Bulls fall to Thunder due to dismal third quarter

The trend of the Bulls having quarters where they just can't do anything whatsoever re-emerged last night, as the Bulls just completely fell apart on both ends in the 3rd quarter.   Vinny Del Negro had the audacity to discuss how they settled for jump shots. 
According to the ESPN play by play, the Bulls were 3-14 on jumpers in the 3rd quarter and 4 for 20 on inside shots [assuming I added them up correctly quickly].   Now the inside shots had a lot of misses on tips or offensive rebounds, but all of the makes were from tips and offensive rebounds.

The Bulls were 0-8 on actual layup/inside attempts that weren't coming off of rebounds in the quarter.   So please, let's not talk about how the team settled for jumpers when it actually shot quite a few inside shots and was terrible when it took them.

Let's also not talk about effort in this one.   The Bulls had 12 offensive rebounds/tip tries in the quarter showing that they were really attempting to hit things hard.

Compare that to OKC who had 11 points on layups and free throws combined and 21 points on jump shots.   So it's not like the Bulls were giving up a layup drill and dunk fest on the other end either.    The Thunder just hit shots.

Sometimes that's the way it goes, and that's the way it went for the Bulls in the defining quarter of the game.   What can the Bulls do to stop slides like this?   Nothing.   The Bulls attacked the basket and forced OKC into shooting jumpers.   They attacked the offensive glass and only gave up four second chance points on the other end.  

Sometimes you just can't hit shots even when you're doing things right, and the Bulls had a lot of that going on.  They had good opportunities, they had good looks, they played hard.   They lost. 


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  • Caron Butler Anyone?!? (i don't care what Sam Smith said-_-)

  • In reply to joeacook3:

    They don't need any more AVERAGE or UNDER-ACHIEVING role players, like Caron Butler. They need SUPERSTARS, like Dwyane Wade or Chris Bosh!!!

  • In reply to joeacook3:

    We need to trade Deng for Caron, then when his contract is up, go after Carmelo next summer. Rose, Bosh, Melo, Noah= next dynasty of the Decade

  • That was an EMBARRASSMENT last night, top to bottom!!!

    When the Chicago Bulls have an opportunity to move within 2 games of the 5th seed in the Eastern Conference, but instead they decide to LAY AN EGG at home against a fellow MEDIOCRE OKC Thunder team, they should be EMBARRASSED and ASHAMED!!!

    If VDN can't MOTIVATE or PREPARE his team, then maybe he should go coach a JUNIOR COLLEGE TEAM.

    I'll say the same for Bulls' fans, who are content with this Chicago Bulls' team being MEDIOCRE and UNINSPIRING. If you want to except LOSING and MEDIOCRITY and be NAIVE about certain players POTENTIAL on this team (James Johnson and Tyrus Thomas), then go cheer on a JUNIOR COLLEGE TEAM instead!!!

    That was an absolutely EMBARRASSING performance last night!!!

  • Doug, what do you think about the rumor that the Bulls inquired about Kevin Martin for Deng? Yesterday I listened to the Ryen Russillo podcast (espn.go.com/espnradio/player?id=4776256) from 12/28 and think it's pretty interesting idea from our perspective. Of course, the Kings would want to see how Martin and Tyreke play together, but it seems to me that Martin would definitely be the type of SG that we need. Deng would become the Kings best SF even though they have a few bodies their already but it opens us up to move Salmons back to his natural position and give more time at the position to Tyrus and James Johnson who both claim that they're really SFs. One of them would have to prove it for us to be straight at the position next year.

    With all of that said, would we still have a chance at landing a premium FA in the summer? Obviously concentrating on the PF/C position now (Bosh, Boozer, Stoudemire).

  • "They had good opportunities, they had good looks, they played hard. They lost."

    let me add to that....They came, they saw, they got conquered

  • It's called free-agency. The Bulls' management decided to let BG7 walk for nothing, so they need to deliver a top free-agent. I'm guessing they want Dwyane Wade.

    If they can't deliver Dwyane Wade, then John Paxson and Gar Forman need to be FIRED, along with VDN, who would be better suited coaching HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALL or possibly JUNIOR COLLEGE KIDS.

  • That's not accept MEDIOCRITY and LOSING. That loss last night was an EMBARRASSMENT!!!

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Excuse me.

    Let's not except MEDIOCRITY and LOSING. That loss last night was a flat-out EMBARRASSMENT, top to bottom!!!

  • Being MEDIOCRE or possibly below MEDIOCRE sucks!!!

    I think it's time John Paxson grows some BALLS and draws a line in the sand. He needs to tell VDN to win his next 4 games and get to .500 or else get FIRED!!!

    @ Charlotte...Win-able.
    @ Milwaukee...Win-able.
    vs. Minnesota...Win-able.
    vs. Detroit...Win-able.

    This team needs to show some HEART and start playing with a SENSE OF PURPOSE from the jump to the buzzer. And VDN needs to coach his ASS off...PERIOD!!!

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Oh and by the way Doug, OKC is not a VERY GOOD TEAM. They are MEDIOCRE and barely in the 8th spot in the Western Conference.

    The Lakers are VERY GOOD. The Celtics are VERY GOOD. The Magic are VERY GOOD. The Hawks are VERY GOOD. The Cavs are VERY GOOD.

    OKC is not VERY GOOD. They are MEDIOCRE at best.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    The VERY GOOD Atl Hawks are 2.5 games ahead of the MEDIOCRE OKC Thunder. It's a fine line I suppose, thanks for showing us the way. That's brilliant. Dude...Xanax...it will help you.

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    In reply to MrHappy:

    I don't buy this business about OKC being a good team either - not after the overtime crapfest they played in milwaukee last weekend. The Bulls actually lost this thing in the 2nd q when they could've put these bums away but just kept letting them hang around instead.


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    In reply to MrHappy:

    That deal for Martin is intriguing but how many times can we go to the well in Sacramento?

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    OKC has a better defense allowing fewer ppg then the Bulls, and they have basically a 30 ppg scorer in Durant(at least for extended periods). They are no one to take lightly. That said, when Derrick plays like an all-star and some other guys contribute we are not a team to take lightly either. But as we saw last night that's not always the case.

    Say what you want about the refs, who I think rely to much on rep(utation of players) and are often way too biased, but it's hard not to be a little bit swayed when someone is playing passively. Derrick for a good and critical portion of that game just stood at the top of the key dribbling the ball and passing it off not attacking or making anything happen. I'm not saying he was like this the whole game. But for too big a portion he was. And that passiveness will not help you when you finally do decide to penetrate when it comes to the refs calling something.

    Vinny should have brought out more bigs moving/running to spots as screens for Derrick(the way other teams run their screens not the antiquated stand sideways and wait to intercept someone as the Bulls lamely do). This also would have opened up the middle. And when Salmons, who had been playing much better along with Rose, needs his momentum kept in the right direction, you don't watch him settle for a jumper on a baseline on on ones when that's supposed to be his game driving one on one. Vinny should have jumped all over that, and created the same iso with Salmons driving or hitting the close/mid range jumper only if the guy sags off totally back to the paint.

    It's one thing to lose close games. But it's something else to drop into these free fall abysses we do, and then have whole quarter and half failures and just blame it on the players. Vinny's "play calling" and leadership/interactions are an utter failure. If not for Bob O's. and Pete's defensive coaching which if not for the horrid offnsive play calling taking all the pressure off of other teams and the transition opps said horrid offense provides, otherwise the D has been solid to good most of the season. It's Vinny's offensive cluelessness and lack of leadership that's a big part of the problem. He talks about player development, but I don't see any corrections to players games gone awry and away fromt their strengths on the court.

    And Tyrus Thomas. Have you ever seen more traveling, offensive foul, ball stolen, blocked shots around the rim horrid offensive game from somone who's supposed to be a starter in your life? He is averaging for his career, 7.5 ppg and 5 rebounds! Wake up. Trampoline legs and a top 4 pediogree do not a player make. He has no offensive game. His low basketball I.Q. and immature, unaware demeanor make him more of a hindrance to winning with his inconsistencey then a help.

    Finally, Joakim is one step away from becoming a top tier center in either conference. As it stands, unless you have a big 7 footer with post skills to get him off balance, he's terrific even providing a little post action. Hopefully by next year he can find a way to build some weight on his legs and hips so he doesn't get rooted out anymore, then he'd be a true stud center for the Bulls.

    Derrick, Taj, Noah, and who knows about JJ, but you do have some talent going forward with a real offensive coach, and Derrick getting help with better plays, defined player roles, and hopefully another star player. Just for the love of god don't resign Tyrus. People who still like a 7.8 ppg 5 rebound guy after four years just don't get it.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Hey doug did you change your email address? i am having a tuff time emailing you.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    i dont see why everyone seeing Kevin Martin being traded, unless it is with some package for a super star.
    As far as i can see when martin is healthy they have a much more complete roster, he fits a great need next to a poor shooting (at this point) tyreke evans.


    thats an above average player at every position sans maybe center

    and with Casspi Greene and Rodriguez coming off the bench they have a lot of nice pieces. If anything I could see them packaging some pieces to maybe get a star themselves in the near future, I see no reason why they would be sellers, they need no more young pieces or flexibility.

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    In reply to Jdog1021:

    Actually the more I look at it the better it gets. The whole thing hinges on the possibility that evans and martin may be competing for the sg position. If it works out that way - and i'm really stretching the imagination here - I think he can be had for deal including Tyrus.

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