Brad Miller's choices narrowed down to Houston or Chicago


I always find it interesting when I hear stuff like this, because I have a hard time believing it won't ultimately come down to money, but here we go.

According to sources close to me, Brad Miller is deciding between Houston and Chicago to extend his career.

He expects to get a multi-year contract at above the vet minimum, and his decision will depend on whether or not the Rockets extend Rick Adelman.  If Adelman is extended, so he's guaranteed to play with him for both of his seasons then his favorite is Houston.

If Adelman is not extended then Chicago is the front runner.   This is what I hear about what Brad wants and expects.   We'll have to see whether both teams reciprocate that interest.
Do we want Brad Miller on a multi-year contract?   I like Brad Miller as much as the next guy, but if we get a front court piece as our major free agent then there's not much room left to sign guys.   That room shouldn't be spent on Brad Miller.

If we sign a guard in free agency as our major piece, then we need to find the best front court piece left.  Is that Brad Miller?   It might be, but it also might not be.   If Miller was willing to sign for the minimum then I'd be all over that.

However, on a multi-year deal above the minimum it really depends on how much above we have to go.   I'm guessing Miller is something the Bulls look at after they've made their major decisions and attempt to get him back if there is money leftover.   That's how I'd approach it anyway.  

If Houston strikes faster, and they can, since they're not in the major FA market, then Brad may be gone before we get a chance to pursue him.


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  • How bad do the Chicago Bulls want Brad Miller back? I'm not sure.

    Isn't Omer Asik coming to Chi-town? Plus, Brad Miller disappeared in this playoff series vs. the Cavs. That can't leave a good taste in John Paxson's mouth.

  • Also, I'm guessing Rob Kurz gets an invite to their Summer League roster.

  • Who is Omer Asik I keep hearing about? I could see Miller in Houston with Adelman because they worked good together in Sacramento and the Rockets need size, with Yao they have it but the guy is very injury prone and he is hopefully coming back from a major foot problem. That team has heart and has done good and almost squeezed into the playoffs in the tough West without Yao & McGrady who both were All-Star players in their day but both very injury prone and hurt the Rockets. Like you say Doug, if Miller is around and we can get him pretty cheap, he is a 7 ft that can shoot, pass, and knows what to do to be effective eventhough he never was very athletic and his aging body is catching up to him he has a high basketball IQ & has helped Noah develop. I could see him being the Hunter asst type for the big guys on the bench! ;-)

  • In reply to smiley:

    Omer Asik #24:

    Let the COUNTDOWN begin.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I'd prefer Brad Miller at the minimum any day.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    i want brad to be here, not necessairly for his playing ability but he really seems like a great locker room guy and he's really rubbed off on noah. even if he goes to houston, when he retires i want him back in a lindsey hunter-like role.

  • In reply to smiley:

    I like Brad. He's done a lot for this team and the fans especially in last season's late push and the series against Boston. When you never make it out of the first round, but yet you remember a guy fondly, that's saying something.

    What's kept Brad's career vibrant is that he has an outside shot to match his rumbling, stumbling drives to the hoop. So many bigs don't have that reliable outside touch, and Brad was good for threes in big situation(Boston series).

    But IMO Brad's done. Players never want to face it. Shooting 37% in these playoffs. His rebounding numbers and field goal percentages fell off the table this year, and he's what 34 years old?? What a shock!

    It is definitely time to move on unless he wants to sign for the minimum which I'm sure he does not. But a great guy to have on your team, to root for, great for Joakim, and now it's time to move on. Good luck Brad. One of the real, likable personalities I've ever seen on the Bulls. Reminds me a bit of Wennington(though for the anal retentive amongst us I'm not comparing their styles of play just big, tough, likable/amiable off the court guys/old school). Wish he could stay with the orginization in some capacity as Bill has done with the Swirsk.

  • In reply to smiley:

    Wasn't Rick Adelman extended already? If not, that is the guy we need to hire.

    As far as Brad, we will have 3-4 mill after a max deal, if we can't get a respectable sg, I'd give brad a 2yr/4-5mill deal. Its fair for a backup of his caliber.

  • In reply to TheStig:

    Adelman is signed through next season, but that's it:

  • In reply to TheStig:

    It's been awhile, so how about another wonderful TRADE IDEA.

    To Bulls: Jeff Foster and Solomon Jones
    To Pacers: Kirk Hinrich

    The Indiana Pacers seem to be in need of a solid PG, while the Bulls would save $2-3 million dollars more for free-agency. Plus, if they do lose Brad Miller, Jeff Foster could back up Joakim Noah.

    Not too mention, Kirk Hinrich would probably start for the Pacers.

    Is that a win-win for both teams?

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I wouldn't touch jeff foster until he proves he can come back and play post surgery. Also he provides 0 offense. If we can keep miller I would take him over foster in a heart beat.

    I mean I am not exactly a hinrich lover, but I think that the drop off in talent would just not be worth it.

  • In reply to Daniel7123:

    Which teams would want or could use Kirk Hinrich?

    - Lakers (for lesser contracts?)
    - Memphis (for a late 1st Round Pick?)
    - Toronto (in a sign-and-trade of CB4?)
    - Indiana (for lesser contracts?)
    - Miami (in a sign-and-trade for DWADE?)
    - Denver (in a sign-and-trade for MELO in 2011?)

    What odds do you give any of those from happening?

    In my opinion, not very high.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    How about the 76ers

    something like Hinrich+#17 for Kapono+#6

    Kapono brings the 3pt specialist who given consistant minutes could help space the floor, but he doesn't do much else

    the 76ers need someone who can actually run the point

    I think it is pretty solid for both sides, if after the lottery they drop down a pick or two it is probably even closer

    Hopefully the bulls would be able to then pick up Greg Monroe to back up either the pf or c positions

  • In reply to Daniel7123:

    correctino: that doesn't work cap wise so the 76ers would also need to through in meeks as filler

  • In reply to Daniel7123:


  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Doug, no decision on Vinny until the weekend? Does this mean there's a chance that he's sticking around?

    I figured it was a foregone conclusion after the Pax dustup (and all the incessant rumors) that he was gone, and figured he'd be fired the day after the season ended for them.

    Should we read into the fact they're waiting until the weekend?

    Personally... I hope he stays. Noah, Rose, Taj - these guys have developed nicely under VDN.

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    VDN is HISTORY!!!

  • In reply to KenyattaWright:

    Add Indiana and Sacramento to the list. Both places make some sense.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Miller has been a positive influence, and I agree with Doug that I'd be happy to keep him, as long as he fits after the dust settles. What's the point of maneuvering for more cap room to spend it on Brad Miller, though? You can get a lot more out of 4-5 mil/per. I fear that management might do just that given that it's a fiscally safer way to spend money--it goes away in two years as opposed to five or six.

    When push comes to shove, however, you can obtain other players to fill that role, probably for cheaper. Sign Bosh. Sign a shooter (Morrow/Miller/Allen, etc.). Replace Brad on a minimum deal or in a Hinrich trade.

  • In reply to smiley:

    Omer Asik is going to give the bulls another defensive presence, and Brad can be the quick offense, if he comes cheap, I think he wants to stay here, but if he sees those dollar signs the bulls may lose him while they're trying to get the rest of their roster together.

  • In reply to Snypershawn:

    I think I just saw a serious response that put 'Brad [Miller]' and 'quick' in the same sentence.

  • In reply to Snypershawn:

    I love Brad and enjoyed his time here however i am not willing to see us shell out anythng above 2 mil per for 2 yrs. He just lost so much that he doesnt contribute till the second half of the season and come playoffs he is dead tired lol.

  • In reply to Snypershawn:

    I hope Asik is the biggest bust to ever wear a Bulls uniform because of this hardcore Asik homer on RealGM Magilla Gorilla. I dont know if he is joking around or not but still. Asik is horrible, he has very little post moves, doesnt rebound well for a 7ft, doesnt block shots, never healthy, makes JN look like Shaq. Dont count on him guys, just some bulls fans trying to act like Knicks fans when they sign some scrub from the DL and than say he could be part of the future.

  • In reply to Snypershawn:

    The Bulls will not have the cap space left over to bring in Asik and retain Miller, assuming of course that they bag a major FA.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    Asik will not make a difference.

  • In reply to BigWay:

    I actually watched some clips of Asik...he reminds me of a taller Tyler Hansbrough. He actually gets a lot of blocks in europe. Thats what he is pretty much known for. Can he make a immedaite impact next year? Personally i dont think so...he looks to skinny but i could be wrong. Us Bulls Fans need to be realistic about best he is probably a solid rotation player but thats it.

    Keep Brad Miller here. Theres better hunting in Illinois then in New York or Houston lol Stay here Brad!

  • In reply to Snypershawn:

    Brad is gone cause I am sure that the Bulls management will drag their feet like they always do and Houston will make him an offer that the Bulls wont. Unfortunately this is the first step on losing out on players this summer. Yes Brad is old, but he has been a lot of help to the team as far as contributing in some big games and helping the young guys develop. This is the Bulls M.O., they have players that help out the team and then they let them get away. This is why management needs to act as soon as July 1st hits at 12:00am and get the process started to bring in free agents and keep the players that they need to keep. One way of knowing if the Bulls are serious about turning things around is if they let too many days go by without getting anything done then everyone should know that they are not going to do anything but bring in journeyman players as their big free agents. Same as the year 2000 free agency when the Bulls signed Ron Mercer. The way that things are sounding with this story it does not look like a very good start. SAME OLD BULLS S##T STORY, SAME OLD BULLS S##T MANAGEMENT

  • In reply to Snypershawn:

    1. We shouldn't worry about Brad Miller, Asik and other role players. 2. The Bulls need to focus on getting a good coach
    3. Sign Bosh or Wade first. Then worry about doing a Sign and Trade for the other one.
    4. Fill up the role players based on Sign and Trade transactions. Noah/Rose/Deng can step up and be leaders now. Miller at his age now is same as Bill Wennington, Luc Longley types. You can find them much more easily
    5. Develop or evaluate who amongst the back bench guys such Joe Alexander, Acie Law, Rob Kurz or similar players from other teams can be a part of the future.

  • In reply to schaumburgfan:

    I don't think you can sign bosh and wade for max contracts, assuming they were willing (and Bulls could do a S&T).

    Two max contracts to those two guys would take more than half your salary cap. What would that mean for Rose and Noah when they come due?

    I'm not a salary cap expert, and may be wrong. But I don't think it would work long-term under a salary cap structure.

  • In reply to smiley:

    he's poor mans Marcin Gortat.
    btw Gortat would fit greately to Bulls frontcourt, allowing Noah to move to PF. With them under the basket i don't see Lebron or anyone else attempting so many drives to the hoop.

  • brad on a multiyear deal? Well how much worse can he be than lindsey hunter?

    I guess it all depends on how much he wants. Chris Bosh isn't really a big body, noah isn't a "true center", and a lot of the other guys on the market don't give us Brad's body(really he's just a skilled big man whose got the athleticism of a glacier.) If we're talking something around what grey got, why not? If we're talking something significantly more, let adleman have him. let's get a young prospect in the draft.

  • I like Brad but only on the cheap for sure...

  • If we can get him at the veteran's minimum, management is stupid for not locking him up for two to three years. His game should not fall much further off the cliff (excluding injury). Miller also gives this team some sorely lacking toughness, as well as a big body (always a necessity). His shooting, albeit not great, certainly spaces the floor much better than either Noah or Taj. Plus, Miller seems to be able to get to the free throw more consistently than any player on the roster. That is a scary notion.

  • Exactly, big fa and sg are more pressing needs. It really depends on who we draft because if we get a pf in fa and a c in the draft, we aren't bringing back miller.

  • In reply to TheStig:

    Also I meant miller for 4-5 mill total. I don't think anyone is gonna offer close to the mle unless its a contender desperately needing a back up C.

  • In reply to TheStig:

    No word on Vinny till the week is just the Bulls brass way of burying the story over the weekend, particularly with a Hawks playoff series starting...

    He's gone...they just didnt want to drop the news mid week..Look for a late Friday announcement...

  • In reply to TheStig:

    that should read "Till the weekEND"

  • In reply to TheStig:

    I just looked Asik up on Wikipedia and it says of him: strong & athletic 7 ft Turkish center! :-)

  • In reply to TheStig:

    wikipedia? really Troy?

  • In reply to TheStig:

    Come on don't wish bad for the Bulls, they had enough bad luck since the Jordan days! We have dealt pics with Portland before as well. Tyrus Thomas for Aldridge. Wish we had that 1 back (LA). Since our GMs are such buddies we should see if we can get Pryzbilla, or maybe Camby. Kinda of "hard" to say if Oden's basketball will be as famous as his cell phone pic to his girlfriend. ;-)

  • There will be no shortage of suitors for Miller. While he won't be the first guy that anyone pursues, the fact that the Bulls would have to sign him after they are done with all their other moves makes it likely that he will already have signed elsewhere by the time the Bulls figure out what they can or want to do with him.

    We are going to miss him as a quality big man off the bench more than any of us know right now.

    Given our injury problems this year it is not too far fetched to suggest that we would not have squeaked into the playoffs this season without him.

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