Bulls fall to Bucks on missed Deng 3

Well, Michael Redd choked on the FTs, but Luol Deng couldn't knock down the open three to tie the game, and the Bulls fall to the Bucks.  The Bulls recovered from an abysmal start to retake the lead in the third quarter when Milwaukee completely fell apart taking bad shot after bad shot after bad shot.

In the end, the Bulls will feel the hurt when looking at all of the missed opportunities at the free throw line.  Kirk Hinrich, Luol Deng, and John Salmons all shot 50% from the line to combine for a 8 of 16 performance.   That's from three guys you expect to each shoot around 80%.   If they hit their free throws, the Bulls win this game.

Oh yeah, that half court Ridnour 3 hurts now too doesn't it?

Derrick Rose had his moments in the game, moments of great aggression and talent, but he also had moments where he couldn't buy a bucket.   In the end, he shot 10-25 from the field using 28 possessions to get his points. 

Andrew Bogut appeared to dominate Noah at times, but he also used a ton of shots to get his points.  Noah didn't play down the stretch as the Bulls opted to go with Brad Miller instead.   Miller played respectably and even hit a three that kept the Bulls in the game.

All in all, it was a pedestrian night for almost everyone else.  Rose dominated the ball all night long as no one else on the team had more than 10 shots.   It was a game where I felt the Bulls played better than the Bucks overall, but they didn't get it done [due to the FTs], and they earn another loss to a mediocre team.

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  • THIS IS BS!!!

    This team drives me CRAZY. Why do they keep PISSING AWAY win-able games? CHANGES NEEDS TO BE MADE...from the TOP on DOWN!!!

    James Johnson and Tyrus Thomas absolutely SUCK!!!

  • doug you are the hardest man to reach lately lol. As for the game egh what can you do. This team is never going to see 500 and we are headed to the lottery. Deng and Kirk absolutely cant buy a shot right now and Tyrus has stunk for the 3rd straight game and the honeymoon is over. Rose had the uggliest 25 and 9 you will ever see.

  • Did anybody else see IMMATURE IDIOT Tyrus Thomas make a steal with about 9 minutes to go in the game and the Bulls up 7 and then make a COMPLETE FOOL OF HIMSELF?

    Instead of passing the ball ahead to Derrick Rose for a break away dunk, he STUPIDLY and SELFISHLY decided to keep it and then go in for a SHOW-OFF dunk of his own after the whistle had already blown from a foul.

    His DUMB ASS should have been TOSSED from the game. If I'm John Paxson and/or Gar Forman, I'm trading this IMMATURE IDIOT ASAP!!!

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Furthermore, FAT ASS James Johnson needs to be gone to.

    He flat out SUCKS as a basketball player. Tell you what Doug, next time you see his FAT ASS at the mall, go buy him a skirt, so he can tryout for the LUV-A-BULLS.

    Afterall, he's better at CHEERLEADING, then playing ball.

  • Wake up.

    The Bulls SUCK right now, especially Tyrus Thomas, James Johnson and Vinny Del Negro. All three of those guys NEED TO GO...ASAP!!!

  • NY is fun to watch and they have nice peices in Lee, Chandler, and Gallinari.

  • everyone outside Rose/Noah/Taj should be dealt. However its not easy with everyone gearing up for 2010.

  • I would buy-out Tyrus Thomas and James Johnson. They SUCK as basketball players. If I couldn't buy them out, I would send them to the D-League, so they could learn how to be PROFESSIONAL and play the game of PRO basketball.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Happy I'm guessing you grew up with watch Van Lier and Sloan

  • In reply to Dpauley23:

    No actually, I grew up in the Jordan Era.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    you cant send Ty to the d-league, too many years in the league.

  • In reply to Newskoolbulls:

    Then they should TRADE him or buy him out.

  • In reply to Newskoolbulls:

    *sigh* if only we had Coby Karl....

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Sure BG would make that 3 but i wouldnt trust anyone on this current bulls team to make it.

  • In reply to Newskoolbulls:

    It never should have come down to that.

    21-31 from the FT-line and a bad 1st quarter (outscored 29-19) helped decide the outcome.

  • In reply to Newskoolbulls:

    It's one thing to lose to the top teams in the league, but it's another thing to lose to subpar teams on a regular basis.

    CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE!!! This team is an EMBARRASSMENT.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    MrHappy, what are you talking about? Bulls are the subpar team...My prediction of 31 wins may need to be reevaluated...Maybe 28?

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I have a new and appropriate nickname for Andrew Bogut. It's "The MATADOR". Afterall, he just kills the Bulls.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Mr. Happy what about Deng, Hinrich and Salmons all who suck way more than Tyrus and James Johnson. We don't expect much out of those guys but Deng and Hinrich are supposed to be solid contributors.

    Hinrich kept throwing the ball away, missing everything, he was the guy who just fell down and let Ridnour get the ball to take the half court shot!

    Hinrich and Deng have not done one thing good this entire year, they are the reason for the Bulls sucking, not Tyrus c'mon Happy pick on someone who matters!

  • In reply to Hendu0520:

    Deng is averaging 18 and 8, so he's clearly not the problem. And Hinrich and Salmons are playing better now that they have switched roles.

    Tyrus Thomas is IMMATURE and James Johnson is INEFFECTIVE. Those two need to be traded away.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Besides that who were you gonna replace Tyrus with: Gibson? he didn't do anything besides that monster dunk and constantly got out rebounded.

    The play you are so mad about with Tyrus didn't even effect the game, we got the foul called, that had little to do with the Bulls losing. Someone is a Tyrus hater! Why cause he's athletic and exciting?

  • In reply to Hendu0520:

    It's called being MATURE and a PROFESSIONAL. Thomas is athletic and can be exciting, but he is also UNPROFESSIONAL and INCONSISTENT. It's no wonder they Bulls aren't looking to extend his contract. I'm hoping he is traded, sooner than later.

    Give me Camby, Bosh, Boozer or whoever for that CLOWN.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Great comment on Noah Sammy! Noah is not an all star yet and still gets horsed by true Centers

  • In reply to Hendu0520:

    Number of true center left in the NBA? fingers on one hand, or does the number spill over onto the second.

    While I like boguts offensive game, he is an indifferent in not lousy defender, and if scored all those points on Noah, then he must have given up all those rebounds to Noah.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I'd wouldn't mind this trade either.

    To Bulls: Marcus Camby and Rasual Butler
    To Clippers: Tyrus Thomas, James Johnson and Jerome James

    http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5372167

    Camby and Butler's MATURITY, alone, would elevate this team's play.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I have seen enough of Thomas to dump him. However, we really haven't seen anything of James Johnson yet. so I would not dump him yet, especially in the same deal as Thomas.

    I would like to move thomas and give Johnson his playing time.

  • In reply to Newskoolbulls:

    Lets not forget that the halfcourt 3 by Ridnour at the end of the half or was it the third was immediately preceeded by an assinine turnover by Hinrich who tripped over himself or maybe it was the ghost of Ben Gordon with 3 seconds left.

    This team is nothing more than a bunch of clowns, with Rose and Noah barely excepted.

  • In reply to Newskoolbulls:

    It's true Derrick didn't shoot a good percentage tonight. I guess I'm just wondering if we want him to be the(scoring) leader of this team or not? His overall FG% is .460 which is well down from the what .478 or something like that he shot last year. Maybe he's not taking it to the hole enough. Maybe his having no legit post threat or effective three point shooters(no half the nights where Gordon would fill that role). Still, he had nine assists with only two turnovers in this game. And even though Derrick's still having trouble hedging over screens, he's still playing much better defensively - with some good help from his bigs defending pick and rolls I might add.

    I'd say when a guy who averages 15 ppg in Bogut torches Noah and the bigs(for 27 tonight) both times he plays them, that's saying something. Just like the way all the bigs torched us on that western road trip(to hell). Thing is I have no hate for Noah. He's just a flat out gutsy player who has matured into a cool, down to earth, hard nosed guy you can root for as he contributes in myriad ways.

    Really, watching a guy like Denver's NeNe you see how big he is in the hips and legs/lower body, and yet he's still fluid and quick for a guy that size. The more I think about it, if the Bulls want to win, they better hope Noah can somehow put that 15 pounds on his skinny legs, hips, and yes butt. Because they are desperately lacking that guy. If Noah could be that guy, I just don't think you can overstate how huge that would be for Chicago. That and also getting a backup who can do a Noah Jr./a reasonable imitation when he's in their. Right now Taj is just light-years away from having that kind of body not to mention his foul prone ways which are a real problem. You get an offensive mind to match or surpass the very solid job Bob and Pete are doing defensively with an ability to define and ingrain player roles on the court for consistency and momentum's sake, that system makes Rose that much better, and you get a physically empowered Noah, and I think you have something. A legit three point shooter or two wouldn't hurt either. And that ever elusive 2010 Superstar dream.

  • In reply to SamS:

    That's exactly what it is: a dream. This team continues to regress. Now Tyrus is back what excuses do we have? No talent? Immature? Bad coaching? Injuries are no longer available unless we're hampered with Jerome James being out. Every loss is starting to look the exact same way these days. Start off slow. Make a comeback and build up a lead. Go cold for half a quarter or more. Make a furious comeback (again) and lose close one because we can't make a 3 or two. Repeat.

  • In reply to SamS:

    Sammy,

    Bogut is the kind of player the Bulls need at center. He owns No-Shot Noah. Strong and athletic players make Noah disappear. Noah lacks bulk and strength!

    It took Noah three (3) years to get in shape and he is still a "weakling", he is "lazy". If he had been lifting weights for the last three years it may have made a difference but some people just can't add bulk.

    If the Bulls had a center like Bogut where would you play Noah?? He doesn't have any offensive skills. Noah is a back up!

    Pippen and Grant were skinny and skilled and three years later they added a lot of muscle, "lazy" No-Shot Noah has no excuse for being that "weak". Where are the coaches and trainers, they should have him lifting weights all year long with breaks for muscle recovery!

  • In reply to Alex:

    Actually Noah, would be the ideal compliment at either the 4 or the 5 if he had a talented scorer playing with him at either the 4 or the 5.

    Noah is slightly undersized at center, and likely slightly less athletic than you would like at the 4, but anybody who consistently puts up 12 rebounds a night, hustles, causes turnovers and blocks shots has a place in my NBA anyday.

    It is not Noah's fault that Tyrus Thomas is a basketball moron with no decernable power forward skills. Nor is it his fault that the Bulls braintrust can't find a single offensively skilled player at either the 4 or 5.

    After Rose, who is the Bulls most valuable player, it is Noah hands down, and he might be more valuable than Rose because of his intagibles, and Roses meek personality.

  • In reply to SamS:

    Tyrus Thomas is IMMATURE and HE NEEDS TO GO!!!

    He showed his immaturity last night when he he made a steal with the Bulls up by 7 and 9 minutes to go in the 4th quarter, but instead of passing the ball to Derrick Rose for an easy break away dunk, he SELFISHLY kept it, got fouled and then showed his immaturity by going in for a dunk after the whistle blew.

    If I was John Paxson or Gar Forman, Tyrus Thomas would be suspended or traded by the end of the weekend.

    He's not a PROFESSIONAL.

  • In reply to SamS:

    Doug,

    By the way, did you pick out that SKIRT for James Johnson yet? I believe the LUV-A-BULLS have a some tryouts coming up soon. He would be good on their 2nd or 3rd team.

  • In reply to SamS:

    Noah my not be the ultimate center, but he is the least of our problems. Right now, Rose is a bigger problem than Noah. Rose and Noah are the only 2 Bulls that are legitimate keepers, and the only 2 Bulls who can contribute to a championship contender.

    Everyone else is borderline useless, they all need to go.

    I would take 5 Noahs over any other combination of any 5 players on the Bulls.

  • Doug Thonus said:

    It's worth noting that when Noah was pulled from the game, Bogut had 17 points on 19 possessions if I'm not mistaken, or maybe it was 19 points on 21 possessions. Either way, he had scored a lot, but he had used an assload of possessions for those points.

    Doug, this is reality:

    If Bogut was one on one with No-Shot Noah for 50 possesions, Bogut woold win 86 to 14! Noah had no hope of stopping Bogut!

    Put a skirt and lipstick on the lazy weak No-Shot Noah and after he gets pushed off the court this Florida Fairy can take his place with the Luv-A-Bulls.

    Noah and Hinrich are nothing more than back ups! Deng if he lasts the season is just a average NBA starter on a good day! Paxson has wrecked the Laff-A-Bulls for years to come!

  • You know, I feel like complaining, I've been a fan of the bulls since the Jordan era and stood by them through thick and thin, but this team is just bad. I've had a time where I was as frustrated as Mr. Happy but I just simply don't care anymore. I don't watch games much anymore, still tune in to listen to them while I word sometimes but that's about it.

  • In reply to DannyV:

    Correction. While I "work" sometimes.

  • In reply to DannyV:

    Yah I would take Camby for Tyrus any day or any of those other guys. But right now he is not the biggest problem on our team, not even close

  • In reply to Hendu0520:

    The lack of production at PF is in fact the Bulls biggest problem right now. That and the fact that they need to upgrade their SG position and find a new head coach.

  • That's a good idea. I never thought about that. He would make for a good contestmant on "THE BIGGEST LOSER."

    Actually, the Bulls fans' are the biggest losers, because we have to watch James Johnson continually SUCK for this team.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    contestant, not contestmant....oops.

  • In my trade proposal, the Raptors get David West, a former all-star and 20 and 8 guy for Chris Bosh, not Tyrus Thomas.

  • Not really, contract aside, I take Noah over Deng everytime.

    I appreciate that Deng has made an effort to rebound this year, but otherwise he has been less than mediocre, and attrocious when you factor in his contract.

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