or Melo. What's your take on that? If Bosh comes to Chicago does he play the role of BATMAN or ROBIN?

    CW

    Sam: You mean like Holmes and Watson? Mantle and Maris? Nancy and Sluggo? Ben and Jerry? Castor and Pollix? Rocky and Bullwinkle? Derrick Rose is the guy other than LeBron James. If LeBron comes to the Bulls, Derrick becomes a bit more setup. Anyone else, Derrick is the guy. In the next three years he could become a top five NBA player and MVP candidate. Say the Bulls get Bosh, he may score more. But when you need a score, you

  • In reply to kbar17:

    Yea I am not at all expecting us to even mention JVG.

    He seems like a guy with to much moral and dignity to want to work for the Bulls after wht they did to Vinny.

    We look so bad in the public eye as far as coaches go. We fired Skiles on christmas eve. You cant get much colder than that. Oh wait, we did when our GM sucker punched the coach in his office. No great coach will want to coach us. No matter how good rose and noah are.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    WHAT IF...

    To Bulls: Chris Bosh
    To Raptors: Taj Gibson, James Johnson, Omer Asik and a #1 Pick

    To Bulls: Dwyane Wade
    To Heat: Luol Deng, Kirk Hinrich and a #1 Pick (James Anderson?)

    CHICAGO'S LINEUP:

    PG - Rose, SG - Wade, SF - FA (QRICH?, DWRIGHT?, OUTLAW?), PF - Bosh, C - Noah

    MIAMI'S LINEUP:

    PG - Chalmers, SG - Draft - Anderson?, SF - Deng, PF - Beasley, C -Draft - Sanders?

    TORONTO'S LINEUP:

    PG - Calderon/Jack, SG - Weems/DeRozen, SF - Turkoglu/Johnson, PF - Gibson/Evans, C - Bargnani/Asik

    * Turkoglu and Asik are teammates on the Turkey National Team.

    Now, sure this looks like a long-shot, but if the dominoes fall right wouldn't that be nice?

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    why is avery johnson considered first rate? Can someone please explain that to me? He had a 50 win team in the bag and performed as expected. Do you think Mike Woodson is a first rate coach? He improved the Hawks every year he's been there.

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