Cheerleading is NOT a sport: These pictures and a judge prove it

I know this post won't win me any fans, but I've never believed cheerleading is a sport.  I HATED that my girls wanted to try it when they were younger.  But being the ever supportive parent, I let them join and bit my lip the whole time.    

Well now a judge has ruled that cheerleading is not a college sport and it can't be used to meet gender-equity requirements for Quinnipiac University.

I understand that there is a lot of controversy and there is a difference between cheerleaders who basically clap for boys sports and ones that go out and perform in competitions.  I'm really trying to buy into the whole concept, but once my kids came home with a cheer that went: 'Like totally; For sure; I just got a manicure. The sun; I swear; is bleaching out my hair..." -- all bets were off.  You take a look at some of these cheerleaders in action and you tell me cheerleading is a sport:

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  • Cheerleading a sport? What a judgement call, at some schools no way, at some schools where you go from the tumbling team to cheerleading, oh yes! I was a school nurse in New York for 11 years and it al depended on the school and the coach. Some schools it was clapping with pompoms some schools they were the hardest working team in the yearbook.

    The dance squads wearing as little as possible associated with professional sports should be kept out of the "cheerleading" mix. They are paid professionals as opposed to the high school and college squads who do whatever they do at whatever level they do it at for their school.

  • In reply to janerickard:

    Thanks for the feedback. I think the problem I have is that the fundamental core of cheerleading is it's girls clapping for boys sports. Yes, it's morphed into something much more athletic, but it's still the underlying theme.

  • In reply to kirby:

    everyone needs to understand there are many types of cheerleading 2 being school cheer which i competely agree with the first statement being said at the very top but when it comes to COMPETITIVE CHEERLEADING its a wholeeeeee new thing heres a link of what i do and this is a real sport like really look at every detail, we do so much and ive been doing this for 13 years now and im 18 now, cheer is not what it use to be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLywEkle984

  • In reply to kirby:

    i think you are only looking at the bad part. me being a competitive cheerleader takes this offensive. Competitive cheerleading is hard, yes school cheer is clapping and telling the boys good job at their games.. but when you are a competitive cheerleader its much more. I know from experience that competitive teams put in 2 hours 3 days a week or more. We tumble, dance, and cheer. Its much harder then people think. So before you go judging competitive cheerleaders and saying that it isnt a sport, go watch and see how much hard work and time that is put into it, all for just 2 minutes and 30 seconds on a stage.

  • In reply to missme12:

    i totally agree. im a male cheerleader in GA and i compete at the college level. i took so much offense i went and made this account

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    In reply to missme12:

    Thank you when people say the cheerleading is not a sport they need to go to a competitive cheer gym and just try to keep up with them with all of the tumbling jumps conditioning and everything else

  • In reply to Sharday Douglas:

    Yesss! I agree! They cant talk unless they do it!

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    In reply to missme12:

    This is very true I am also a competitive cheerleader I in fact am a flyer and it takes balance patience and timing you can get hurt very easily I have been dropped several times. Being a cheerleader has taught me that even though there are problems in life you just have to work through them.

  • In reply to kirby:

    im a guy and i cheer. i cheer on our mens and womens basketball team at my college and then i throw girls over my head and hold them safely as they pull off amazing stunts.

  • In reply to kirby:

    Woah, hang on there... cheerleading is not "clapping for boys sports". First of all, sideline cheerleading is usually done by young girls who don't want to get too serious or do both competitive and sideline.

    Secondly, competitive cheerleading is... HARD. Both of my teams (sideline and competitive) are trained by experienced tumblers and my coaches have been dancing for many years.

    No, gymnasts can't be cheerleaders, and cheerleaders can't be gymnasts. Gymnastics is performed with technique and total self concentration. Cheerleading requires a ton of teamwork, memorization, dancing skills, and tumbling. In sideline, it's all of that and cheering at the top of your lungs at the same time.

    As a side note, all of the pictures you have included are either NFL cheerleaders (freaking joke), outdated pictures, or just weird ones. Why don't you get some real ones from actual competitions?

  • In reply to daniblahandylu:

    IKR!!!! Ok, so I'm a sideline cheerleader! I love what I do and it is hard to be a competitive cheerleader... I know this because I go to the gym and help them with the stunt team's stunts!!! I choreograph them and I'm only in 7th grade!!! Sideline cheering is really difficult especially if you have a dry throat like me!! :( But cheering is the thing I always look forward to no matter what. We just had our cheer camp for younger students (at my school) today. I was in the Kindergarten group and they all looked so cute doing their little dance we made for them. I think cheerleader isn't about short skirts or shirts it's about being positive, having fun, and doing what you love! I think people judge cheer leading on NFL cheerleaders and not everyone is like tht @ all!!! I mean us 7th and 8th graders don't wear half tops and really short, shorts.

    AND WOW WOMAN WHO WROTE THIS ARTICLE....... YOU WON'T LET UR DAUGHTERS LEARN A SIMPLE FUN CHEER???? WE HAVE ONE FOR KINDERGARTEN CALLED "THE COOKIE MONSTER"!!!!!!!!!!!!

    So let your kids do it! Even if you don't think it's a sport why does that matter anyway? I like to go shopping but and that's not a sport and my mom still let's me go!!! WHAT"S ANY DIFFERENT!!??? Can someone explain? PLEASE!!!!!????

  • In reply to daniblahandylu:

    i totally agree with everyones comments! i am a military kid so i move from school to school. My freshman and beginning of sophomore year, i was on a high school squad and we did everything from cheering at football,basketball,and volleyball games to competitions everywhere! we had respect from our school cause they realized how hard we practiced and worked. But than i moved to a school where we barely stunt, no tumblers and the cheers are horrible, and we get no respect because of this. but its not because we suck its because its a military school so people come & go at all times of the year so you loose cheerleaders all the time! my other school was a public school, so we were more open to competitions and more experienced people! So cheerleading is a sport cause we work or at least try to work as hard as any other team there is out there!

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    In reply to kirby:

    i am not sure if you are aware but men created cheer leading women were not allowed to cheer at all for a good amount of years also they have number one concussion how is that not a sport i would like you to see a real team not youe daughters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYbU0CmoMa4
    those are the girls i coach

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    In reply to kirby:

    Cheerleading is a sport, i take 5 hours everyday to work on all my stunts, no its not a waste of time because i love it a alot of people do. Most of those pictures are the 35 year old sluts that think they are 15, the rest of the pictures are photoshoped. Competitive Cheerleading and Sideline Cheerleading are two very types of differnt cheer, for instance, Sideline cheerleading makes up cheers to please the crowd, and most of that crowd is teenage boys. Competitive Cheerleading they don't talk all they say is Go Supremacy! as they would say on my daughters cheer team, she is only 11 and comes home everyday sore, sweaty, and always with a smile on her face.

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    In reply to kirby:

    Very clever pictures, even most schools cheering is steering away from Pom Poms and pleated skirts and thank god for that. I have two girls and they have been doing competitive cheering at an all- star gym for over 7 years, these girls work extremly hard not only do they have to cheer but they are required to dance and tumble which means full back hand springs, tucks and lay outs. I believe we can see the same back hand springs, tucks and layout during the olympics. As far as your pics go most of the pro football cheerleaders are playing to a crowd but if you sat and watched them they are athletes. Do I love thier uniforms no but it's football and men watch football.

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    In reply to kirby:

    speaking as a cheerleader for 10 years i do have to say that yes it is very much a sport. i think you have only been shown the negative aspects of cheer and i can honestly tell you that we are not a group of dumb blondes with no work ethic that have been taught to all clap at the same time and smile. I hope everyone realize that we work for months to only get the chance to prove our skills in two and a half minutes. And after all of this, we get slammed as stupid, told our passion is not a sport, and given the smallest amount of respect from people who haven't even experienced what cheer really is. So the next time anyone has anything to say about cheer not being a sport go watch a national competition then try to compare those skills to soccer or lacrosse.

  • In reply to kirby:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfNfaIdlXx8&feature=watch-vrec
    These girls are the top in the WORLD. I would like to see you get out and do the stunts they're pulling off. Your problem is, all you see is the cheerleaders that dont take it seriously. These girls do. If you aren't willing to let your girls get serious about cheering, you might as well have them quit while they're ahead.

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    In reply to janerickard:

    NOT ALL CHEERLEADER THAT CHEER FOR HIGH SCHOOLS ARE LIKE THAT. AND ALSO THE HIGH SCHOOL CHEERLEADERS GO TO COMPATETIONS LIKE ANY OTHER CHEERLEADERS DONT BE SO CLOSE MINDED. THE CHEERLEADERS ARE NOT JUST SOME SKANKY WHORES

  • I don't know why anyone would consider cheerleading a sport. My girls cheer but even they know it's an entertainment activity, not a sport. I know they get tired of hearing the condescending crap they have to hear about "It's not a sport." That doesn't mean it still isn't a fun thing to do and not a "loser" thing.

  • In reply to jenmcautry:

    I completely understand. It is fun, and that's why I let me girls do it originally. I think I really got with some bad coaches. One year, the football team came running on the field and the coach said, "O.K. girls, here come the boys... turn around and look pretty" I wanted to throw up.

  • In reply to kirby:

    Did you even watch the video you posted in your own article? The "Cheerleading is a sport" advocates in it specifically state that cheering at a high school or professional sporting event (football, basketball, whatever), pictures that you posted, is NOT what they think is the sport in question. They're referring specifically to the competitive side of it, which involves scores, grading, rules and regulations. Why did you not post any pictures of these events?

    I don't get the snarky remarks about the scantily clad girls either considering Male Swimmers wear even less.

  • In reply to DBCOOPER888:

    Yep, I watched the video. Thanks for inquiring. There are different forms of cheerleading, I get that. But the bottom line is, they're all called cheerleaders - under a big blanket. Maybe you should be an advocate to change the competitive portion something other than cheerleading.

    I think the difference in male swimmers is that they're not thrusting their hips forward prior to diving off the block to show everyone how big their bulge is. There is also a purpose to wearing less clothing, so there is less drag. I'm not sure what the purpose is for the women wearing less. clothing to cheer.

  • In reply to kirby:

    What's wrong with having a blanket term for "cheerleading" while still separating "competitive cheerleading" from the typical non-competitive Friday night Football cheerleading? Do you also object to calling track events sports because they fall under such broad categories that are not necessarily sports such as "running" or "jumping"? Because sometimes I have to move furniture and objects of various weights around the house, olympic weight lifting is not a sport?

    Regarding the clothes thing, I think it's easier to twirl and flip around with less clothes, not more = )

  • In reply to kirby:

    I'm a cheerleader and have been for a few years now and cheerleaders dont just "thrust there hips forward" and we dont cheer just so we can look pretty and make everyone on the football team look good. We are role models for people in our school( if you are a cheerleader for your school), and also we are entertainers at peprallys. The whole skimpy clothing thing isnt just for looks, its really hard to do tumbling in jeans if you havent noticed and also if we wanted to look hot and cute for the football players we would be wearing heels not tennis shoes. I GUARANTEE if a regular person went out znd tried to do some of the stunts and jumps you have to do in chher you wouldnt even know where to begin. You have to have muscle to do stunting. You cant just throw someone 10 feet in the air when you tiny little chicken arms. Just sayin

  • In reply to Cheeralltheway:

    I was a high level gymnast and turned down being a cheerleader. I didn't cheer because of silliness like this.... What on earth makes you think you are anyones role model?

    Cheerleading is not a sport. Cheerleaders do level 5 tumbling... And that is the few that can pull a double twist.

    If cheerleading isn't about looking cute then why don't cheerleaders wear sweat pants or shorts. Nope, it is a tiny skirt that serves no function and way too much makeup.

    It is cool that u like cheerleading, but that doesn't make it a sport.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    y cant gymnasts wear shorts or pants? or even a shirt? and cherleaders do much more than just a double. if you havent noticed there are alot of cheerleaders who can do a double and much more.

    Thank you for comparing cheerleading to gymnastics. you keep saying everyone else is comparing the two, but really you are the one that keeps comparing them. and how can gymnastics be a sport and cheerleading not? we do much more than just tumbling.

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    im a high level gymnast too and i agree with xizora. cheerleading isn't a sport. and incase you haven't noticed gymnastics is in the olympics. Also, most of the cheerleaders that tumble more than a double twist aren't that great Their knees are bent and toes aren't pointed and their legs aren't together and it just looks terrible.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    ok:
    1st thing: At my school there's a group called the "populars", now I'm not one of those girls & i will never want to! They are mean to everyone and I do set a good example!!!!!!

    2nd thing: So what.... Sideline cheering, we don't do flips..... we r their to cheer our school on so they stay possitive!

    3rd thing: About the sweat pants and shorts thing....... We do kicks, kicks require leg space, leg space (if there's too much) leads to ripping your pants. Thats why we wear bloomers and a skirt. We don't do it to look sexy in our uniforms. MY school even makes us wear long sleeve half tops under our shell!! and competitive wears as least amount of clothing as possible because of 2 things- stunts and HOT HOT HOT (like sweaty hot)

    4th thing: Makeup....... Have you ever been to Las Vegas? New Orleans? ok, well it's all part of the show! Its goes with their uniforms and usually looks good. And boys usually don't just go to cheer competitions, so idk how any1 could say competitive is all sluty!

    5th thing: And I think that cheerleading is just as hard of work as gymnastics! Maybe even more than what you guys do!!!!! We constantly learn new routines and stunts. We work on tumbling and new cheers. We plan camps and fundraisers! That's just as hard if you ask me!

    Hopefully u get my point! LEARN FROM THIS!

  • In reply to kirby:

    If you havent noticed cheerleading is going to extreme levels and some of the tasks being performed require for less clothing. For example, a guy doing stunts with a girl he needs to be able to grab her stomach to catch her. If she has a shirt on he is more likely to slip and she will fall. The skirts are just to cover the spandex which volleyball players wear for each game. As far as the pictures you have shown, I have never seen a competitive team wear those outfits at a competition and I have been to more competitions than the average competitive cheerleader. Look into it more and you will see why the clothing is becoming smaller. It is to make the new stunts being created alot safer for the girls on top.

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    Again... If the clothes are just about comfort and movement then why not a close fitting shirt? Long spandex? Shorts? It works for other physical activities... Why not cheerleading?

  • In reply to Xizora:

    if you look closer at my comment you will see that the clothing is getting smaller so the girls going up are easier to catch and shirts would just slip. volley ball players wear shorter spandex than half the cheerleaders out there now do. and you still call that a sport. guys need to be able to catch skin. and i never said anything about comfort!!

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    Most sports the athletes are dressed for comfort.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    im not saying the clothes are not comfortable but cheerleaders have to wear what they do because of the skills they are performing.

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    See... This is my point. They don't HAVE to wear uniforms like this. These outfits are not even close to the most practical thing cheerleaderscouldwear.

    These uniforms are only standard because we have all accepted them. But if someone was wearing the same thing, and they weren't a cheerleader you would call them skanks.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    the pictures she has posted are dancers, not cheerleaders. go to a cheerleading competition. you will not see these outfits there. cheerleaders cover more skin.

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    at least one of the pictures was of a college cheerleader and several of them are of highschool cheerleaders

  • In reply to Xizora:

    yes but the pics she has, some are set up and others as far as the signs, people make mistakes.

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    Yes a person will make mistakes....there are 6 different girls holding that misspelt sign.

    What's with the girls showing there butts? You can't say those rant cheerleaders. They are clearly cheering on a sideline of a football game.
    And last but Not least there are the guys with the pink bows and the makeup. You can't say that isn't how cheerleaders dress because I have been at Disney world during the national championships... That is exactly what they look like.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    yes, and most of the time those signs r made right before a game so there is no time for corrections. and second sometimes it is a joke. the girls showing their butts if you notice is an older pic. they dont do that anymore. cheerleaders do wear bows and makeup so they can be seen on the floor. and the outfits that look like bikinis are not how cheerleaders dress. i have been to more cheer competitions than the average cheerleader and have never seen any cheerleaders dressed like that. there may be dancers dressed like that but not cheerleaders so get your facts straight!!!

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    Like I said... At least half of those pics are of highschool or college cheereleaders. But you just go right ahead and deny it.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    im not denying anything. just stating the truth and obvious facts. half of therm are dancers. some pics are older.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    im a guy cheerleader and i need to catch skin. if i catch clothes they slip and it tears off skin. we have a level 10 gymnist on our team at my college and we are happy to have her. it seems that it might come down to you couldnt find a role on the cheer team because i can guarantee your motions are awful.

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    I'm sorry but you sound extremely ignorant. It is obvious you know absolutely nothing about cheerleading and are fine ignoring evidence of its athleticism even when its staring you right in the face. You've chosen to display the most outlandish and ridiculous photos of cheerleaders to support your biased claim against cheerleading. However, it seems that you did not even WATCH the video you posted as further evidence. In the video that YOU posted did you see anything happening that looked remotely like what was represented in the photos that you posted. Let me save you the trouble of looking and tell you NO.

    Whether or not you believe cheerleading is a sport, you cannot deny that REAL, COMPETITIVE cheerleading is HARD WORK. I'm sorry that your daughters were taught a brain-dead cheer (which they probably learned on the school yard or during a break time, not likely to be actually performed). But maybe instead of judging and putting down a whole group of people, both male and female, discrediting the hard work they do, and slandering the name of their SPORT, maybe you should try and seek out a cheerleading program for them that exemplifies dedication, team work, and cheer, and not the stereotypes that you curiously and all to easily give in to.

    Think about it.

    And fyi, cheerleading is not just cheering for boys' sports. 1) I have also cheered for girls' sports as well 2) At cheerleading competition, no one is even thinking aboutany other sport but cheerleading, except for maybe the Dads that got dragged along hehe.

    P.S. Please tell me which part of this is not athletic to you

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAMl6XsOawA

  • In reply to crzycncr:

    Tl;dr

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    It's true! I'm a volleyball player and I bet any volleyball player would tell u tht they role their spandex up to help with diving better! AND YOU R REALLY JUDGING A BOOK BY ITS COVER! Little girls where those uniforms and ur calling them skanks?? WOW!! Watch their dances! Watch their cheers then come bak and tell tht they TRULY R SKANKS! and i mean tht! I truly do. I would b saying im srry to all those little girls tht love cheer! and cheerleaders were always a role model to me and I always said I was going to b a cheerleader when I grew up! AND GUESS WHAT? i AM

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    Cheertwin... A level 10 gymnast is completely qualified to say cheerleading isn't a sport. I was a level 10 gymnast and I don't think cheerleading is a sport.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    guess what, so was I!!!

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    CHEERLEADING IS A SPORT!!!

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    you are totally entitled to your opinion. good for you for having fun doing what you do.

    i am just saying in my gym the cheerleaders are seen as a joke. sorry if that offends you but that is what it has been like in every gym i have been in... and in some gyms they dont even let the cheer teams practice there.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    ok maybe so. i have seen that. gymnastics is completely different than cheerleading so trying to teach it in a gymnastics gym is kinda hard. its kinda like trying to teach volley ball in the gym. but go to a gym where they strictly teach cheer. its a totally different environment. and the gymnastics coach i had was a 3 time olympic gold metalist. and the tumbling and balance he taught me, i was able to carry over to cheerleading. therefor they are similar in ways. cheerleading isnt just based on dance and cheer it is based on tumbling, stunts, pyramids, and performance.

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    Here is the thing about cheerleaders in the gym. Please don't get angry.. just hear me out. What cheerleaders do lacks all grace.

    They slam into the mats like Mack Trucks. The jagged and silly movements of the arms in V's with arms up and fist clinched comes off so harsh. The heads bobbing up and down in this weird... I-am-agreeing-with-you nod/headache thing looks so ridiculous it has actually set me to laughing so hard I had to leave.

    After spending practice...
    1. working to keep things graceful and easy. 2. Trying not to to slam into mats or equipment.
    3. Trying not to distract my fellow gymnast..
    ...a group of Cheerleaders come in and drive everyone up the wall with the noise and the complete lack of respect for the equipment and mats.

    The male cheerleaders try to out tumble the elite men's teams and almost always ends up embarrassing themselves.

    ::sidebar:: And can anyone please tell me why the best tumblers on cheer teams are usually the bigger girls? What the hell is that about? Shouldn't the smaller cheerleaders be at least keeping up with the bigger gals?

    Anyway... don't be offended because some people don't think cheerleading is a sport. Some people don't think gymnastics is a sport... this doesn't stop me from loving it.

    Just for the love of God, if you go into a gym where gymnast are practicing... try not to bring the noise with you. The clapping can be left outside of the gym. And try to pound the mats when tumbling or jumping. A good rule of thumb is that if you can here your movements pounding over the sound of a radio played at a medium volume then you are landing way to hard. Also please do not mess with the chalk. Do not clap the chalk. Better yet just pretend the chalk isn't there... you guys do not need it.

    Next time you are with your team just concentrate on how noisy and ungraceful your craft actually is. I think just having this pointed out to you may really make you see what everyone else is seeing.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    no. that may be the way it is in your gym but in mine and any others we are tumbling gracefully and not trying to pound on things. and we dont bob our heads. they did that years ago but no longer do it. and as far as being noisy, my gym is not noisy unless doing a cheer. so i think you have the wrong vision of cheerleading because your gym doesnt know what real cheerleading is. if they did you would not have these problems.

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    I have practiced in gyms all over this country and I have never found one that this wasnt the case.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    wow. you really are an idiot. thats because gymnastics gyms focus on gymnastics not cheer.

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    If you don't have an interesting or valid point you should just call people names. It is rude and comes off desperate.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    When I am talking to an idiot it will be known. sorry but i just tried so hard to give you the chance, you just really arent proving to me that you arent an idiot. you just keep proving it more and more. and if you dont like it, stop commenting.

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    these words to not go together to form any kind of sentence or paragraph.

    I am going to keep commenting because you are getting worked up over it and it is HILARIOUS...

  • In reply to Xizora:

    Oh, and BTW... you arent "giving anyone a Chance" as you put it. You were the one that started with the name calling.

    just because people have a different opinion than you does not make them idiots. Nor does it make them any less of a person.

    You are a very selfcentered person and if anything you are proving why people hate cheerleaders.

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    haha ya right! maybe a level 7

  • In reply to Xizora:

    No, a level 10 Gymnast is not qualified to say what is or isn't a sport. Why would that make them qualified?

  • In reply to DBCOOPER888:

    I suppose competing in an NCAA 'activity' doesn't really qualify me, per se. It does give me an interesting perspective.

    It is fine if you think cheerleading is a sport. It is fine if you think gymnastics isn't a sport. Like I said before your opinion isn't any of my business.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    then y dont you stay out of it. if you are so passive about it then find something else to argue about and leave cheerleading alone. and you keep saying it doesnt matter if people think gymnaastics is a sport but you keep bringing it up. leave it out. sounds like your jealous that this isnt about gymnastics.

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    No Cheertwin.... tons of people... including yourself have compared cheerleading and gymnastics. that is what brought it up.

    Don't get upset because you brought something up and then you were corrected. It is ok.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    nobody has corrected me. i just dont think you understand that this argument is about cheerleading not gymnastics. nobody else brought up gymnastics except for you. the only reason i compared it was because you started it. get out of this argument and go start your own with gymnastics. idiot.

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    Here is the thing tho... you DID bring up gymnastics. (reread your original posts... you brought it up)

    This is a forum to discuss your thoughts and read what other people have to say. Some people agree others do not. I was enjoying the differences of opinions and thought people on both sides brought up good points.

    The unfortunate thing for you Cheertwin is that I have every right to post anything I want to on this forum.

    I haven't resorted to name calling or telling people to shut up. You did that. Congratulations. You are representing your "sport" very well!

    Just enjoy your cheerleading and if it bothers you to read this stuff then just don't read it. Life is way to short to be so upset.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    Cheertwin.... this is the quote when you first mentioned cheerleading.

    "Eumm.. Sorry but CHEERLEADING IS A SPORT !!!!! Their is team in almost every country and there is a lot of Championship. And there is like not a lot of team cheering for a football or basketball team. I do Cheerleading since now 6 year and I never cheer for team. In the choregraphy we made, we have to include high level of gymnastic and dance..."

    This was posted on March 4th.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    er.... *this is when you first mentioned gymnastics.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    if you read the post correctly, you would know that i did not post that. who's the smart one now?????

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    Yeah you did... I copy and pasted it straight from your post on march 4.

    Look honey... You can keep this up all you want. It has given myself and my husband a good laugh several nights in a row. So please keep it up.

    You started with name calling and having hussy fits and we both have laughed and laughed. Calling someone names isn't very nice and it makes you seem like you are about 12 years old. Since you said you've been doing cheers for 6 years I am assuming you are not 12. Right? Because if you are 12 I will just leave you alone.

    Now it is your turn to get all mad again... But I will remind you that Brevity is the soul of wit.

    (Id bet everything I own you have to google that, and you still won't understand it)

  • In reply to Xizora:

    Btw.. You can post under more than one name but you can not change your writing style. Either that or you people all have the exact same terrible grammar... If that is the case you rant doing cheerleaders any factors by WRITING about it.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    Damn iPad auotcorrect!

    Aren't not rant

  • In reply to Xizora:

    our style is nothing alike. i dont say like randomly in a sentence. and i have very good grammar. just really dont care about using it here.

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    again honey... Brevity is the soul of Wit. Look it up or something.... it could help you a lot.

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    I reall am curious about something...
    if... "Xizora is not worth arguing with." why do you keep arguing with me?

    just curious about this really.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    Look at the name again. difinately not me! idiot!!!

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    I know what it means. and im not twelve, and have been doing cheerleading for much more than 6 years.

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    If you have been doing cheerleading for more than 6 years then you are WAY too old to be doing cheerleading. Sorry honey.

    I must admit it is really fun to see how worked up you get tho. ;o)

  • In reply to Xizora:

    And... if you knew what that saying meant then you would be quiet.

    Please I would love to hear what you think that saying means. :o) good luck

  • In reply to Xizora:

    Cheertwin... I have actually been thinking about how sad you are all day. I feel like I am picking on the Downs Syndrome kid. And although it is very funny I don't know if you are really the kind of person that can handle this sort of thing. I am kinda thinking you may not be.

    I don't want to be getting these big laughs off you all day and you are like sitting around getting high blood pressure and crying or something.

    Anyway... Thanks for the laughs but I don't want to be responsible for you freaking out or something.

    Just please remember that just because people do not agree with you that doesn't make them idiots. Being a cheerleader is not some kind of special gift. It doesn't make you a role model. It doesn't make you a gymnast. No one thinks different of you because you are a cheerleader.

    Try not to put so much energy into worrying about what other people think. It appears to be destroying you.

    Good luck with your uh... 'sport'.

    Any further responses WILL be posted to failblog and cracked. People are getting a big kick out of you so far.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    i am a very happy person with a very big heart. not alot of people care for things the way i do. Apparently you dont have a heart. and no, im not crying. you are an idiot. you just think gymnastics is the hardest thing, news flash, its not. i dont want to be a gymnast. thats why i took up cheerleading. gymnastics was fun but the real fun is cheerleading. im not destroyed. i have great life and just look down on people like you and shake my head. Just saying im glad im not that person. im glad i have the heart i do. And to say it feels like picking on someone with down syndrome is just awful to say. I have worked with many kids with down syndrome and they are actually really smart. As far as people laughing at me, Just as many are laughing at you because all you seem to talk about is gymnastics. and you say im the self centered one. You really are pathetic.

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    You have officially made my day!

    LOL!

    Thank you so much!

  • In reply to Xizora:

    i did not compare cheerleading to gymnastics in the way you keep saying. I usually dont call people names but you really are an idiot. IT just cracks me up how you cant stop talking about gymnastics. everyone that makes a comment, you make one after them saying something about gymnastics. get over yourself.

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    I can't believe someone with the obvious talents you have for the written word... Called me an idiot! lol!

    Look hun... As long as you keep getting all worked up I am going to keep proving you wrong. So let's see how long we can keep this up.

    The fact is you brought up gymnastics by lying and saying cheerleadrers do high level gymnastics, which is simply not true. You guess do midlevel gymnastics at best.

    Also, these pics weather or not theta are real school cheerleaders (which some ARE school cheerleadrers), represent what people think of when they think of cheerleadrers.

    Now, I have two college degrees, I have competed in national championships, I am well read, I have a wonderful husband and a great career... What makes you think I am an idiot?

    Checkmate..

  • In reply to Xizora:

    Oh... Just because you post under more than one name doesn't mean you change your writing style. Either that or all you people have the same terrible grammar.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    That post wasnt me. I dont use like in the middle of my sentences and i finish my sentences. They also make sense. so no that wasnt me. Glad you tried to prove a point to me, but you failed because it wasnt my post. Have a good life and keep bagging on cheerleaders, but at least i know cheerleading is a sport. arguing with someone as idiotic as you is just pointless.

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    then you are making fun of one of your fellow cheerleaders.

    wow. yall really are bitches. even to each other.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    "I dont use like in the middle of my sentences and i finish my sentences. They also make sense. so no that wasnt me. "

    this is again. a direct quote from you. read it out loud and see how much sense you are actually making.

    I love how you say you make sense and finish your sentences.... in a sentence that isnt complete and doesn't make any sense! Oh thank you for that.

    BTW, all of your post are being submitted to failblog. they are loving them! They want you to keep posting because it is giving them material. Thanks.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    its kinda funny how you and your husband laugh at my comments every night. Cant find anything better to do? i probably would focus on someone else to if i were your husband. and no, im not making rude comments about others grammar, i just said i dont say like randomly in my sentences. im done with you though. waste your life on a stupid blog. so much for having two majors. lol.

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    LOL! Perfect!

  • In reply to Xizora:

    For all you that know cheerleading is a sport, this website is pointless to argue on. Just know it is a sport. they can show as many pics as they want but you can find bad pics of every sport. and Xizora is not worth arguing with. she will just keep bringing up gymnastics. i was a gymnast too. Gymnastics and cheerleading may seem the same but are different in many ways. that doesnt make one harder than the other, it just makes them differet. Therefor if you believe cheerleading is a sport, dont let these ignorant people waste your time. Just go on with life enjoying yourselves and consider yourself lucky for not having to deal with the idiots. CHEERLEADING IS A SPORT AND ALWAYS WILL BE. AND ONE DAY WILL BE THE LARGEST SPORT THERE IS.

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    haha... no one cares what you say or think... AT ALL! LOL! hahahahaah

    Quoting you directly... "CHEERLEADING IS A SPORT AND ALWAYS WILL BE. AND ONE DAY WILL BE THE LARGEST SPORT THERE IS."..

    HAHA and I am supposedly the idiot.

    BTW, my friend starting reading you post allowed for her speach class and it got huge laughs.... she wanted me to thank you for the A!

  • In reply to Xizora:

    Xizora, do you have something better to do...? Sounds like you're a little bitter.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    just the things you are saying makes you an idiot. MY grammar was no where what the other girls was. if you think it is u r an idiot. And just because you have competed in National Championships doesnt mean anything. And i also have a great career. NO im not married yet but have a wonderful boyfriend. im just trying to make sure my life is the direction i want it before getting married.

    and yes cheerleaders are given a bad name but they arent as bad as they are believed to be. you are just stupid and obviously this argument is not going anywhere with you. you think just because you are a gymnast you are badass but you are just another person and it doesnt bother me what you think anymore.

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    TL;DR

  • In reply to Xizora:

    I played football in the NCAA and I think Cheerleading can be a sport, so what does that put us?

  • In reply to DBCOOPER888:

    well if you read all my post you will see that i believe your opinion is as valid as anyone else who post on here.

    Like I said before, Everyone is entitled to their opinion. And as long as you are civil and don't start with the name calling like some people did. I think your opinion is fine even if i may not agree.

    I was saying that until people started with the name calling.

    My whole point is that what others think of sports and cheerleading... or even what you think of me is none of my buisness.

  • In reply to DBCOOPER888:

    What i have learned from reading this article and subsequent post....

    1. cheerleaders do not like it when other peoples opinions differ from their own.

    2. some cheerleaders only think the type of cheerleading they do is a sport. They seem to resent what other types of cheerleaders do.

    3. cheerleaders think they are role models. I have no idea why.

    4. cheerleaders are mean... even and especially to other cheerleaders.

    5. for some reason cheerleaders think they do high level gymnastics. (i have only seen maybe level 6 gymnastics when watching cheerleading and those are the college male cheerleaders)

    6. cheerleaders can not spell to save their lives.

    7. most of the angry cheerleaders on this board do not bother reading what other people are typing.

    8. cheerleaders where too much makeup. (gymnastics is judged partially on appearance and they don't cake on makeup like that)

    9. cheerleaders get real defensive and upset over other people's opinions. This is a Chicago board and in America we all have the right to express our opinions.

    I have learned all this simply from this one site. It made me loose any respect I did have for the activity.

    Way to represent!

  • In reply to Xizora:

    I feel like you are grouping all cheerleaders into one negative category based on these various posts. Number four, for example, cheerleaders are mean especially to each other. In any situation where you people are together for long periods of time on a daily basis, disagreements are going to happen, but I do not believe cheerleading has anymore meanness surrounding it than any other sport. And to compare cheerleading and gymnastics is unjust. They are very different. Yes, they do both have tumbling in common but both also have other aspects with them that make the two completely separate activities. I have seen a cheerleader do a roundoff back handspring double back, back extension roll double back handspring double back. I highly doubt that is merely level 6 tumbling. And the cheerleaders on the blog get so upset because of comments like number 6. I'm sure many cheerleaders are not the best spellers, but on the other hand, some cheerleaders can spell just fine. To insult an entire groups intelligence will always cause some ruffled feathers. And cheerleaders are role models. All athletes are. Whether is is cheering at games or competing on a national level, some young boy or girl is always watching dreaming of the day he or she will be doing the same thing. Whether you think what we as cheerleaders do is a sport or not is irrelevant to me because I love what I do. I don't go to practice everyday or compete at nationals to prove to the world I am an athlete. But I would prefer to not be labeled as an ignorant, slutty, mean girl merely for doing what I love.

    By the way, in number 8, the appropriate word would be wear (not where). Should I group all of the people in the sport you play as not being able to use proper grammar to save their life? Of course not.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    Cheerleading at high school football games= Not a sport.
    Competitive Cheerleading= Sport, handsdown.
    Now everybody stop whining.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    Okay, I'm not whining or anything but cheerleading is a sport. Have you ever tried to memorize 30 cheers and then perform them in front of a judgemental crowd? Remember, we cheer for more than one sport too (the total number of cheers I have to memorize through the school year is 120). Sure, cheerleaders don't use objects (I.E. balls, bats, pucks, etc), but we do use people. Our balls and bats are people, and we do throw them in the air at football/basketball/whatever games, and let me tell you, a 130 pound girl is not easy to throw into the air that high.
    As for those pictures, I admit that they make cheerleading look like not a sport, but it is a really easy mistake to have your sign upside-down, I have done it before. That doesn't mean that cheerleading isn't a sport though, it just means that cheerleaders can make mistakes, just like other people. And the faces of the people holding girls in the air? That takes hard work and I would like to see you hold up a girl without contorting your face like that. Some of the pictures were taken out of context too. Like how we wear skimpy clothes? Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders do, but they aren't really a cheer team, they're more of a dance team than anything. Same with the other pictures. The one of the girl with a fist in the other girl's private place, it was probably taken at the wrong time, or it's just part of the stunt. I highly doubt that girl wanted to put her fist there. And of course we have to wear makeup, when we are judged, 1/4 of our score is based on how we look.
    I can understand that cheer about the manicure thing, because it was for kids right? High school/ college cheerleaders wouldn't be caught dead saying that.
    I promise I'm not trying to attack you or anything, but this is just my opinion.

  • In reply to Cheerleader22:

    I am glad to see a cheerleader on this site make valid points.

    You are the only one that has taken the time to write a well written response and you did it without name calling and getting angry and upset.

    The unfortunate thing is that your fellow cheerleaders on this board have been rude and angry, simply because others do not agree with them.

    I had tons of respect for cheerleading even if I didn't think it was a sport per se. I mentioned that on this board and was then called an idiot. It made me loose all respect for the activity.

    However, you wrote straight from your heart and used your head to put it in a much more mature and matter of fact manner. Good for you!

    You can go on knowing that at least YOU represented cheerleaders as people who can hold their own in a debate. Well done!

  • In reply to Xizora:

    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It really shouldn't matter to anyone what anyone thinks about cheerleading. If you like it, Great! If you think it isn't a sport, then that is ok too. There is no reason for anyone to get so upset over it.

  • In reply to DBCOOPER888:

    Yea really!!! So what if ur a level 10! u could b a level 100 and u still aren't! Its not ur job to say if cheer is a sport! Go try it and I swear you will REGRET ur words!

  • In reply to kirby:

    If you have not tried competitive cheerleading or college cheerleading, you are not allowed to say it is not a sport. True fact, I have taken football players who didnt think it was a sport and had them go to a practice. Halfway through they stopped and decided it was a sport because of how hard the practice was and it was an easy practice for the girls. And cheering in college I had several football players come and ask if they could practice with us to get in better shape. and once they did it a couple times, they quit football for cheer. This is happening more and more as the years go on. So Cheerleading is a Sport!!!

  • In reply to kirby:

    I need to point out something...

    Swimming- tight swimsuit.

    Gymnastics- tight leotard.

    Volleyball- spandex and tight shirt.

    Cheerleading- skirt, spandex, full upper body covering with a top shell.

    I consider it hard to tumble with sweatpants and a hoodie.
    ... and for your information, my competitive cheerleading team wears shorts and a shirt.

  • In reply to kirby:

    i take such offense to this article and many things you've said. your daughters were school cheerleaders(the type who cheer for boys and thats it) i have been a cheerleader since i was three and i originally joined for the fun and friends but i soon realized thats not the case. and there are bad cheerleading coaches out there who will say cheer is for smiling and looking pretty, but now days we might all be called "cheerleaders" but there are many different types.
    1. school cheerleaders who cheer for boys point blank
    2. school cheerleaders who compete
    3. nationally cometitive school cheereladers
    and 4. All-star cheerladers- THE ELITE, NATIONALLY RANKED, BANNER WINNING, WORLD CHAMPION cheerleaders.
    these girls work their butts off 3-4 hours per day in a gym throwing stunts, tumbling, jumps, dancing, and at the same time having a smile on their face. try it. not as easy as you think. and as having a blanket name. in swimming you have sprint swimmers, distance swimmers, syncronized swimmers, and other types. all sports have "blanket" names because there are different types of every sport. and then theres the clothing comment. cheerleading was created by a guy and was male dominated for MANY MANY years, what do you think hes going to but them in. Manyy people dont say anything about volleyball players and there spandex but thats the same thing as us in skirts.
    and the worst thing of all is that these girls do all this wihtout people believing its a sport and not having respect for them. i really want you to go and watch, not on TV, in person an all star cheer competition. you will really see these girls have their world revolving around cheerleading and they leave EVERYTHING they have on that floor. (:

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    In reply to kirby:

    He was porbably joking. Just saying.Or maybe he knew one of the girls on the team had a crush on a boy but he didn't want to point one person out.

  • In reply to jenmcautry:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfNfaIdlXx8&feature=watch-vrec
    Yep, deffinately, you know this is so NOT A SPORT. Notice my sarcasam.

  • I'm sorry, but you just sound biased and jaded to me. I started cheering competitively last year after Swimming on a team, Playing for an Ultimate team, and running in Track, and none of it was anywhere near as difficult as Cheer. We practice all-year round several times a week, not on cheers, but on difficult tumbling and stunting skills. Yes, we dance and we wear cute uniforms, but we aren't trashy airheads like hateful people as yourself seem to think.

    The "evidence" you provided in your pictures were of Pom squads and mistakes. You also must have put your kids in the wrong program, because that cheer you provided is god-awful and I have never heard anything even close to being that stupid at any cheer competition.

    It ws ruled as not a sport because they said it was "underdeveloped" and to be a sport they say that you need to be able to affect how the other competitors do with what you do. You come across as immature and misinformed, Next time you write and article I suggest you not type in "Cheerleading Fails" into google images and actually look at some real articles and videos.

    We know we're a sport and I'm disgusted that you'd judge a group of people that are overall hardworking and dedicated by a few mishaps, your own bad experiences, and a some professional dance teams who are payed to look like they don't know how to dress themselves.

  • In reply to ChandaBear:

    You're probably right, I am jaded, biased, hateful, immature and misinformed. However your comment seems a little bitter as well. I'm sorry for offending - not my purpose. I just can't in good conscious, as a female, endorse this activity.

  • In reply to kirby:

    I think you've got it backwards, I am not bitter at all. You sound like the bitter one when it comes to this subject. I am simply upset that cheerleaders like myself and the 180+ kids at my gym can put in so much work, effort and passion into something, and people like you still dismiss it. For you to say that "As a female" you can't endorse cheerleading is the same as saying it is to be looked down on. You're doing the opposite of what you seem to be trying to do! Instead of acknowledging cheer as another empowering, difficult, and exciting sport that girls can be proud of doing, you're just putting people down.

  • In reply to kirby:

    Really? If it was not your purpose to offend people, then why would you place such offensive and crude photos, making a mockery out of a sport thousands of individuals participate in and love? Being a mother of cheerleaders and then posting these photos, is what I don't understand. Is this what you think of when you see your daughters cheer? I am guessing it is not. Now what do you think other mothers think as you make a mockery out of something their sons and daughters may participate in and love?

  • In reply to kirby:

    Kirby I am totally with you. If people don't want to be associated with pics like these then they should take up a real sport, like gymnastics.

    I was a very high level gymnast and I find it offensive that cheerleaders would even compare what I do with what they do.

    If a little bit of tumbling is 'the hardest work out you've ever done' then maybe you should consider tumbling on a balance beam. Try doing a giant on the uneven bars. Or.... Just try ballet. All of these things are harder than cheerleading.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    again... stop bringing up gymnastics. you are the reason cheerleading and gymnastics keep getting compared.

  • In reply to kirby:

    kirby,

    you dont know the first thing about cheer. go experience collegiate cheerleading if you are dedicated to your work and see if you are even able to attempt what we can do.

  • In reply to kirby:

    what i learned from you Xizora.

    1) your spelling absolutely sucks
    2) you were probably cut because you werent talented enough when it came to other things besides tumbling

  • In reply to ChandaBear:

    Nicely said.

  • How can throwing people in the air and risking serious injury not considered a sport when running down a feild with a ball is. Cheerleading is the most dangerous sport for women, I have seen people break bones on the floor and get up and keep going. Yes, there are teams that stand on the sideline and just do cheers but there are teams that compete against other teams across the world.
    The pictures you have aren't of competitive cheerleading teams, they're of dance, pom and sideline. Sure there are sometimes mistakes but there are mistakes in every sport.
    You shouldn't be so judgmental of something you know nothing about. You clearly don't have any idea what it's like to be a cheerleader. I've played softball, basketball, and volleyball and none of them are as challenging as cheerleading. The definition of a sport is "Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively", cheerleading exceeds that definition.I would like to see all the people that say cheerleading isn't a sport come to one of my practices. I wake up at 4am Monday-Friday to practice before school. I suggest you look at videos of competitive cheerleading and see what it really looks like.

  • Definitely going to go out on a limb here...

    Sideline cheerleading at a high school football game? Not a sport.

    Professional cheerleaders at NFL and NBA games? That's a friggin' joke.

    Competitive cheerleading with tumbling, stunting, and dance that requires stamina, strength and endurance? Very much a sport.

  • In reply to RunningJayhawk:

    Perhaps all this controversy could be avoided if they call the competitive part of cheerleading something else completely. Maybe it's the title of cheerleading that evokes such strong emotions. Although there are a few male members, for the most part it's girls, and when I think of general cheerleading, I think it puts women back 60 years...

  • In reply to kirby:

    On high school squads? Yes. On collegiate squads you'll find that men often outnumber women (for stunting purposes). But yes, perhaps they should call it something different.

  • In reply to RunningJayhawk:

    Let's be serious. There are athletic activities, games and sports. Let's define what a sport is. A sport requires 3 things 1) it must be competitive, 2) You must have an "objective" way to score and 3) You must be able to hinder (impact) your opponent

  • In reply to RunningJayhawk:

    Let's be serious. There are athletic activities, games and sports. Let's define what a sport is. A sport requires 3 things 1) it must be competitive, 2) You must have an "objective" way to score and 3) You must be able to hinder (impact) your opponent

  • In reply to joeyates:

    Funny :)

  • In reply to joeyates:

    You can't just make up random definitions for things and pass them off as fact. Having a direct, physical impact on the competitor is not part of the definition. Either way, in Track & Field a competitor CAN and DOES have an impact on the person next to him. Just look at distance runners who constantly battle each other for position. There is also the "psyche out" factor when there is no direct contact. Cheerleading CAN be objectively scored and IS played competitively.

  • In reply to DBCOOPER888:

    My thoughts are that before you argue a subject you should define what the sunject is!
    The fact that you're trying to justify "mental" impact on one person to another is so subjective (and ridiculous) it

  • In reply to joeyates:

    Very well put!

  • In reply to DBCOOPER888:

    Let me defend my USC Song Girls...We aren't cheerleaders. We're dancers.

  • In reply to jennsale:

    Agreed. Guys... "Song" is totally different from cheerleading. It's called "competitive dancing". So don't compare the two.

  • In reply to DBCOOPER888:

    I was and am not thrilled to have a daughter who is a cheerleader. Why -- because she spends 15+ hours per week at practice for her public high school team. Because idiots like you think that the majority of girls who cheerlead are doing it to show some bootey. My daughter is a conservative 16 year old who doesn't yet date. Her world revolves around cheer competitions are the workouts it takes to become the best which includes weight training, tumbling and dance. No, her uniform does not show her belly and whenever possible she's wearing warmups under her uniform. Get a grip and understand the different between sex sells cheerleading and true blue competitive cheer. I'll put my daughter up against any other athlete at the high school -- you try holding at 115 lb girl up over your head with two hands extended. Most football players can't do it. Educate yourself or shut up.

  • In reply to hesitantcheermom:

    I'm very glad you've been able to avoid the pitfalls of this activity. I'm sorry you're so angry about it that you have to post such a hostile message.

  • In reply to kirby:

    Kirby, you're the one posting a hostile message in the first place in denigrating something you obviously know nothing about.

  • In reply to kirby:

    Kirby you are fine. These people are just trying to justify sending their daughters out looking like ladies of the night. Let's face it. There is no other sport that would have the athletes wearing tiny skirts that serve no purpose other than showing their butts.

    You have been polite and calm on this page dispite making so many people mad. They will get over it because somewhere in their hearts they know this is all just an excuse for men or boys to look at them.

    Cheerleading by it's very definition is a call for attention.

    My wish is that the real athletes that cheer will devote their energy to something more useful. Try gymnastics, softball, soccer,basketball, ice skating, tennis, or any of the other sports that don't make you look like a tart.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    I really don't want to get mad or angry, because I completely see you side to the argument. But at the same time, I am a cheerleader and I promise that we don't dress like the DCC. My skirt goes down to about the middle of my thigh and the only skin showing is my arms, legs, and face. Please don't think that we're all whores? We're really not. We're just assigned uniforms on fitting days and the coach designs them. I felt really self concious in mine becuase I only weigh about 87 pounds and I felt like everyone was judging my body. But we wear makeup because with all the lighting or lack of, it's hard to discern faces so the makeup makes it easier. Please don't hate cheerleaders? We do work really hard and we love what we do. And I really admire gymnasts because I wish I could do what you guys do. So why can't cheerleading be considered a sport when we work really hard like you guys? Please don't think I'm a stupid whore. I'm only 15 and I'm still learning a lot. I just think that it would be nice not to be steriotyped anymore

  • In reply to hesitantcheermom:

    I know this is a little off topic Ashley Bond can anyone suggest a good website to find cars for sale by owner in Chicago?

  • In reply to hesitantcheermom:

    you get a "WHO RAHHHHHH" (Deep and Throaty) from me I'll put my 2 cheerleaders up against ANY, ANY, athletes of their age and score them on physical fitness and physical skills, hell we can even throw in a spelling contest and my girls will PROVE BEYOND A DOUBT that they are ATHLETES that compete in a SPORT.

  • In reply to daniel1863:

    Take a football running back and compare it against your chearleaders, he could run faster, longer, jump higher, lift more, and anything else you could throw out, you'll probably think of activities that some how handicap or make the results so that your cheerleaders would score higher, but they have woman's football and other versions of men's sports that women play, and they arn't on the same level and far as skill.
    You can call me sexist, but you look me in the eye and tell me they are equal.

  • In reply to hesitantcheermom:

    Okay, first off I would like to say that you are stupid for thinking that cheerleading is not a sport. Second off, the reason I think that is that you more than likely never went to any of your daughters' cheer practices while they were in cheerleading. I am 16 years old and have been a cheerleader for 5 years. I know how hard my squad works on getting our stunts, dances, cheers, and other things that make us look good for our high school fans. You don't know how much work goes into everything that we do, all you see is the finished product. Do you know how many hours are spent just on routines? NO! We don't wake up one day all thinking the same exact thing and nail a stunt the first time. We practice it over and over again til it is as perfect as it can be. The way I view it the cheerleaders get hurt more than footballs players. The reason behind this is, boys are wearing pads! Yes pads. What are cheerleaders wearing? Uniforms.. Just a shell, shirt, bloomers and shoes. My school knows that their cheerleaders work their butts off just to entertain them. They see that we come to school with black eyes, spraing ankles, bruises from head to toe, and pain every where. What do the guys get when they work hard? Turf burn, maybe a jammed finger, or a pulled muscle. Everybody thinks that we aren't as strong as any other sport, but I would love to see the writer of this article and everyone else who says cheerleading isn't a sport get out one day and try what we do! Oh, and by the way the NFL cheerleaders are NOTHING like high school cheerleaders. Also, your picture that you posted about wanting to know what they were looking at. They were looking at their flyer and making sure she doesn't fall and yelling a cheer at the same time you half-wit. So get all your information correct and go to a cheerleading practice, you might see that we actually do a whole lot more than just wave our pom-poms and cause a disturbance.

  • In reply to joplinflores:

    Because you're young I'm going to ignore your obvious lack of manners and focus on your lack of knowledge. Sweating and hurting yourself does not make a physical activity a sport. Sounds like you're very proud of what you do, but the fact that you don't have objective scoring "not rating" and you can't "physicall" impact your opponents ability to score makes it not a sport. BTW, being proud of hurting yourself is not something to be proud of!

  • In reply to joeyates:

    Ah Joey, thanks for being a voice of reason once again... I struggled with even answering, given the respondent's age. I can only hope wisdom comes when she realizes the fans are not for her, they are for the athletes competing in the sport.

  • In reply to joeyates:

    Hilarious and true!

  • In reply to joeyates:

    I am a former cheerleader and now a cheerleading coach. To think that the pictures describe cheerleading in any way is absolutely pathetic. If I were to type in

  • In reply to Sbarne18:

    You know its occasionally fun listening to the people who coach and or participate in cheerleading express their passion for their activity and attempt to justify it as a sport. But most of their points are based on attempts to degrade legitimate sports and or the people who disagree with them. But we people also disagree with logic not unfounded emotions. If you would read the entire tread before going on an emotional rant you would know that. And, there are almost no degrading comments made about cheerleaders. And, please don

  • In reply to joeyates:

    How exactly did I degrade other sports? I appreciate all other sports as I have participated in many as well and I know how much time and athletic ability many of them require. You don't have to think cheerleading is a sport, that is your opinion, although I may disagree, but for someone to post these pictures of half naked women and justify that as their reasoning, not so much. And you are one to talk about going on a rant and not factoring in "logic" as you are set in your opinion and although individuals have given you many reasons why cheerleading should be considered a sport, you redicule their opinions believing only your own is correct. Others have even mentioned that they can see how sideline cheerleading may not be considered a sport, as you are there to support another team not to compete. By your standards of what a sport is you take away gymnastics, swimming, track, and many other athletics considered to be sports. But yet, your definition of a sport is the only one you believe matters reguardless of the fact that these activities have been considered sports for years and years.

  • In reply to Sbarne18:

    I referenced not only degrading other sports but also the people who had/have a different view, specifically those who have been cheerleaders or coach it. The implication being that those experiences offered you all a unique insight. (My referenced to my background was to simply state that others also participate in athletic activities.) If you would have read the threads the author

  • In reply to joeyates:

    Again, you're just making up random definitions of "sport" to suit your own purposes you troll. Your definition is not at all "reasonable", it is a farce. It's not a matter of opinion. You've provided no historical context on anything, it's just more trollish behavior.

    A sport is simply an organized, competitive, and skillful physical activity requiring a standard set of rules in which a winner can be defined by objective means. None of that has to do with whether or not an opposing person is on the same field of play at the time.

  • In reply to DBCOOPER888:

    BTW, if you would read the entire thread you would see that why the judge ruled as he did! The university was using cheerleading as a way to "pad" the number of female participants in sports to comply with Title 9. My historical reference was how a lot of schools did that, and how the attemp to pad the numbers is why it is included. Not on any merits of its own! Read the entire thread!

  • In reply to joeyates:

    I enjoy the insults of people like you it shows the value of good sense! Your "personal" definition doesn't define competitive! You can't compete when your advisary is somewhere else! And subjective scoring (judging) is not objective! You prove my points! Thank You!
    otice me not responding to your "troll" comments? Its below me!

  • In reply to joeyates:

    Problem is, if we go by your definition, then the entire sporting world is wrong as well. In the end, you're just arguing semantics because, in terms of Title IX, the NCAA, etc, they all recognize several events to be "sports" that you would consider to be "games". If it doesn't matter if a thing is a sport or a game, who really cares what it is? In that case, all things that we consider to be games (Rubix Cubes, videogames, etc) should be recognized by the NCAA because they already recognize "games" like Figure Skating, Swimming, etc.

    Also, judging can indeed be objective so long that there is internal consistency that does not change on the fly, without established criteria.

  • In reply to DBCOOPER888:

    Thank you for making my points! You're absolutely correct, using your definition Rubik cubes, video games, swimming, figure skating, etc would be considered sports. That's what this debate/conversation is about. And, I stand behind my assertion that judging as the ONLY" criteria for scoring also disqualifies a game from being considered a sports! That criterion along with the absence of a competitor demonstrates that cheerleading being considered a sport is just political correctness (which is where and why the NCAA and the Judge comes in)! Again Thank you!
    It is ok for us to disagree! The Judge did also!

  • In reply to joeyates:

    You think video games and Rubiks cubes are comparable to competitive swimming and gymnastics? What the hell is wrong with you? No one thinks this but you.

  • In reply to DBCOOPER888:

    Your comment! You should read what "you" write! The only competitive thing in "your sports" is that a winner is declared! Not that the other party "competitor" could impact it! In "my SPORTS" the winnecan impact the opponents ability to score! Stop flying off the handle! What the hell is wrong with YOU!!

  • In reply to DBCOOPER888:

    us cheerleaders think this is a sport we practise everyday we go to tornaments we work hard. we r apart of a sport.

  • In reply to DBCOOPER888:

    Okay first of all the first picture you have she is not a cheerleader she is a dancer. And with the signs some people to make little mistakes. The upside down sign how exactly do you know that none of them noticed. Do you seriously spend your whole time trying to dis on cheerleaders. All cheerleaders do not just cheer for boys. Infact they cheer for girls just as much. They cheer at GIRLS basketball games and GIRLS volleyball games. Also have you noticed there are more male sports in high school then there are female, so of coarse they are going to be cheering for girls and boys. They dont necessarily cheer for boys they try to get the crowd pumped up and help their team to a victory. You cant say that cheerleading is not a sport we do stunts i would like to see some of those football players go out there and do some of the stuff we do with perfect form it is more that just yelling and hitting motions stunting is actually very difficult you have to have alot of strength to tumble and stunt. Yes i agree that cheering at a game (sideline cheering) is not a sport but cheerleading in general like competitive cheer or all stars is a sport and with the comment that somebody said about not meeting the requirements to be a sport we meet every single one of them. You do score in competitions you do have to make the other team strike out bu making your routine better at competition. The pictures you have did you go to google and find the bloopers and accidents that people make i bet i could find just as many awkward pictures for other sports. The picture that you have of the girls doing a stunt you cant be looking at any thing because we wear spankies! The uniforms yes their is a reason for what we wear. Not all cheerleaders have belly shirts and your butt hanging out of your skirt. The big bows we wear yeah that is to have your own individuality why not have fun with what you wear. Cheerleading is a sport and all these comments i can prove that they are wrong of they point out something saying it isnt a sport.

  • In reply to cheergirlalyssa:

    you go girl!

  • In reply to DBCOOPER888:

    I don't know where to even begin with this. I agree with everyone who has been calling you uneducated. So maybe I should start by trying to give you some knowledge of what cheerleading is. First, let's start with a legit definition of sport. "an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature" thank you dictionary.com for a correct definition.
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sport

    Cheerleading fits the actual definition of a sport perfectly. We have just as many practices, if not more practices then "real sports." We condition, and lift for hours, some of us can bench press more than the football players can. Cheerleaders are also the most dedicated to their sport, we train for years and years. Often times girls start at the age of five. We learn progressively harder stunts and gymnastics abilities as we get older and get better. Can you do a standing full? no? We teach little girls to do them.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OzPjvzISRM
    Can you do a split? That's a requirement on 90% of cheer squads
    or how about a toe-touch that hyper-extends? or multiple ones?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGYuDaimDvE&feature=related
    what about advanced pyramids?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92kmwMcfjis&p=5BBDC4C1F766F92E&playnext=1&index=20
    As for our uniforms, we wear tight fitting uniforms because it is more difficult to tumble and to stunt in loose clothing. We don't wear them to look like sluts.
    We are possibly one of the most physically demanding sports. We tumble, we throw girls in the air, we dance, we yell, we jump, we run, we stunt, All while staying on beat. In no other sport so you have to have strength, flexibility, rhythm, trust in your team members, agility, endurance, and a lack of fear. Cheerleading is the most dangerous sport for women because we put our bodies through so much. Some girls even die cheerleading, but its not a real sport?
    http://www.livescience.com/health/080811-cheerleading-injuries.html
    The only reason that judge rules that cheerleading is not a college sport is because competitive cheerleading is still a new sport, so it isn't developed enough, give it a few years, it will be an NCAA sport.

    Now on to the pictures I'm want to tell you why every one of those pictures is a terrible representation of cheerleading.
    1.she is a professional "cheerleader" which means she is actually a dancer
    2. Many teams do basket tosses through the basketball hoop all the time, and they don't get stuck, this was just an unfortunate event.
    3. They probably realized it was spelt wrong, but most high school squads have an extremely limited budget, paper and paint we pay for ourselves would you want to waste all that paper?
    4. how does she look like a fool? because she is smiling? sorry you don't like smiles.
    5. its not like they can see anything, cheerleaders wear spankies so you can't see anything. Its the point of spankies. And also they are doing what they are supposed to, watching their flyer to make sure she doesn't fall.
    6. she probably has a pulled hamstring, it happens all the time in cheerleading.
    7. They probably know its upside down, guess what? you only have a minute to unroll a sign if it is upside down, then it is upside down. if you try to fix you will get run over by the players running through it.
    8. I have nothing to say about this one except its a comedy show that makes fun of everything!
    9. The one girl is touching the flyers butt, the other isn't touching the flyer at all. Whats the problem? sometimes in order to make a stunt work you touch the flyers butt, its not like its violating or anything its for the sake of the sport
    10.the bows are attached to hair ties that keep our hair in a ponytail. and they look fun, and cheerleaders are supposed to be fun and have spirit.
    11. That picture had to have been take 20 years ago, and so what one cheerleader is a ditz, i bet there are ditsy people on volleyball teams and soccer teams. and most cheerleaders maintain a 3.5 g.p.a. or higher.
    12. Again professional "cheerleaders" are actually dancers!
    13.the signs are face down on the ground so you can't see them and then once you pick them up you also can't see them so thats really not her being dumb. sorry. she probably had no clue it was upside down because she couldn't see it.
    14.this has to be old too, and her spankies slipped, girls get their pants pulled down in soccer games. whats the difference?
    15.she has spankies on so she isn't showing anything, and its probably part of a stunt
    16.again dancer!
    17. there is nothing wrong with little girls wanting to cheer. Cheerleaders often times end up as strong, successful, independent people.
    18. their dancers. sorry
    19. again old picture, and they have spankies on, the spankies probably say something on them. and we don't practice mooning people at cheerleading practices.
    20. George W.Bush attended Yale University and Harvard Business school. And was the president. Even if you don't like him you have to admit he got somewhere in his life and had to be smart, places like Harvard and Yale don't accept dumb people.

    As for the comment about only cheering at boys games; first you never mentioned that being why you hated cheerleading originally so i think you were changing your story and second many schools cheer for both boys and girls sports.

    As for you Joey, if your really 50 then it is extremely creepy and not necessary for you to be arguing about cheerleading. You don't have to deal with cheerleaders, so why do you care so much if it considered a sport. Did some college cheerleader turn you down because your old? is that the problem because that's the only reason I can think of that would make an old guy care so much about cheerleading. Especially when you have no clue what you are talking about.

  • In reply to DBCOOPER888:

    this whole arguement is ridicullous. those pictures are not cheerleaders there pommies/dancers that don't do anything at those levels. all star cheerleading is without a doubt a difficult SPORT. we pracitce more than most sports and have competitions all the time. theres nothing about it that makes it not a sport....

  • In reply to DBCOOPER888:

    Okay, personally being a cheerleader, I am offended. You have associated cheerleading with the people who might not care about what they are doing. But there are thousands of girls out their who bust their butt almost every day doing what they love. It's not to get boys' attention or show their bodies off, it's to pump the crowd up. Hence the name cheerleader. Leading the cheers. Can you imagine going to a Friday night high school football game without cheerleaders? They are just as important as the actual team. And atheletes have one season. Cheerleaders are year round. My squad works very hard to entertain the crowd, on the field and at practice. I've never seen such hard working people than at practice. We pick a stunt, and we do it. And do it. Until we get it. It's about determination. So saying that cheer is vulgar and distasteful is very untrue. Have you ever considered looking at the positive side of cheerleading, perhaps? Step out of your box for a second and follow where I'm going. I have made some of the best relationships with my fellow cheerleaders. We're a family. It's a good experience. We know that we're all sticking together no matter what, whether it's non-cheer related or if someone fell out of a stunt. We work hard. Period. And since you have posted such bad example of cheerleading, I ask you to take a look at these pictures:
    http://www.libraryontheweb.org/march_2007/cheerleading/1.jpg
    http://cheerwiz.com/PCA.jpg
    http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2008/10/15/va1237335651568/perth-angels-cheerleaders-6301229.jpg
    http://www.oakharborcheer.com/Toetouch.jpg
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Mercer_Island_High_School_Cheerleaders.jpg

    Now, I ask you, go in your backyard and try to do those stunts. Try to do a toe touch. Try to perfect a complex dance routine. It takes hard work. So your portrayal of cheerleading, to me, is misleading. It's just as important and complicated as any other sport. It takes just as much, if not more, work. And although the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders are more of the dance team genre, have you ever watched their show? Have you ever seen the routines? Try to do them. It takes 110% of pure willpower. But I used to hate cheerleaders. HATE them. But now, as one myself, I have the utmost respect for the girls who step out on that football field every week and give the game spirit. Who represent their school.
    So remember this: we're not all stupid, blonde, anorexic, slutty, careless.
    We're strong, determined, and confident.
    So rethink your opinion.

  • In reply to DBCOOPER888:

    I forgot when looking at your judging criteria, "judging can indeed be objective so long that there is internal consistency that does not change on the fly, without established criteria", how convoluted that is! In a sport you can score, PERIOD (ball goes in basket, athletic crosses goal line (with ball), opponent can't return the ball, person pinned to floor for 1 second, etc.) Judging has to change on the fly because of new stunts"! Kobe can only "score" when the ball goes though the basket no matter how artistic the stunt looked on the way! Thanks again!

  • In reply to joeyates:

    Stop with the thanks for making my point crap. No one has made your point and your reasons for thinking so are mostly based off of again your opinion. The purpose of the entire lawsuit was to decide whether or not (in that school) they could use cheerleading as a female sport and get rid of volleyball, with still meeting the requirements. The court case was not solely based on deciding for our society whether cheerleading is or is not a sport. And about your definition, and this is not to be rude, it is just a question, what is your logic behind thinking that in order to be a sport you have to be able to alter your opponents chances of scoring. This view goes against so many sports that are considered sports, to maybe not you, but most of the population in our country. I notice within the feed you are commenting on individual

  • In reply to Sbarne18:

    First let's address the notion that my definition is my opinion and that yours is not. Your definition or lack of is also your opinion. PERIOD! Second my logic behind a sport requiring he ability to alter your oppositions ability to score is based on the following for an athletic competition to exist you have/should have the ability to do such! It becomes a competition, at that point vs. who's fastest or if the judge likes tall people vs. short, etc. Being the fastest is training for a sport (An athletic activity)! REMEMBER THE OLYMPIC IS THE OLYMPIC GAMES NOT THE OLYMPIC SPORTS! Imagine tennis being judged on the serve without the opponent

  • In reply to joeyates:

    How is that convoluted, at all, specifically? It makes perfect sense. Rules in sports like basketball change all the time too, but there is an established criteria by which those rules can change, which is similar to swimming, gymnastics, etc. The three point line, for example, wasn't always in place.

  • In reply to DBCOOPER888:

    The three point line position is of little significanc the ball still has to go through the basket!
    Swimming, gymnastics have never and are not competive, they either have to be judged for scoring ae your "opponenT cannot alter/effect yur ability to score. They are activities!

  • In reply to joeyates:

    Joey, are you bitter or something? Because you seem to really like bashing cheerleaders. Why don't you go find a hobby or something better to do...?

  • In reply to joeyates:

    for some reason cheerleaders are proud of their injuries, but i think its that its because we have ppl like you and kirby that are saying all this shit yall are pulling out of your asses about cheer and then we also have so many ppl that have stereo typical thoughts about cheer along with that stupid movie bring it on which make COMPETITIVE cheerleaders look like a joke! so we have to put our selves out there showing to all these fuckers that we do work hard and do things most people cant and wont ever be able to do, anyone can throw a ball through a hoop or run a ball down a field, i even played football in junior high first girl football player at my school and did competitive cheer at the same time and ill tell you football cannot compare! but tell me if you can do an Arabian through to whip full double double... or do all these things these girls are doing in this video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLywEkle984

    k thanks

  • In reply to hesitantcheermom:

    Okay, YOUR daughter MAY be an exception, but the ones at my school are basically totally sluts, they have all at one time slept with someone on the football team and the uniforms depend on the school, some schools are located in a place with very cold temperatures most of the season, so they would cheer in a heavier outfit, or even a school sweater. Some places are hot and would show some more skin, but it does come down to the school and their stance on it, mostly.
    The absolute best part of this rant is that second last sentence, "Most football players can't do it (lift a 115 pd girl in the air}"
    This is complete crap, the lowest lifting guy on the team, can bench press, power clean, dead lift, and squat well above that, 100% of the players on my team could easily lift your daughter without breaking a sweat.
    I don't know what you mean by "putting your daughter against any other athlete", but she would get killed in football.
    Most football players can't cheerlead, because we are too big, or bulky or not flexible enough (for obvious reasons), but NONE of your cheerleaders on your daughter's team would last a drive in football.

    Educate yourself or shut up bitch.

  • In reply to knowsall:

    Knowsall know a lot!

  • In reply to knowsall:

    Excuse me?
    A figure skater, a gymnast, a dancer, a volleyball player, even a female soccer player would get killed in football. Shut up and stop comparing women's sports to men's sports. Men are stronger than women. End of discussion.

    You guys are all either jealous or feminists.
    Go find a sport you enjoy and stop hating on others.
    Most cheerleaders do not give a flying **** about you (except for me, because I just hate judgmental dumb***es).

  • In reply to hesitantcheermom:

    Exactly!

  • In reply to hesitantcheermom:

    Eumm.. Sorry but CHEERLEADING IS A SPORT !!!!! Their is team in almost every country and there is a lot of Championship. And there is like not a lot of team cheering for a football or basketball team. I do Cheerleading since now 6 year and I never cheer for team. In the choregraphy we made, we have to include high level of gymnastic and dance. Also there is pyramid and stunt that ask so much of power and strengh. Also, we have to be in good health to do all these stunt. And I am able to lift a girl on my hand above my head on one leg alone!!!

    So if you said that cheerleading is not a sport, you are just talking about de Pom pom girl part that almost every team doesn't do.

  • In reply to hesitantcheermom:

    I think that cheer just needs a tuneup

  • In reply to DBCOOPER888:

    It amazes me that "some" people are so emotionally sensitive to anyone that doesn

  • In reply to joeyates:

    The writer herself is the one that is bringing this up.

  • In reply to DBCOOPER888:

    I have to say that this topic is very interesting. Having been involved in cheerleading and poms at the youth, high school, collegiate and professional level I have mixed feelings.

    I agree with Jane that professionals are not in this mix. This debate should be about high school and college. The definition of sport does require certain criteria.

    Cheerleading in high school and in college is extremely demanding. It does involve strength training, endurance and practice. There are football games, basketball games and competitions that most teams are required to go to. The season is tremendously long going almost the entire year.

    These women (and some men) are extremely strong individuals. At the college level, yah I think it probably should be. It requires traveling for sporting events and hours of practice. With high injury rates I believe they should have the resources to stay fit, stay healthy and get treatment for injuries-something all sports get.

    High School is questionable to me. When you have to follow athletic rules, wear a uniform and represent your high school shouldn't you be a sport? If not then should they be bound by athletic rules?

    What bothers me more than the debate of Cheerleading being a sport, is all the negative comments from people. Especially the comments about people thinking it sets women back 60 years. Do I think that little cheer mentioned in the article is appropriate? No. So talk to the coach about it.
    What I don't understand is why people aren't choosing to empower their daughters? Teaching them to break the mold. To be different, strong, independent and intelligent, whether they want to do cheerleading or soccer? To teach their daughter just because she wants to do cheerleading doesn't mean she has to act like a stereotypical one. Or because a girl plays soccer that she can't be just as girly as anyone else, like Serena Williams-who embraces her feminine side with fun outfits during her matches.

  • In reply to AshleyBond:

    Well said!

  • In reply to AshleyBond:

    Ashley, glad to hear some thoughtful comments here. High school cheerleading is considered a competitive sport in those districts and states in which competitions are held. In my state, the same high school sports association that coordinates football, etc., organizes the cheerleading competitions. Competition routines are judged according to specific criteria and prizes, including a state championship trophy, are awarded accordingly. Sideline cheerleading at football or basketball games is not a competitive activity and squads that only do that do not fit the definition of a sport. At the high school my children attend, to qualify for the varsity squad, a girl has to be an advanced gymnast, at minimum have the ability to do a standing aerial back flip. In addition to rigorous daily practices, these girls take private tumbling lessons at area gymnastics academies.
    One judge recently ruled that college cheerleading is not a sport because there is no national championship for college cheerleading. Perhaps he means an NCAA competition. Anyone who watches sports channels knows there are thrilling competitions for college squads.
    A final comment regarding standing on the sidelines cheering for guys. I was a h.s cheerleader 35 years ago, before the current competitive programs were in place, and even then it was not about the guys. It was about status, wearing a cool uniform, performing in front of a crowd and comraderie. Who cared about football?

  • In reply to AshleyBond:

    You make some interesting points, and I agree with many of them.

    I really think my biggest issue is, that I preach equality to my girls all the time and when the majority of cheer programs perform for boys and their sporting events, I just don't see the equality there. If it were, then why don't the girls cheer at girl's sporting events? There are a few here and there, but for the most part, it's girls cheering on boys. That's where I think the activity sets women back.

  • In reply to kirby:

    That's an issue on the individual school level--not the sport (or "non-sport" depending on your stance) as a collective whole. On my high school squad, we cheered at football games as well as boys and girls basketball. And when it came to competition time, we had the entire football team (varsity and JV) at the meet supporting us. While that part is certainly not the norm, it just goes to show it is up to the individual program for who will support who.

  • In reply to kirby:

    OK, I'm not saying that this doesn't require athleticism
    http://nyknickscitydancers.com/photos.aspx?galleryId=96#1

    but lots of things require you to be in shape that aren't sports like:
    1. kneading bread
    2. jumproping
    3.salsa

    etc.

  • In reply to Jake123:

    Cheerleading is a sport. it is one of the hardest and most dangerous. I was a cheerleader. In fact, I was captain of my team. on most squads, you have to have dance ability, rhythm, GYMNASTICS skills, which is hard in and of itself and teamwork. Have you ever watched a cheerleading competition? girls throwing each other around? those jumps, kicks? those moves? please. i think anyone who says cheerleading isn't a sport is just jealous. and I'm not talking about the girls who just sit and clap..because I'm sure most of those girls also compete.

  • In reply to JMilk:

    ew the more i read this the angrier i get. if anything is not a sport it is GOLF. ;)

  • In reply to JMilk:

    I agree GOLF is not a sport!

  • In reply to JMilk:

    I wonder how many people read the ruling within the actual context it was made, rather than cherry-picking the parts that fit with their views and then glossing over that which does not?

    The ruling was not made to pass some "final judgment" on cheerleading's validity as a sport, but rather to determine if a college could substitute a competitive cheerleading squad for a volleyball team. The judge ruled that competitive cheerleading is "still underdeveloped" as a varsity sport at the collegiate level and therefore could NOT supplant a varsity volleyball team and satisfy Title IX requirements.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38347400/ is the link to the story if anyone wants to read it for themselves.

    As for the original post, I really have to wonder why you feel the need to demean what your daughters do? Because of a silly cheer they learned? I didn't realize you weren't allowed to enjoy an activity you engaged in and not be completely serious about it every second you're doing it. Because it's "clapping for boys sports" as you so snidely describe it? That may have been how cheerleading originated, but it's evolved, pretty dramatically, over time, and I think it's pretty insulting to dismiss the skill and athleticism and dedication those who participate in it must have.

    I can see arguments for both sides of the debate, but even if you refuse to acknowledge cheerleading as a sport for some byzantine, contrived reason, I think you should at least respect and acknowledge the athletic prowess needed to participate competitively in it.

  • In reply to JMilk:

    O.K., I concede. You all win. I am all those awful things. I don't support my kids decisions when I don't agree with their choices. I'm snide, ignorant and uneducated. The Tribune absolutely made a mistake by allowing me to write this sad little blog. I definitely need to get a grip. And there is no question I'm a bit snarky. I have no future as a writer, and as I evaluate what most of you have written, you're clearly my intellectual superior.

    However... at least my kids aren't cheerleaders.

  • In reply to kirby:

    Hilarious! Mine either!

  • In reply to kirby:

    I've been following this article all day and decided that I would create an account just to say that I think you are awesome.

  • In reply to Sapporo:

    Thanks so much Sapporo... Who knew what this would evoke, certainly not me :)

  • In reply to kirby:

    I just created an account too, just to tell you you are my hero!

  • In reply to lenny:

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  • In reply to kirby:

    You know I was thinking about this whole debate on my jog this evening and this is what I came up with.... I wouldn't consider jogging a sport, even though it uses up energy and takes some athleticism...running maybe, because of the competition factor. Maybe cheer is the same thing...the sideline, possibly boy crazy/popularity seeking types may not contribute the sport argument, but possibly the competitive types do??? Or is it more of an entertainment type of thing instead of a sport, as most other sports I know of don't involved hollering and whooping it up and stuff. Like dance (ballet, tap, jazz, etc...) and theater...those aren't sports, right?

  • In reply to kirby:

    I read through most of the comments people made and your replies. You may not like cheerleading, but to many people, cheerleading is a sport on par with any other. The commentors tried to share with you that the pictures you posted are of dance teams or goofs. The commentors also tried to get you to understand the difference between competitive squads and sideline squads. Your snarky comments back only showed you have no desire to see a different side of the story. Being snarky is immature. For a person with advance degrees in business and journalism, along with being a proffessor at a local university, I'd have expected more of you. Not everyone is going to share the same viewpoint, but you can at least show some respect.

  • In reply to Cheerleader7:

    Cheerleading is not on par with most sports, girls or boys, and more people think it ISN'T a sport then people who think it is.

  • In reply to Cheerleader7:

    Oh, and also... here's an example of how boys are involved in the sport on a competitive level http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbQlL69eLE0

  • In reply to kirby:

    That's interesting because you said they were cheerleaders, therefore placing them into the cheerleading community. I can see how supportive of a mother you really are. My kids are able to participate in any activity, sport or not, without my judgment. You should learn to grow up, above you stereotypical view points and be excepting of the activities your children want to participate in.

  • In reply to kirby:

    SOOOOOOOO YOUUUU COMPLETELY JUST CONTRADICTED YOUR SELF RIGHT THERE YOU WERE CLEARLY BEING SARCASTIC ON ALL THOSE THINGS YOU WERE SAYING YOU WERE AND THEN YOU HAD TO GO AND BE A BITCH THAT YOU CLEARLY ARE AND SAY AT LEAST MY KIDS AREN'T CHEERLEADERS...

  • In reply to kirby:

    Girl, you are awesome! You have been so nice to these people who, for some reason, have been very rude to u. I agree with u, but even if I didn't you have presented a great point.

    Good for you.

  • In reply to JMilk:

    Golf is not a sport, its a game, if that makes any sence.
    Cheerleading is not a sport, and if you think I'm jealous that you can do a split, your retarded.

  • In reply to JMilk:

    As a level 10 gymnast I resent cheerleaders comparing what they do to what I do. You wouldn't last 15 minutes in my gym.

  • In reply to Jake123:

    I'm not sure about item one, but both jump roping and salsa (the dance I assume) are practiced competitively and require athletic skill and talent, so they can, by definition, be sports. Just do a google search for "competitive jump rope" or "competitive dance" or something.

  • In reply to Jake123:

    I must comment on the decision by this judge. This was either a poor, uneducated, and non-researched decision that was made or there was biased interest to make this decision. There are many good judges out there that will put in the time and energy to ensure they make a well informed decision but there are the others too.

    Cheerleading requires almost year round training and sacrifices and the competitions can be brutal. It is up there as one of the most dangerous sports and the injuries I have witnessed first hand curled my toes. It may need to be establish more unified requirements and be better governed and/or structured to eliminate the teams that do not treat it as a sport but I am not even sure of that. Some of the Football, Basketball, Soccer, etc... teams I have seen shouldn't have qualified as intramurals. I apologize if I am taking this out of context because I have not read every single comment and sports should be fun and if you are no enjoying it you should not be doing it. Also, it is very easy to find images that are a poor representation of the sport. These are like statistics and can be easily skewed and manipulated if a person has an agenda to prove it is not a sport. I guarantee you that anyone can find many images of sportsman goofing off appropriately and inappropriately from every sport out there if one decides to look for it.

    I am not saying anymore about this because anyone who has been involved with this and other sport knows that it is a sport (see definition below) and the decision she made was either uneducated and she failed the system or the judge was biased to rule it was not a sport. I volunteered at RB High School and worked with Chris (Cheerleading Coach) and I assure his team is required to make sacrifices and practice as much or more than any other sports teams. I only have experience with highschool cheerleading but I assure you it does not get easier in college. I will keep an eye out for the judges name on any future ballots.

    Definition: A sport consists of a normal physical activity or skill carried out under a publicly agreed set of rules, and with a recreational purpose: for competition, for self-enjoyment, to attain excellence, for the development of skill, or some combination of these. The difference of purpose is what characterises sport, combined with the notion of individual (or team) skill or prowess.

    Best Regards,
    A Cheerleader's father

  • In reply to joelk2007:

    What a joke definition!

  • In reply to kirby:

    oh lord! do we all have to be feminists? it's overrated!
    and this is coming from a married woman who kept her last name and a has a great career.

  • In reply to kirby:

    Oh, btw...There's cheer where you only compete. It's called All-Star. Plus, the first cheerleaders were male. I know I've already said this, but you don't seem very well researched.

  • In reply to kirby:

    I just read that you conceded and was very surprised. You are one of the most gifted writers in the blogging business that I have had the fortunate experience to read and was humbled by you. I was even going to say I am surprised you do not go back to school for your Juris Degree and run for a bench. But then again, possibly you did some research and are conceding because it is an itelligent decision. LOL, just kidding 100%, you are not the first to reason that it is not a sport and you will not be the last. Although, you really do seem to be sharp and I am surprised at your logic and reasoning.

    Since this decision will more than likely effect cheerleading at all levels I needed to chime in with one last thing but please keep in mind I can only reference the high school level.

    One final note, the majority of the cheerleaders I had the opportunity to know had grade point averages above 3.5 (guaranteed) and carried a minimum of two AP classes and very successful in their endeavors. Just in case you are thinking this, believe it or not none of them are modeling or working at trade shows. My daughter is currently seeking her Pharmacy degree full time and at the same time is one of Home Depot's youngest Department Heads full time and is in line to have an opportunity to be one of their youngest assistant managers if she chooses. I definitely attribute at least part of her success to the discipline and team work that Chris taught as her coach at RB High School.

    Sincerely,
    A Cheerleader's Father

  • In reply to kirby:

    girls cheering for boys i do not like, i do competitive cheerleading for 13 years now and i did one year of school cheer and absolutely HATEDDDD IT because like you said your cheering for boys and now a days boys think they are the best thing in the world so having girls cheer for them isnt making it better but they cant cheer at girls games because how i was told by the school that i went to was that it was because the cheerleaders might be playing the game they are suppose to be cheering for

  • In reply to AshleyBond:

    Your ignorance is overwhelming. Clearly you don't know anything about cheerleading and you never bothered to read the actual decision and its implications. Shouldn't you research a topic before blasting forth with an uneducated and uninformed opinion?

    This sad little blog is representative of the increasingly failing writing standards of the Tribune company and not worthy of a detailed response.

  • In reply to sarahmas:

    Thanks for your contribution, I really appreciate it. Just so you know, I wasn't showing the pictures to defend the video. They were completely different items. They were just two representations proving that cheering in general isn't a sport.

    It's not the Tribune that's failing, it must be our education system because I am a professor at a local university and have advanced degrees in business and journalism.

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    In reply to kirby:

    Oh give me a break. You're such a jealous wannabe.

  • In reply to kirby:

    Cheerleading is a real sport and it takes real people to do it how do we know your not a robot........ Everyone knows only Robots dont like Cheerleading.!

  • In reply to joeyates:

    By your definition, picking up girls at a nightclub is a sport. 1) you're competing with other guys. 2) you can strike out, get a number, get a date, or seal the deal. 3) you can tell a girl that some other guy after her is married or if he's a friend you can pull out an embarrassing photo of him on your phone.

  • In reply to seldon913:

    Hari - Your argument is why cheerleading is not a sport. Foolish justification!

  • In reply to joeyates:

    Amen Joey! I was reading the article and the responses. People must educate themselves to the difference between an athletic activity and a sport. Your 3 tenents were absolutely on the nose, spot on! There isn't any objective (key word) scoring, nor does cheerleading have a season as defined by the NCAA.

    Thank you for bringing some logic and rationality to this discussion.

  • In reply to joeyates:

    Competitive cheerleading is a sport. I can't do half the crap that those girls do on ESPNu. Despite being scantily-clad, you have to be very athletic, which in turn makes you look really pretty.

  • In reply to joeyates:

    Do none of the people insisting that cheerleading is a sport understand the concept of "OBJECTIVE SCORING"? Good gravy. I know that cheerleading teams get scores for doing certain acts or tricks. Fine, however, don't they have a score for "style"?

    Cheerleading as a sport defenders, please explain how scoring for "style" is objective?

    Did Michael Jordan get extra points for a really good dunk? NO

    Do No-Hitter pitchers get an extra point for not having anyone hit his pitches? NO

    Does Serena Williams get an extra point for wearing a "better outfit" than her opponent? NO

    If an activity uses "style" as part of its scoring, than it is not a sport. Period.

  • In reply to Isaiahb3:

    Great point(s)! Love them!

  • In reply to joeyates:

    I agree Joey. Made me laugh out loud.

  • In reply to kirby:

    Score for style? Not so much.

    Here's a look at how the scorecard breaks out for the UCA National Collegiate Cheerleading Championship...
    http://ipaperus.ipaperus.com/Varsity/UCA/2010UCAUDACOLNTLS/?Page=19

    Stunts - 70 points
    -Execution 40 pts
    -Difficulty 30 pts

    Overall Performance - 30 points
    -Transitions 10 points (creativity, how it's integrated with stunting/tumbling/dance/etc.)
    -Overall Effect 10 points (choreography, tumbling, etc.)
    -Showmanship 10 points (energy level, pace, etc.)

    Even if you want to argue that showmanship is "style" (which it isn't), anyone with an understanding of basic mathematics can clearly see that the scoring is weighted most heavily on the components that require athleticism, endurance and skills.

    Again...this goes back with how you define cheerleading...and I'm looking at it from the All-Star level.

  • In reply to RunningJayhawk:

    And even at the all star level cheerleading is not a sport. SUBJECTIVE SCORING! And, by the way, your opponent isn't on the court with you so's not it's not competitive and your "opponent" can't impact your ability to score!

  • In reply to joeyates:

    This is your only good point. My cheer coach even agrees with this. However, just because it isn't "officially" a sport, doesn't mean it shouldn't be treated with the equal respect as one. Athletes are athletes.

  • In reply to ChandaBear:

    Just because a person is athletic dosen't mean anything they do is a sport.

  • In reply to joeyates:

    Nonsense. There you go again creating random definitions from your own subconscious that has nothing to do with any real definition.

  • In reply to joeyates:

    same for gymnastics, your opponent isn't there on the floor with you, your being SUBJECTIVELY SCORED but yet gymnastics is in the Olympics and is a sport

  • In reply to RunningJayhawk:

    Thank YOU!!!!

  • In reply to RunningJayhawk:

    sure, you have a point.. those pictures show plenty of evidence as to cheerleading not being a sport, but over all the only outlook your having on it is negitive. cheerleaders who barely wear any clothing and stand around showing off parts of their body to get attetion obvioiusly shouldn't be considered athletes. but the ones who spend hours and days on end, perfecting their tumbling or getting a stunt should. more people get paralyzed in 1 month of cheerleading than 1 year of football, and people call that a sport. cheerleaders run, dance, jump, dance, fall; they do it all. when a girl(or boy) are flying through the air with no support under them, just hoping someone will be there to catch them, you can't say they aren't giving it their all. a sport is defined as a physical activity that determines detication, team work, and independence. detication- being at a practice for hours. team work- if one person's missing, the whole squad is effected. independence- you are responsible for your actions and to participate. cheerleaders have the decency to respect sports other people do, why is there so much contriversy over this? you can have your own opinion but i can gaurentee if you go to any team cheer practice, you would be amazed on hard they work. it's not all about having a pretty face, great hair, and winning homecoming queen. what matters, is what you can bring to the squad and how good you are. there are tryouts, just like anyother sport. only the best are placed on the squad. don't get me wrong, you are entitled to your opinion but before judging "a book by it's cover or a sport by it's picture", just remember, there are plenty of people out there who deticate their lives to this sport and work their butts off to be as amazing as they are and to gain respect from people like you who can't even look on the positive side of what they love.

  • In reply to suckmyweenie:

    1st - your tag name speaks loudly! About you! I've never responded very negatively to a response to my views but I will now, "you're ignorant"! Please forward a picture so that it can be submitted to Webster to accompany the definition of IDIOT!
    2nd - Your 3 counter points to my definition are idiotic! No need for me to try and explain how idiotic they are, because you wouldn't understand!
    Please, Please, don't breed! One of you is all that the human race can tolerate!

  • In reply to joeyates:

    listen dude theres no need to be rude. i was just stating my opinion, if you can't accept that, GET OFF THIS PAGE. please and thank you.

  • In reply to joeyates:

    Cheer is a sport, football throws balls. baseball hits balls. basketball makes balls go through hoops. CHEER THROWS ACTUAL BODIES IN THE AIR!

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  • In reply to joeyates:

    first off schoool cheer is ABSOLUTLY NOT a sport and it should stay that way cuz they dont do shit! ive been one, i have been doing competitive cheerleading for 13 years and if you say what i do everyday for at least 5 hrs a day is not a sport then you can go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLywEkle984 this web site, pleaseee watch the wholeee thing and maybe this will change your mind, competitive cheerleading is nothing the like the stereo typical bullshit that school cheerleaders have, this is the most DANGEROUS sport, which has been proven! look at how detailed and esentric every little detail is in a routine like this, i agree that the younger levels like levels 1, 2 and 3 are more just for fun, but once you get to level 5, its your life, this is my life, just like anyone has a passion so deeply for something, a lot of girls have a passion for cheerleading, it has helped me threw so many different things, its not about looking good or anything like that its the skill and the heart that you have to put your all out on that competition floor, not breathing for 2.5 min doing things most of the world cant do, spinning and flipping at the same time throwing girls in the air, we do more dangerous things everyday then most would do in a life time, if you dont use the technique you were taught then you will fall and hurt your self. you learn so much self discipline and respect for your coaches and others its incredible, dont you DARE say what i do is not a sport, the only reason it is not considered a sport is because there are not enough regulations and it isnt organized enough yet, but seriously one day it will be, because we risk our asses everyday at practice doing what we do more than 3/4ths of the world does in everyday life

  • In reply to meganthefierce1:

    Maybe if you would have been on a good team and actually won you would feel differently.

  • In reply to meganthefierce1:

    I have said it before, but this level 10 gymnast doesn't think cheerleading is a sport. Wanna try a real dangerous sport?.... Try tumbling on a balance beam. Wanna talk about spinning and twisting?.... Try an uneven bar routine. Just because you have to be able to do a 'tuck back' doesny make you some world class athlete.

    Try standing alone on a balance beam in front of a huge crowd, on national tv, all by yourself, and then tumble down it.. I'd like to see how well you would do.

    Cheerleading and gymnastics are not even close to being on the same level.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    try doing a back tuck onto someones hands not a beam that doesnt move.

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    i have done partner stunts before... they are not that difficult.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    some. while others get kinda crazy. and i have been a gymnast. i have done the balance beam and the uneven bars. i have done it all. and cheerleaders do individuals too. know how it feels.

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    Now I only did a couple of camp classes and a few seminars on partner stunts so my knowledge isn't the most advanced on the subject. I do remember thinking, when I was doing work with a partner, that he was the one doing all the work. I felt all I had to do was point my toes and stretch poses and handstands I do anyway.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    sometimes yes but when doing tricks onto them and off it becomes a different story. standing on them can be easy unless you do a hard trick to get up and have nothing to stand on.

  • In reply to joeyates:

    Try competitive cheer just once and i bet you will change your mind before the practice is over.

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    Try real gymnastics... You will change YOUR mind in abbot 15 minutes.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    i have done real gymnastics. and i never said gymnastics wasnt a sport. i think gymnastics is just as much a sport as cheerleading.

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    I never said you said gymnastics isn't a sport.

    Frankly, if that is someone's opinion of gymnastics that really isn't any of my business. People are completely welcome not to like the activities I participate in.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    and they are able to not like mine but to go on the internet and start crap that isnt true is what gets to me. as it would you if i started talking crap about gymnastics that isnt true.

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    Ok.

  • In reply to cheertwin:

    Kirby, I have a photograph I would love to send you... How would I do that?

  • In reply to suckmyweenie:

    great comment

  • In reply to Isaiahb3:

    Again, another misinformed person. You do not get points for style. You get points for the overall choreography and how clean it was I/E how well executed it was. Just like a Gymnast or Diver. We also don't get judged on our uniforms,it's really just for fun. There is one oregon collegiate team that competed in shorts and shirts all season last year and constitently won, because all of the girls had amazing skills.

    The objective scoring is really the only reason why it isn't technically a sport.

  • In reply to Isaiahb3:

    So Gymnastics, Olympic Diving, and Figure Skating are not sports? Get out of here.

  • In reply to Isaiahb3:

    So do you know what "style" in cheerleading means? Do you consider gymnastics a sport because they also have a "style" score. It is not about how you look in the uniform. All I have to say for you is that you are uneducated.

  • In reply to Isaiahb3:

    I am a cheerleader myself and we are scored based on style because we don't go back and forth with a team or play offense and defense. We are scored the same way BMXers or skateboarders or people in the olympics are. Since I'm assuming you're a guy, I can also assume that you think snowboarding, skateboarding, and BMX are sports. THEY ARE SCORED THE SAME WAY AS CHEERLEADING! And before anybody makes any more ignorant comments, why don't you try being on a competitive cheerleading squad for a whole cheer season and let me know how well you do.

  • In reply to Isaiahb3:

    theres no STYLE section on the score sheet, its called execution, how we execute our stunts or tumbling, if your not on the same timing as everyone you get points off that part of the score sheet... being sharp and walking with your arms tight by your side with a smile on your face, and being on time with everyone else... we dont get judged on our outfits for looking better or anything like that... we dont get extra points for the way we look, we do it for show, just how dancers look for show and their outfits, it just to make us more unified looking so that when the judges are watching us the timing of everything looks perfect

  • In reply to meganthefierce1:

    andddd watch this whole thing....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLywEkle984

  • In reply to Isaiahb3:

    amen to that. :)

  • In reply to joeyates:

    on cheerleadings side of this,
    1.) there are thousands of cheer competitions each year held for thousands the , even millions of squads that do compete.
    2.) in cheer competitions, unless you are a complete idiot, you would notice that they get a SCORE, their objective is to get a perfect score by their judges. just like gymnastics which is considered a sport.
    3.) cheerleaders impact their opponents score by making their own better.

  • In reply to RunningJayhawk:

    Totally agree!

  • In reply to RunningJayhawk:

    I agree with awesome Barb.

  • In reply to CandyQueen:

    read the other comments because believe it is sport

  • In reply to RunningJayhawk:

    Yes, you are correct. SIDE-LINE cheerleading, is indeed NOT a sport. I just don't believe that standing there waving your arms is a sport. BUT, competition cheerleading IS a sport. It takes a TON of skill, dedication, and strength to flip and throw girls into the air while smiling and being organized.

  • In reply to abbycutie87:

    side-line cheerleaders do tumbling at games though too and work hard, Lets just say the whole thing is a sport.

  • You're right gymnastic is not a sport it's an activity, along with swimming, golf, diving, ice skating, etc. The Olympics

  • In reply to joeyates:

    You're right gymnastic is not a sport it's an activity, along with swimming, golf, diving, ice skating, etc. The Olympics

  • In reply to joeyates:

    By every definition you are flat out wrong. Because something is called a "game" it's not a sport now? Because it's called a basketball or baseball (or whatever) game, that would make them not sports?

  • In reply to DBCOOPER888:

    Again you're showing your lack of knowledge with this issue. Cheerleading became a

  • In reply to DBCOOPER888:

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  • In reply to DBCOOPER888:

    Your pictures do not show the competitive All Star side of it. I have two girls that cheer. It IS a sport!! Google competitive cheer and reconsider what you posted. Or better yet, go into a cheer facility and try to do what they do- it will kick your butt!!!

  • In reply to MichelleC:

    Just because it's hard to do and because you work up a sweat does not make it a sport! Dancing with the Stars is a sport based on your comments. You can't "impact" your opponents ability to score nor is there objective scoring! Let me help you, if someone has to "Judge" and announce the scoring it's not a sport! And, before someone

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    In reply to joeyates:

    Definition of a Sport
    Noun: An activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others.

    Well dont you look at that, Competitive cheerleading fits right into that.

  • In reply to joeyates:

    its a sport read my comment somewhere at the bottom and the other ones to. It is a sport so dont say otherwise

  • In reply to joeyates:

    i just read the first thing you said and its wrong ITS IN THE OLYMPICS! ITS A SPORT

  • Ok. Stop comparing cheerleaders and gymnast. It is like comparing security guards and police officers.

    I was a level 10 gymnast and I have never seen a cheerleader do anything tougher than a level 6 move. P,us they don't deal with bars, vault or beam. The money, time and energy that goes into cheerleading does not come close to what real gymnast do.

  • In reply to Xizora:

    shut up about gymnastics and go find a gymnastics argument to argue. obviously you dont like cheerleading but i have done both and very well know that cheerleading is just as hard as gymnastics. so get over it.

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    In reply to Xizora:

    you just got me mad okay. Cheerleading is a sport and is just as hardworking and as physically demanding as gymnastics. i may have not have tried gymnastics but i have a cousin that does level 10 gymnastics and still finds the time to do competitive cheerleading as well as i do competitive cheerleading . And even she tells me she think cheerleading is more harder because its longer hours at the gym and so what if you have beam and uneaven bars we have stunts that basicly makes up for everything else gymnastics is hard and so is cheerleading so go and leave you have your sport already a certified sport were just trying to get ours

  • In reply to Xizora:

    Cheerleading and gymnastics ARE NOT the same thing. Guess what? Gymnasts don't deal with stunts, facials, dances, and jumps. Who cares if we don't have a vault? YOU don't have stunts, either. I'm a high school competitive cheerleader and I just landed my full. Ever heard of Kiara Nowlin? The best junior power tumbler in the nation? Yeah, she's a cheerleader. AN ALL STAR CHEERLEADER. A girl just quit Level 8 gymnastics for our cheerleading team and she's struggling to catch up with the rest of us. So guess what? YOU haven't met every cheerleader in the nation, nor in the rest of the world, and yes, we compete internationally. It's called Worlds, go look it up.

  • Saying Cheerleading isn't a sport is bullshit. I have NEVER done cheer in my life and I used to think cheerleading was some stupid sport until one of my closest friends became a competitive cheerleader out of the blue. I went to one of her practices and I was blown away. No way in the world I would be able to do the things that they do. I hear that girl talk about how in gymnastics its harder, WELL, gymnastics is harder than football, basketball, and baseball all combined. You can't compare. But if you think some football player can waltz in and be an All Star cheerleader then you are dead wrong.

    I think the reason why so many of you are pissed off is because of their outfits(which only applies to NFL cheerleaders and dumb pom pom girls). Like someone said before, volleyball players wear skimpier clothing than cheerleaders. I know this because I AM A VOLLEYBALL PLAYER! Half of the girls I know wear spandex that looks like speedos! But of course it isn't bad because we aren't wearing skirts, right? Or what about Beach Volleyball players? They wear frickin' bikinis but that isn't as bad as what cheerleaders wear is it?

    Face it, either you guys are bitter or haven't experienced real cheerleading.

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    Tell me again, how is comeptitve cheerleading not a sport. But dancing is? That makes no secne, cheerleaders are athletes, I've been a cheerleader for years, and I've done nothing but work my butt off for competitive titles of 1st place. Defintion of a Sport: An activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others. Oh, would you look at that, cheerleading fits right in there just lovely. It takes skill to be a cheerleader, you have to be able to jump out of your safe zone to do dangerous stunts and tumbling, requiring massive amounts of skill.

  • This whole thing is crazy!. Cheerleading is absolutely a sport. I have done it for 6 years and we work our butts off. Some schools don't take it seriously and just do it to wear the short skirts, But there are so many girls who spend all their time cheering. Girls can get paralized from the most simple stunts.

  • i am completely offended by this article. theres a difference between sideline cheerleaders and competitive cheerleaders. sideline cheerleaders are only there to keep the crowd going and do nothing whatsoever. on the other hand, competitive cheerleaders work so hard just to do a 2 minute and 30 second routine that takes MONTHS to perfect. people always say cheerleading isnt a sport, i want to see them try to do HALF of the things we do. competitive cheerleading takes a lot of dedication and hard work just to get where they want to be. the pictures posted on this article are basically showing sideline cheerleaders that dont do anything but look good.

  • In reply to elitecheerleaderxo:

    your right and even though we keep the crowd going at games, we work hard and do tumbling at the games too. try doing a standing back tuck on the hard ground at football games! cheerleaders work hard and cheerleading is a sport

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    After you work as hard as my team, and all other cheer teams do, then you can come back and tell me that it is not a sport. I can promise you, that you would not be able to do half the stuff cheerleaders can.

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    Im sorry you look at the bare minimum of this sport. You don't look beyond sidelines. There is two different worlds of cheerleading. Ive been a cheerleader all my life, I have won the NCA the second biggest competition there is out there and place 16 our of 82 and 5 out of 40 some teams in the LARGEST competition. If you can look at those picture why not search of some real cheerleading. Go look up top gun at worlds, or Caili all stars. Don't go saying its not a sport when you only have one very narrow view on what you think cheerleading is. I challenge you to open your mind and look up some teams at Worlds in Florida and if you can serious tell me we don't risk our lives every day we step out on to that mat, then you are very narrow and closed minded. Cheerleading is the fastest growing sport, we produce the most injuries, you need to be in the most top physical condition to do what we do. I also challenge you to step into a all star gym and try doing what they do because ill bet anything you can't do what a all star team does.

  • In reply to Jessica Van Keuren:

    what you said is so true. Were strong, hard workers. cheerleading is a sport.

  • All ya'll don't know what your talking about! Cheer is a sport i don't care what you think! Last time i checked you probably cant even do a cartwheel or an elevator. So next time you have something to say about cheerleading say it to me.

  • Cheerleading isn't a sport? Try lifting someone above your head and keep them sturdy while they twist their body in pretzel forms and smile at the same time. Try throwing a person into the air and watch them spin a couple times and then catch them. Try looping your hands together like a basket and then throw them high enough to touch the sky. Try getting hit, slaped, kicked, elbowed, kneed, and then you just shake it off because you have to keep going. Break a couple arms and legs ans still push yourself to keep going. Stay up late to practice to make yourself better. Sweat so much because you have been doing back tucks, front tucks, back handsprings, front handsprings, fulls, and even when you run out of sweat and breath, you keep going. Try building your strength up untill you pass out, but you get back up and do it again. Cry, bleed, get brusies. Do all that and then tell me cheerleading is not a sport. My mom knew Cheerleaders and right now they are Lawyers, doctors, and more. Cheerleading is more then it seems. If you don't know a lot about cheerleading then don't say it is not a sport. try going to a cheerleading practice at a gym were they do their competition routine over and over for 2 to 3 or more hours and add in a lot of tumbling. Trust me Cheerleading is a sport.

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    wow rude!!!!! its insulting to cheerleaders like me. your just jelouse that u cant do it and we can and right you did loss alot aof fans. stop insulting and get a loife i wanna see u do the splites or toe touches or holding other people in the air etc.. u try it.

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    lady got some problems

  • this is by far the MOST ANNOYING AND INFANTILE DISCUSSION I HAVE EVER READ ON A WEB PAGE IN MY ENTIRE LIFE. The Pro Cheerleaders are noxious. Especially this Cheertwin... nothing like a convoluted circular argument with a hint... no, a ton of bitchiness (which yes- does intact symbolize the sport- just go to your local high school- where cheerleaders are bred and introduced to their peers.. 99% will say they think cheerleaders are ANNOYING AS HELL)... you've SO obviously been dropped on the head repetidly. I do not believe crap about your apparent "gymnastic skill". How are we supposed to take credibly some bimbo looking, mini skirt wearing AND CROTCH FLASHING, smiling, overly make up applying, child themed bow wearing, thing... which moves so harshly- its similar to badly planned robot themed "2:30" minute routines.

    Now- You CLEARLY have anger management issues, and are clearly dramatic. and have some kind of emotional/ psychotic attachment to needing cheerleading to be a sport. Let that fucker go and just enjoy what you do for Christ's sake... Do you even enjoy it at all? I think you just enjoy being a "pretty bitch- that everyone is apparently so jealous of".... NO dumbass, you SICKEN us.

    Everytime I try to change my opinion about cheerleaders- stuff like this happens...

    For your information I am a professional athlete at a difficult and extremely, reliably painful sport which I will not disclose to you for you are a PSYCO. I work out for the majority of the day (the exact hours I will not disclose because you will say something exceedingly ignoramus. No doubt as of now you are formulating your cute bow on top highly make upped- harisprayed haughty little reply)

    YOU PEOPLE ON HERE NEED TO ACCEPT IN THE SLIGHTEST WAY THAT HOW YOU ACT REPULSES PEOPLE IN A DEEP WAY.

    and no- ATTACKING ME WILL NOT CURE THE OFFENSE TO YOUR SAD LITTLE SEEKING EGO.. THAT CRIES LIKE A SPOILED CHILD "BUT I WANT CHEERLEADING TO BE A SPORT WA- FUCKIN WA."

    if someone said the sport which I have dedicated my sweat, and blood to, my 4 surgeries.... my heart break and triumphs, my dreams.... was not a sport.. (the thing which I do is all GUTS so no one would dare even say that once about my sport!!! they've never said it at all- I'm just going to dangle that in front of you all.)--- I would not be all pissy and bitchy/ weak... I would JUST DO IT...

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    hey bit** check it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg_G3-R2Q00 .. you try doing it.

  • haha- my god, good morning chicago... My heart goes out to the people on here who have tried to make good arguments (on either side... mostly cheerleading is not a sport... the cheerleader's arguments are DISMAL). Holy God, does it really take that much brain power to not personally attack people right away.... if they say something you don't like about you, PROVE THEM WRONG. Don't do exactly what they think you're going to do... (thankyou.... for naively prooving your opposition right). The sad thing is you don't even realize how catty you come off... completely catty... like a group of narcissistic girls in a high school.... omg wait...!!!!
    If you want to argue you need to state and restate your argument and get into technical information WITHOUT using inflammatory language (most cheerleaders on here are incapable).

    For AN example since some are so obviously at a basic understanding on how not to be pathetic/ personally attacking/ catty bitch/ nimrod during an argument:

    1. state argument
    2. state your position !!! (what could THAT be?!?!!!!)
    3. technical information
    4. technical information + argument
    5. find unique things about each position
    5.5 detail technically unique things.

    notice there is no bitch out your opponent section! You will find this is a bad way to do things... This is why you fail... people don't want to acknowledge cheerleading as a sport because cheerleaders 9/10 cannot go without personally attacking/ annoying their opponent where 1 is or something is supposed to be...

    so go ahead personally attack me... You're just proving me right!!!!! Yes- I'm writing this about your character but you have been behaving badly and I'm addressing it. Really nasty... Just unacceptable.

    now, that I feel I have redeemed the headaches of the people making good arguments on here...

    If you pick at my spelling - you're an idiot- I could go through and spell check this if I wasn't learning languages and training and getting a 4.0 with my 18 hours and not being a cheerleader and not being a cheerleader and not being a cheerleader!!! (yes I know sure... Dr. Evil was once a cheerleader too and he's not stupid!!!!... I'm WAITING!!! :D... go on and say something like that... It'll be so cute!!!)

    If you pick at my logic- I'll just get some popcorn. But oh wait!! I have a life and I don't care what some nimrod thinks... who instead of thinking tries to just piss on everyone else!!! Make a logical argument (that cheerleading is a sport etc...) and if I return to this site- which I will likely not.... I may read it.... If you're going to be nasty you're only going to prove me correct!!!!

    If you pick at my character- I'm sarcastic..... sarcastic people are everywhere... we have "senses of humor" ... there are more sarcastic people than cheerleaders... we've got you outnumbered. wrap your head around what I'm saying but I really doubt you'll get it

    Grow some chest hair.

    Your psychotic competitiveness and strange attitude distance you from other athletes. Now I'm going to be nice- and give you a plan- that I would take if I was a cheerleader myself- you can read what I say and cry about it, become angry and keep believing people are so jealous of you (no ho ho!!!)...( I used to model with top agencies in New York and LA when I was 16... I got paid very well... I'm "attractive"... everywhere I go men stare at me... I am not jealous of you... I don't know in what universe I would be...)

    or infact- you can accept in even the slightest way that people perceive cheerleaders as a bit of an anti feminist annoyance. With a duplicitous nature and catty, pompous attitude... because this is VALID. There ARE many of you that act this way. Accept it and improve, listen and discover... ignore and live the narcissistic lie...

    if you want cheerleading to be a sport in everyone's eyes- behave like someone who isn't so damn pathetic... I for one.... have very little respect for cheerleaders. Yes yes, all their dangerous work... it doesn't set you apart. DEAL WITH IT... Lots of sports are very dangerous... You try to make yours so monolithic.. it reveals how you see yourself you know... Quite limited in brain resources. As so many perceive you to be... Do you really think stereotypes are there because there is absolutely no hint of truth to them? People just make all that up...

    And even if it is some kind of conspiracy of jealousy against all of you ANGELS..... What they hell are you going to do about it?! Complain?!?!?! That's what you're doing all over this page...

    But go ahead... don't listen to me... make your catty little arguments... try to stab me a little... that's what you always feel you need to do...

    This is a dose of hard medicine to you. The reality of your world. Take it. Read it. It exists. Deny it and you're a fool. If you don't like me personally- which by this point I'm laughing at you... go read some sociology about cheerleaders.... Your sport is a sham. Amplify the good things and perfect it... Be haughty and offended and continue to "argue"

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    look whos talking..

  • Ok- before I leave- I need to clarify my position on cheerleading- it has potential to be a sport. But its not quite there yet, it needs to be organized better and it needs to be planned out to be more of a focused effort.

    That is my opinion even after reading nearly all the posts above... and clearly... unless you give me an argument that doesn't use inflammatory/ attacking language as I stated above, I and people like me won't pay attention.

    If you want to play with the big leagues, you've got to have the attitude of the guys in the big leagues. No bullshit.

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    Wow, you are BEYOND IGNORANT. First of all, you completely biased your platform by showing pictures that could only be misconstrued as either slutty, or common mistakes. A simply overlooked spelling error, really? You're going to call them on that? Well, I suppose when I find an overlooked typo in a world renowned magazine that I should call them out as morons? As for the girl looking up the others skirt- it is called "spotting", how is she going to catch her teammate if she's not looking up at her? As for the little clothing, have you looked around you lately? This is now a society where it seems that less is more. You won't see me dressing like that but, you can't just fault cheerleaders for it either. These girls work long hard hours lifting weights and keeping their bodies in fit shape. Their routines include just as much tumbling as a gymnastics floor exercise in some cases.

    Honestly, I think the saddest part of all about your argument is that you are too wrapped up in your own issues about cheerleading that, you did not even want to support your own daughters participation and are too selfish to have enjoyed it but, "bit your lip the whole time". Grow up.

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    i completely agree with belle!!! i played every sport you could think of, including cheerleading. i talked one of my best friends into being mascot. she did it because she was stubborn and didn't agree with me that cheering was a sport. i set out to prove her wrong. we worked out everyday at practice. we practiced long hours mon through sat. we worked REALLY hard. we won every competition we went to. at the end of the season, my friend turned around her thoughts on cheerleaders being silly little girls. we are athletes. i now coach at the local middle school and am trying to prove to everyone there the same thing.

  • Looks to me like your a little insecure.You must have been a loser in highschool to be putting down Cheerleading like this. That actually sounds like something someone would do in Elementary School. You obviously know NOTHING about Cheerleading and you have your opinion and I have mine. I'll keep this short BUT you're a real first class BITCH.<3

  • In reply to LacilyLoo:

    What a nice, classy cheerleader you must be. I'm pretty sure I don't need to provide a rebuttal, your comment speaks volumes.

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    In reply to kirby:

    She is sticking up for what she loves. So yeah. I would do the same thing.

  • In reply to Chloe Robinson:

    I agree. It seems that when marching band members and gymnasts throw fits against cheerleading being a sport, no one tends to point out grammar errors and direct insults.

  • In reply to LacilyLoo:

    If anyone is insecure it's you. Kirby never said anything rude about cheerleaders, e.g. they're dumb, fat etc all she said is that it isn't a sport. When someone overreacts like you do it's a sign that you feel and/or believe cheerleading is inferior in some way. Why do you think that is? Ballet is physical but is not a sport. Cheerleading isn't even dancing, it borrows a bit from gymnastics and modern dance and just waving arms around. You should apologise.

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    wow.looks like someone doesnt mind standing there dressed like a stripper clapping and shouting yay. and sry, but u posting a comment like that means u r the loser hiding behind your computer.and if u aren't even in high school, you'll learn that the cheerleaders arent the popular ones.the real athletes are. so, sry, but kirby never said anything mean about cheerleaders.she stated her opinion and i'm gonna state mine: cheerleading isn't a sport, and the bitch.

  • and your the bitch^^^ wow that was smooth :p

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    Hi, I'm not trying to be rude but cheerleading is a sport. So, all of you sexist people saying it's not...then you're wrong. Just because those pictures shiow them doing stupid things, it doesn't prove cheerleading isn't a sport, all it shows is you are looking for cheerleasers who messed up. You probably googled that and took pictures that had something to do with your little post. Also, half of those pictures (I don't know if you know) but the santa claus girl (blue uniform) isn't a cheerleader, she's a dancer along with all the innapropriate uniforms. It's an NFL game so obviously they are going to just just a little skanky. Anyway, since you have so much time on your hands to google those pictures, you should go on google and type in cheer extreme, or maryland twisters, world cup all stars, or east celebrity elite, because that is a sport right there! Between stunting, tumbling, dancing everything...how could you not throw up? I'd like to see you try that because you have no idea how much work, practice and effort us cheerleaders put in to this SPORT. and actually it is a sport. Wanna know why? Because you can get scholarships for this sport. So I would shut your mouth it was actually PROVED a sport. Thank You.

  • In reply to Chloe Robinson:

    wow.i've read some of your comments and seen your profile pic. u look 13 and seem like u have a lot of anger. and sry but u r being rude. u annoying cheerleaders can say wat u want.but that video proves that cheerleading isnt a sport.and i would like to point out u mentioned dancing, which by the way u could've just said dancing, cause thats wat stunting and tumbling is. since cheerleading is dancing, and apparently to u cheerleading is a sport, shouldn't they call dancing a sport?but guess wat, they don't. dancing= form of art, cheerleading=dancing, so cheerleading=form of art, not a sport. so, first off, burrnn. second off, u can shut your mouth. and p.s, just because u get scholarships from cheerleading doesn't prove it's a sport, so sry.your back to stage one.

  • It is because of people like you that cheerleading has its stereotype. I don't know where you're sending your girls that they learned a cheer like that, but pull them out because whoever taught them that is a disgrace to cheerleading. As you've seen, these stereotypes do exist. Just like there are groups that prove every other stereotype as well.

    You should really become more educated before making such drastic accusations. I was an all star cheerleader for 8 years and never once did I see anything like in those pictures. Know the difference between slutty "cheer teams" for the NFL - which are actually dance teams, sideline cheerleaders, and competitive cheerleaders. Do NOT confuse any of these with eachother or lump them into the same category. All star teams practice year round, up to 5 times a week for 2-3 hours, are often times required to take additional tumbling classes, and attend many competitions throughout their seasons. Maybe you should try this before running your mouth about something you are clearly not educated on.

    What is the definition of a sport by the way? Since you are arguing cheerleading doesn't fit the definition? According to the Oxford English Dictionary, a sport is "an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment." Cheerleading requires physical exertion and skill. For all star, you are on a team that competes against others. And you are entertaining an audience along the way. Sorry but which part does cheerleading not apply to?

    People like this are actually extremely rude and dumb for believing and spreading this stereotype. And "clapping for boys" is the underlying theme? I don't recall once clapping for a boy during my routine.

    P.S.- What a classy blog for a grown woman with children...

  • You singled out the worst pictures possible. Most NFL cheerleading squads are not even cheerleaders. They are just dancers labeled with the wrong name which are usually the ones who shows off their cleavage, butt and use sex appeal to get the crowds attention. I go to a college where I am on the competitive cheerleading squad and we do everything that Co-Ed university squads do WITHOUT the males. Try telling me I'm not an athlete for holding girls up in the air the same way a guy could because I would love to know what evidence you have to back your argument up.

  • lier yes it is!!!!!!!! :P

  • yes it is because you have to show up to practice,it's just like football you have to go though plays and stuff like that no you don't tackle people but you do pick up people so it kinda is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Interesting this debate is continuing as we are so close to 2012 Superbowl. Hopefully we won't see cheerleaders at this one either.

    The superbowl last year had the highest ratings ever correct? So basically the sport doesn't need them.

    Kirby has a point - if non pro-sports teams want to be taken seriously then why not call it something else?

    Also not living in the US I just don't get it? Why have cheerleaders at all? No other countries have them and the sports teams in school, university, professional level do fine.

  • In reply to JosieSmith:

    After receiving negative comments every week since this was first published, I just have to say, I think I love you JosieSmith.

  • I COMPLETLY AGREE! Cheer leading a a joke of a sport that just gives these so called "popular" and "pretty" girls a reason to make others that do not meet their very strict standards feel inferior and like outcasts! You cheerleaders, how would YOU feel if you walked up to a cheerleader, said a friendly hello, and be laughed at and made fun of? It is NOT fun, at all. Cheer leading is, I realize, a competitor sport, but I do not recall in the description s

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    Special treatment! Yes, you may not realize it, but these girls and boys recieve special treatment, just for doing cartwheels and waving Pom poems around! How pathetic! Cheer leading will get these students NO WHERE in life! What will? ACADEMICS! The original sole purpose of school! Acadmeic teams, Science Olympiad teams, Beta Club, Physics Club, History Club, etc! These teams get NO CREDIT for all of the unnoticed hours they put in! The countless hours of hard work, memorization, and deep studying! And they don't even expect any reward! They know they won't, because Sports are taking up all of the attention! Now, ask youself, which will help you in college, being able to wave a Pom Pom and do flips in the air, or actually learning about subjects such as science and having a better time in college pursing your CAREER! Cheer leading is a joke of a sport, and Academic teams and clubs are left unheard because of "sports" as this.

  • In reply to angelfaye123:

    uh EVERYONE can be a cheerleader.. bigger taller shorter skinnier we ever have teams for disabilities who perform we have adorable little girls and old women and men teams anyone can be one but its not easy and you complaining that its not a sport is why you can talk to cheer leaders im not the most popular even the prettiest girl and im a cheerleader and everybody one the team is a family we can help nobody gives us a chance STEREOTYPER. sorry but movies dont do cheerleaders justice

  • oh.. sweetheart you have much to learn. Fan's in the crowd are all at the games because... You want to see them dominate the football field... and win the football game. Well, then it's up to each and every one of us cheerleaders to help them. We got to raise them up. We got to hoist them high... to put them on a platform of positivity. Any fool can feel good when you're winning. But when you're down several points in the fourth quarter. you got to ask yourself, Who you gonna call. I tell you who I'm going to call, and that's Cheerleaders. And Ijust want to say watch a WORLDS cheerleading competition see how much time and effort put into those 2 minutes and 30 seconds of routine. And yes cheerleading does help in college it teaches you muscle training for sports, patients, responsibility. And don't say we are as retarded as those made up photos cause last time i checked im a sideline cheerleader and a competitive cheerleader and im trying to get into MIT for engineering so we aren't stupid like you stereotypers. Cheerleading isn't a sport? Try lifting someone above your head and keep them sturdy while they twist their body in pretzle forms and smile at the same time. Try throwing a person into the air watch then spin a couple times and catch them. Looping your hands together like a basket and throw them high enough they can touch the sky. Getting hit, slapped, kicked, elbowed, kneed, and shake it off because you have to keep going. Stay up late to practice to make yourself better, sweat so much because your doing tucks, back hand springs, fulls, and even when you run out of sweat you keep going you build you strength up until you pass out, but you get back up and do it again. Cry, bleed, get bruises. Then tell me cheerleading is not a sport.

  • Okay you clearley dont know what your talking about cauz cheerleading IS A SPORT. It has nothing to do with boys cauz here are TONS of boys on my team and It does not make a difffrence. Im sorry U hated the sport but this is a sport and It TRULLLEY is so if you belive me or not y have to know ut is a sot. REAL cheerleaders go to compitions and they throw echothere up in the air.. ALLLL I KNOW ias thata it is a sport. CHEERLEADING IS A SPORT!!!!!

  • excuse me? cheer is a sport, actully its the most dangerous woman's sports in america. i may be 13, but i know that it is. i have been a cheerleader scince 2006. it has a uniform and its cometetive. hence, its a sport. so thanks for trying, but your wrong.

  • ok. cheerleading isn't a sport ppl. everyone who keeps saying "oh, it's a sport!we have uniforms and compete!" first off, having a uniform doesn't mean its a sport. second, cheerleading is technically dancing. and do u know what dancing is called? NOT a sport.if u say cheerleading isn't a sport, someone is always gonna say "then what is it?" it is a form of art. cheerleaders arent called athletes. they are called performers.u know why?cause cheerleading is when u PERFORM in front of an audience.i wanted to do cheerleading when i was little (like every 6 year old girl) and my mom didn't let me do it. and i m GLAD. i play lacrosse, soccer, and basketball.THOSE are sports.ya know why? first, lax is "the fastest sport on two feet', second, ppl who play those sports are called ATHLETES.tell me the next time u hear of a cheerleader who runs her guts out, or scores. and if u saw the video, its NOT a sport. and i strongly believe that.but ppl can hav their own opinion.

  • In reply to Laxluver4life5118:

    thing is though you all keep saying opinion..but im pretty sure we should check the facts..and fact is its a sport . End of story.

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    In reply to Laxluver4life5118:

    we have to run a mile every day for my cheer team... we do run our guts out...

    also, dance is just a small part of cheer... it is mostly stunting and tumbling.

    i am a dancer as well. i know the difference... both are athletic but dance is an art and cheer is a sport.

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    Oh silly person with incorrect spelling and grammar, what do you mean by Cheerleaders are just performers? During Lacrosse, or Basketball, or a Soccer Game are you not performing a certain set of skills in front of spectators? Is this not performing?
    I mean I guess you are right ALL we do is dance! That's why in a majority of that video, there were cheerleaders dancing!! Oh wait... There wasn't. Hmmm... We may need to rethink that one.
    Professional "Cheerleaders"= Not a sport
    Highschool Cheer= Not a sport
    Competitive Cheer= Very much so a sport
    You see, you are correct, people CAN have their opinion. However yours is blatantly ignorant and disrespectful. Even school cheer deserves a little credit, I mean we have to watch and cheer for people who mock and belittle us everyday. We respect other sports, that was our purpose, however we are disrespected every day.
    Cheerleaders are Athletes. Have you ever lifted a 105lb girl directly above your head? Then have you thrown her into a double down? If not, try, its REALLY easy.
    The definition of an Athlete: a person trained or gifted in exercises or contests involving physical agility, stamina, or strength; a participant in a sport, exercise, or game requiring physical skill.
    There is no question whether Cheerleaders are ATHLETES. What we do requires an extreme amount of physical strength. Oh ya, and your supposed to look perfect doing it. When was the last time you had to worry about how you looked in your Lacrosse uniform?

  • and when u reach high school, you'll learn that it's not the cheerleaders who r popular, but the athletes. a sry, but anyone can clap their hands and shout yay.

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    amen.

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    In reply to Laxluver4life5118:

    About the ditzy sideline cheerleaders - yah i hate them.

    But I'm a competitive cheerleader and we work just as hard as any other sports team.

    Anyone can "clap their hands and shout yay", but few have the strength to stunt and tumble. Running and throwing balls is one thing, twisting your body in the air and throwing people is another.

  • ok.lets examine the dictionary to solve this little problem as is cheerleading= sport or not sport? lets see....

    cheer·lead·ing [cheer-lee-ding] Show IPA

    noun
    the action or skill of a cheerleader.

    *lets check cheerleader.*

    cheer·lead·er  [cheer-lee-der] Show IPA
    noun
    a person who leads spectators in traditional or formal cheering, especially at a pep rally or athletic event.

    *don't see "sport" anywhere.lets check cheerlead*

    cheer·lead [cheer-leed] Show IPA verb, -led, -lead·ing.

    verb (used with object)
    1. to act as cheerleader for.

    2.to encourage by or as if by cheerleading.

    verb (used without object)
    3. to act as cheerleader.

    sorry.but the dictionary has it.cheerleading isn't a sport. to all the ppl on team "not a sport" then VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!! now lets have victory pie.

  • ok cheer is a SPORT and all of the ppl here that are saying it isnt probabyly..most likely havent even done it before im guna ask all of them to just stop tlking now because your "opinion" doesnt really matter to anyone. secondly if you would really like to get technical and go to the dictionary look up SPORT.

    Sport: physical activity engaged in for pleasure ; competitive physical activity: an individual or group competitive activity involving physical exertion or skill, governed by rules, and sometimes engaged in professionally •A physical activity which involves propelling a mass through space or overcoming the resistance of a mass
    •A contest or competition against or with an opponent
    •Is governed by rules which explicitly define the time, space and purpose of the contest and the conditions under which a winner is declared
    •The acknowledged primary purpose of the competition is a comparison of the relative skills of the participants

    Now lets look up competitive cheerleading..i mean thts what the SPORT is called anyways. not sideline cheer its competitive.

    competitive cheerleading: Cheerleading that is not on the sidelines cheering on a sports team, but it's own independent SPORT. Competitions are held to judge teams on things such as their tumbling (gymnastics) and stunting abilities. Much training and a higher skill level is imperative to succeed at Competitive cheerleading.

    Cheer is a sport!!!!!!NOW its time for victory pie!

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    I'm sorry, but all of those pictures are what competitive cheerleaders work hard to fight against. We don't prance around in slutty uniforms, we spend 10 hours a week conditioning, holding and throwing people in the air and throwing our own bodies in tumbling.
    A sport is something that requires skill and athleticism with elements of competition. That's what competitive cheer is! We aren't barbie dolls, we are athletes. My flyer this year played three varsity sports last year - she says that cheer is harder than all of them. We practice 2 hours, five days a week, 10 months a year. We have broken noses, wrists, and ankles. Sprains, tears, and bruises. We have more girls quit than any other sport at our school, because it is more intense than any girls sport out there.

    (Also, on a side note, we aren't dumb. I got a 2030 on my SAT and more than half of the girls on my team take honors and AP classes. That's more than most varsity teams. Don't judge competitive cheerleaders based on a few ditsy girls. Take a look at the athletes that make up the core of the sport.)

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrcBPwe4F38&feature=related

    Watch this...enough said. I dare any one of you to say that these 12-18 year old are not athletics! This was aired on ESPN and please take note in the back ground: CBS SPORTS!!! ESPN as I recall air sport events right?! Wow, how interesting. Guess what!? The host of this SPORTS TELEVISED event was no other than Amanda Borden. Thank you for your ignorant post, it was very entertaining & good bye:))

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    Okay well just because you wasted your time trying to find degrading pictures of cheerleaders does not me cheer isnt a sport. Look at the other pictures you found while searching. We work our butts off every day just so we can prove to idoits like you that cheer IS a sport. Go to one of our competition practices. You'll see it is work work work! Bruises, tears, sweat, and hard work!

  • I take this very offensive.You don't know how hard competitive cheerleaders work! I've been doing compeitive cheerleading for about 5 years now & i've learned so much from it. If you don't like crop tops sorry but you can't do any stunts in a long covered dress. I'm a flyer & the first time i did it i was kind of scared of being in the air. I got used to it because i noticed my bases would always catch me. I thank them a lot because i've kicked them in the face, i've put all my weight on them, but i'd rather them to touch my put than to break an ankle. I'm so glad my mom is supportive & thank god i'm not your daughter! i couldln't possibly have a mom who doesn't like what i do.

  • I just cant believe how she just dissed Cheerleading

  • Ok, The only reason you are Dissing on Cheerleading is because you were never talented enough to try Cheeleading. You have no idea how hard it is to be a Cheerleader.There is more to Cheerleading than saying go team and doing a flip in the air. To be a Cheerleader you have to work hard. I put in over 3 hours a day for Cheerleading and it is really offensive when someone puts this about the SPORT I love most. I had to join the Cross Country Team for Cheerleading I have to do 3 Tumbling classes a week this is not easy. You said that being a suporttive parent and leeting your children do Cheerleading...You are bassically dissing your kids! Keep your opinions to your self... Having done Cheerleading for 6 years and I am only 12! You learn a lot in Cheerleading not only how to be amazing but strenght, friendship ( I met my bestfriend threw chherleading), pain ,courage......Actually threw cheerleading I have encountered many ingurys but I continue to do it because I LOVE THIS SPORT..........

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    I'm a cheerleader and this is why cheer is a sport!
    Cheerleaders are commonly seen on the sidelines at football and basketball games supporting their teams. Most cheerleading squads participate in competitions to show their athleticism. Dictionary.com defines a sport as "an athletic activity that requires physical prowess or skill and often a competitive nature." The first part of the definition was "an athletic activity requiring skill or prowess. " Cheerleaders chuck a hundred pound or more person in the air and catch him or her which requires SKILL AND PROWESS. They get judged, they compete, they have to stay conditioned, what could possibly make them not a sport?
    I would like to see you preform a 2 minute and 30 second routine with with jumps, stunts, and tumbling!

    You my friend sound like you tried out for a cheer team when you were younger and didn't make and got all butt hurt about it! then decided to be all against it!

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    First of all I am a cheerleader. And we don’t just stand around and clap for boys. That is plain rude to say, we are really involved in charities and helping people. And I would hope you have a higher I. Q. than to sit around making blanket judgments about people that you don’t even know.

  • Way to judge cheerleading based on a few bad photos. You do realize that not all cheerleaders are like that and it's very close minded of you to think like that? Cheerleaders work hard to make sure their routines, stunts, jumps, and tumbling are perfect! They also condition just as much as any other sport, go to a high school or all star competition and you'll see how difficult it is. Cheerleaders even work hard to perfect sideline routines as well, its not all rah rah and yelling, there are stunts, dances, and tumbling involved, at least at my school, although sideline cheer isn't nearly as hard as competition

  • Honestly? I've been cheering for 8 years, I'm fifteen so nearly half of my life and I love it. Your making rude and bitchy judgments off of a few photos. Have you seen all-star cheerleading? It is nothing like NFL or high school cheerleading. A sport is described as a team competing against another to win. That's what us all-stars do. We train pretty much the entire year to preform at regional and national events to get a jacket, ring, trophy, etc. to show what we have achieved. If you've never attempted cheerleading, especially all-star do not even attempt to make bitchy judgments. All the girls on my team are required to carry at least a 3.0 GPA, or else we get kicked off. High school cheerleading is completely different, you cheer for someone and compete at 2 competitions but all-star is so much different. This was an unneccesary post speaking from my opinion especially for you being an adult.

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    Your poor choice of pictures disappoints me. Most of the pictures you've picked are NOT cheerleaders, they are dancers dressed in underwear. To address the other pictures, such as the cheerleader cheering for the wrong team or the funny faces: Cheerleaders are people too! Everyone makes mistakes! If a picture of your face throwing/holding a person looks normal, then you can complain. You are intitled to your opinion, but if your going to put it on the internet you need to make sure you know ALL your facts. If you really did your research you'd know that high school cheerleading accounted for 65.1 percent of all catastrophic sports injuries, and these are not ankle sprains. The report counts fatal, disabling and serious injuries.The statistics are equally grim in college, where cheerleading accounted for 66.7 percent or injurys. You don't break bones throwing balls, you break bones throwing people. No disrepect intended in this paragraph, but you have seriously under estimated cheerleading and should consider trying it before judging it.

    Information Credit: http://www.livescience.com/2775-girls-dangerous-sport-cheerleading.html

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    Now excuse me. You are NOT specifying between SIDELINE cheering and COMPETITIVE cheering. There is a huge difference. You are making a blanket statement when you say "cheerleading" because there are clearly different types. And your pictures of "cheerleaders" do not do them justice. Most of them are dancers. You are nothing but an ignorant, judgemental person. Have you even tried competitive cheerleading? It's hard and people get seriously injured. By posting this article you are showing what an ugly person you are.

  • Cheerleading isn't a sport ?
    Try lifting someone above your head and keep them sturdy while they
    twist there body in pretzel form and smile at the same time. Try throwing a person into the air high enough for them to spin a couple time then catch them. getting hit , slapped kicked elbowed , and then shake it off & keep going cause unlike most sports in cheerleading you don't get time outs. Break a couple arms a legs but still push yourself to keep going . Sweat so much because you've been doing tucks , layouts fulls and doubles and even when you run out of sweat keep going.By the way do this in PERFECT sync with 25 other girls Build your strength up until you pass out but get back up and do it again. cry bleed get bruises then tell me cheerleading isn't a sport. and go to hell while your out it. idot.

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    What the author of this "article" (if you can bring yourself to consider it as such) is doing is basically judging ALL cheerleading in a way that is equivalent to judging all "Chicago Now" contributors to WIKIPEDIA contributors. Apples to Oranges lady. Just like ANY sport the degree of athleticism required depends on the caliber of athlete participating in it. The level of athleticism demonstrated by a flag football player is going to be way off from that of a college level athlete. NFL cheerleaders are only cheerleaders by name. Even they will tell you they are Dancers. Pictures of Saturday Night Live Spoofs are equally as irrelevant. Educate yourself on the subject before you makes yourself look so ignorant.

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