Bulls still trying to move Hinrich

Per Mike McGraw:

The Bulls are still intent on trading Kirk Hinrich and opening even
more cap room for the summer. That's their top priority in the final
hours before the deadline.

McGraw goes on to speculate on the Kings possibly dealing with the Bulls or Knicks and moving McGrady on to one of those teams.   With the Kings dumping Martin's salary they may be willing to take some salary back that extends into the next season, but unless they wanted Hinrich anyway it makes little sense for them to trade with the Bulls rather than the Knicks.

A three way trade with the Knicks, Bulls, and Kings might make sense, but it likely wouldn't involve Kirk anymore.

McGrady -> Knicks
Harrington -> Bulls
Jeffries, Tyrus, Jordan Hill, Jerome James (possible Knicks picks) -> Kings

The Kings would get a prospect in Hill to develop, another potential guy in Tyrus, maybe a draft pick, and just take on Jeffries one year of additional salary.

If the Kings are interested in Hinrich then the Bulls have options that could make that work, but it seems like a stretch to hope for that to me.

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  • I think the Bulls should try to move Luol Deng instead.

    Here's why.

    The Bulls have $20 million dollars to spend in free agency. What if they used that money on DWADE to play SG and his two best friends, Q.Richardson and D. Wright to play SF? That's a good plan.

    Now, let's assume they DUMP Deng for expiring contracts. They could take his $10 or $11 million dollar salary and offer it up to David Lee, who is good friends with Joakim Noah.

    Doesn't that make some sense?

    PG - Rose
    SG - Wade
    SF - Q. Richardson/D.Wright
    PF - Lee
    C - Noah

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    If Deng leads to Bosh, I'm in. I'm not sure David Lee is that much better than Deng, or that he's that great of a fit with Noah. I certainly don't dump Deng for a crack at a player marginally more valuable than he is. When you place in Q-Rich/Wright, I really balk. How are Lee/Q better than Deng/Taj, yet alone Deng plus marginal vet 4 we can pick up on cheap deals?

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    The Bulls have TRIED to unload Deng. Reports have him offered in a trade for Al Jefferson (officially declined) & offered in a trade for Bosh (see other article).

    No one wants him due to future salary - and that is same problem with Kirk.

    It's easy for fans to say "trade that guy" but what makes you think other teams will be willing to take your overpaid players off your hands?

  • In reply to bulls6:

    That's not true. Minnesota has interest, but they don't want to give up Al Jefferson, until the summer.

    The T-Wolves want to upgrade their Small Forward position. That is why names like Rudy Gay and Luol Deng have been mentioned.

    If I'm John Paxson, I'm offering up Deng and CASH to the T-Wolves for expiring contracts (Darko and Wilkins).

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Thats stupid Im sorry. Werent you the guys who was complaining yesterday after the salmons deal cuz it was "gonna knock us out of the playoffs"?
    I think you hold onto deng unless you can package him for bosh... where you can use him as leverage for something OR possibly to get Jefferson if the bulls fail to land Bosh or if they sign wade.

    Deng is a quality player and hes one of the few players we have with actual trade value there is no way Im giving him up for just expirings.

  • In reply to Fumbles:

    edit=> Im talking about this summer when I say you can use him as leverage.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    If they have enough for a max deal then there's no point in sending Deng for nothing but expirings, especially when you could theoretically trade him for nothing but expirings at a later time. You're not going to get two max free agents anyway.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I'm looking at from a financial and do-able standpoint.

    Wade is friends with Q.Rich and D. Wright. If bringing in those two guys helps DWADE come to the Bulls, I'M ALL IN.

    I doubt the Bulls can afford Wade and Bosh, but the could afford Wade and Lee, if they DUMP Deng's $10 or $11 million dollar salary.

    Having three All-Stars in the Bulls lineup works for me.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    yes...because just dumping his salary will be oh so easy to do.

  • In reply to joebe:

    Minnesota is talking about going after Rudy Gay. It sounds like MONEY isn't the issue for Mr. Kahn.

    I doubt Memphis lets Rudy Gay go, especially given how well they are playing. Luol Deng is a good second option for Minnesota.

  • In reply to joebe:

    Minnesota's Lineup with Luol Deng:

    PG - Flynn/Sessions
    SG - Brewer/Ellington
    SF - Deng/Gomes
    PF - Love
    C - Jefferson

    That would be a solid 8-Man Rotation for them.

  • In reply to joebe:

    To Bulls: Darko Milicic and Damien Wilkins
    To T-Wolves: Luol Deng

    That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Luol Deng is a good player having a good year. He may never be worth his contract, but he's 18 and 8 pretty much every night, and has worked hard to fit his game around Rose.

    Why would we trade him for garbage, with only the mere hope of using his money to sign a comparable player in David Lee? Please believe that Lee's numbers are inflated by playing in a D'Antoni system too, so I'm not even confident he's that much better than Deng.

  • In reply to DanFrystak:

    I completely agree. Thank God, or buddah or flying spaghetti monster or whatever the hell you believe in that MrHappy is not the bulls gm cuz we would be worse than the nets with that guy running the show.

    What are you gonna do after the trade deadline passes and you have no more dumb trade ideas to talk about Mr. Happy? Hibernate until the summer comes?

  • In reply to DanFrystak:

    David Lee is comparable to Deng. Deng is a better scorer, Lee a better rebounder. Deng is also much better defensively. And I'd argue that if Deng was in D'Antoni's system, Deng might be an all-star this year too. Don't get me wrong, I like Lee. But is he a big upgrade over Deng? Is it worth it to ship out Deng for nothing and pray we get Lee to replace him? The Bulls already have the money for Wade.

    What's wrong with DRose, DWade, Deng as your core? It is probably equally effective as Rose, Wade, Deng...plus you dont have the risk involved with competing to sign 2 guys.

    I'm not sure you understand that just because we have the money to offer, doesn't mean players must come to the Bulls.

  • In reply to DanFrystak:

    please believe in pace adjusted stats so you dont even need to worry about "systems." and by the way, lee was good with isiah thomas as coach too.

  • In reply to DanFrystak:

    No one with a brain will trade for Klank off the rim Hinrich, the clock eating circle dribbling career inconsistent streak shooter becuse he is extremely over paid and grossly over rated.

  • In reply to Alex:

    I think....THINK I've heard this speech before..

  • In reply to joebe:

    lmao

  • In reply to joebe:

    So, you would rather have Luol Deng over two All-Stars? Now, that's DUMB!!!

    The Bulls are in Minnesota, as we speak. They should get that trade done.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Luol Deng will not be the difference between zero and two all-stars.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Has anyone seen K.C. Johnson's piece this morning?? If what he reports is true, the Bulls will be much better off with either Hakim Warrick instead of bodies Thomas and Elston, possibly moving Kirk's contract, and to me great acquisition if indeed they get Al Harrington. I hope K.C. is right on what he is reporting.

  • In reply to joebe:

    Give me DROSE, DWADE and DLEE on the Bulls come July.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Minnesota wants to upgrade at Small Forward.

    I think this could work.

    To Bulls: Darko Milicic and Damien Wilkins
    To T-Wolves: Luol Deng

    * Give Luol Deng's $10 or $11 million to David Lee.

    Keep in mind the Bulls just acquired two guys (Warrick and Alexander) who can also play SF, so Deng is more expendable.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    im assuming the bulls do this trade because they feel sorry for all the negative publicity david kahn has received and want to make him look brilliant for once.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Ok why are the bulls trying to throw away the season?!!! They got two expiring contracts for one player DAMMM!!! They just need to just keep the team that they have now and make a run at the playoffs. And getting rid of Tyrus for AL Harington is a dumb move especially if they have Warrick which has not been confirmed yet.Tyrus is a much better and younger player than Harington he is a gunner that only cares about his points. Why do you think he keeps getting traded. Tyrus does help so why not keep him til the end of the season or if the bulls are getting something good in return then ok but I say dont let Tyrus go for nothing which is what Al Harington is. Plus if the bulls are not going to bring back Vinny then I say wait and see what the next coach can get out of him. Tyrus if given the right situation is going to a very good player and I would rather see that happen in chicago then with the sorry azz Knicks. Bulls management dont be stupid cause we have a chance at getting Bosh or Stoudemire after the season all depends who Miami goes after.

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