KC Johnson has made me sad

No, not because he didn't report a story.   How that's an issue is beyond me.  Sam Smith sat on so many Michael Jordan stories that he was able to write two books about them, and you're telling me that KC sitting on a story about a coach who's absolutely being fired at the end of the season is an issue?   Please.

No, what makes me sad is this:

I would think Taj's performance this season will factor in how the Bulls
approach free agency. I don't think they'd be fooled into overprojecting
what Taj might become. In other words, if they think they can get Chris
Bosh, I don't think they'd not do so because they have Gibson. The goal
is to get better. You do that any way you can in the rare times you
have this much cap space. I don't know how Gibson's performance would
factor in if management felt they had legitimate chances to land Bosh or
Johnson. I'd lean towards your thinking. Sign Johnson because Taj is at
least viable and Johnson fills a need
.

Et tu K.C.? 

There are so many reasons why I hate this rational:

1) Bosh is the better player.   I say this first because it's most important.  When in doubt, you take the better player.  That's Bosh.

2) Bosh fills the more important need.   What's more important to fill, the guy who's the second focal point of the offense because he's running a million pick and rolls with Rose or the guy who needs to stand on the perimeter and shoot.

3) Bosh fills the position that's harder to find.   It's a lot easier to get a quality guard in the draft than a quality big man.   There are just so many fewer guys with legit size/athleticism/coordination to choose from.

4) Bosh is on a larger upwards trend than Johnson. He's coming off of a career year while Joe Johnson has hit a plateau, and that plateau is a sub 20 PER level plateau.  That's not all that special folks.

5) Johnson runs the highest percentage of isolations of any SG in the NBA.  Didn't we run Gordon out of town for getting about 20% of his offense playing one on one while Johnson gets around 33% of his offense doing that?   It will be simply awesome watching him dominate the ball while Rose stands around and watches.

6) Yes, Johnson provides shooting, but you don't pay 18+ million a year to a guy to provide shooting.

7) Almost all great teams have a great offensive perimeter player paired with a great offensive interior player.   Most teams which max out around the second round of the playoffs are built around two great offensive perimeter players.  The Chicago Bulls are an exception to this rule [Jordan/Pippen], but the best player in the NBA and another top five guy.   That'd be closer to LeBron and Wade being paired than Rose/Johnson.

8) You fit your role players around your top level talent not the other way around.  Let's ignore for a moment, that Gibson's ideal role is 3rd big man, and getting Bosh puts him in that role.   Would you pick Joe Johnson or Chris Bosh over LeBron James because we have a better SF than SG or PF?  No.  That's ridiculous.   It's equally ridiculous to pass on Bosh because Gibson's a capable player at his position.  Kirk is just as capable at SG as Bosh is at PF.

It's okay to pursue Joe Johnson.   It's just not okay to pursue him ahead of Chris Bosh.

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  • The way the article reads is that the Johnson over Bosh idea was something KC bought into, but not necessarily what he thought the bulls would do.

  • I must have missed the influence magic spell Joe Johnson put on many Chicago sports writers and broadcasters. How can they not see he's second tier this offseason? He's not in Bosh, Bron or Wade's league.

    Honestly if it comes down to signing no one or Johnson at $18 mill per season, I pick no one. Doing otherwise wouldn't give a legitimate shot at a title and would crush or cap flexibility, although it would put us the proverbial one piece away from being contenders.

  • In reply to MADman24:

    Bosh isn't in Lebron's or Wade's league either. He is the head of second tier. What has Bosh done that makes him a tier better than Stat or Boozer? Led the league in scoring? No. Led the league in rebounds. No. Led the league in blocks? No. Led his team to a playoff series win? No. Led his team to the playoffs this year? No. Led in MVP votes? No. I don't even think he's been All NBA first team. Bosh is better than anyone not named Lebron or Wade this free agency season, but he's closer to being Boozer than a Lebron.

  • In reply to kbar17:

    Amen, brother

  • In reply to MADman24:

    KC screwed up and he is not admitting it. In hindsight, he was always telling the Bulls will not make the playoffs. He must have guessed this incident and injuries will derail them.

    Although I agree that Bosh is in a different tier, signing somebody like Morrow or a draft pick is not everything. They are shooting guards like Korver, Reddick, Kapono who are defensively so inefficient that they cannot be starters for a good team. I think that's where Johnson is better and is valued high in the NBA.

    But his issue is his age...I think this will be his second FA contract. If we can Johnson for 3 years, that's great but otherwise we are looking at a Alfonso Soriano like signing

  • In reply to MADman24:

    One last thought in regards to whether KC did it for the right reasons.

    KC stated that he didnt want to report it "out of respect for those involved".

    Since when are FACTS disrespectful to anyone. Its not as if he was speculating on what happened as he clearly had specific knowledge or information about what took place.

    I can imagine Woodward and Bernstein saying the same thing:

    "Out of respect for Mr. Nixon, we decided to sit on the story. "

    Not buying it. Sorry.

    Also, Im pretty sure its his editors job to determine what goes to print or not.

  • In reply to MADman24:

    Carmelo Anthony (2011) or Chris Bosh (2010)...who do you want more?

    SIGN-AND-TRADES:

    To Bulls: Carmelo Anthony and a throw-in (Balkman?)
    To Nuggets: Luol Deng, Kirk Hinrich, Taj Gibson and draft picks

    To Bulls: Chris Bosh and a throw-in (Banks?)
    To Raptors: Luol Deng, Kirk Hinrich, Taj Gibson and draft picks

    * That's what I believe the Bulls are looking at right now.

  • In reply to MADman24:

    MIAMI DOOMSDAY SCENARIO

    If these scenarios occur, Wade will leave Miami for Chicago. Each one of these are real possiblities:

    1. Lebron stays in Cleveland. Even worse if he goes to New York.

    2. The Suns, who clinched home court in first round yesterday, advance deep into playoffs. Stoudemire stays in Phoenix.

    3. Lakers don't win title. Trade Bynum or Gasol for Bosh. This would be an ideal trade for both teams and it keeps Kobe happy.

    4. Joe Johnson stays in Atlanta or goes to New York if Lebron says no.

    That leaves Boozer, Gay, and Lee as the only big names left. Are any enough for Wade to commit? Keep in mind that the Bulls, Clippers, Nets, and Wizards have cap space to chase these last three players. Not to mention the Knicks with or without Lebron. I can see all of this falling out if the Suns rise and the Lakers fall.

  • In reply to MADman24:

    Doug-

    My example was to show how ridiculous the explanation was. It doesnt even make sense. He didnt leak it out of respect for Vinny, but most now believe Vinny leaked it HIMSELF.

    As soon as I hear a reasonable explanation, that may help.

    Majority of writers (former and current writers) are also saying they would have never held this.

    It doesnt make sense. And the explanation is weak. Furthermore, to say that it wasnt a big deal is also false and to say it wasnt a mistake to hold it is ALSO false.

  • In reply to MADman24:

    ESPN and every sports radio show in Chicago and TNT would disagree with you that it wasnt a big deal.

    That being said, I guess we will agree to disagree. I appreiciate your willingness to debate the topic though...

  • 100% agree on every point. IMO, Johnson should be a consolation prize for losing out on Bosh / Stat / Wade / Boozer.

    How many years have we been bawling for a legit PF? Please Bulls dont get caught up with Taj fricking Gibson. I like the kid? as much as anyone, but he is not a reason to forgo our 10 year search of a PF into a player slightly better than Gordon with a max contract. AAARGGGGGHHH!!!

    " It will be simply awesome watching him dominate the ball while Rose stands around and watches."
    Thats my biggest nightmare.

    Oh, and on the KC thing, I actually commend him for not wanting to mess with the already roller coaster Bulls team at the end of the season. Journalists hold stories all the time. And it goes back to that thing, where sometimes the "truth" does more damage than it fixes. Especially when its something that the public / press have absolutely 0 need in knowing about. Period.

  • Also, I commend Noah and semi chewing out the Press...
    Focus on how hard these guys have fought to get into the playoffs, not some dumb ass (mostly verbal) argument between and Irish and Italian guy I mean cmon. This crap happens daily in the NBA, leave it to the Bulls management to have a leaky snitch though....Sigh.

    Nothing can bring me down right now though after getting into the playoooooofffsss!!!! Yeah I know we'll get creamed : ) thats not the point.

  • Just say no to Joe. Dude's game is aging fast. I see him having maybe 2 more solid years before he fades into the history books. You can't even legitimately compare him to da predator Bosh.

  • Doug, completely agree on the Bosh/Johnson thing. We are brothers in arms there.

    But you should be worried about KC's opinions, since apparently he's a friend of the Org. now instead of doing his job best.

    The Sam Smith analogy doesn't wash given what KC writes himself as an explanation. He didn't hold the information for a bigger journalistic payoff later. And he didn't do it to 'preserve relationships' for future access, a crap excuse anyway because you use your access to get stories like this, not the other way around.

    He says himself it was "for a more humane reason". Fine, KC seems like a cool dude and a great guy. I'm not his pal though, so I couldn't care less: it hurts his worth as a beat reporter, except to maybe glean his own writing as what the Org. wants us to hear. So maybe they do want Joe Johnson.

  • McGraw's been pushing the idea that they can sign Johnson and S/T for a PF, which seems impossible. I agree that the sentiment amongst the reporters (and since they're chatting with Bulls execs it no doubt feeds into their own speculation) is with Joe Johnson, and it's a worry.

    Back to KC, since both you and him think there's nothing wrong:

    I get beat reporters sitting on stories for the use of a potentially bigger story later. This WAS the big story. I don't think we're getting any special info later from KC as a result of holding this. AND EVEN KC HIMSELF said that wasn't the reason in the first place, he held the story to be nice.

    The Bulls beat as a whole is pretty much trash. McGraw is good but is relatively small-time. KC's worried about the 'humanity' of high-paid NBA executives. John Jackson is asleep. 3rd biggest media market in the country. Small-time team means small-time beat, I guess.

  • anthony morrow for 2 million a year! and anyone but joe johnson(unless JR signs an affidavit stating he's willing to go DEEEPPP!!!!!! into luxury tax).

    dear god will our cap be screwed with Joe johnson noah, deng, and rose.

  • It's true, even serious fans like you don't care if they win. :-p You also have a very low expectation for professional journalists.

    That's fine that you accept the local beat is no good, but for me it's on to Yahoo! for all my Bulls news.

    Sadly I don't think Joe Johnson would raise the profile of the Bulls to warrant a serious beat either.

  • It's true, even serious fans like you don't care if they win. :-p You also have a very low expectation for professional journalists.

    That's fine that you accept the local beat is no good, but for me it's on to Yahoo! for all my Bulls news.

    Sadly I don't think Joe Johnson would raise the profile of the Bulls to warrant a serious beat either.

  • " and you're telling me that KC sitting on a story about a coach who's absolutely being fired at the end of the season is an issue? Please."

    Again. A head coach and GM fighting is a HUUUUUUUUUGE story. Enough so to have the NBA investigate, and have both the coach and team bring in lawyers.

    Doug, Im sorry man, you couldnt be more wrong about this. Im not trying to beat a dead horse here, but he should've reported it. I dont even think thats debateable at this point.

  • I read them all, but I mean for actual big Org. news I'll have to go elsewhere. I think 'interesting post-game quotes' is an oxymoron.

    I know now that KC's priority is to the humanity of Bulls executives, and not his readers. And yes, I wish they were better. That's my whole point.

  • In reply to bullsblogger:

    Doug, I can't win when arguing with you. You're too smart and can always trump my rants by saying you don't care, thus making me look like some kind of unhinged fringe element.

    No hard feelings, all's fun in Bulls-ville :)

  • In reply to bullsblogger:

    I have to agree with Dmband in that you have to report a physical exchange between a G.M. and a head coach period, but I don't want to see what I views as K.C.'s one mistake being blown out of proportion or used to villify him. Just because this is so often what people read the media for every day doesn't make it right, or create a need for ironic justice.

    He's obviously a decent guy. But I do wish he'd at least admit to himself that there's no "explaining" what happened. He screwed up. Just admit it, at least to yourself, and then move on. He should still be the beat writer for the Bulls for the next ten years or whatever, and just have learned from it. Case closed.

  • In reply to bullsblogger:

    I keep reading "Beat reporters do this all the time"

    If someone could please reference a specific situation in which a beat reporter held out information as it related to executive having a physical altercation, please let me know.

    Do beat reporters hold out stories such as two players scrapping in the locker room or a certain indiscretions they see on the road...sure.

    This is not EVEN COMPARABLE TO THAT.

    Look I understand the back scratching that goes on, I really do, but at the end of the day if you are a journalist of a MAJOR newspaper, you have an obligation to your readers and the fans of the team to report this.

    Im gonna drop it because I really like his articles, but please, for the love of god, stop defending the action. It was a big mistake.

    AND NO, BEAT REPORTERS DONT DO THAT ALL THE TIME!

  • In reply to bullsblogger:

    LIVE STREAM:

    Chris Bosh is speaking right now about his future.

    http://www.nba.com/raptors/news/raptors_postup.html

  • In reply to bullsblogger:

    I'd love to see Bosh paired with Noah OMG that would be fun to watch. Throw in a decent 3 pt threat SG starter and one off the bench and we'd have a great team to watch for years to come!
    I agree it's much harder to get a athletic big then a SG who can actually shot decently and is pretty consistent.
    Taj is a good blue collar worker like Noah, but he isn't who this teams builds around like you would with Noah and Rose. He is a good 24 yr old rookie with good potential, who can start but hopefully if you sign Bosh then can come off the bench and be productive.

  • In reply to smiley:

    Anthony Morrow, MLE...

  • In reply to bullsblogger:

    Have to agree, although JJ at a less than max deal is interesting, but not before Bosh.

    The KC thing does raise two interesting questions. While I agree that sitting on the story wasn't that big a deal because these types of things happen a lot and aren't really that newsworthy, the fact that it has apparently happened multiple times with Vinny does point to something bigger. I had the impression he was just kind of a bumbling rah rah kind of guy who would be moved out and paid his final year to be somewhere else. They paid Skiles after he basically quit, so I think Vinny was going to get his money. But the independent investigators and the second leak of it being Vinny who instigated makes me think they might try and fire him with cause which would imply he was actually actively thwarting things.

    Second, KC sitting on the story means that the story was leaked at least twice. Somebody wanted it out there and I think that points to Vinny's agent trying to cover for the previous "not playing Noah" fiasco. It seems Vinny did that out of spite now.

  • In reply to bullsblogger:

    Chris Bosh said he would work with Toronto's GM, no matter what happens.

    If we are talking sign-and-trade, then who can the Bulls give up?

    * Noah to me is untouchable.

  • In reply to bullsblogger:

    LIVE STREAM:

    Toronto's Head Coach (soon).

    http://www.nba.com/raptors/news/raptors_postup.html

  • Huh? We can certainly say it was a mistake. "KC, you made a mistake." There, I said it.

  • The Nixon one, since, as KC even said, "Jobs were on the line"

  • STAY AWAY from Joe Johnson....GET me either Bosh or Amare before Joe Johnson...i rather have D Lee and a SG before Joe Johnson.

  • KC knew exactly what he was doing...he had a great story and he was going to save it until the end of the year. What better then a TNT game against Boston so the whole nation will hear about what he reported. He set this all up. And then the next morning we hear about Doc Rivers possibly leaving the Celtics....GO GET ME DOC RIVERS! He is from Chicago, knows our team well after playing them last year and he would get a great guard in Derrick Rose to coach. Oh and by the way, Bulls have enough money for a max player! GO GET DOC RIVERS!

  • 5248-

    Go into your boss's office and push him..

    Come back and report on whether or not it was a big deal.

    As far as the "shiny objects" comment, sorry we cant all be such cerebral sports fans as you.

    I prefer stories involving the team get reported. Just my opinion thats all.

  • Like i said....KC knew what he was doing. He just waited for the perfect time to throw it out there.

  • Doug-

    Both parties hired lawyers. If it happened all they time, they wouldnt have found that to be necessary.

    I work for a corporation in finance as well and I can assure you if I did this I'd be fired before I made it back to my desk.

    HR tends to frown upon physical confrontation between supervisors and thier employees.

    Come on.

  • I would love to pick up Morrow also, maybe we should look do an S&T for him. I suspect that he is not even on the Bulls radar, they can't do 2 things at once.

    Obviously, we don't get to see him day in day out, so I do wonder what his deficiencies are, other than not getting along with Don Nelson, which is not actually a problem.

  • I could not possibly care any less about KC, Del Bimbo, or Paxson for that matter.

    While I essentially agree with all of your points in this post, I still have to agitate a little bit.

    First, yes there are $18 million perimeter players who do nothing but wait around to shoot jumpers, some of whom have rings, and some who have just missed, see Allen, Ray, and Lewis, Rashard. There have been many others though not necesarliy successful. Allen Houston, Peja, even McGrady. Heck we have a soon to be $14 million dollar one, who can't even make any shots.

    But Mostly I am baffled by your extreme prejudice(dislike) towards Joe Johnson, when you were/are a major defender of Ben Gordon, yet you use Gordon as a reference to diss Johnson as a player.

    Johnson is far closer to Bosh as an NBA player than Gordon is to Johnson. Johnson is a top 4-5 2 guard with legitimate size for his position, Gordon is somekind of a part time toy.

    Bosh is also a top 5 player at his position, you could argue that he might be #1. However, there is no Kobe, or Wade at his position, maybe not even a Brandon Roy. I am not sure that Bosh is as good as, never mind better than Pau Gasol, who was basically useless without a Kobe.

    So they are comparable at their positions. Everything else being equal I would pick Bosh(Not trading Noah for him)mostly becuase of age, not necessarily position. If Johnson were Boshes age, the argument would be much tougher.

    There is something about Bosh that I simply don't like or trust, he has a certain softness of attitude or character(basketball) that just does not reak of being a winner. Does Johnson have more of this, I don't know for sure, but he seems to. does this make up for the differnce in age and basketball ability, again I don't know.

    It is this last reason that in my gut, not my head I prefer Amare to Bosh.

    The real problem with the free agent argument is that Lebron is #1, Wade is #5 or 10 when compared to Lebron, and Bosh is #20 or lower when compared to Lebron or Wade.

    Bosh is obiously not a Michael Jordan, and I don't think that he is even a Scottie Pippen. Rose is at best a Scottie Pippen, and due to lack of an overall floor game on both sides of the ball, I don't think that even he is a Scottie Pippen.

    so what do you accomplish with 2 max contracts(Rose will get his after 2 more years) for players that are not championship level second banannas.

    Unfortunately, this is the conundrum that the Bulls face this summer, and why it is really Lebron or Bust(slightly less bust if you get Wade), but they have no choice but to use the cap space when they have it.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Bosh is suspect to me. Every free agent beside Lebron or Wade is suspect. Again, I agree that Bosh is a lower risk, but he's Gasol without Kobe. Good not great. I might trade a valuable player, Noah, for a good player. I'll over pay for a good player. There is no way I do both.

  • Doug, just found this post by former NBA player Eddie Johnson, no relation to JOe.

    http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/johnson/2010/04/15/the-new-top-25/

    He has Joe Johnson ranked as the 16th best player in the league, Bosh as 14th, and Amare as #6. To some extent agreeing with/ justifying my just completed post.

  • Doug, I know it's a bit late so I doubt you'll get to responding to this one.

    But I have a comment...I think that Bosh has personality issues as well. He is a big cry baby who thinks he is better than he really is. I mean, come on, if the new CBA turns out to anywhere near is expected, signing any of these guys (minus Lebron of course) to a max effectively destroys your team. Bosh is a very good basketball player that fills a glaring hole, don't get me wrong. But I think that if they can steal Boozer for a Deng-esque contract (12-14/year) then I say go for it. This would leave the team with a bit more flexibility to fill the remaining roster out.

    I can't really put my finger on it but something smells foul around Bosh to me. I think he is a potentially major head case that can kill a team. And let's not forget, he is not much of a post player. Boozer, and to a lesser extent Amare, are. And both run the pick and roll as effectively as Bosh.

    On a pessimistic concluding note, I see the Bulls striking out once again. Just like a decade ago.

  • In reply to jt563905:

    Or overpaying David Lee because he's a "character" guy. Jesus lord do not do that. If we have 25 million locked up into Deng and Lee then this team is going nowhere really fast.

  • I say offer him the MLE. Provides incredibly efficient 3 point FG% as well as a prototypical sized SG to pair with Rose.

  • In reply to jt563905:

    can't offer the MLE if they've used up their cap space to sign someone outright.

  • In reply to tyger:

    I thought the whole point of the MLE was for when a team maxed their cap. I'm no salary guru though and trust your judgment.

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