Bulls top Warriors in OT chuckfest

Great Bulls D?   Poor GS shooting?   Maybe a combination of both.   The Bulls finally get a win, and they needed one if they want to revive the season.   With two potential blowouts coming in the next two games against the Celtics and Lakers they really needed this one to have any chance to stem the bleeding. 

When you think about it, it makes the NJ loss hurt all the more.   Still, the record at this point isn't nearly as big a problem as the play.
The one thing that's really gotten me lately is the way we defend the pick and roll.   Noah steps out to show on the pick and roll, but then immediately turns and chases his guy to the basket.   This ultimately slows down the guard momentarily, but then after that moment both the guard and the big man are free for a second while Noah's moving to recover and Rose is still trying to get in front of his man.

The Bulls interior defense typically rotates to get in position to help Noah on the roll man until he gets a chance to recover as well, but then this forces everyone to do a half rotation for a moment and then rotate back.   Good teams have just picked this defense apart, because there are moments where there are multiple open players with chances to get to the basket or hit jumpers.

The main problem is that they use this coverage on almost every pick and roll.   If they mixed it up to have a full trap, Rose go under/over the screen, or a full switch occasionally then their defense would probably be more effective.  While the hybrid fake trap is pretty effective at giving you the best of both worlds, it's effectiveness wanes when it's used so often teams see it coming.

As for the win, it was largely due to the front court.   Taj, Noah, and Miller simply used their size against a Golden State team that was playing small virtually all game.  Mikki Moore, Radmonovic, and Randolph were their "big men", and the Bulls used their size to kill them with their trio posting 39 points and 38 rebounds shooting 18/32 from the field. 

The Bulls guards struggled something fierce all game.  Rose, Salmons, and Hinrich combined to shoot 15/50 from the field and put up only 32 points.   Why the Bulls didn't force the ball inside more given that their guards were throwing up a brick fest and Warriors had Corey Maggette guarding the Bulls center for big chunks of the game is beyond me.

Luol Deng had an okay game overall, he played an insane 52 minutes to put up his 21 points, 6 assists, and 6 boards, and took 20 shots to do so.   Still given the crapfest that was the rest of our perimeter players, Deng was again a bright spot more so than a negative.

James Johnson had three minutes of action, and now that Hinrich is healthy that's probably what we can expect going forward.   Not that I blame Vinny, who's coaching for his life at this point, but it makes his recent statements about playing Johnson more laughable.   He had several weeks he could have played him considerable time while only "sacrificing" minutes by Lindsay Hunter and didn't do it.   Now it's too late.   Opportunity wasted.

I'm glad the Bulls got a win.  I'm not in the "let's tank" mode as this team could still turn it around, but this game didn't show me much that makes a turnaround seem likely.   We lost to one of the worst teams at home a few days ago, and needed OT to beat another one of them today.   It's still not good.

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  • Nice to see Brad Miller forsake his Sean Penn impression ("Dead Man Walking") and finally contribute.

  • It was a chuckfest. Can't argue that. Hinrich, Salmons and Rose were a combined 15 for 50 from the field. The Bulls and VDN should feel real lucky to escape with that victory, especially after a shooting display like that one.

    By the way, what did you think of Luol Deng getting 52 minutes of action, while your boy, James Johnson, only played 3 minutes and 30 seconds?

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I don't think VDN can keep extending Deng like that. Why not play James Johnson until he fouls out?

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Couldn't you make the arguement that this was how Bulls were winning games before though? I mean the big the thing was that they were playing hard, which as long as they do Del Negro should keep his job.

  • In reply to Dpauley23:

    I agree, they played harder last night. However, they still need to get a better handle of the concept, "48 minutes of Intensity."

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Laurence Frank...next Bulls coach?

    http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/63360/20091212/bulls_may_have_eye_on_lawrence_frank/

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Rumors are rumors.

    I still think VDN has some fight left in him.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    if the warriors shot as well as the usually do they would won easily. The bUlls D was not a big factor.
    this version of the Bulls is truly one of the lousiest teams they have ever had.....Ron Mercer era Jalen Rose era etc included. They played like a bunch of drunks

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Doug, I am resetting my win forecast from 31 to 30. This team can win 30 games, if they get back Tyrus sooner rather than later. If not, it could be between 22 and 27.

    I love Loul in the postgame interview, "We wanted to come and play harder and get this win" What he meant was, "We knew this win was important because there's two blowouts on the way" ... sad.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    sophi's choice. hunter at 1/2 or JJ/deng at the 2.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Where's the faith?

    This team might just have some more fight in them.

  • I think that there's major differences from this year from 07/08. First off the players were just laying down so that Skiles would get fired. You saw that vs Golden State that there going to play hard. Secondly you have some good things going on like, Noah playing pretty good, Deng regaining his 06-07 form, and Derrick find himself since the Lakers game. I still this team has good chance at 43 wins and 5th seed in the playoffs

  • well not one person on the team is a consistent man on man defender...taj noah n kirk all get pushed around..the rotations are regularly a mess (and that is one of Tyrus' greatest faults, somewhat masked by his shot blocking). Luol n Salmons are no stoppers are can be drive by with ease. Against GS the Bulls D was hardly challenging or clever. the warriors were just not driving to the hole much.....
    So let me ask, what is this teams strength? I cannot think of one facet were they excel...not any of this potential talk we've been fed for years but what are these guys good at.

  • I still think this is a team that will sniff .500. Getting Kirk and Tyrus back help considerably and the schedule won't be as rough. They'll also almost certainly make at least minor moves by the deadline. But sure, the past two weeks have demonstrated that the bottom falling out is at least a real possibility.

  • How would TWILL fit on the Bulls and JJ fit on the Nets?

    Young BULLS Core:

    PG - Rose, SG - TWILL, SF - Deng, PF - Gibson or Thomas C - Noah

    Young NETS Core:

    PG - Harris, SG - Lee, SF - Johnson or CDR, PF - Yi, C - Lopez

    It seems, to me, that they would fit better, if that trade was made.

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