Bulls screwed by refs; look for the league apology soon

Ignore for a moment that the Bulls could have done a million things differently to win this game.  Up by two points with the ball and little time left, Derrick Rose drove the lane, Courtney Lee grabbed his arm and yanked causing the ball to fly out of bounds.   Nets ball.

The call was excruciatingly bad in that there was such a clear angle of it, and we had to watch the replay over and over again as the refs had to watch it to see who to give the ball to.

This came after Lee previously bumped Rose to force a turnover on the previous possession.  Right after Devin Harris got a complete phantom foul.   Following this play Brook Lopez was sent to the line on contact less than Rose had just absorbed to tie the game.

In second OT, the Nets continued to get all the calls.  Brad Miller called for a dicey over the back, Yi getting a weak charge, and the Nets go on to win.

Will the NBA send the Bulls an apology?   They owe them one.   This game was clearly stolen from them.   A game that may determine the final playoff spot.  Taken, indisputably, by the refs. 

All that said, it's disappointing the Bulls made the game this close.   Derrick Rose turned into Mr. Anti-clutch down the stretch of this game or else the Bulls would have won.  He missed a critical shot near the end of regulation [though Noah tipped it in], then he split his FTs when the Nets intentionally fouled.

In the first OT, he had two turnovers [though he was fouled on both, there's no way he should have lost the ball on the first one], and then missed the game winning attempt at the buzzer.   What made that one worse was that he didn't even try to drive the lane 25 seconds after the refs had to watch a replay 10 times of them screwing him over, a call they couldn't change, but could make up. 

In the second OT, Rose couldn't get anything going offensively, missed a shot and then fouled out.

I don't know if Joakim Noah is just on a minute limit, but why he didn't play down the stretch over Taj Gibson is beyond me otherwise.   If there was a minute limit, part of me still thinks, you're in a must win game in OT.   It's time to let him play an extra two to three minutes don't you thinhk?   Especially when he was one of your best players all game. 

As for the results?  Well, the Bulls still control their own destiny, but it's a weaker control than the Raptors have.   If the Bulls beat the Raptors their magic number is two with two to play.    If the Raptors win, their magic number is only one with two to play.

Can the Bulls hang on to the playoffs?   Hard to say.   However bad you feel about the Bulls right now, imagine how bad you'd feel if you were a Raptors fan about your team.


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  • Dont count on the bad coaching by Vinny.

    At the end of regulation, we knew they were gonna foul us. Why not pull out Derrick. He missed FT last night and has been dreadful tonite. Yet he puts him in and they say make em and beat us. He misses one and we go into OT.

    Also, does Vinny understand on a back to back players are tired. Did Derick get any rest. Why did Warrick sit all night. And JJ. And even Pargo. This makes no sense. Even worst than the SAC game imo. I thought he learned but he didnt and he never will.

  • I don't know what's the point of implementing the replay at the end of games if the referees can't make the right call. If they cannot call the right way watching the play in slow motion, how on earth are they supposed to call it in real time.
    Refs are human, I know, but these guys should try to find something else to do for a living...

  • Doug please.


    "Robin" Rose lost this game for the Bulls not the refs. Try watching the game once. It may help you write your blogs.

    The refs didn't blow an 11 point lead in regulation. The refs didn't blow a 7 point lead in the 1st OT. The refs didn't miss key FT's down the stretch. The refs didn't lose to the woeful Nets TWICE this year.

    You need to speak the truth and not make EXCUSES.

    This team lacks HEART, LEADERSHIP and TOUGHNESS...that's the bottom-line.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Don't worry, be Mr. Happy!.

  • In reply to supercesto:

    Right on.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Playoffs?, Did you say Playoff's??????

  • In reply to supercesto:

    Lottery? Did you say Lottery??????

    Oh that's right, John Paxson traded one of the Bulls best players, John Salmons, and switched 1st Round picks with the Milwaukee Bucks.


  • In reply to supercesto:

    The NBA refs calling fouls for certain players and teams while boycotting others like Derrick Rose is nothing less then corrupt. What pisses me off even more though is how lame Derrick is at arguing his case. Confront someone's ass, and draw a god damn technical or two(shit!)

    And Vinny. To have his star player absolutely grabbed, and just so ridiculously openly fouled, and we get no defense of Derrick, confronting the refs??

    Vinny you are a pussy and a coaching failure when it comes to sticking up for/being an advocate for your players. Loyalty is a two way street. I'll be glad when your ass is fired.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    Before you drive me insane, STOP BLAMING THE REFS!!!

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    17 turnovers in the last 3 games for Rose. People can point to his assists totals being good over that stretch too, but the fact is turnovers hurt more than assists help.

    I agree on Noah, got to have him out there. You play him and get the win and if he can't play the last 3 games you deal with it. But you have to take your best shot at getting the win that's in front of you.

    Add to the list of the ref's sins, I can't believe the refs wouldn't even look at it to see if it was goaltending at the end of regulation either. I mean it probably wasn't, but it's the game on the line there, at least take a look. It's games like this that make you think someone had money on it.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    Doug this is scary I am closer to agreeing with MR HAPPY than I am with you.

    While the Refs were not helpfull, the Bulls were screwed in this game and this season by the fact that they suck individually and collectively and they are coached by Bozo the Clown.

    I do agree with you that Noah should have been playing for Gibson. among the many other things that killed us was lack of any rebounding in the overtimes, specifically right before Rose did his Ben Gordon imitation in the first overtime(dribbling the ball off his leg). Had we gotten the previous rebound(which led to a 3, we would have won the game).

    Of course that could be said about a million other plays, like when Dung the Marshmellow man missed a point blank uncontested layup up the rim because he short armed it out of fear. If Dung makes that gimme, we win the game. Has the marshmellow ever made a shot that matters after halftime. Oh wait, the only ones that do matter happen after halftime.

    Finally, for those of you who don't believe that Rose is overated, consider this game the memo(I believe that is the smart ass phrase that this generatin prefers).

    I have been saying for the past year and a half that he is not an elite ballhandler. In fact he is an attrocious ballhandler for a point guard that we are trying to elevate into the top five of the league. An elite point guard has to be an elite ballhandler, it is practically the definition of the position. An elite point guard never does his best Ben Gordon ballhandling exhibition, especially in crunch time. Finally, an elite bsllhandler can never be stipped of the ball by one man guarding him, and usually not even two(see Michael Jordan).

    Add his defensive deficiencies which are nearly Ben Gordon like, and I doubt that Rose is ever even at Scottie Pippens level, never mind Jordans.

    We are way more than adding Chris Bosh from becoming a contender. In fact Bosh, character wise(Basketball character) is as weak as the rest of the Bulls crew, with the exception of Noah of course.

    We clearly have no business being in the playoffs, and the only way we get in is if Toronto loses every game, which would of course necessitate us winning one.

    Honestly, after tonight, and Milwaukee, and Miami, yada, yada, yada, I am not sure that I even care.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    "and I doubt that Rose is ever even at Scottie Pippens level, never mind Jordans."

    Did anyone in the world think that Rose would reach Scotties defensive level? Wow. The guy is one of the best defenders ever and just made the hall. I'd like Rose to play defense as well as Hinrich...that's a start.

  • In reply to Dileg:

    You missed my point.

    I am not even addressing his defense specifically visa vi Pippens defense, I am addressing his overall impact as a impact supposedly elite player.

    As I have said from the beginning I don't see him even becoming a Scottie to someone elses Michael.

    Obviously, Rose will have to exceed Scottie in every other phase of the game just to make up for his defensive deficiencies in order to be considered Scotties equal as an overall impact player.

    If he is not even Scottie, then what is the point of building your entire future around him.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Bulls ARE TERRIBLE....I cant even watch these guys anymore. The REFS played that play in SLOW motion and STILL didnt even give us the ball. Thats terrible right there. Vinny Del Negro is terrible as well.

    To back Rose up...the guy makes plays for everyone every single time down the floor....and WE MISS EVERY SINGLE JUMP SHOT WE TAKE. The guy is doing everything he can. Hinrich should be guarding the best guard every single night because he provides nothing on the offensive end most nights. Overall, Bulls should not of let that team any where close to us...oh and great now Bosh knows we just lost to the Nets. TWICE!!!!!!!

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    I said before that I wanted the Bulls to get into the playoffs but the more I think about the Bulls don't belong in the playoffs and the Raptors really don't belong in the playoffs. This is just ridiculous basket ball that's being displayed and I for one will be glad when this season for the Bulls comes to an end. All of the excuses, the losses, the lack of focus, the non existing leadership, the lack of urgency and heart, I could really keep going but what's the use cause its the same old results with this team and it is so very very tiring. I hope this off season is a little more entertaining then this season has been cause I am tired of the same old rerun with this Bulls team.

  • In reply to MarkNorman:

    Terrance Williams got some text msgs from some of the Raptors sayin "Thank You".....smh

  • In reply to supercesto:

    Rose sucked ass for the past 3 games. I am so disappointed in him.

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  • In reply to Newskoolbulls:

    Just so all the blame doesn't go on Vinny, Derrick, & the Refs... Some one did decide that in a crucial game that we wear the bad luck black jerseys. Just sayin'.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    The refs were horrible, but you know who was worse, the bulls free throws are called free for a reason, why these scrubs get paid millions of dollars to consistently miss FREE throws is beyond me. I thought the bulls were trying to lose last night, no if the bulls want to lose they will, thats their greatest strength, losing

  • Doug, you really should CHANGE your heading. It's not accurate.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Bah, take it easy...It is not worth and management is swimming in money...Reinsdorf is laughing right now...

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    This is only Rose second year, so he still have excuses for bad defense and free throws. But what about Marshmallow Deng and Brick Hinrich. They are the worst. They are losers and always will be. Both deserve a pay cut (to half of what they actually get). They are role players withn star money. I wish both were traded.

  • In reply to supercesto:

    so agree, i am tired of both Kirk and Luol.

  • In reply to supercesto:

    The Bulls seem to keep producing choices for "Worst Loss of the Season". Three games left to add to that selection ...

    I wonder what's worse: a) being a bad team or b) being stuck in the middle? At least there's some consistency and expectation with choice a).

  • In reply to supercesto:



    It's appropriate for VDN, the playoffs and every top free-agent.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    The teams needs a complete OVER-HAUL.

    - VDN and staff need to go.
    - Deng and Hinrich need to go.
    - "Robin" Rose should be traded for Evan Turner, if possible.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    out coached by Kiki lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

  • No way the Bulls win in Toronto with those fans cheering this waiting to be swept by the Cavz team. Those paid off refs took this game from the Bulls by not calling fouls on the Nets when they were suppose to. D-Rose deserves some of the blame for this loo as well for not making his free throw at the end of the game. This is very very frustrating and with a demoralizing loss like this one, don't look for the Bulls to win Sun. I really do hate the NBA cause everything is so predictable, people are over paid and only certain teams and players have a chance to win and win championships. I know that I am talking out of frustration but everything I just stated just so happens to be true. I know its all about the M O N E Y with this league but they really do need to take a step back and think... is the product that they give to the fans in most of these NBA cities is it really fair. I know most of us will say no but the NBA does not care as long as we keep buying into their product I am sure they will keep selling us the fans... THE BULL####. I hope the Bulls can get it done but I don't look for it.

  • In reply to Reese1:


    The refs didn't lose this game. The Bulls players and coaches did.



  • In reply to bullsman24:

    I don't type in ALL CAPS. Just sometimes for EMPHASIS.

    There is no BOLD, ITALIC or UNDERLINING on here.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    hahaha. JUST SOMETIMES... oi vey. understatement of the year!

  • Everybody is blaming Derrick but what about deng and his terrible defense he has gotten lit up all week by bums and nobody says anything this is the highest paid player on the team.....carlos delfino/jon salmons then it was jemario moon and jj hickson then last night terrance williams how do u get beat repeatedly with the same move? does rose deserve some blame yes but lets spread it around...

  • the guy playe 46 minutes down the stretch. the flight was late and it was the second night of a back to back.

    he isn't superhuman/lebron james.

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