Bulls beat 76ers 94-88

After an absolutely brutal start to the game where the Bulls let the 76ers get all their shots at the rim while looking like a train wreck offensively the Bulls came back and stomped the 76ers.   The Bulls bench dominated this game for the Bulls with Hinrich and Miller both coming up with huge games.
Random thoughts on the game:

- The Bulls need to change the Big Mac award from over 100 and a win to holding opponents under 90 and a win.

- Kirk Hinrich and Brad Miller won this game for the Bulls.   They shot the ball incredibly well and absolutely destroyed the 76ers bench.

- Joakim continues to be a double double machine

- Derrick Rose struggled early with turnovers and passiveness, but he came on as the game went on and had a lot of shots in the paint.

- Philly looks awfully similar to the Bulls on offense, they settle for a lot of bad jumpers.  The Bulls look a lot better on defense though hounding them far more.

- I'd like to see Luol play more efficiently on offense as far as points per possession, but he's doing everything else so well that it's really hard to complain.   Especially given that everyone else has played far worse.

- Odd side note, if you discount Johnson and Gibson who scored 0, everyone else who played scored at least 14.

- Nice to get this last win before the trip out west.


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  • They didn't feel like a win.

    VDN and the team captains need to do a better job of preparing this team to play. They fell behind by 14 points in the 1st quarter and let the Sixers go on an 8-0 to start the 3rd. That's inexcusable.

    On a positive note, the way Deng and Noah are playing, if Rose, Hinrich, and Salmons could ever find their game the Bulls could be a scary team to face.

    Oh yeah, did you see the game Brandon Jennings is having tonight. Right now, he has 43 points vs. Golden State.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I forgot the question mark, but Jennings is certainly answering his critics. Make that 45 points.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    50 for BJ.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Can you say you like Danillo Gallinari Mr. Happy? Please

  • In reply to Newskoolbulls:

    Did John Madden hand over the curse to me?

  • In reply to Newskoolbulls:

    BJ has that killer instinct in him, something Rose lacks.

  • In reply to Newskoolbulls:

    It looks like my other boy Kelenna Azubuike may have a SERIOUS KNEE INJURY. That sucks. He's a good guy with a great story, who I have always liked watching play basketball.

  • In reply to Newskoolbulls:

    Does anybody honestly think the Bulls can win a championship by needing 6 or 7 guys score in double-figures? I think they really NEED a superstar (aka Dwyane Wade). Go check what he did tonight.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    MrHappy who said anything about this team being a championship elite team???

  • In reply to Dpauley23:

    I never did say that.

    I'm just bringing up the point, that until they get a TRUE SUPERSTAR on this team, they can't compete for or win a championship.

  • In reply to Dpauley23:


    Did you see this rumor?


    Okafor for Kenny Thomas? If that comes true, I'm going to PUKE. Why don't the Bulls offer up Jerome James and Tyrus Thomas (a Lousiana native). They can get rid of Salmons and find a way to being in Wade next July. I'll take this lineup.

    PG - Rose
    SG - Wade
    SF - Deng
    PF - Okafor
    C - Noah

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Here's the trade I have in mind.


    To Bulls: Emeka Okafor
    To Hornets: Tyrus Thomas and Jerome James

    Couldn't Okafor be the post up player the Bulls seem to need?

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Doug do you think when Redd and Kevin Martin come back from injuries will they be shopped? Both teams have florished with out them. Redds deal expires after the season so maybe we can send a package of Tyrus, Jerome, and a late first. Kevin Martin I believe is in the first year of a 5 yr 55 million extension (maybe second year), he would ruin our chances at 2010 but his deal is a bargain. What do you think?

  • In reply to Newskoolbulls:

    Doug check your email.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I am really worried about Rose. He looks like a scared rookie out there. If he doesnt get his shit straight I dont see us being in a playoff race down the line.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Westbrook-Jennings-Rondo all make me sad when I watch Rose.

  • In reply to Newskoolbulls:

    Despite last years playoff performance and continued great play this season, Rondo is vastly underated.

    The Celtics probable got a bargain in resigning him for $50-$55 million.

    Now there is a guy that I would pay 6/$54, or even 5/$58.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    BJ...55, 5 and 5 tonight.

    If Rose wants to be the best PG in the League, let alone the Division he has some work to do.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    This proves how little all the experts in and around the NBA know. personally, I had Jennings going to the Knicks in my mock draft. Thank God that didn't happen, or Lebron might be signed, sealed and delivered.

    Rose is starting to scare me.

  • In reply to MrHappy:


    I hate to say this, but I think I'm putting a curse on the guards I like. First, Byars doesn't make the team and now Azubuike might have torn his patella tendon tonight. From now on, I'm not promoting anymore players.

  • Maybe someone should send him the tape of the game.

  • Has to be, better be

  • I saw the game. Most of his shots were open looks. He also hit 7 of 8 three point attempts.

    warriors were not playing defense and made no attempt to double team him once it was obvious that he was hot

    Warriors still could have won - but boneheaded SJax turnovers sank them

  • No, No, and No.

    Do they have one yet? No.

  • He's a better post-player than anyone the Bulls have. Plus, he's been a double-double guy his entire NBA career.

  • Is that sarcasm, on your part?

    Come on. Let's say they get Okafor in a trade using Ty Thomas and Jerome James. Instead of having a $37.6 million dollar payroll they would have a $43.6 million dollar payroll, assuming they dump Salmons.

    Now, in order to have the room for Wade, they would have to trade off Hinrich too. That leaves the Bulls with Rose, Wade, Deng, Okafor, Noah, Johnson, Gibson, two draft picks and the MLE to add some players. So, they could hypothetically put together a roster of 13.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    The Okafor suggestion aside, I think Wade needs to be the top free-agent target for the Bulls. They could always draft another PF or pick up a veteran like Camby (for cheap) and compete for a title.

    Wade would change the whole outlook of the Bulls.

  • He signed the deal 5 yrs 55 mil back when BG took the one yr deal. So this should be his second. Martin doesnt play team basketball and his value seems down since the Kings have been on a role since he went down. When he does play he is a scoring machine, if he cant buy into a team game he would be awsome on the bulls. He had the BG balls to take big shots. As for Redd I think he would be a good risk to take short term and see if he has anything left. His knee is still bothering him though.

  • There all trying to use you doug lol (never me for free bulls stuff :).

  • Bulls have a great nucleus, they just need to get some more consistency.

  • In reply to joshkadams:

    The Bulls have a great nucleus of role players, they just need to get some more SUPERSTARS, who are consistently great.

  • The Bulls will be at roughly $37 million is salary with Salmons and roughly $31 without him. If the cap is set at roughly $53 million and a max contract will be around $16 or $17 million, it seems like they have room for one of the 4 top free-agents, either way.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    I don't care if the make a play for Okafor or not. Dwyane Wade is the guy to go get. They could always add more front-line depth in the draft or via the MLE.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    That $37 million includes taking Tyrus Thomas off the books.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Okafor can shoot the fade-away near the rim and he's ambidextrous around the rim. I think this could be a chance where he plays PF, which is his natural position. Last, stop doubting Rose, we're winning and that's what matters. I see we have a lot of Bulls fans that are weak in the knees.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Back to that Emeka Okafor trade rumor. Any chance of this happening?

    To Bulls: Spencer Hawes (or Jason Thompson)and Kenny Thomas
    To Kings: Emeka Okafor
    To Hornets: Tyrus Thomas and Jerome James

    It would help New Orleans out money wise. Ty Thomas would get to go back home to Louisiana. The Bulls would get a forward or center without a bad contract, that can post up. Plus, Brad Miller is familar with them. Sacramento would get the guy they apparently want.

    That's more reasonable. I think.

  • Will they get one? That's the $17 million dollar (max contract) question. Or is it?

    What could help them answer that question is TV revenue and commercial appeal. That is what drives pro sports. Wade, LBJ, or Bosh in Chicago or New York would get bigger ratings and commercial time, than either of them in Miami, Cleveland, or Toronto. I hope they realize that.

    Chicago makes for an excellant location for either of those guys.

  • Why would Bulls want to trade Tyrus for Hawes? That would them with 3 centers and besides Tyrus is playing better than Tyrus. Also Hawes has pretty good chance of taking them out of offering a max contract to free agent

  • I'm playing the whole Ty Thomas is from Louisiana angle. Plus, look at what Chris Paul did for Tyson Chandler's game. I have to believe he would elevate Ty Thomas'.

  • Could they sign Wade in the offseason and then do a sign and trade using Ty Thomas after that?

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Or would they pull a Thabo Sefolosha move and try to get a late 1st Round pick for Ty Thomas?

  • You're right Hawes could easily be dealt even though thats little risky if the team helds you hostage and makes you give you another key piece. I think now is the time to go after David West from Hornets though. Trade them Salmons and TT for West and Marcus Thornton

  • No they would have to make Thomas unrestricted free agent to sign Wade ala renounce his rights

  • In reply to Dpauley23:

    The trade that I still think makes sense is this one.

    To Bulls: Marcus Camby and Mardy Collins
    To Clippers: Tyrus Thomas and Jerome James

    The Clippers could play Thomas at SF or PF. The Bulls could clear cap space, see what they have in Taj Gibson and bring Camby and Miller back next year on the MLE, if they want.

    Where's the drop off in production?

    PF - Gibson/Miller
    C - Noah/Camby

  • In reply to MrHappy:


  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Bulls 2010 Roster (in theory):

    PG - Rose/Hinrich
    SG - Wade/Salmons (player option)
    SF - Deng/Johnson
    PF - Gibson/Miller (MLE)
    C - Noah/Camby (MLE)

    * Add two draft picks and another player off an exception (Derrick Byars...sounds good) and there you go. Plus, the following year, they could clear out Salmons, Miller and Camby, if they choose.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    We can't use Midlevel exception next year since we will have cap space plus we can't sign Wade if Salmons exercises his player option

  • In reply to Dpauley23:

    Right now, the Bulls have enough money, if Salmons picks up his option to go after one max player (Wade, preferrably).

    The cap should be at $53.5 million and the Bulls will be at $37.5 million in salary. That's a $16 million dollar difference, which is what the max player will get.

    After they sign the max player, hopefully Wade, they will be able to use the MLE (Camby and Miller). So, that plan works.

  • In reply to Dpauley23:

    I need to visit the cap doctor. I have a headache.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Okay, so if Salmons opts out and Tyrus is denounced, that puts the Bulls at $31 million in salary. However, they would only have Hinrich, Deng, Rose, Johnson and Gibson under contract. How do the add a max contract and then fill in the remaining 7 spots needed to get to a roster of 13?

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Excuse me, the remaining 6 spots to get to a roster of 13.

  • In reply to MrHappy:

    Happy one of your problems is your forgetting about Noah and their 1 round draft pick. Im not sure if they have 2 since they might have sent him to Portland for Asik who they'll probably bring over next year. They might bring Brad Miller back too. They will use bi-level exception on someone and use couple league min.

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